Author Topic: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods and Modding Framework-The Reunion [R06f] (Read 3072165 times)

cold_spirit · « **Reply #3825 on:** 2017-09-04 00:45:02 »

Quote from: DLPB on 2017-09-03 22:40:43

What I am seeing here is more a buttercuping that people can't get the best score. People cry when they don't get the grades at school they wanted too.

No where in my posts have I said how far I'm willing to go to get 100% in FFVII (for the record, I don't care at all). I'm simply trying to put forward a perspective on game design about when it is best to challenge players. Reading your previous post it's clear that you're having an emotion reaction to people's frustrations to the point where you're justifying their behavior by calling them whiners with "bruised egos."

And on point of the snowboarding minigame, in its instance at the Gold Saucer getting 100/100/100 is completely optional. However, the Junon parade is a mandatory story event. For the third time I'll say it: In my opinion the entire story sequence would flow better if the minigame was more accessible. That's all I'm trying to say. You disagree, that's fine.

DLPB_ · « **Reply #3826 on:** 2017-09-04 00:46:21 »

It's completely optional to get the better rankings on the Junon parade minigame. Most people aren't complaining that they can't get past it (as I stated before, it reverts in difficulty to an easy mode after 3 failures). They are complaining that they are resetting the game to get 50% (often they are 1% away). They are choosing to reset the game in frustration that they cannot get the BEST rank. It's absolutely a valid comparison to getting the better scores at the snowboard minigame.

Now, if people are also annoyed at general difficulty of getting past the game - that I can understand (some do). And I'll make the range easier in next release.

Liquid_Vegeta · « **Reply #3827 on:** 2017-09-04 07:39:42 »

Not played enough of Reunion to know if this is relevant or not but Kotaku just put up this article:

http://www.kotaku.co.uk/2017/08/30/zack-wasnt-actually-aeriss-boyfriend-in-the-japanese-version-of-final-fantasy-vii

Thought i'd mention it just in case but I imagine you guys are already way ahead of the curve on this?

luksy · « **Reply #3828 on:** 2017-09-04 09:52:19 »

When Zax disappeared Aerith assumed he had found another girl as he was apparently a bit of a flirt (Gongaga dialogue); I think she denies they were a flat-out couple *now* because she thinks that he cheated on her and she was a naive teenager, doesn't change the fact that they were together for at least some time, Zax even mentions his "girlfriend" in his letter.

DLPB_ · « **Reply #3829 on:** 2017-09-04 17:14:05 »

What Luksy said. They were definitely together. Also, in the church, she laughs because Cloud's mannerisms and life seem to be uncannily like that of Zax's. It's a clever use of foreshadowing by the writers. Really subtle. Cloud has mimicked his life on Zax's - and she starts laughing that he seems so similar. This is also further established in the park.

Gongaga:

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Gongaga
------------------------------
{AERIS}
“I had no idea Zax
  grew up in this village.”
------------------------------
{CLOUD}
“Somebody you know?”
------------------------------
{AERIS}
“I told you,remember?
  My first love.”
------------------------------
{CLOUD}
“…”
------------------------------
{AERIS}
“Zax…
  Soldier,first class.
  The same as you,{CLOUD}.”
------------------------------
{CLOUD}
“Strange. There aren’t that
  many who make first class,
  and I’ve never heard of him.”
------------------------------
{AERIS}
“That’s all right,it was a long
  time ago. I’m worried because
  he disappeared.”
------------------------------
{CLOUD}
“Disappeared?”
------------------------------
{AERIS}
“Must be five years ago now.
  He went to work and never
  came back.”
------------------------------
{AERIS}
“Zax is a real lady’s man.
  He probably met somebody else.”
------------------------------
{AERIS}
“Hey,what’s wrong?”
{CHOICE}I’d be worried too,I guess
{CHOICE}(What a slimy…)
------------------------------
{AERIS}
“It’s okay.
  But he should at least
  contact his parents.”
------------------------------
{AERIS}
“Are you… jealous?
  Hmm? Hmmm?
  Are you,{CLOUD}?”
------------------------------
{AERIS}
“Just kidding. Sorry.”
------------------------------
{AERIS}
“I’d kinda like it
  if you were though.”

