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Title: What is her name?
Post by: Number XIII: Roxas on 2009-06-15 06:12:28
I know her name i just want to see who all know it.

(http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss191/alexhelman/Aeris/7ac-aeris-1.jpg)
Title: Re: What is her name?
Post by: obesebear on 2009-06-15 06:34:45
Earisu
Title: Re: What is her name?
Post by: Yuffie_Lover on 2009-06-15 06:35:11
Is that the Japanese translation?
Title: Re: What is her name?
Post by: Number XIII: Roxas on 2009-06-15 07:05:05
I am going to need your answer in English. I am a white boy. :-D
Title: Re: What is her name?
Post by: yoshi314 on 2009-06-15 14:11:30
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http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss191/alexhelman/Aeris/7ac-aeris-1.jpgSpoiler? Trap?
Title: Re: What is her name?
Post by: Grimmy on 2009-06-15 15:07:25
In the original ffvii psx english release her name was Aeris, and the pc port follows suit. This has been changed to Aerith in virtually every game she has been in since(KH,KH2,CC, etc.). So if you take a game as an individual work of art then her name is dependent on the game you are playing. If you see it as a series then her name is Aerith and she needs to have the s replaced with th when she joins your party in FFVII.
Title: Re: What is her name?
Post by: DLPB_ on 2009-06-15 17:46:06
her name is Aerith.  in fact it is Aerith in the PSX and PC debug menus....  how they missed that is beyond me.

Typical debug:

{CHOICE}South Reactor
      
{CHOICE}NIVLHAIM tragedy
      
{CHOICE}Gold Saucer
{CHOICE}take off Tiny Bronco
{CHOICE}AERITH death
{CHOICE}SEPHIROTH
{CHOICE}WEAPON attack
{CHOICE}CLOUD psychoanalusis
      
{CHOICE}METEO intercept failure
{CHOICE}Shoot SISTER LAY
Title: Re: What is her name?
Post by: Number XIII: Roxas on 2009-06-15 18:08:47
Yes it may be. But no. it is Aeris. Play the game for the PS. Or take a look at the original guid or the book that come with the game it says her name is Aeris not Aerith.
Title: Re: What is her name?
Post by: DLPB_ on 2009-06-15 18:10:04
Yes it may be. But no. it is Aeris. Play the game for the PS. Or take a look at the original guid or the book that come with the game it says her name is Aeris not Aerith.


The PS game was incorrectly translated and so was her name.  Her official name is Aerith.  This isn't debatable.

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Aerith's original Japanese name is エアリス (Earisu) [eaɺ̠is(ɯ)] Aerith (Japanese)This has been transliterated to "Aeris" in Final Fantasy VII and Final Fantasy Tactics, but later as "Aerith". Both transliterations have basis, as the Japanese "su" (ス) is used when transcribing "s" (/s/) and "th" (/θ/) to Japanese. However, official Japanese material uses the spelling "Aerith",[6][7][8] and developers have stated that "Aerith" is a near-anagram of the English word "Earth".[9]

Title: Re: What is her name?
Post by: guitar_dudester91 on 2009-06-15 19:06:58
Here comes almighty Seifer ti tell everyone it is not debatable..... Nice opinion you control freak.  :-D

Anyways, her name Aeris. that was the original.
Title: Re: What is her name?
Post by: Opine on 2009-06-15 21:01:44
{CHOICE}Shoot SISTER LAY
If I was the most powerful company in the world, I'd build a giant gun, and name it Sister Lay, too.
Yeah...
Title: Re: What is her name?
Post by: DLPB_ on 2009-06-15 21:29:41
Here comes almighty Seifer ti tell everyone it is not debatable..... Nice opinion you control freak.  :-D

Anyways, her name Aeris. that was the original.

her name isn't Aeris.  The developers said so. Do you have some issue in taking in facts?  They used Aerith because it is  a near anagram of Earth.  Aerith is her name.  End of.  Just because a translation team make a mistake doesn't mean that the mistake is suddenly correct just because it was there.  That is a ludicrous suggestion.

