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Can you get me the full list of changed addresses and values so I can check it out? I don't have the exe or the ability to run the game anyway.Since it's already done:
Is there an easy way to work out which values it is patching at runtime? Maybe they found out a few that we missed?Dump the running exe and compare to the exe file. There are over 2k changed bytes - some of them are functions replaced, but some are single byte-tweaks. While fixing things (I'm using chocobo patch as an example), they NOP-ed not only the faulty instructions, but also surrounding ones, because they were not needed. A+ job, or they didn't want it to look like rip-off
You'd have to go one by one over the modifications to find unknown fixes.
I didn't notice the Left/Right Up/Down thing. I'll share my other findings here.Hello and welcome to the board! Thank you very much for posting your findings.
fr_e -- In the "chance" group script (I didn't write down which one) they change an 8 frame wait to a 1 frame wait.
lastmap -- In script 3 of group "AD3", it now uses script 1 of group "disp".
Such minor changes. I haven't played either of these parts of the game so I haven't "noticed" a change. Still have no idea about uutai1, nor why the frcyo filesize is so different.
did they fix some bugs? like the Magic Defense bug of the Wizard Bracelet?They did fix that one for sure, and chocobo crash too. Probably many more.
I wouldn't say that. Their driver latches onto the game the same way Aali's driver does, and he was able to fix the mdef bug without changing the exe. All you strictly need to do is have the fix somewhere else, such as somewhere in AF3DN.P, and have the driver patch it in at runtime.Seconded. It's patched on run.
Ah yes, you were more sophisticated than me.It couldn't care less about the size of the patch. It will fail because of safety check - if more than one patching address was found while analyzing unknown ff7.exe it will abort. You could say they put a decoy in code, but it is most likely needed.Bugger off!!!!
Ah but wait, won't it look for size? And fail because it doesn't recognise the exe?
Now that they can both be modded equally, I prefer either. You speak of headaches, and my only one is that all the mods for main characters are a mash-up of different arts and styles. Maybe it's a girl thing, but I really like to match. I am still grateful for what we have though
(...) Once you have used that patch it is then the old game almost 100%
Unfortunately that is part of the Menu Project... Your best bet is to download yamp version, place it on the original 1.02, do a comparison with a back up of original 1.02 using dup. Look at what the addresses changed are, copy them to a text file. Change the addresses by adding C00 to all of them. Use my Hexteditor program to patch new exe.Orrrr...
It is a lot of messing about.
How does character boost work in a technical sense? Something like readProcessMemory() and writeProcessMemory, with arbitrary addresses derived from memory watching?AFAIK, they're boosting the saved games stored in the cloud. Then syncing it with your PC.
did they recompile the executable, or is it just a new new fixed graphics driverNew new.
I haven't checked out strings.dat, but AF3DN.P is the driver, so any changes are likely to be graphical.Yeah, it's the driver and I'm wondering what've changed.
), the DRM would effectively be bypassed (but still in place, should you decide to run through the new Launcher). You could say that the DRM protects the new engine, not the data.
crazy question, but how does the character boost work in the re release? They don't even give you a pdf copy of the manual with this editionYou use it through your online profile (click "View Online Profile" in the Launcher).
If we are literally converting the new to old, wouldn't this theoretically remove the need for SecuROM?SecuROM is in both Launcher and ff7_(language).exe. And it's also (kind of) protecting the new graphics driver file. You can't directly (by double clicking) run ff7_(language).exe, because it needs the settings from the launcher (through IPC).
The impression I got was that SecoROM was not tied to the game itself, but to the launcher. You can't load the game without the launcher, and you can't use the launcher without activating the game. Similar to The Sims 3; by default, you can't play the game without the launcher, and you can't use the launcher without the disc being in the drive.
Since this patch replaces the new launcher with the original launcher, one that does not require an internet connection or any activation whatsoever, couldn't this theoretically bypass the (completely unnecessary and appalling) DRM? If I remember correctly, you are not asked for your activation code until after the game has already installed.
Even if this is the case, I can't see this as being much of an issue. The SecuROM is namely there not for the game itself, but for the features provided exclusively by the new launcher (DirectX, Cloud Saves, Achievements, etc), features that are disabled when converting to the old version.
