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Title: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: Trishty on 2009-07-23 05:20:07
Zhao Yun
(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa301/votinh193/3dsmax2009-07-2300-42-53-85.jpg)

In game screenshoot
(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa301/votinh193/ff72009-07-2312-00-40-87.jpg)
(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa301/votinh193/ff72009-07-2312-00-45-78.jpg)
(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa301/votinh193/ff72009-07-2312-00-46-32.jpg)
(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa301/votinh193/ff72009-07-2312-00-47-09.jpg)
(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa301/votinh193/ff72009-07-2312-00-49-04.jpg)
(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa301/votinh193/ff72009-07-2312-00-49-42.jpg)
(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa301/votinh193/ff72009-07-2312-00-49-85.jpg)
(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa301/votinh193/ff72009-07-2312-00-51-46.jpg)
(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa301/votinh193/ff72009-07-2312-02-02-20.jpg)
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: Nero on 2009-07-23 06:21:23
Hmm, I’ve never played dynasty warriors but your model look really good. Nice one. :lol:
Btw I think I am using the same Vincent model that you have in your screenshots though I can’t see very clearly and mine has no polygons at the back of its’ cape. I added the polygons with kimera but the game seems to ignore the changes I made and also the model just cannot be exported properly into 3DS format. I was just wandering if you have experienced any similar problems.
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: obesebear on 2009-07-23 06:30:55
Hmm, I’ve never played dynasty warriors but your model look really good. Nice one. :lol:
Btw I think I am using the same Vincent model that you have in your screenshots though I can’t see very clearly and mine has no polygons at the back of its’ cape. I added the polygons with kimera but the game seems to ignore the changes I made and also the model just cannot be exported properly into 3DS format. I was just wandering if you have experienced any similar problems.

Your Vincent is from a beta/alpha release.  The problem is the texture was only mapped to one side of the cape.  In order to have it on both sides you would need to make copies of all the polygons using Blender or Max then flip them, then connect your new cape section to the original.
If you would like to start from scratch, the Vincent model is originally from the Jedi Knights game and can be downloaded at their forums.
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: Nero on 2009-07-23 06:39:58
I wanted to fix it though 3dsmax but as I mention biturn doesn’t convert it properly into 3ds format, it just can’t see all the body parts (including the cape). I guess I’ll try starting from scratch.
Anyway thanks obesebear :-)
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: Nahatma on 2009-07-23 12:01:47
wow it does look *very* good!

btw, i have a favor to ask you,(if its okay with you), could you send me your vincent model file for field and battle? (thank you!)
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: Nero on 2009-07-23 12:54:07
Yeah I would love to have him too if it’s okay or at least the cape and the tex file if it has all the textures on, that could surly save me from some trouble. (thanks)
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: Matt2Tees on 2009-08-09 23:18:39
I downloaded this vincent fan model from the jedi knight website and was wondering how to convert it to a .3ds or .obj so I can edit it. Does anyone know?
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: Tekkie.X on 2009-08-09 23:54:50
You'd need to find any import/export plugins for Jedi Academy and then import the file into your modelling program and go from there.
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: halkun on 2009-08-10 05:42:18
... I mean if you wanted too, but talking about ripping models from other games and putting them into FF7 is kind of a no-no nowadays.
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: Matt2Tees on 2009-08-10 08:21:53
Don't worry, all I needed was a plugin for a .glm importer in my 3d moddling program, and to be clear, this model is fan made so I did not rip it from another game  :-D
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: Xelane on 2009-08-10 08:24:37
i actually dislike the vincent model alot....i cant understand why others do but its not my place to ask why.
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: Matt2Tees on 2009-08-10 08:55:18
Well to be fair, the vincent model isn't THAT good, its just nice to have a higher res version, especially since most people have high res versions of cloud, Tifa and Aerith
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: halkun on 2009-08-10 09:09:28
Don't worry, all I needed was a plugin for a .glm importer in my 3d moddling program, and to be clear, this model is fan made so I did not rip it from another game  :-D

He is a character from Destiny Warriors, and really has no business being in Final Fantasy. I don't want to be seen as the jerk, but I'm going to lightly start poking threads like this until the new rules are adhered to. I didn't lock the thread, but I will start being a little more annoying about this.
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: Harruzame on 2009-08-10 10:04:54
@Nahatma

Sana makuha mo yung Vincent..Pa share ha!...heheheheh
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: Tekkie.X on 2009-08-10 10:04:46
He's on about the Vincent model that was made for Jedi Academy.

This one.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v663/TEKKIE-X/other%20stuff/75785_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: Kudistos Megistos on 2009-08-10 13:34:41
Don't worry, all I needed was a plugin for a .glm importer in my 3d moddling program, and to be clear, this model is fan made so I did not rip it from another game  :-D

He is a character from Destiny Warriors, and really has no business being in Final Fantasy. I don't want to be seen as the jerk, but I'm going to lightly start poking threads like this until the new rules are adhered to. I didn't lock the thread, but I will start being a little more annoying about this.