If something is poorly translated then it is to be corrected.  Aerith is how it is spelled in the advent children credits I believe.  If it wasn't meant to be Aerith then it wouldn't be in all the official documentation after VII and it is....so that is the end of it.  Some things are facts, some are opinion and when they are fact I don't expect a debate on it.  It is time people learned when to just accept something rather than argue on and on.

Would you argue pipes with a plumber?
Title: Re: What is her name?
Post by: Grimmy on 2009-06-15 21:55:36
Seifer is right, if he wasn't the name would be Aeris in Crisis Core. However they used the more correct translation Aerith. I don't think you can base the name on a debug room argument though since she is also given the name Princess in at least one room. So the default in the original game will always be set to Aeris and if that is the only game in the series it would be her real name. But there is Crisis Core and that should end the debate. This debate is old and I remember when I was 19('98) standing out front of the local lasertag people were having this same debate.
Title: Re: What is her name?
Post by: Prince Lex on 2009-06-16 00:22:13
Her name is Aerith and this has been corrected in all FF7-related compilation titles. It's Aerith, not Aeris.
Title: Re: What is her name?
Post by: guitar_dudester91 on 2009-06-16 07:23:42
I disagree. Its Aeris. I'm going to debate it. It's called originality. So what if the team did not translate it to a T. They probably had a good reason for it. I, and any other person who is old enough to have played the original game, would know that it's Aeris, not Aerith. "End of."

Yep I did. Because you're wrong.
Title: Re: What is her name?
Post by: Number XIII: Roxas on 2009-06-16 07:33:46
i am only 14 and i know it is Aeris
Title: Re: What is her name?
Post by: DLPB_ on 2009-06-16 12:05:32
I disagree. Its Aeris. I'm going to debate it. It's called originality. So what if the team did not translate it to a T. They probably had a good reason for it. I, and any other person who is old enough to have played the original game, would know that it's Aeris, not Aerith. "End of."

Yep I did. Because you're wrong.

Debate all you like, the developers said it is Aerith.  If a writer tells you directly what a name is, then you have to be rather stupid to argue.  Let's have a debate on if the world is round or flat.
Title: Re: What is her name?
Post by: Opine on 2009-06-16 12:27:10
Was the entire point of this thread just to start this argument?
Title: Re: What is her name?
Post by: guitar_dudester91 on 2009-06-16 13:41:14
Thanks Alex. well that's too bad that the developers said that. Because if it were really true, then it wouldn't have ever been Aeris. They would have just avoided the problem that you seem to be having. So I would say it's Aeris.
Title: Re: What is her name?
Post by: obesebear on 2009-06-16 15:07:29
Was the entire point of this thread just to start this argument?
Yes.  Which is why the first couple of posters didn't directly answer the troll's question.
Title: Re: What is her name?
Post by: Number XIII: Roxas on 2009-06-16 19:26:10
No this is not to start a argument. i wanted to see who all got it right. If Aeris was a mistack and it should be Aerith then why was it never fixed in FF7 they would have called back the game and fix it but they didn't. My sis has the greatest hits for the
PlayStation. The Greatest Hits always comes after the firest sold a lot of copyes. If it was a mistake the Greatest hits would say Aerith not Aeris. But it says Aeris.
Title: Re: What is her name?
Post by: DLPB_ on 2009-06-16 20:47:48
If you arent listening to what people are telling you and have already made your mind up, why ask a question?  The writers of the game have told you what is correct yet you think they are wrong?

lmao
Title: Re: What is her name?
Post by: Covarr on 2009-06-16 20:51:40
Did they fix her name in the PSN rerelease?
Title: Re: What is her name?
Post by: DLPB_ on 2009-06-16 20:52:42
Did they fix her name in the PSN rerelease?

I don't know, but I do know they left in all the other mistakes anyway.  They changed basically...nothing.

http://www.neoseeker.com/forums/1169/t1373026-discussion-ffvii-psn-differences/2.htm

Looks like...no.,  They even left in "this guy are sick"
Title: Re: What is her name?
Post by: hotdog963al on 2009-06-16 21:07:49
I prefer Aeris, and will always call her that.
Title: Re: What is her name?
Post by: The Seer of Shadows on 2009-06-17 02:36:15
No this is not to start a argument.

