Author Topic: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods and Modding Framework-The Reunion [R06f] (Read 3048878 times)

DLPB_ · « **Reply #1450 on:** 2015-05-24 23:33:41 »

Already have Sarita, but Pouran could just as easily be Polan or Poran etc. References too vague. There are other names that also fit. "Successor" in Persian is really vague.

DLPB_ · « **Reply #1451 on:** 2015-05-25 02:42:45 »

@IlDucci

You have done a perfect job adding the lovehearts to the original font. I will add you to the credit list somewhere. Thanks

http://i.imgur.com/b0UilVz.png

I've gone back to one Loveheart there though in next release, and the text is "I'm getting all excited"

DLPB_ · « **Reply #1452 on:** 2015-05-25 05:16:26 »

Corel Bridge
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjYyWrEdtnc&hd=1

Rufus · « **Reply #1453 on:** 2015-05-25 20:18:17 »

hmm okay, so how many other scenes were removed from FF7 that are like the one you linked?

And were they removed in both Japanese and US ones, or were they in japan only and not put in the US version.

can I also confirm that the retranslation project is finished, i know it says it on the main page but it seems like people are still having conversations about it as if it's been worked on.

I haven't used the installer yet, I will be using the retranslation when it comes to 7th heaven which should be soon, but I hope i can choose certain names and certain places to be canon or not, like midgar zolom, mideel, marlene etc.

this is one of the most important mods out there, I would prefer to see full text comparisons, watching the video links isnt' the easiest way to see what has been changed as you need to setup two videos and alt tab between them.

DLPB_ · « **Reply #1454 on:** 2015-05-25 21:13:20 »

There is always room for improvement, but all major revisions are complete. There will never be another major revision. As for when this will be "finalized", I think it's reaching that point, but I want to give people the chance to run through it and so on. Especially people who know Japanese. I consider this in a professional state already, it's just a case of tweaking and fixing.

Like with computing, the project doesn't ever really get "finished", it gets abandoned. There is no such thing as perfect. It just comes to a point that I am satisfied to stop changing it, and we are almost at that point. The question is - after R03c, will the changes really be noticeable. The answer is... not really.

Certain changes have been changed for good. As of R03c, Nibl, Midhir, and Da Zhao have replaced Nibel, Mideel and Da Chao permanently. Midgar Zolom has been changed in FF games after VII already and has never been an option. The options allow for change of District to Sector (because it's become ingrained more than the rest, due largely to spin-offs), Series canon, and old character names. This concession has been made because on certain names we cannot be 100% sure we are right, and we do not know if the writers are okay with the American localization. I am assuming they are fine with it. If they weren't, I'd force the lot.

If you are unhappy with this, you are free to edit the retranslation with touphScript tool.

Edit

Lovehearts now included with original game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RcLzcImroY&hd=1

Rufus · « **Reply #1455 on:** 2015-05-26 00:06:56 »

oh no that's okay, I am happy with the general text changes I just didn't like how marlenes name would be changed.

I assumed there would be options to change these things but the point I should have brougth up better was how will these options carry over to 7th heaven.

7th Heaven only supports options like on/off and drop down, which may not be enough for beacuses options

Vir · « **Reply #1456 on:** 2015-05-26 00:49:09 »

Just a point of information that I didn't find confirmed but others may wonder: the reinstated scene on the Corel rope bridge has no affection value impact (at least not on Aerith or Barret, who were with me at the time). I checked in Black Chocobo.

Disregard this post. Search didn't find the information initially, but now I see DLPB had said yesterday that he was adding the points.

DLPB_ · « **Reply #1457 on:** 2015-05-26 00:59:25 »

Quote from: Vir on 2015-05-26 00:49:09

Just a point of information that I didn't find confirmed but others may wonder: the reinstated scene on the Corel rope bridge has no affection value impact (at least not on Aerith or Barret, who were with me at the time). I checked in Black Chocobo.

I'm adding it beacause I think it's likely it was intended to be there.

Vir · « **Reply #1458 on:** 2015-05-26 01:11:11 »

I don't have any question about whether it should be added. To me, it's the more dialog choices, the merrier.

I was just curious whether there were affection values to the choices, so I checked. I thought other people might wonder, too, so I tried to make a post searches could turn up.

DLPB_ · « **Reply #1459 on:** 2015-05-26 01:16:59 »

Oh, I wasn't giving a lecture on it

Literally, I am adding it... for the following reason. I understood your post

Vir · « **Reply #1460 on:** 2015-05-26 01:22:50 »

OH. You are adding it--affection value! Ok, I imagine you'll post how much when you do so then?