Wait, this applies to fan made models designed for other games as well? I was under the impression that it only applied to rips of copyrighted models from other games. If that's the rule, I think you should make it more clear.
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: halkun on 2009-08-10 13:51:43
from rule 3
Quote
Basically it's this; If you made it yourself to help improve the image of an already existing Final Fantasy asset, you get a pass, if you are rehashing work that is not yours, you will be asked to very politely adjust what you are doing.

This falls into "rehashing work not yours". The last time I checked Dynasty Warriors was made by  Omega Force and Koei. I don't care if it's a fan-made model, and trust me, SquareEnix cares even less. Discussions about ripping models from other games, no matter what they are, and putting them into FF7 is no longer allowed.

Like I said, I don't want to be a pain about it. However, that's the breaks. :(

===EDIT===
Vincent model not withsanding. I'm talking about the DW character.
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: obesebear on 2009-08-10 15:44:09
from rule 3
Quote
Basically it's this; If you made it yourself to help improve the image of an already existing Final Fantasy asset, you get a pass, if you are rehashing work that is not yours, you will be asked to very politely adjust what you are doing.

This falls into "rehashing work not yours". The last time I checked Dynasty Warriors was made by  Omega Force and Koei. I don't care if it's a fan-made model, and trust me, SquareEnix cares even less. Discussions about ripping models from other games, no matter what they are, and putting them into FF7 is no longer allowed.

Like I said, I don't want to be a pain about it. However, that's the breaks. :(

===EDIT===
Vincent model not withsanding. I'm talking about the DW character.
This seems pretty cut and dry, but just to clarify...

As long as the model was designed from scratch by an amateur modeler for import into a game, we are safe to discuss / import it.
Any model that was originally designed into a game CAN NOT be discussed about importing

EDIT
Edited for even more clarity :P
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: Kudistos Megistos on 2009-08-10 17:01:00
Wait does that mean the Vincent model is fine but the other one wasn't? (and for the record, I was talking about the Vincent model in my earlier post). I am confus
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: Xelane on 2009-08-10 20:39:14
oh i like that vincent model, i thought u were reffering to the other model i'm more familiar with. looks really bad, and his cape disappears if you look at it from the back.
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: halkun on 2009-08-10 21:26:02
Ask yourself this question:

1) Is this model/background/character/game asset I'm working with originally in Final Fantasy 7?

If yes; then go about what you are doing.
If no; then please adjust what you are doing.

The reason for the rule is this. SquareEnix has something called "goodwill", which is the perceived value of their intellectual property. (Like how much their copyright is worth in terms of cash.) Putting in characters that don't belong like Sonic, or tuning Chocobos into motorcycles, or throwing in Darth Vader for Sephy damages SquareEnix's goodwill. This makes the perceived value of FF7 go down, and costs them real money on their balance sheets! This is why 99.999% of the C&D letters go out. Here's the thing about breaking goodwill. You can have A LEGAL COPY OF THE GAME and simply modifying could cause damage to goodwill. The original FF7 PC did not have an End User License Agreement (EULA), you you think you are in the clear. You are not!

Why do things like Overclocked music mixes get a pass? It's not because they don't charge for the CD. It's because Square perceives that such fan art does not damage their goodwill. Notice copyright doesn't even enter the argument. However, things like Chrono Resurrection DOES damage their goodwill. It makes their original work look like it has less value than someone else's.

Does this mean putting in ANY mod can damage goodwill?  The answer is a wholehearted YES! When I say "SquareEnix has given a pass" that does not mean "SquareEnix has given permission". It Meas SquareEnix, for reason unknown has decided not to start legal proceedings. Maybe they don't know it exists, or maybe they are turning a blind eye. I have no idea.

So Enjoy that you can play FF7 in 1600x1200. Enjoy that you an inject higher quality models in. Just don't push it, because all it takes is one person to screw it up for the rest of us.
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: Xelane on 2009-08-10 21:39:33
i completely disagree with the whole goodwill statement.

not as in "i dont believe you" because i do believe square would pull something like that.

its more that i find the whole thing to be ridiculous.
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: halkun on 2009-08-10 21:53:18
i completely disagree with the whole goodwill statement.

not as in "i dont believe you" because i do believe square would pull something like that.

its more that i find the whole thing to be ridiculous.

It really not a matter if you disagree or not. The fact of the matter is they have used this very accusation to shut down projects in the past.

I don't think I'm making this clear enough...

I was on one of the projects that SquareEnix has shut down!

I kind of know what I'm talking about. I also have a degree in business and took business law for a year. These are not facts I'm just pulling out of a book."Goodwill" is an actual business term (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodwill_(accounting)). It is an intangible asset (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intangible_asset) which means it's lumped in with copyrights, patents, and trademarks. Surprise! It's one of those words that you always see on a C&D. It's an awesome catch-all to shut something down.