But please tell me you saw this coming.  If you're 14, then you should be perceptive enough.

And is arguing over this really necessary, everyone?  We are talking about a fictional character's name and whether it ends with "s" or "th".  Does it make the slightest difference?  It's like getting into an argument with your parents because they named you Ivan at birth when you prefer the name Evan.  It's just a name!
Title: Re: What is her name?
Post by: Number XIII: Roxas on 2009-06-17 23:09:30
Nope i wanted just an answer. Not facts just what you think it should be or is . And i get an argument.
Title: Re: What is her name?
Post by: Chrysalis on 2009-06-18 19:56:00
what did you expect?

you asked a question and then disputed the answer given? result is a argument/debate.

Her name is Aerith, Aeris was a mistake.
Title: Re: What is her name?
Post by: DLPB_ on 2009-06-18 19:58:44
what did you expect?

you asked a question and then disputed the answer given? result is a argument/debate.

Her name is Aerith, Aeris was a mistake.


That is the point.  When a person won't accept what the writers have said or that all future installments have shown Aerith, you know there is an issue with the person and not the question.
Title: Re: What is her name?
Post by: guitar_dudester91 on 2009-06-18 20:28:51
Future installments aren't the original idea. So saying its the developers' idea to change it, then wtf. First they said Aeris, but they thought Aerith was a better idea. that doesn't matter. The name is still Aeris. There's no issue with the person, its just the difference between opinions, and the difference between a few control freak assholes.
Title: Re: What is her name?
Post by: Covarr on 2009-06-18 20:48:57
When Vegeta was first introduced in Dragon Ball Z, his colors were all wrong (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/ab/Vegeta_First.PNG), such as red hair. This was a mistake caused by the fact that Toei Animation hadn't seen any color images of Vegeta at that point (he wasn't shown in color in that issue), so they just guessed at the colors. Then, when they realized their mistake, they fixed it in all future incarnations.

Just because they originally portrayed his hair as red doesn't make it red. It makes it a MISTAKE.

FFVII is the same way. Aeris was a translation mistake caused by the fact that the localization team didn't get that her name was supposed to have all the letters of "earth" in it, so they just guessed at the spelling. Then, when they realized their mistake, they fixed it in all future incarnations.

Just because they originally spelled it Aeris doesn't make it Aeris. It makes it a MISTAKE.
Title: Re: What is her name?
Post by: Prince Lex on 2009-06-18 20:50:27
When Vegeta was first introduced in Dragon Ball Z, his colors were all wrong (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/ab/Vegeta_First.PNG), such as red hair. This was a mistake caused by the fact that Toei Animation hadn't seen any color images of Vegeta at that point (he wasn't shown in color in that issue), so they just guessed at the colors. Then, when they realized their mistake, they fixed it in all future incarnations.

Just because they originally portrayed his hair as red doesn't make it red. It makes it a MISTAKE.

FFVII is the same way. Aeris was a translation mistake caused by the fact that the localization team didn't get that her name was supposed to have all the letters of "earth" in it, so they just guessed at the spelling. Then, when they realized their mistake, they fixed it in all future incarnations.

Just because they originally spelled it Aeris doesn't make it Aeris. It makes it a MISTAKE.

Kudos. Agreed.Thank you.
Title: Re: What is her name?
Post by: DLPB_ on 2009-06-18 21:09:47
its just the difference between opinions

There is NO opinion here.  Please learn the difference between FACT and OPINION.  You can't debate Aerith anymore than you can debate the shape of Earth.
Title: Re: What is her name?
Post by: Jari on 2009-06-18 21:23:24
(http://borgborg.org/duty_calls.png)
Title: Re: What is her name?
Post by: guitar_dudester91 on 2009-06-19 05:25:54
There is NO opinion here.  Please learn the difference between FACT and OPINION.  You can't debate Aerith anymore than you can debate the shape of Earth.

