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FFVII HIGH QUALITY CG COLLECTION
This is a big one. Square didn't save any of the production materials for FF7, so all re-releases including the PC version have been at the PS1's native resolution of 320 X 224
However......at the time of the game's release, Toshiba was preparing the world's first computer DVD drive and needed something to show it off. Square printed 500 copies of a DVD containing every cinema scene in FF7. These are 30 frames a second at 720 X 540 -- a vast improvement
The biggest boon to this find is finally being able to read the words on Jenova's helmet. As you can see (http://www.platypuscomix.net/interactive/canthaveit3-2.jpg), it's not something they meant for us to read. Unless Jenova really did come from Hong Kong
As you might have anticipated, this disc isn't cheap
eBay Price: $1,499.95
More comparison screens:
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Loveless Square
Shinra Motorcycle Room
Gold Saucer
resource: http://www.platypuscomix.net/interactive/thingsyoucanteverhave3.html (http://www.platypuscomix.net/interactive/thingsyoucanteverhave3.html)
as it seems it is still findable at fleebay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Final-Fantasy-VII-High-Quality-CG-Collection-DVD-1997-7-/400218234777)...
Unfortunately my wallet doesn't go that deep, but I would love to get my hands on that object...
Does anybody here by any chance has such a disc..?
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Wow, that would be awesome for all of those projects!
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Hopefully he will accept my deal. Can't see it, but never know ;) I was hoping kinda that these wouldnt surface so I wouldnt have to redo them again, but if I get them, I will redo them.
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Hopefully he will accept my deal. Can't see it, but never know ;) ....
you make me curious.... what deal? (you may PM me about that ;D )
on a side note, is there anybody good in japanese...??
might have found something, but I'm not sure.....yet
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See luksy. PM him :) or Glitterberri or Gemini
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thats really awesome now i wish i had 1500 to spend on it.
on a side note, is there anybody good in japanese...??
might have found something, but I'm not sure.....yet
asa does the black chocobo,makou reactor and hyne japanese translations. perhaps he can help you seams to be pretty active on the forum
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How the hell are we just finding out about this now?
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How the hell are we just finding out about this now?
Because I spent 1 month slaving over FMV.
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How the hell are we just finding out about this now?
I know, I find it very strange that there were 500 copies of this floating about and it's never been documented or mentioned anywhere. The sheer volume of FFVII freaks on this forum (myself included) and no one had a clue as far as we know. Seems a bit odd!
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Wow, we need this. I'm of the belief it should be openly distributed for the betterment of mankind
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I agree. Maybe we should collectively bid to have him rip it for us! Or whoever buys it lol.
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Holy crud I am tempted beyond belief. Even if I did get it though for that much I'd turn into a Gullum (however spelled, LOTR). And even then what would I get, since all I'd want to do is spread the resource to anyone that wants to high definition the game.......Between this Cd, saving, and a new gaming computer is where my xmas money is in a struggle. I'd happily buy it if other members would paypal donate some of the money back over time. I could by it in the next couple of days if anyone is interested in splitting the cost at least in thirds (so about $500 apiece)
EDIT: Dearlord, if I had the money I'd be buying up half of that things you cant ever have list. Especially imagine if I got hold of that playstation development kit for 65,0000$. Worth a few cars, but I would buy it. Also the light up nintendo sign and Final Fantasy Orb. 188 Sealed PS1 Games (only retro system I have and on it's last leg of having the power cable being held at a certain angle to make it play) DEAR LORD THE CHRONO CROSS DESK CLOCK!!! I WANT!!! YESS!! I'm ordering it! $25
Also Nintendo German Beer mug! Haha!
90's LARA CROFT MANNEQUIN
Life sized LINK!!!
...I need a winning lottery ticket and a bigger geek pad.
...Now kicking myself in the balls for cutting a promotional game box for Starcraft II into poster size...could've sold that in 10 years... maybe.
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Nowhere in the original listing does it say that it contains *all* the FMVs.. the table of contents lists 18 clips when in fact there are more than 100 total.
You would think Square would have bullied someone into sending them a copy for the PC version if it was actually useful.