You can believe that the moon as made out of green cheese, SquareEnix doesn't care. You belief offers very little in the way of an argument.
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: Tekkie.X on 2009-08-10 21:54:06
Replacing Seph with old Buckethead wouldn't lower the brands value one bit, the FFVII brand is still Squeenix's big money earner, not gonna change any time soon from someone modding the game for fun.
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: polaris_027 on 2009-08-10 22:05:13
oh i like that vincent model, i thought u were reffering to the other model i'm more familiar with. looks really bad, and his cape disappears if you look at it from the back.

http://i444.photobucket.com/albums/qq170/polaris027/vincetnback.jpg

well you'll just have to do something to fix that. :wink:
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: obesebear on 2009-08-10 22:05:53
We can mod most any part of FF7 at this point.  What's to stop SquareEnix from deciding all of our mods look so good that it could infringe on money they could receive if they did a remake?   That is why precautions need to be taken.
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: titeguy3 on 2009-08-10 22:06:55
...The moon's TOTALLY made of cheese! Moreover, that's where you fight the cheese weapon and get the Cheese Armlet and the Cheese sword which always does "CHEESE" damage and the Cheese Armlet makes you always have lucky CHEESE's. And somehow Aerith gets revived!

Haha, I like entertaining myself

[/offtopic]

Halkun, what project were you on that received a C&D? I know it wasn't Q-Gears...
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: halkun on 2009-08-10 22:11:03
Replacing Seph with old Buckethead wouldn't lower the brands value one bit, the FFVII brand is still Squeenix's big money earner, not gonna change any time soon from someone modding the game for fun.

Really tell that the guy who helped break the model format for Chrono Cross and helped make the patch that changed Guile to Magus (Restoring the original story laid out by Radical Dreamers).

I'm interested to see what he thinks... He's right here. His name is halkun and he's a pretty swell guy!
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: Xelane on 2009-08-10 22:52:53
And do you not believe that it's bull sh*t that they stopped you?

i'm not saying "don't listen to them and do it anyway"

what i'm asking is if you believe that it is ethical, fair, or even a good idea, to shut down everything other people try to do to make the game more fun/interesting/funny/insert quality here that makes people want to play the game more?

Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: halkun on 2009-08-10 23:23:53
It's Square's game, they have every right to take their ball home.
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: Satoh on 2009-08-10 23:55:20
It's Square's game, they have every right to take their ball home.

Unfortunately for Square it isn't just one ball... to be quite honest we are the ones holding their balls and they'll have to get them back in order to take them home...

Quite simply modders are like roaches, when the light of law shines on them they scatter and find a new shady place to go about their business... And they're really hard to kill.

The sad truth is that games simply aren't good enough, which is what generally spurs modders into action.

Simply put, Square is waging a pointed, but impossible war. Neither side will ever win... The modders will never make enough impact to beat the corporations and Square will never cause enough attrition to stop the modders.
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: Matt2Tees on 2009-08-11 01:42:56
Halkun, I am familliar with the rules, you seem to be posting them just about everywhere,  :| but if you had read my first post you would have known I was talking about the Vincent Model and not the DW model, plus I haven't edited or ripped this model anyone can download it from the Jedi Knight website, just like you can download APZ's cloud, same thing... :roll:

(http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/4764/vincenty.jpg)

Also please take note of when this topic was made, (before the new rules!) Also note that I didn't make this topic...

Phew... lol
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: Harruzame on 2009-08-11 08:25:03
@Mxster

Ano...Sempai.... Do you have a ready made file to be used ingame? I really want to play that kind of Vincent model To Complete The Experience...Please???

Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: Matt2Tees on 2009-08-11 20:49:58
@Harruzame

I'm working on putting him in game, when I have I'll let you know
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: ultima espio on 2009-08-11 20:58:42
to be quite honest we are the ones holding their balls and they'll have to get them back in order to take them home...

Heheheh....sorry naughty thoughts :-P

Sonic, or tuning Chocobos into motorcycles, or throwing in Darth Vader for Sephy damages SquareEnix's goodwill.

This is why i stopped doing that patch. I stopped it for pretty much this, and that there was no interest.

Halkun, would you mind locking my old sonic topic for me please?
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: halkun on 2009-08-11 23:56:58
locked
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: Harruzame on 2009-08-12 08:47:51
Hontoni?! Arigato Gozaimas-u!

 Please do so PM me if its finished...It will really be awesome to improve Vincent here....as evryone focuses on Fluffy animals and freakish ookamis..

Good Luck!! Ganbare!!
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: SwornEnemy on 2009-08-22 20:33:45
not being funny halkun.. but ur a tit....
u should READ before posting pointless comments........
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: Xelane on 2009-08-22 20:36:40
why'd he say locked if it isnt locked?

and yes locking it seems unfair
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: Kudistos Megistos on 2009-08-22 20:39:02
I think he was saying that ultima espio's sonic thread is locked (at ultima espio's request).