Bullshit there isn't. That was the fucking point of this thread. You sir, are a nuisance to society. It's Aeris.

Bandito, you always have the funniest posts lol.
Title: Re: What is her name?
Post by: DLPB_ on 2009-06-19 10:06:37
Let me know when you have learned what a fact and what an opinion is.  Until then it is a waste of time talking to you.  You are like one of those religious bigots who claim their god exists as fact and when you try telling them it is just opinion they put their fingers in their ears and go insane.  Your exactly the same except it is over computer games  :lol:

 8-)
Title: Re: What is her name?
Post by: Jari on 2009-06-19 10:14:48
(http://borgborg.org/pot_kettle_black.jpg)
Title: Re: What is her name?
Post by: yoshi314 on 2009-06-19 11:21:23
/thread ?
Title: Re: What is her name?
Post by: DLPB_ on 2009-06-19 11:26:10
Well I think most of us have done with this topic because plainly questions are being asked by people who have no interest in answers

 :mrgreen:

Title: Re: What is her name?
Post by: Jari on 2009-06-19 12:04:53
Oh, poor thing, why did you edit away your lame attempt to mock me? :-D

Tsk tsk, again editing your posts. Bad Seifer, bad! :lol:
Title: Re: What is her name?
Post by: DLPB_ on 2009-06-19 12:13:10
you aren't worth it.  keep it to pm you ignorant little troll.
Title: Re: What is her name?
Post by: Jari on 2009-06-19 12:19:56
you aren't worth it.  keep it to pm you ignorant little troll.

:-D

You are trying to mock me in public, and ask me to keep it to PM? :-P

Don't think so. Besides, I enjoy humiliating you in public way too much. :-D But please, do keep sending those PMs, and I'll keep posting them in public, just like I promised I would.

But right now I must go visit my father's grave. I hope you'll forgive me for being unavailable to play with you for the next hour or two?
Title: Re: What is her name?
Post by: Covarr on 2009-06-19 17:17:18
Let me know when you have learned what a fact and what an opinion is.  Until then it is a waste of time talking to you.  You are like one of those religious bigots who claim their god exists as fact and when you try telling them it is just opinion they put their fingers in their ears and go insane.  Your exactly the same except it is over computer games  :lol:

 8-)
Wrong. Just because it can't be proven doesn't make it a fact, nor does it make the other side a fact. A definite statement is a fact, whether true or false. "There is a God" is a factual statement, as is "There is no God". For it to be an opinion, the correctness of the statement needs to vary based on the person saying it. For example, "Red is my favorite color" is an opinion, because its about personal preferences and taste. As for whether or not there's a God, there either is or there isn't. There isn't a God for one person and no God for another, that's simply illogical. "I prefer believing in God to not believing" is an opinion, as is "I dislike Christians/Atheists", but to state the existence of a given deity is a factual statement. You can debate the accuracy of it, claim it erroneous or correct, but it's not a matter of fact vs opinion, just correct vs incorrect.
Title: Re: What is her name?
Post by: DLPB_ on 2009-06-19 18:09:13
Actually you are correct in that case, because there IS an answer, even if it might be unattainable now or ever.  So maybe that was a poor choice of analogy.  But most people would consider it opinion until one knows for sure.  Everyone can have an opinion on something if the fact is not known.

