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To Clear up some things.
« on: 2009-11-25 20:14:03 »
Is this Q-Gears project a PSX VII emulator or is it just a program that uses the files from the VII disk to run it?

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Re: To Clear up some things.
« Reply #1 on: 2009-11-25 21:11:32 »
Originally it was going to be a drop-in replacement for the FF7 executable files.

It's mutated into something else.

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Re: To Clear up some things.
« Reply #2 on: 2009-11-25 22:41:50 »
What exactly has it mutated into?

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Re: To Clear up some things.
« Reply #3 on: 2009-11-26 00:01:40 »
It's now supposed to be a general 2.5d RPG engine, which I think can't actually directly use the original game data.

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Re: To Clear up some things.
« Reply #4 on: 2009-11-26 04:06:41 »
It's now supposed to be a general 2.5d RPG engine, which I think can't actually directly use the original game data.

But has imported data from many games!

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Re: To Clear up some things.
« Reply #5 on: 2009-11-26 04:49:11 »
Yup, you must convert the game assets to q-gears format....

But I think the end result is the same. You can play FF7 with that engine when it's done.

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Re: To Clear up some things.
« Reply #6 on: 2009-12-03 11:49:59 »
So any idea when this q project will be up and running for ff7? i suppose reading the comments above it'll be usable with ff8 aswell?

oh and my 1st post! :-D yay! great site guys keep it up!

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Re: To Clear up some things.
« Reply #7 on: 2009-12-03 12:23:55 »
So any idea when this q project will be up and running for ff7? i suppose reading the comments above it'll be usable with ff8 aswell?

oh and my 1st post! :-D yay! great site guys keep it up!

I will not work on FFVIII, only FFVII, Xenogears and FFIX. If anyone have courage to face up FFVIII - welcome.

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Re: To Clear up some things.
« Reply #8 on: 2009-12-03 23:27:47 »
I will not work on FFVIII, only FFVII, Xenogears and FFIX. If anyone have courage to face up FFVIII - welcome.

Please excuse my ignorance, but what exactly is the difference between them?

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Re: To Clear up some things.
« Reply #9 on: 2009-12-04 00:17:45 »
I will not work on FFVIII, only FFVII, Xenogears and FFIX. If anyone have courage to face up FFVIII - welcome.

Please excuse my ignorance, but what exactly is the difference between them?
FF8 is a bit trickier than the others. There isn't as much information also. I remember poking around with it some. I suppose I should get back to playing with some of this. It will be after I have ported PCSX 1.9df to the beagle board however. That should take a week or two as I am a bit backed up. I've started actually taking vacation .. so maybe I'll get around too it sooner?  I still haven't started any of my AT91SAM7S projects (I have all the dev stuff too) heh. Lots of projects just not enough time I guess. :D

Bottom line though FF8 data requires a bit more work (on the PSX variant) Qhimm has done a lot of deciphering along with numerous others (back in the days). Not as much people play with Ff8 I guess. I have some save data yet to finish with (the bit data for each thing you do in the game is but one of many).


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Re: To Clear up some things.
« Reply #10 on: 2009-12-04 11:47:33 »
The fact that it should work with IX makes me happy. I didn't know. :D

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Re: To Clear up some things.
« Reply #11 on: 2009-12-04 11:52:50 »
ff9 on PC? i want haha :-D

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Re: To Clear up some things.
« Reply #12 on: 2009-12-04 18:49:06 »
I will not work on FFVIII, only FFVII, Xenogears and FFIX. If anyone have courage to face up FFVIII - welcome.

Please excuse my ignorance, but what exactly is the difference between them?
FF8 is a bit trickier than the others. There isn't as much information also. I remember poking around with it some. I suppose I should get back to playing with some of this. It will be after I have ported PCSX 1.9df to the beagle board however. That should take a week or two as I am a bit backed up. I've started actually taking vacation .. so maybe I'll get around too it sooner?  I still haven't started any of my AT91SAM7S projects (I have all the dev stuff too) heh. Lots of projects just not enough time I guess. :D

Bottom line though FF8 data requires a bit more work (on the PSX variant) Qhimm has done a lot of deciphering along with numerous others (back in the days). Not as much people play with Ff8 I guess. I have some save data yet to finish with (the bit data for each thing you do in the game is but one of many).


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FFVIII don't harder than others (in fact FFIX is hardest), but I don't like it that much and don't want to spent time to understand it formats. Now I almost finish reversing of FFIX field model format and prepare to work on exporter. Next will be models in Xeno.

Is there any fans that want to work on FFVIII? I can explain how, but it takes a lot of time so be prepared.

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Re: To Clear up some things.
« Reply #13 on: 2009-12-06 18:19:42 »
Really? Hmmm it was a lot harder for me to find the models et al than 7 and 9 .. at least 9 had a nifty index system that was .. obvious :D

Oh well such is life.

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Re: To Clear up some things.
« Reply #14 on: 2009-12-07 12:32:18 »
Really? Hmmm it was a lot harder for me to find the models et al than 7 and 9 .. at least 9 had a nifty index system that was .. obvious :D

Oh well such is life.

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It's maybe easier to find without reversing, but when you reverse all the code - FFIX is much harder. Scripting system in FFIX is a bit different and resource system is very big and annoying. FFVII, Xenogears - much easier.

ps: I start with reversing of graphical pipeline. Trace and reverse all data that formed into render packets.

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Re: To Clear up some things.
« Reply #15 on: 2009-12-07 21:15:33 »
Really? Hmmm it was a lot harder for me to find the models et al than 7 and 9 .. at least 9 had a nifty index system that was .. obvious :D

Oh well such is life.

Cyb

It's maybe easier to find without reversing, but when you reverse all the code - FFIX is much harder. Scripting system in FFIX is a bit different and resource system is very big and annoying. FFVII, Xenogears - much easier.

ps: I start with reversing of graphical pipeline. Trace and reverse all data that formed into render packets.
That's a good route for my current PSX project actually. It's a bit too long to explain right now.  In any case I had never thought of that approach. I have always beat on the data itself not investigated what was being done with it. (LOL)

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