Also, inb4 ,Raziel's vowels go missing :-P
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: Harruzame on 2009-08-23 01:02:27
This gig about the MODS is not something to be taken lightly...I've read earlier about Halkun's involvement with one Game MOD that was shut down. I mean theres no really harm in making the mods as long as it makes the game ( Characters and all ) to be amped a notch. But to make replacements to change the overall look and feel of it is what Squeenix's alarm go off....

And if we're talking about roaches....then let us be Roaches..We can talk like *MOD Roaches* if you will...Let say:

"Hey do you have a ...VinsMOAD..I can use in the VII..I wish to make it Battle and run in the Fields.... Do PM me dawg! Ayt??"

Or something like that...Peace! :-D
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: obesebear on 2009-08-23 02:17:32
Since I don't think it matters anymore how offtopic this has gotten I must say...
This gig about the MODS is not something to be taken lightly...I've read earlier about Halkun's involvement with one Game MOD that was shut down. I mean theres no really harm in making the mods as long as it makes the game ( Characters and all ) to be amped a notch. But to make replacements to change the overall look and feel of it is what Squeenix's alarm go off....

And if we're talking about roaches....then let us be Roaches..We can talk like *MOD Roaches* if you will...Let say:

"Hey do you have a ...VinsMOAD..I can use in the VII..I wish to make it Battle and run in the Fields.... Do PM me dawg! Ayt??"

Or something like that...Peace! :-D
What?
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: sl1982 on 2009-08-23 02:20:42
I think he is talking about hidden through obscurity (ie. if nobody from square can understand what we are talking about they will leave us alone)
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: obesebear on 2009-08-23 02:23:17
I think he is talking about hidden through obscurity (ie. if nobody from square can understand what we are talking about they will leave us alone)
Oh, well in that case I think it is best we don't insult SE's intelligence.  What was the deal with roaches and mod roaches?  I'm still not following that one
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: sl1982 on 2009-08-23 02:24:14
Ya im clueless on that one as well
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: Opine on 2009-08-23 02:38:53
I'm going to take a wild stab in the dark that roach speak, is like calling a joint a roach, so as not to be obvious... I'm basing my guess on an episode of Saved By The Bell.
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: Harruzame on 2009-08-25 09:20:14
Ya see what I mean?...you couldn't even figure what I was talking about yet someone acknowledges that it will be somewhat useful in a sense as a code for exchanging info...regarding MODS so as not to be whacked by SE ( there!....ya already using a code man!! hehehe..)...   

If ya guys wanted you could PM me to make this happen...

...if not then its no prob..at least we could be Sharing special-case-MODDING info ...easily..

hehehe..Just a thought if ya would....PEace!!
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: Matt2Tees on 2009-09-07 20:24:39
Ok, sorry its taken a while, but I sort of gave up and then recently tryed again and have finally put Vincent in game  :wink:
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: titeguy3 on 2009-09-07 20:29:59
Ya see what I mean?...you couldn't even figure what I was talking about yet someone acknowledges that it will be somewhat useful in a sense as a code for exchanging info...regarding MODS so as not to be whacked by SE ( there!....ya already using a code man!! hehehe..)...  

If ya guys wanted you could PM me to make this happen...

...if not then its no prob..at least we could be Sharing special-case-MODDING info ...easily..

hehehe..Just a thought if ya would....PEace!!

Y Hrz wz wndrn hw t gt dt vnc m'l tt jd kn's nt m pl-pl, rst! Dm bldclts ls b kpn' m slf frm dt rs tt d kh dn'ch kn? :ll:
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: Harruzame on 2009-09-08 05:48:22
@tit3guy


Thats being Jamaican man, doncha kno?

 :lol:

Glad you could peek in my mind..Ya dig?
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: halkun on 2009-09-08 07:09:58
Ya see what I mean?...you couldn't even figure what I was talking about yet someone acknowledges that it will be somewhat useful in a sense as a code for exchanging info...regarding MODS so as not to be whacked by SE ( there!....ya already using a code man!! hehehe..)...  

If ya guys wanted you could PM me to make this happen...

...if not then its no prob..at least we could be Sharing special-case-MODDING info ...easily..

hehehe..Just a thought if ya would....PEace!!