However, going back to my earlier argument.  You can't debate aerith's name because the developers have said what it is supposed to be and the later games corrected it, so in this case that is a fact :)
Title: Re: What is her name?
Post by: obesebear on 2009-06-19 18:14:28
Just because it can't be proven doesn't make it a fact, nor does it make the other side a fact. A definite statement is a fact, whether true or false. "There is a God" is a factual statement, as is "There is no God". For it to be an opinion, the correctness of the statement needs to vary based on the person saying it. For example, "Red is my favorite color" is an opinion, because its about personal preferences and taste. As for whether or not there's a God, there either is or there isn't. There isn't a God for one person and no God for another, that's simply illogical. "I prefer believing in God to not believing" is an opinion, as is "I dislike Christians/Atheists", but to state the existence of a given deity is a factual statement. You can debate the accuracy of it, claim it erroneous or correct, but it's not a matter of fact vs opinion, just correct vs incorrect.
I think you've gotten yourself confused.  For someone to say "There is a God" is actually an opinion, because there isn't any proof one way or the other.  "I believe there is a God", is a fact.  For someone to say "My favorite color is red" (and not be lying) is a fact, because that person's favorite color is red.  If they were to say "The best color is red", that would be an opinion since other people would disagree
Title: Re: What is her name?
Post by: DLPB_ on 2009-06-19 18:16:23
Just because it can't be proven doesn't make it a fact, nor does it make the other side a fact. A definite statement is a fact, whether true or false. "There is a God" is a factual statement, as is "There is no God". For it to be an opinion, the correctness of the statement needs to vary based on the person saying it. For example, "Red is my favorite color" is an opinion, because its about personal preferences and taste. As for whether or not there's a God, there either is or there isn't. There isn't a God for one person and no God for another, that's simply illogical. "I prefer believing in God to not believing" is an opinion, as is "I dislike Christians/Atheists", but to state the existence of a given deity is a factual statement. You can debate the accuracy of it, claim it erroneous or correct, but it's not a matter of fact vs opinion, just correct vs incorrect.
I think you've gotten yourself confused.  For someone to say "There is a God" is actually an opinion, because there isn't any proof one way or the other.  "I believe there is a God", is a fact.  For someone to say "My favorite color is red" (and not be lying) is a fact, because that person's favorite color is red.  If they were to say "The best color is red", that would be an opinion since other people would disagree

I can see what he means by it being a fact simply because it isn't known and that there is a definate answer, but I agree with you

"red is the best colour"  opinion

"My favourite colour is red" fact

"There is a God"  Opinion but one which does have a definate answer

"I believe in God"  Fact

Title: Re: What is her name?
Post by: guitar_dudester91 on 2009-06-19 19:06:51
The only way the developers could have corrected the game is to recall ever singly copy of the original game and reprogram her name into it as Aerith. The original ideas, storyboards, plotline, etc., all decided as Aeris for a name. So in complete originality, Aeris is the name. Just because someone changed their mind doesn't mean its right.

You should learn the difference between fact and opinion. Until then it is a waste of time talking to you. My god does exist, but don't bring that into a thread that isn't even close to dealing with that. It isn't and opinion. Oh oh oh, here's my favorite line by you Seifer, you annoying little girly boy. " End of."

El Ammo, you are my new hero. Would you please post those Pm's, if it isn't too much trouble? I think it would be great to see them, and see Seifer in a public struggle  :-D  :-D  :-D
Title: Re: What is her name?
Post by: DLPB_ on 2009-06-19 19:34:42
The only way the developers could have corrected the game is to recall ever singly copy of the original game and reprogram her name into it as Aerith.
 So in complete originality, Aeris is the name. Just because someone changed their mind doesn't mean its right.


Do you realise how illogical and inaccurate that sounds?  How would you propose they recalled millions of copies on the shelves at the time and said "Right it was a translation error....so for this 1 name we will have to bin the lot"

get real.  Nobody changed their mind.  It was translation error.  And it isn't "someone"  It is the writers of the game.  They created her.
Title: Re: What is her name?
Post by: Kudistos Megistos on 2009-06-19 19:46:15
I was going to make a tl;dr post about the meaning of the word opinion in this context (because it's meaning does differ slightly depending on context) and which of the examples that were given were facts and which were opinions, but instead I'm going to post a link to a picture that shows my reaction after reading that last couple of posts (http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/5444/facepalmcompilation.jpg).

Yes, yes, I know that a similar pic was posted in another thread recently, but I can't think of anything that better sums up my feelings.
Title: Re: What is her name?
Post by: Alhexx on 2009-06-19 19:54:51
Bullsh*t there isn't. That was the f***ing point of this thread. You sir, are a nuisance to society.
Cut it.