DLPB_ · « **Reply #1461 on:** 2015-05-26 01:33:22 »

Quote from: Vir on 2015-05-26 01:22:50

OH. You are adding it--affection value! Ok, I imagine you'll post how much when you do so then?

Yup.

HeroComplexx · « **Reply #1462 on:** 2015-05-26 02:29:03 »

I can not for the life of me figure out how to download the retranslation. Where is the download link??

DLPB_ · « **Reply #1463 on:** 2015-05-26 02:35:31 »

Quote from: HeroComplexx on 2015-05-26 02:29:03

I can not for the life of me figure out how to download the retranslation. Where is the download link??

It has been removed. As the first post says, wait for R03c. There are several new changes that forced me to withdraw it. It won't be long until R03c is released.

HeroComplexx · « **Reply #1464 on:** 2015-05-26 02:40:36 »

Ahh Ok I was wondering what that was all about. I sure would love to start a new game though, even with the old version. I suppose there is no way for me to have access to that

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DLPB_ · « **Reply #1465 on:** 2015-05-26 02:47:10 »

Since lovehearts are in new version, you are much better off waiting. Play the game as intended

Also, Love Points for the Corel Bridge are as follows:

If Tifa hears Cloud would catch her +2.
If Tifa hears Cloud discussing her chances of survival -3

If Aerith hears Cloud would catch her +2
Aerith doesn't lose any points for hearing Cloud tell her he is more dangerous (since it's a joke and could also be considered to be helping take her mind off the bridge).

If Tifa is in the party, Aerith's dialogue will not be seen. This is because the two scenarios are almost identical and cannot work together.

If Yuffie is in the party, neither Aerith nor Tifa's dialogue will be seen. This is because it doesn't flow correctly, and also having Yuffie in the party should negate any love points for the other two.

If Red and Barrett are in the party, only Barrett's dialogue is seen. Otherwise, this happens:

"I'm back..."
"Humans are strange creatures."

Vir · « **Reply #1466 on:** 2015-05-26 03:01:36 »

Thanks for the prompt information, DLPB. I edited my initial post and also by chance saw that you discussed adding them yesterday already. My search didn't work, but the same amount of time haphazardly reading recent pages would have ^^

By the way, I'd also like to add thank you for the retranslation. I've gone as far as meeting Cait Sith and it's certainly been an improvement so far. Between it and gjoerulv's, the old game enjoys a much higher quality of life

HeroComplexx · « **Reply #1467 on:** 2015-05-26 03:49:17 »

Yea very cool project. Can I sign up to be notified of updates? Is that a thing? [email protected]

Vir · « **Reply #1468 on:** 2015-05-26 04:04:42 »

You can be notified by email of posts to this thread by clicking the Notify button at bottom, there. For whatever reason, it doesn't always notify you of new posts.

spy__dragon · « **Reply #1469 on:** 2015-05-26 14:09:17 »

DLPB, I have doubt in map mkt_mens

What does mean in Cloud's line?

---TEXT018---
{CLOUD}
“Hang on,are you a ma…”
---TEXT019---
{AERIS}
“…MAGNIFICENT Bro!”

Cloud did mean other word? A word which is an insult for the Big Bro?

Regards.

DLPB_ · « **Reply #1470 on:** 2015-05-26 14:27:21 »

Cloud is saying "Are you a man", but this is covered up by Aerith. Cloud has only just realized that it's a man dressed up as a woman.

Ver Greeneyes · « **Reply #1471 on:** 2015-05-26 16:15:13 »

Nitpicking, but if Aerith is cutting Cloud off, his sentence should probably end with an em-dash (—) rather than an ellipsis. Similarly I don't think Aerith's line needs to start with an ellipsis. See e.g. The Dash vs the Ellipsis and Grammar-ease: Ellipsis versus the em-dash for examples on usage.

obesebear · « **Reply #1472 on:** 2015-05-26 16:51:21 »

Her dialog should also end with a question mark if she's continuing clouds sentence

DLPB_ · « **Reply #1473 on:** 2015-05-26 19:01:23 »

We have no em-dash on the font, hence I use hyphens and ellipsis.

The ellipsis starting her sentence is a choice. I think it looks better. I've kept that consistent throughout.

@Obesebear... yeah, you may be right. What say Covarr?

Covarr · « **Reply #1474 on:** 2015-05-26 20:05:16 »

I think the ! works, because she isn't really asking anything, just interrupting.

How does this scene look on-screen? Does her textbox appear partway through the script and physically cover his up?