Y Hrz wz wndrn hw t gt dt vnc m'l tt jd kn's nt m pl-pl, rst! Dm bldclts ls b kpn' m slf frm dt rs tt d kh dn'ch kn? :ll:

Don't write gibberish.
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: Harruzame on 2009-09-08 08:25:20
Whoops..  :-o

See ya later!...
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: Xelane on 2009-09-08 20:32:39
Harruzame ffs stop speaking gibberish

this is getting rediculous that's like the 5th time i have seen you spouting what looks like nonsense. my initial reaction was that you were speaking al-bhed again but that looks like gibberesh even with that in mind
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: Kudistos Megistos on 2009-09-08 20:36:25
Harruzame ffs stop speaking gibberish

this is getting rediculous that's like the 5th time i have seen you spouting what looks like nonsense. my initial reaction was that you were speaking al-bhed again but that looks like gibberesh even with that in mind

Your criticisms would hold more weight if your own spelling, grammar and punctuation weren't so bad.
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: Xelane on 2009-09-08 20:40:00
get over it?

i spelled gibberish and ridiculous wrong sue me.

"ZOMG let's make a big deal out of spelling 2 words slightly wrong!"

"no way -2- words SLIGHTLY wrong!?"

"Monster!"

"i know right?"

Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: Kudistos Megistos on 2009-09-08 20:42:43
So, it's OK for you to criticise the way other people write, but not for anyone else to criticise the way you write? :lol:
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: Xelane on 2009-09-08 20:44:55
so completel gibberish (as in: jehnoanjdogboasebgt)

is comparable to getting the vowels wrong in two words? (as in: gibberesh)

seriously that's hardly a case in the opposing favor, and you're missing the point all together.

or is it altogether? idk, which one is gonna make you get on my case about it?
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: sl1982 on 2009-09-08 20:49:47
I have to agree with xelane, more then half of harruzame's post have nothing to do with whatever topic he is posting in. But as this is off topic itself it should be continued elsewhere
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: Kudistos Megistos on 2009-09-08 20:51:35
so completel gibberish (as in: jehnoanjdogboasebgt)

is comparable to getting the vowels wrong in two words? (as in: gibberesh)

seriously that's hardly a case in the opposing favor, and you're missing the point all together.

or is it altogether? idk, which one is gonna make you get on my case about it?

I can't understand what you just said, so I'll just say these two things:

1. If you are going to criticise the way someone else writes, try to avoid at least the kind of glaring errors that a spell-check would tell you about.

2. I suggest to take the advice you gave to me in your previous post and "get over it". Your hilarious overreaction to being corrected on the Internet is even worse than your failure to practise what you preach, and makes you seem quite insecure. Please move on and stop whining, unless you want to be our lolcow for a while. This thread needs to get back on topic.

EDIT: oops, nearly forgot my own advice there :-P
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: Xelane on 2009-09-08 20:59:21
I'll admit that I'm getting more offensive than usual. I got irritated at the fact that Kudos decided to call my grammar bad simply because i messed up the vowels in 2 words.

But....I think I'll just let it go even though it's an annoying thought

permit me to just ask why 2 slight vowel mispronunciations are enough to say that my spelling and grammar was bad? they're 2 words.

Now I can see him being justified if I had spelled about 5+ easy words wrong, but that wasn't the case. In this case it was just an E where an I was supposed to be.

to the newer post: how can you not understand normal English? I accidentally add an "l" to the word complete and suddenly you can't read it

For someone who plays the mediator in most of the conflicts here, you really suck at avoiding conflict. I would say that you were practically trying to engage me into a conflict but you are fully bent on doing just that from your previous post.

and don't play the psychoanalysis game because that just adds fire to the flame, something a mediator should want to AVOID rather than go out of his way to achieve
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: Matt2Tees on 2009-09-08 21:01:24
Kudistos Megistos, Xelane  :?

Ignore each other for a while eh?
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: Kudistos Megistos on 2009-09-08 21:09:07
But....I think i'll just let it go even though it's an annoying thought

The rest of your post makes me think that you're not letting it go. Meh, at least I'll have that lolcow now.

permit me to just ask why 2 slight vowel mispronounciations are enough to say that my spelling and grammar was bad? they're 2 words.

First of all, lrn2 capitalisation.

Secondly, "mispronunciation"? Wow, I didn't know you were saying what you posted out loud :-D

Do you use some kind of voice recognition software to help you type, or are you one of those people that screams at their computer when they get angry at someone OL?

to the newer post: how can you not understand normal english? I accidently add an "l" to the word complete and suddenly you can't read it

I can understand normal English quite well. I can't, however, understand your English. It's become as bad as Harruzame's and even funnier (albeit in a different way), and he has the excuses of not being serious and not being a native speaker.

BTW, not all of the words you've been using recently mean what you seem to think they mean.

EDIT:

Kudistos Megistos, Xelane  :?

Ignore each other for a while eh?

NEVER!

No, this is too funny to let go :-D
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: Xelane on 2009-09-08 21:13:47
Case in point

I never knew that kudis was such an ass

or that he couldn't read english if you added a letter where it shouldn't be

meh, arrogant people

also "mispronounciations" is what passed in the spell checker
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: sl1982 on 2009-09-08 21:18:31
There is an off topic forum for a reason. Use it.
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: Xelane on 2009-09-08 21:21:27
i'd probably end up feeding the troll more if i went ahead and did that.

Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: sl1982 on 2009-09-08 21:22:41
i'd probably end up feeding the troll more if i went ahead and did that.



Then don't use it. But don't continue here.
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: Kudistos Megistos on 2009-09-08 21:22:57
Case in point

I never knew that kudis was such an ass

Now you do :-D

And I never knew you were so over-sensitive. We're all learning things tonight, aren't we :-P

or that he couldn't read english if you added a letter where it shouldn't be

I can read it, I just find it amusing. However, I do have trouble understanding you when you use "misprounciations" to mean "misspellings". I think you should look up the word "pronounce" in a dictionary. In fact, I think you should look up every word you think of using, since quite a lot of the things you write seem a little odd. BTW, "misprounciations" was underlined by my spell-checker. Maybe it's another UK vs US issue?

meh, arrogant people

Meh, insecure people.

BTW, if you must continue this, please post in "Completely Unrelated". I already feel bad for posting so much off-topic stuff in this thread. I know you will continue it, because you can't help but respond to anyone who points out anything you do wrong. It's what makes you a good lolcow.

EDIT:

i'd probably end up feeding the troll more if i went ahead and did that.

 :lol:
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: obesebear on 2009-09-08 21:28:34
This thread needs to get back on topic.

Actually, it probably needs to be locked since the original topic is now against the rules.  Also, in the case that halkun does decide to lock it, please, no "ATTN: Xelane" or "ATTN: Kudistos" threads  :-)


PREEMPTIVE EDIT:  Warning - while you were typing 5 new replies have been posted. You may wish to review your post.
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: Xelane on 2009-09-08 21:31:12
i think it is a UK vs. US deal with that specific word. like color vs. colour.

BTW you actually got me on the "pronounce=/= spelling" I'm flustered. It's not that I'm overly sensitive, it's that for some reason unknown to me, I'm in a bad mood.

but from my point of view: misspelling gibberish (to gibberesh) and ridiculous (rediculous) didn't justify being criticized so harshly like that.

Also: you were one of the last few people that I would expect to say something like that because I felt that you were pretty laid back

Edit: obeasebear i'm actually trying to get htis resolved without needing to make a thread like that
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: Kudistos Megistos on 2009-09-08 21:37:23
This thread needs to get back on topic.

Actually, it probably needs to be locked since the original topic is now against the rules.  

That's probably right.

Also, in the case that halkun does decide to lock it, please, no "ATTN: Xelane" or "ATTN: Kudistos" threads  :-)

What, like this (http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=7560)? :-D (edited for lulzier thread)

but from my point of view: misspelling gibberish (to gibberesh) and ridiculous (rediculous) didn't justify being criticized so harshly like that.

I didn't criticise you harshly for that. I criticised you very mildly for doing that when criticising someone else's writing. Maybe you thought it was harsh because you're so sensitive? :-P

I criticised you harshly for being so butthurt about it. I really didn't expect you to take it so badly.


Edit: obeasebear i'm actually trying to get htis resolved without needing to make a thread like that

No, if you wanted it to be resolved you wouldn't post at all. I think that what you mean by "resolving" this is "Xelane getting the last word in". :-D
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: Xelane on 2009-09-08 21:47:17
Actually forget it.

I have no idea why I bother trying to make this end positively when you seem so hell bent on doing the exact opposite

At least i tried
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: Kudistos Megistos on 2009-09-08 21:56:08
I was wondering when you were going to finish typing that :lol:

Wow I look for an oppourtunity to end this on good terms with kudis and he manages to turn right around and continue

No, you weren't :roll:

And please for the love of god don't refer to anything I have said here as nonsense because unlike what he was typing, My words had some kind of meaning attached to them

Yes, but the meaning you attached to them was very different from the meaning everyone else attaches to them :-D

that you could see when you read them unlike his posts.

No. See above :lol:

"I criticised you harshly for being so butthurt about it. I really didn't expect you to take it so badly."
We don't all just say "meh whatever", some people actually get engaged into a conversation.

Yes, they do. Why can't you be one of those people :?

BTW, "bawwwwwwww! He criticised me! What an ass" is not conversation :-D

Reguarding: "No, if you wanted it to be resolved you wouldn't post at all."

It looks like you're joking, but in case you're being serious: I don't thing that letting a conversation end on a bad note mends the relationship between the two people

No, but it's better than ending it on a really bad note, something that becomes increasingly likely as a fight goes on.

BTW, I missed this bit earlier :roll:

For someone who plays the mediator in most of the conflicts here, you really suck at avoiding conflict.

The problem there is that you're assuming I want to avoid conflict. :lol:

I would say that you were practically trying to engage me into a conflict but you are fully bent on doing just that from your previous post.

What brilliant powers of deduction! :-D

and don't play the psychoanalysis game because that just adds fire to the flame

It's not a game; I'm very serious. If you react so badly to having your spelling corrected, you must be very insecure. I think you should talk to someone.