I know double-posting is frowned upon, but I have a couple questions about the renaming method for running the game.1. It can be empty, ff7.exe just checks for the label.
1.Does the attached drive have to be empty?
2.Is the game affected if the thing is unplugged?
BishyT, not quite. The 1998 version has DRM too, albeit not very effective DRM.You can run it from within the Launcher ;p If launcher is up, it's activated.
That being said, does anyone know of any way to check for valid activation? It'd be better if this patch refused to apply to a non-activated copy.
ancnt1 - Fixes Vincent at the end of Disc1 (his leg is up when Aeris...)
ancnt4 - Fixes Vincent
blackbgb - End of Disc 1/Disc 2 changed to End of Part 1/Part 2 ("Please do not open the CD drive" is tossed since there are no CDs now)
frcyo - Names of greens changed: Gysahl vs Gizzard, Krakka vs Karaka, Pahsana vs Pasana, Curiel vs Kurie, Mimett vs Memit (possibly something more)
fr_e - unknown
fship_4 - Highwind flying instructions -> "[ASSIST] to move ahead" vs "[OK] to move ahead", "[ASSIST] toggle map" vs "[ASSIST] to strafe"
las0_8 - Split in The Northern Crater - fixing choices for "I'm going Left/Right" (original team sometimes used simple spaces instead of tabs/choices)
las2_1 - Same as obove, fixing choices for Up, Down, also, a little Easter Egg ;p
lastmap - unknown
uutai1 - unknownThe easter egg: Unused text "012345678901234" changed to "Secret Cow Level" (Diablo? Anyone?? No? Okay 
)eunit00.tex - Removing Playstation symbols from the buttons, this one is most likely for the low-res, so unused
eunit00d.tex - Renaming buttons (the Playstation symbols vs B1,B2,B3,B4)Why the hell would they not sell it in Poland? Squeenix are just being spanners now...Something like:
<this millenium>
- Sir, I was looking through FF-fans forum, and came by these modifications from this guy who called himself dzuigo...
- That's a stupid name.
- For sure...
- For sure?
- For sure Sir!
- That's better.
- This dzuigo guy modified one of our games - the PC port of FF7. Technically he was mostly fixing bugs that were done by EIDOS, but...
- Dzugo! You dare to modify FF7 PC and pointing out that there are bugs in it? No Re-Release for you!
- Sir, we don't have any Rerelease plans for FF7
- What?!? We do now then!
- As you wish, Sir.
- That's better. Come to me when it's ready.
<fade out>
<later this millenium>
- Sir, the FF7 rerelease is ready.
- Good. Where does this dzugio guy come from?
- Poland, Sir.
- Which country I asked.
- Country named Poland, Sir.
- Ah... I've heard of it. Drop all Poland resellers from our delivery-list.
- Sir, that won't do any good. Polish people could just import the game from other EU countries.
- No biggie, just release it in some foreign language noone speaks, like German! (sorry, german was the only language that fitted ;p)
- Sir, we can't do that. UK is also in EU and they have to get it in English.
- Ah...
- Sir, if I may...
- Yes, I'm always open to ideas.
- We could release it digitally in our online-store, and bind it to a buyer.
- That's even better. Quickly, wrap up one, fill it with our other games.
- Sir, we do already have such a store.
- Square Enix has online store?
- We do, Sir.
- Of course we have. Ban Poland from it, that'll teach him. <demonic laughter, storm, etc.>
- Sir, Poland is not supported anyway.
- That's even better.
<fade out>
2.3 Territorial availabilityGuess I don't have to decide whether to buy it or not.
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While we are at it, where is the Italian?Italian translation is not the official one.
(...)It is the hotkey thing that is missing, but the driver would have to do that really.Hotkeying was done previously - YAMP's GyptInstant uses in-game hotkeys. I've replaced Ctrt+D (i.e. turn-lights-on) with instant game-over as NFITC1 suggested, and it actually works pretty well - but only if in field module.
00676824 EB 0E JMP SHORT 00676834
00676826 BA AE0DCC00 MOV EDX,OFFSET 00CC0DAE
0067682B 31C0 XOR EAX,EAX
0067682D 66:8902 MOV WORD PTR DS:[EDX],AX
00676830 C642 DB 1A MOV BYTE PTR DS:[EDX-25],1A
00676834 E9 93000000 JMP 006768CC