Even if "first love" isn't correct here [Luksy?], this is still pretty good evidence.

luksy · « **Reply #3830 on:** 2017-09-04 19:35:39 »

First love is absolutely correct in both cases (church and gongaga). I think the guy who made the clip just objects to Aerith using "boyfriend", and he has a point, but the title makes it sound like they weren't together, which is just wrong.

shikun · « **Reply #3831 on:** 2017-09-06 17:51:46 »

I found a glitch during the march, I talked to the Captain, and he got stuck on this dialog box, and Cloud could move freely across the screen, but couldn't proceed in any way. Picture: https://www.dropbox.com/s/lsot5m5msn3ij5m/ff7%20march%20bug.jpg?dl=0

DLPB_ · « **Reply #3832 on:** 2017-09-06 20:25:52 »

Yeah, this has been noted. But how did you manage to do it? I need specific thing that you did? Talked to him during a dialogue box?

shikun · « **Reply #3833 on:** 2017-09-06 21:14:31 »

i talked to him probably just before he says "Come back here!" which might have messed things up.

DLPB_ · « **Reply #3834 on:** 2017-09-06 21:16:03 »

Yeah the engine sucks. It has real issues with anything that's simultaneous. I'll find the problem and neutralize the sucker.

DLPB_ · « **Reply #3835 on:** 2017-09-08 14:48:57 »

charlie's proof checking goes on. And so does the updating of all Red's dialogue. Before he drops the act and after.

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------------------------------
{RED XIII}
“A slave to the acquisition of wealth.
  …Sigh… Human nature.”
------------------------------
{RED XIII}
“G-give it back!
  It’s mine!!”

For example.

DLPB_ · « **Reply #3836 on:** 2017-09-09 02:41:48 »

Apart from mistakes, it's these kind of things that get helped greatly with a Japanese proof read:

before
Assistant Director
“Oh,this is terrible!
Am… Am I fired?”

TV Producer
“Whaaaat!?
You’re FIRED!!”{NEW}
“Send that soldier
a bomb or something!”

After
Assistant Director
“Oh,this is terrible!
Am… Am I fired?”

TV Producer
“Whaaaat!? You bet
your ass you’re fired!!”{NEW}
“Send that soldier
a bomb or something!”

Ver Greeneyes · « **Reply #3837 on:** 2017-09-09 11:39:28 »

Quote from: DLPB on 2017-09-08 14:48:57

charlie's proof checking goes on. And so does the updating of all Red's dialogue. Before he drops the act and after.

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------------------------------ {RED XIII} “A slave to the acquisition of wealth. …Sigh… Human nature.” ------------------------------ {RED XIII} “G-give it back! It’s mine!!”
For example.

I'm really looking forward to playing with this change. I always knew that Red was technically still a teenager, but it's really cool that this actually affected his dialogue in the original. His character makes more sense now, and in some ways it also makes the post-credits scene more meaningful.

rayano · « **Reply #3838 on:** 2017-09-09 12:09:04 »

Quote

IlDucci:
Playstation icons
Updated/tweaked textures

is it possible to get the ps1 icons without installing the entire mod? because i already have 7thHeaven and it includes the reunion mod.
thank you

DLPB_ · « **Reply #3839 on:** 2017-09-09 14:04:04 »

Quote from: rayano on 2017-09-09 12:09:04

is it possible to get the ps1 icons without installing the entire mod? because i already have 7thHeaven and it includes the reunion mod.
thank you

You'd have to extract the files from the installation and then add them to the correct lgp file using something like ulgp.

rayano · « **Reply #3840 on:** 2017-09-09 18:00:34 »

i have zero exp with this type of thing but i'll give it a try
thank you

DLPB_ · « **Reply #3841 on:** 2017-09-15 08:01:56 »

I've fixed up my new sound module to disable the original one entirely. This meant fixing the "bug" that exists with original PC game, where crashes happen when the driver isn't selected in ff7config. That's now completely redundant. When Audio Enhancement is active, midi folder and sound folder and music folder can also be deleted from root\data with no ill effects. They aren't loaded. No initialization happens. It's always best to leave them in case, for some reason, there is an issue with my dll.

The bug exists because when sound isn't detected for whatever reason, the function still tries to initialize it and certain values are returned from a few functions that lead to something the engine can't deal with.

DLPB_ · « **Reply #3842 on:** 2017-09-18 07:56:38 »

I used "butt naked" somewhere in localization (on train). Turns out it's meant to be "buck naked".

https://owlcation.com/humanities/Is-it-Buck-Naked-or-Butt-Naked

But now it seems that both are fine... probably because so many made the mistake I did. What would you go for, Covarr?

Covarr · « **Reply #3843 on:** 2017-09-18 14:14:51 »

Buck naked is correct, but the mistake is so common that it's not a mistake anymore. Hooray evolving language.

Obviously I didn't correct it in my first go-through because I don't think it's a big deal, but I would choose "buck" over "butt" if I were writing it myself.