EDIT:

Actually forget it.

I have no idea why I bother trying to make this end positively when you seem so hell bent on doing the exact opposite

At least i tried

Good thing I quoted you before you baleeted that post :-P

And you weren't trying. By continuing to call me unreasonable, you keeping the argument going. Either you're very naive or very dishonest.
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: Xelane on 2009-09-08 22:07:19
"By continuing to call me unreasonable, you keeping the argument going"

I don't see anything in my last post (the one that I had edited) that called you unreasonable at all

And i'm neither but thanks for trying to label me anyway
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: Kudistos Megistos on 2009-09-08 22:13:38
"By continuing to call me unreasonable, you keeping the argument going"

I don't see anything in my last post (the one that I had edited) that called you unreasonable at all

And i'm neither but thanks for trying to label me anyway

Then you should look harder. :-D

Also, bear in mind that much communication is unspoken. When you write something, people will infer that you mean not only the literal meaning of your words, but anything that would logically follow from it.

EDIT:

And i'm neither but thanks for trying to label me anyway

You are one of them. Either you are naively unaware that you keep saying things that will keep the argument going, or you're not and you want to keep it going.
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: Xelane on 2009-09-08 22:15:28
Well at least that post wasn't  the same as your other ones  :|
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: Kudistos Megistos on 2009-09-08 22:21:40
Well at least that post wasn't  the same as your other ones  :|

I was going to ask you what you thought my other ones were like, but meh. This isn't fun any more.
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: Kudistos Megistos on 2009-09-08 22:34:10
Thanks for posting your conversation, it made me giggle a bit. :-D

Glad to help! There are related lulz here (http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=7560) :lol:

Let's go back on topic...

Meh, this thread is kind of off-topic anyway. It's about ripping models from other games...
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: drfeelgud88 on 2009-09-08 22:35:23
Ok, I think Jari hacked Kudistos Megistos's account or something, lol!
Thanks for posting your conversation, it made me giggle a bit. :-D
Let's go back on topic...
True that! Make a "ATTN: Dumbass" thread or something or just "let it go." Yeah, I like the second option better don't you?  :-D
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: Kudistos Megistos on 2009-09-08 22:37:10
Ok, I think Jari hacked Kudistos Megistos's account or something, lol!

Yeah, I can see why you'd think that :-D
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: drfeelgud88 on 2009-09-08 22:39:40
Speaking of which... Where is he? I haven't heard from that guy for quite a while now.
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: Xelane on 2009-09-08 22:40:43
This is probably a good example of how twisted alot of people are. A good amount of the people here draw enjoyment from making or watching people being miserable.

Tis a sad day

That isn't a sarcastic remark either. i really do think it's a pity that so many people here like to pick on others.

in this case it's "let's all pile on one guy"

kudis is the worst one here though: bringing up old posts of me being picked on by other people from awhile ago
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: Kudistos Megistos on 2009-09-08 22:44:03
This is probably a good example of how twisted alot of people are. A good amount of the people here draw enjoyment from making or watching people being miserable.

And you make it very easy for them. I think you should learn from some of the things that happened on these forums a few months ago.

kudis is the worst one here though: bringing up old posts of me being picked on by other people from awhile ago

I just thought it was funny...  :roll:

Anyway, like I said, this fight is getting boring and I'm tired of replying to it.
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: Xelane on 2009-09-08 22:48:19
It was actually a few years ago.

As for learning from past mistakes, the only mistakes I have made were having certain views and opinions

and i'm not surprised that you would find that funny
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: Kudistos Megistos on 2009-09-08 22:50:02
It was actually a few years ago.

As for learning from past mistakes, the only mistakes I have made were having certain views and opinions

I was talking about a different incident on these forums that was a few months ago; I sure you can guess what it was :wink:

Anyway, I keep saying that this argument is boring me *hint hint*
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: Xelane on 2009-09-08 22:53:22
I couldn't care less kudis
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: Kudistos Megistos on 2009-09-08 22:54:56
I couldn't care less kudis

OK, if you want to ignore my hints and keep the argument going...

BTW, I apologise to all the other people reading this; apparently I'm feeling immature tonight. :roll:
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: Xelane on 2009-09-08 22:58:19
No this whole ordeal is stopping right here.

Do I wish that it ended better? Absolutely

Did that happen? unfortunately not

You can't win them all, even if winning in this case was just coming to an understanding
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: Kudistos Megistos on 2009-09-08 23:00:19
No this whole ordeal is stopping right here.

I was hoping you'd say that.

Once again, I apologise to my loyal followers; it must be disconcerting to see your king getting into silly internet arguments like this :-D
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: Xelane on 2009-09-08 23:03:39
Right, but there is one thing.

Was there any way that I could have made this whole ordeal end on a good note? I feel like every conversation between us from now on will be stained with this thread.

Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: Kudistos Megistos on 2009-09-08 23:05:06
Right, but there is one thing.