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Nowhere in the original listing does it say that it contains *all* the FMVs.. the table of contents lists 18 clips when in fact there are more than 100 total.
Yeah, 14 minutes of clips just doesn't sound right. Damn! I mean, having those 18 clips would be awsome. But not for $1500. So that is off my list to buy.
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There are no information about FFVII HIGH QUALITY CG COLLECTION on Japanese webesite.
Only this page found: http://www.akaokoichi.jp/DIARY/9705/970530.htm
It is a bonus DVD of Toshiba PC "Vision Connect" Windows95 featuring DVD player + TV, PC price 248,000yen. 248,000yen is about 3200 U.S. Dollar.
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Here's some old press releases
http://www.toshiba.co.jp/about/press/1997_10/pr_j2701.htm
http://www.toshiba.co.jp/about/press/1997_05/pr_j1201.htm
http://www.toshiba.co.jp/about/press/1997_05/pr1201.htm
250,000 yen in 1998 was around $1,800, adjusted for inflation means around $2,400 in today's money, according to wikipedia the average pc price was under $1,000 in 1998, so $1,800 for a PC with one of the first DVD drives doesn't seem like so bad of a deal all in all, I'm guessing a lot more than 500 were produced.
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Nowhere in the original listing does it say that it contains *all* the FMVs.. the table of contents lists 18 clips when in fact there are more than 100 total.
You would think Square would have bullied someone into sending them a copy for the PC version if it was actually useful.
Nor, for that matter, does the listing explicitly say they're full FMVs. And reading the listings, it looks like most of the movies are pretty trivial - things like the Gold Saucer tram ride, or the opening Midgar shot.
If we wanted high quality videos, we'd have to either have to spend a lot of time on post-processing tricks (which are limited in scope), or redo the vids from scratch (which would be... well, difficult).
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If they are full (and I think they are by time), some of those are good. The weapon ones are my favourite and the sephiroth jenova sequence is important (the helmet is shown and so that FMV must have got to the end).
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I still think it is quite funny that even after years of hundreds of fans research, we still managed to discover something new.
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Wow.... I'd love to own that. I wonder if there's any way we'd get some direct rips....
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If I can get the dvd, I can extract it in perfect quality, in fact I can extract it so there is no loss and it remains mpeg2. But I am guessing it would need a new encode anyway if I was updating it to 1280*896
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omgg now we find this!?? Why don't all of us chip in ;D
Hope we can get this somehow that would be awesome!
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How the hell are we just finding out about this now?
omgg now we find this!??
sorry I was just looking for an ac adapter for my recently acquired psone... and I stunbled upon this, as much I want to have a look at this, I wondered if it was a known dvd, and if someone has it....
(PM me if you do and don't want to say anything in public about it)
because I'm always looking for detailed references for a rebuild...
(Oh I did also found a huge collection of final fantasy stuff somewhere, pretty much any game ever released in original packaging plus hardware... for a mere $ 14.900 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/200605325745)
I'm not interested in that by the way ;D
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omgg now we find this!?? Why don't all of us chip in ;D
Hope we can get this somehow that would be awesome!
As I said, if two other people either chip in $500 with me, or more people chip in, I would buy it and rip it. But I don't think that'll happen with it being audit season and all.
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Haha wow, I can't believe this exists, and that almost nobody knows about it.
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This would be fantastic to have.
I can't believe no one seemed to know about this until now!
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I am in contact with the guy on ebay, I can only hope he allows my compromise and offer :) If not, we are buggered and the new FMV will remain where they are.
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Curious what the compromise is...
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He probably just wants the guy to make a rip for him.
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Or loan it, of course.
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Perhaps we should do a fundraiser?
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Word grabs my ear that it is being bought, and no... not by me, I am not that rich :evil:
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Word grabs my ear that it is being bought, and no... not by me, I am not that rich :evil:
I knew one of you chaps would be insane enough to get it, haha :)
Legends!
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I'l buy it for you guys once i win the lottery ;)
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I am the buyer. I will post a review on thelifestream.net some time after I have received the DVD.
Edits: Thanks for making this item known to us.