I know her name i just want to see who all know it.
Both Aerith and Aeris are valid answers as the character on the picture appeared using both names. It doesn't matter which name she had originally or that she was called Aerith in all games except for FF7. And no, it's not an opinion what her name is.

"There is a God"  Opinion but one which does have a definate answer
Actually, that's not an opinion but a claim. If the claim could be proven right, then it would become a fact. If it could be proven wrong, then it would become a lie.
The problem is that in this case it can neither be proven right nor proven wrong (at least as long as you live), so it remains to be a claim.

 - Alhexx
Title: Re: What is her name?
Post by: guitar_dudester91 on 2009-06-19 20:41:01
Get real. they would have told those millions of people when the game came out. Actually, as a matter of fact, the developers must have tested the f***ing game before they released it. So having tested it, and more than likely ran through numerous playthroughs, you're telling me that they were completely oblivious to the fact that there was a translation error? And that they completely missed the fact that you thought it should be Aerith?

This pic sms up my feelings for you, Seifer - http://www.flickr.com/photos/23816315@N07/2528296337/

 :-D  :-D  :-D  :evil:

Also, my previous post was a sarcastic idea to show you how completely idiotic you're being.
Title: Re: What is her name?
Post by: DLPB_ on 2009-06-19 21:01:09
Get real. they would have told those millions of people when the game came out. Actually, as a matter of fact, the developers must have tested the f***ing game before they released it. So having tested it, and more than likely ran through numerous playthroughs, you're telling me that they were completely oblivious to the fact that there was a translation error? And that they completely missed the fact that you thought it should be Aerith?

This pic sms up my feelings for you, Seifer - http://www.flickr.com/photos/23816315@N07/2528296337/

 :-D  :-D  :-D  :evil:

Also, my previous post was a sarcastic idea to show you how completely idiotic you're being.

Your ignorance is showing.

The writers don't test games in this way.  The people who do are called "testers" and generally they do not look for translation errors, that is the "translators" job.  The game was released properly in the native language, Japanese.  It is then translated.  If there is a translation error after the game has been rebuilt and released it is TOO LATE to correct it.  

Or do you think "This guy are bad" , "beacause"  or all the other errors


were supposed to be in the game as well?  FF7 used what seems to be a sub standard translation team.
Title: Re: What is her name?
Post by: guitar_dudester91 on 2009-06-19 21:03:53
So you're saying that you know everything and was there when the testers worked on the game. Also, I'm sure the developers speak English, and more than likely knew whta they were doing when they named her Aeris, her name. So. Yep. I think you are just arguing with the fact that people on here are starting to respect you less and less every post you put up. That's just my "opinion" though. Or is it a claim?.....
Title: Re: What is her name?
Post by: DLPB_ on 2009-06-19 21:07:17
So you're saying that you know everything and was there when the testers worked on the game. Also, I'm sure the developers speak English, and more than likely knew whta they were doing when they named her Aeris, her name. So. Yep. I think you are just arguing with the fact that people on here are starting to respect you less and less every post you put up. That's just my "opinion" though. Or is it a claim?.....

I don't think Kitase/sakaguchi/Nomura speak english.,  All interviews I have seen have been translated but they had no input in translation.  That isn't their job.  They write the game in japanese, it is then translated by a completely different dept.  You are refusing to acknowledge some very basic FACTS here:

1.  All games after FF7 have been released using Aerith (and advent children credits lists her as such)
2.  The writers have stated Aerith is a near anagram of Earth (which Aeris isn't)
3.  The game had LOADS of spelling and translation errors other than Aerith
4.  It is a separate dept that translates the game

Why you keep arguing on is beyond me.

Title: Re: What is her name?
Post by: Jari on 2009-06-19 21:09:23
Apparently it would have been sooooooo much easier if they had just translated her name into 'That Cetra bitch'. There are only so many ways to spell that.
Title: Re: What is her name?
Post by: guitar_dudester91 on 2009-06-19 21:10:13
Fucking Cetra whore can't have a normal name. Dammit! ha ha ha ha ha oh shit i laughed my ass off over that one Ammo  :-D

PM's?
Title: Re: What is her name?
Post by: DLPB_ on 2009-06-19 21:15:47
f***ing Cetra whore can't have a normal name. Dammit! ha ha ha ha ha oh sh*t i laughed my ass off over that one Ammo  :-D

PM's?

he isn't getting any PM's from me again, and even if he did it would be no concern of yours, so please stop inciting trouble.
Title: Re: What is her name?
Post by: guitar_dudester91 on 2009-06-19 21:19:20
Inciting? Oh I'm sorry I wasn't talking to you. That must have been a translation error too.