DLPB_ · « **Reply #3844 on:** 2017-09-20 06:40:58 »

^

I *think* I've just sorted the member priority to be based on menu order instead of what it is now (PHS initial selection dictates regardless of menu order). This is a little more complicated than it seems, since Cloud in slot 2 should still take precedence as leader regardless of any other member's position. And if he isn't available, Tifa should, and if she isn't, then Cid should. I have coded this and while I'm sure it could be more efficient... it won't be by much. I will test this next and see if it works as intended.

There's also a bug in the original game... the priority isn't even changed by the PHS unless certain switch operations to members are made. This can lead to a lot of problems during cutscenes, where members not in the party will try to speak / have actions.

{
Cloud: Byte = 0;
Barrett: Byte = 1;
Tifa: Byte = 2;
Aerith: Byte = 3;
Red: Byte = 4;
Yuffie: Byte = 5;
Cait: Byte = 6;
Vincent: Byte = 7;
Cid: Byte = 8;
YCloud: Byte = 9;
Sephiroth: Byte = 10;
None: Byte = 255;
DC0230 Party member order
DC09E5 Party member priority}

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Procedure SetMemberOrder; stdcall;
Var
  CloudExists, YCloudExists, TifaExists, CidExists: Boolean;
  Member: Array[0..2] of Byte;
  Menu: Array [0..2] of Byte;
  i: LongInt;
Begin

CloudExists:= false;
YCloudExists:= false;
TifaExists:= false;
CidExists:= false;

for i:= 0 to 2 do
begin
member[i]:= 254; // 255 is 'Empty', 0 is used by Cloud.
menu[i]:= PByte($DC0230 + i)^;

  if menu[i] = 0 then // Cloud
    CloudExists:= True
  else
    if menu[i] = 9 then // YCloud
      YCloudExists:= True
    else
    if menu[i] = 2 then // Tifa
      TifaExists:= True
    else
      if menu[i] = 8 then //Cid
      CidExists:= True;
end;

if CloudExists then
  Member[0]:= 0
else
  if YCloudExists then
    Member[0]:= 9
  else
    if TifaExists then
      Member[0]:= 2
    else
      if CidExists then
        Member[0]:= 8
      else
        Member[0]:= Menu[0];


for i:= 0 to 2 do
  if Menu[i] <> Member[0] then
    if Member[1] = 254 then
      Member[1]:= Menu[i]
    else
      Member[2]:= Menu[i];


for i:= 0 to 2 do
WByte($DC09E5 + i, Member[i]);

End;

Salk · « **Reply #3845 on:** 2017-09-20 07:13:51 »

The Reunion is becoming such a must-have that playing FFVII without it should be considered a crime...

DLPB_ · « **Reply #3846 on:** 2017-09-20 07:16:32 »

Not even Reunion anymore... this fix is universal with the dll

So I guess this doesn't belong here

But Reunion requires the DLL (not other way round).

LionCerieals · « **Reply #3847 on:** 2017-09-23 17:38:33 »

Hi! I have a question regarding 7th Heaven and this mod.
The tutorial page of 7th Heaven displays a subscription link ( iros://Url/http$pastebin.com/raw.php?i=dDBkYkDu ) where I can download various mods through the 7th Heaven mod manager.

My problem is that the subscription link provided on the tutorial site only lets me download "The Reunion - Beacause and Menu Overhaul ver 2.1 released on 1/10/2016" which only contains Reunion version R03e and not the current one. I've installed almost every mod in this subscription link apart from Dynamic Weapons for Cloud.

Can you provide me with a 7th Heaven subscription link that lets me update to the current build of Reunion? Are my mods from said subscription link even compatible with the current version of Reunion? Please help! :/

PS: I tried downloading and installing Reunion R05c manually and after installing it nothing changed.

EQ2Alyza · « **Reply #3848 on:** 2017-09-26 05:17:20 »

DLPB can't help you. 7H had its own subforum because it operates separately from the individual mod forums. The files are basically imported directly from the mod posts, like this one. If it's not in the 7H forum, then it can't, or sometimes hasn't, been done yet. If you want a mod requested, then it needs to be posted on the Mod Request thread over in the 7H subforum.

Ddeathscythe · « **Reply #3849 on:** 2017-09-26 11:44:56 »

I do apologize if it has been answered before but I really wanted to know if it was possible to have the model overhaul apply to everything else EXCEPT the lego like models that you run around with. This is the first time I am using Steam and playing Final Fantasy VII, and I truly want a great experience with playing the game for the first time. I do like the change to the models while running around but I just find the lego like models to be more charming to me. If anyone can direct me toward how I can do this or even see this as an option in future builds then I would really appreciate it.