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I just went to thelifestream.net. They're selling a PSX copy of VII for $299.99 Really? You can get a freakin new console for that price. So glad I still have my PSX copy. Exciting news about the DVD though :roll:
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Not surprising, the folks on that forum are generally bonkers. 8)
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It says in returns: " 7 days money back, buyer pays return shipping" so if someone could buy it then quickly rip it and send it back for a full refund?! ::)
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It says in returns: " 7 days money back, buyer pays return shipping" so if someone could buy it then quickly rip it and send it back for a full refund?! ::)
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If I can have my way, the TLS store will be removed. As the site's new Content Coordinator, it is my role to look at these things. I'll see what agreements I can reach with the other site staff.
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It says in returns: " 7 days money back, buyer pays return shipping" so if someone could buy it then quickly rip it and send it back for a full refund?! ::)
Scan, rip, return ;)
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Scan, rip, return ;)
mhmm :evil:
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http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151185492260004&set=a.10150635955050004.678994.405043335003&type=1&theater
This is completely offtopic... but I am banned from offtopic and this has to be seen! ;D ;D ;D
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actually I am banned from everywhere and I don't care! haha :-D
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http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151185492260004&set=a.10150635955050004.678994.405043335003&type=1&theater
This is completely offtopic... but I am banned from offtopic and this has to be seen! ;D ;D ;D
LOL. Actually thought that was her d*** XD
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His arm becomes her belly, its a 1/100000000 chance! I love it!
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Man, I can't believe something like this exists. Square are a bunch of meanies for keeping this dedicated community in the dark.
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Out there are the full original masters... and square can't be arsed releasing them all. Or... they lost em.
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I'm guessing the latter from what I've heard of their troubles with the PC release. It sounds like most of the assets were lost. I guess it's possible that some unfinished, pre-processed versions exist on some 15-year old backup tape somewhere in Square's storage units, but that doesn't mean we're going to see them.
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And now I summon Phoenix! *Wuuushh*!!! Topic revived. :-P
Someone has uploaded the 'HighRes-DVD Movies' on youtube. Not sure if they are such a big improvement. :|
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLKRZrzcZOFU5EgBycX61mkSRSgsrYOW2l
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They look better than the originals to me... uploaded in 2012. How did we miss this, c'mon guys lol
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I actually found and bought that DVD a couple of months back for $50, and yeah it's really not that big of a deal, not to mention the videos seem to have been captured on tape - strong reds bleed out and there's a little interference here and there, like the kind you used to see on tapes. Still better than the originals but there's so much missing.
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What a find. These aren't in great shape, but they have a lot of potential for cleaning up.
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Yeah, it's a bit ridiculous that they are interlaced too... I mean they are better than the originals, but that ain't saying much. The other issue is that because of the ones missing, any project that uses the higher res ones will have a mismatch. Some in higher res, some in low.
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And now I summon Phoenix! *Wuuushh*!!! Topic revived. :-P
Someone has uploaded the 'HighRes-DVD Movies' on youtube. Not sure if they are such a big improvement. :|
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLKRZrzcZOFU5EgBycX61mkSRSgsrYOW2l
I see a decent improvement there actually.
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In fact they were already reviewed and 'released' by Shademp on the lifestream in better quality compared to the UTube ones.
Review here (http://thelifestream.net/review-the-toshiba-ffvii-dvd/) <--Note:external link.
I've been using the sources for reference, because there's a lot more detail in those CG's. :-)
I was under NDA untill they were released
Even the original PSX movies do have a lot more detail compared to the so called upscaled SE releases.
This (http://thelifestream.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/meteosky.mpg) is what I'm curently using for Junbin3...
Details...
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5318/14587849193_7b472eb135_o.png) (https://flic.kr/p/oe5xkg)
MeteoSky-002
(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2940/14564381101_629ce673ec_o.png) (https://flic.kr/p/oc1g5Z)Junbin3-wip
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now the circle is closed again :-)
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I've just had a good look at them, and some may be useful to mod with. But it's still a disappointment, and there is an annoying green tint.
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Just having a quick squiz at them, it seems like it might give more room for improvement with some filters and upscaling? Not sure...