Ammo, an earlier post mentioned you might post those pm's?  Sorry i just wanted to see Seifer at his lowest  :-D  :roll:
Title: Re: What is her name?
Post by: DLPB_ on 2009-06-19 21:20:45
Inciting? Oh I'm sorry I wasn't talking to you. That must have been a translation error too.

Ammo, an earlier post mentioned you might post those pm's?  Sorry i just wanted to see Seifer at his lowest  :-D  :roll:

He has already posted all of the pm's, I have better things to do with my time than post to him day in and out.  You are one of the worst trolls I have ever seen.  Don't you belong on Lifestream forums?
Title: Re: What is her name?
Post by: guitar_dudester91 on 2009-06-19 21:22:09
Ahem. Ammo was who I was talking too. I'm not sure how to translate that better for you. Or maybe you thought it was an opinion?

FACT - I directed the question at Ammo, not Seifer.
Title: Re: What is her name?
Post by: DLPB_ on 2009-06-19 21:24:40
Ahem. Ammo was who I was talking too. I'm not sure how to translate that better for you. Or maybe you thought it was an opinion?

FACT - I directed the question at Ammo, not Seifer.

if it is about pms I sent then obviously it is to do with me, you bloody idiot.
Title: Re: What is her name?
Post by: guitar_dudester91 on 2009-06-19 21:32:41
It may have to do with you but I wasn't talking to you, you bloody idiot.
Title: Re: What is her name?
Post by: Jari on 2009-06-19 21:36:43
But seriously, this whole tread about a transliteration of a name?

Frankly, only thing I'm even slightly interested is whether 'Aeris' is a case of translator not having a look at the original material - for whatever reason - or a case of localization. Because 'Aerith' does sound as if you were speaking with a serious lisp.

When I was an angsty 15 year old - which was a f***ing long time ago, I used to think all localization was bad. But it's not. Case in point; Finnish translation of Harry Potter books - it's bloody brilliant. And it does something you don't normally do with translations; they translated some of the names, like Snape, into something that carried over the original intent very, very well, but at the same time was understandable to the younger readers. That translation received several awards and for a good reason, too. I could have read them in English just as well, but I didn't feel that I had to - I didn't lose anything by reading the translation and in fact I thought that some of the ideas were really clever.

D00dz, this thread is like a litmus test for FF7 fanboyism. Do you understand that you have argued for three pages over one syllable? ONE. f***ING. SYLLABLE. Which doesn't even really change the meaning of the name, I'd say that the link between Aerith and Earth is pretty weak - you won't lose much if you call her Aeris.

And Seifer, don't you ever dare to claim that you are not a FF7 fanboy. If you do, I'll just point you back to this thread.


PS. Seifer, actually it was you who posted most of the PMs. :-D

EDIT: guitar_dudester91, the PMs be here: http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=8485.25 Takes a bit of an effort to sort them out, as Seifer mangled the quotes, but it should be fairly obvious who wrote what.
Title: Re: What is her name?
Post by: guitar_dudester91 on 2009-06-19 21:38:37
Ammo, I would like a picture of you with a gold medal around your neck. Please.  :-D
Title: Re: What is her name?
Post by: Alhexx on 2009-06-20 11:49:35
D00dz, this thread is like a litmus test for FF7 fanboyism. Do you understand that you have argued for three pages over one syllable? ONE. f***ING. SYLLABLE. Which doesn't even really change the meaning of the name, I'd say that the link between Aerith and Earth is pretty weak - you won't lose much if you call her Aeris.

Exactly. Topic closed.

 - Alhexx