Was there any way that I could have made this whole ordeal end on a good note?

Meh, dunno :roll:

I feel like every conversation between us from now on will be stained with this thread.

Doesn't have to be. I don't have any hard feelings :-P
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: drfeelgud88 on 2009-09-08 23:07:50
Right, but there is one thing.

Was there any way that I could have made this whole ordeal end on a good note?

Meh, dunno :roll:

I feel like every conversation between us from now on will be stained with this thread.

Doesn't have to be. I don't have any hard feelings :-P
Wow. That is a good man right there. No hard feelings, that is 'manning' up. Cool, so it's settled then. There shall be no more arguing from this point on!  :-)
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: Xelane on 2009-09-08 23:08:38
feelgud, shut it

you're not helping in any way

he wouldn't have hard feelings because he wasnt in the place i was -.-
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: Matt2Tees on 2009-09-08 23:09:35
Well that was a strange way to boost your posts  :-D
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: Xelane on 2009-09-08 23:09:59
I actually didn't think of that but yea it is

(screw punctuation)
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: Kudistos Megistos on 2009-09-08 23:10:45
feelgud, shut it

you're not helping in any way

he wouldn't have hard feelings because he wasnt in the place i was -.-

Just when I thought this was over, you have to start it again...

Why would you post that? If you hadn't, everything would be over. But you did, so it will start up again :roll:

facepalm.jpg
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: drfeelgud88 on 2009-09-08 23:12:48
Well that was a strange way to boost your posts  :-D
Sorry, guilty, lol. AND...
feelgud, shut it

you're not helping in any way

he wouldn't have hard feelings because he wasnt in the place i was -.-
Excellent choice of words. We are all sorry that you were in a bad place or in a bad mood. I'll forget about my day and what I have been through this past week and focus on yours.  :-D
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: Kudistos Megistos on 2009-09-08 23:14:47
he wouldn't have hard feelings because he wasnt in the place i was -.-
Where are you now?  :-o :?

He's in your base, killin' your d00ds!
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: Xelane on 2009-09-08 23:15:11
I meant that kudis was more of an instigator in this...."debate"

Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: Kudistos Megistos on 2009-09-08 23:19:27
I meant that kudis was more of an instigator in this...."debate"

You were the one to bring up writing style, and you were the one to restart it after you said

No this whole ordeal is stopping right here
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: halkun on 2009-09-09 01:44:15
People caught artificially inflating their postcounts will result in postcounts being taken away.
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: Kudistos Megistos on 2009-09-09 01:54:23
People caught artificially inflating their postcounts will result in postcounts being taken away.

I don't think anyone was doing that. It was more a case of neither party wanting to end the argument; raising post counts was just a side-effect of this. :roll:

And I feel that I must take this opportunity to apologise again; my behaviour ITT has hardly been constructive. :|
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: drfeelgud88 on 2009-09-09 03:44:13
People caught artificially inflating their postcounts will result in postcounts being taken away.

I don't think anyone was doing that. It was more a case of neither party wanting to end the argument; raising post counts was just a side-effect of this. :roll:

And I feel that I must take this opportunity to apologise again; my behaviour ITT has hardly been constructive. :|
If someone wanted to raise their post counts, they wouldn't just made a post only saying "Hi" or something. But rather than that, everyone was trying to maintain peace. We wouldn't want another... Well, you know what I mean.
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: titeguy3 on 2009-09-09 05:39:56
Warning: While you were away from Qhimm, 3 pages of posts were created.

There's no point in a thread whose topic is against the rules to discuss. This should either be moved to the off-topic forums or locked, since on-topic posting isn't allowed anymore in this case.
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: sl1982 on 2009-09-09 05:46:01
Warning: While you were away from Qhimm, 3 pages of posts were created.

There's no point in a thread whose topic is against the rules to discuss. This should either be moved to the off-topic forums or locked, since on-topic posting isn't allowed anymore in this case.

I agree, but since halkun has posted in this thread after the shit hit the fan i am going to assume that he is going to leave it open
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: Harruzame on 2009-09-09 07:00:01
Oh my... my own gibberish got two people to argue...  :|

I'm the one who should be ashamed... :cry:


@Xelane

Sorry for making your head hurt from my..incomplete and utterly.. STUPID pronounciation of the English language.

@Sir KM

It's your day back there huh?....

I know this will sound far fetched...but I feel like you defended me there. So thanks a bunch...

If this raises eyebrow to anyone, again, this is just me being DEAD serious...

END

@Hermoor

Hello Aniki! :-D

@titeguy
If somehow you're disemvoweled by this..blame it on meh.  :lol:

ADD:

OK lets get back to the Destiny Warrior Style topic..Umm...what did I miss?
Title: Re: Dynasty Warriors Style :-)
Post by: Harruzame on 2009-09-09 07:06:15
Ahh....I really love that guy...  :lol: