Author Topic: FFVII: Shinra Archaeology Cut (Read 23634 times)

Greenhero · « **Reply #50 on:** 2025-01-08 20:40:21 »

Quote from: Thestrifeisrife on 2024-12-30 21:20:12

Latest update fixes this. ESUI has a setting for a wider menu window, but it's off by default. In the new update I made SACforce that option to be on while SAC is active.

Awesome, thank you so much!

Thestrifeisrife · « **Reply #51 on:** 2025-01-26 18:21:10 »

With the release of htp314's new "Advanced Facial Animation Fix" mod for Ninostyle models, you can now use Ninostyle with SAC's Advanced facial animation feature without issue. No more blinking heads. Please enjoy a more immersive experience.

sekuza009 · « **Reply #52 on:** 2025-01-27 01:13:44 »

I appreciate you guys fixing the controller icons, and I can confirm it does seem to work: https://i.imgur.com/XUgEI5g.png

But I'm noticing when I have the mod active and ESUI at the same time the To Next Level exp bar becomes misspelled: https://i.imgur.com/pwsZS8W.png

I don't think my load order has any issues because it seems like if I move the mod above ESUI it becomes fixed, but this is what it looks like currently: https://i.imgur.com/TEvHL5i.png. Let me know if there's something I can fix on my end or if it's something that needs to be fixed on this mods or ESUI's side though. Thanks for everything you guys do!

Thestrifeisrife · « **Reply #53 on:** 2025-01-30 11:44:24 »

Quote from: sekuza009 on 2025-01-27 01:13:44

I appreciate you guys fixing the controller icons, and I can confirm it does seem to work: https://i.imgur.com/XUgEI5g.png

But I'm noticing when I have the mod active and ESUI at the same time the To Next Level exp bar becomes misspelled: https://i.imgur.com/pwsZS8W.png

I don't think my load order has any issues because it seems like if I move the mod above ESUI it becomes fixed, but this is what it looks like currently: https://i.imgur.com/TEvHL5i.png. Let me know if there's something I can fix on my end or if it's something that needs to be fixed on this mods or ESUI's side though. Thanks for everything you guys do!

You're not the first person to bring this up, but I still don't know what causes it.

Should you have SYW Unified UI and ESUI active at the same time?

Gazibaldi · « **Reply #54 on:** 2025-01-30 12:47:49 »

Quote from: Thestrifeisrife on 2025-01-26 18:21:10

With the release of htp314's new "Advanced Facial Animation Fix" mod for Ninostyle models, you can now use Ninostyle with SAC's Advanced facial animation feature without issue. No more blinking heads. Please enjoy a more immersive experience.

I get the following when I try to install htp314's mod:

13:57:43|INFO|AppUI.ViewModels.MainWindowViewModel|Starting download using URL: https://docs.google.com/uc?id=1OWI3izRUHURyV1nVU04BgF-uRyTJ-hVs&export=download
13:57:45|INFO|AppUI.ViewModels.MainWindowViewModel|Error installing Advanced Facial Animation Fix - The mod is queued for install.
13:57:45|ERROR|AppUI.ViewModels.MainWindowViewModel|System.InvalidOperationException: Cannot determine compressed stream type. Supported Archive Formats: Zip, Rar, 7Zip, GZip, Tar

EDIT: Ended up just downloading it manually from the googledrive and popping it in the mod folder and restarting 7th Heaven. It seems to have an issue with he Soilder 1st Ninostyle mod though. Never mind.

Thestrifeisrife · « **Reply #55 on:** 2025-01-31 17:14:25 »

Quote from: Gazibaldi on 2025-01-30 12:47:49

EDIT: Ended up just downloading it manually from the googledrive and popping it in the mod folder and restarting 7th Heaven. It seems to have an issue with he Soilder 1st Ninostyle mod though. Never mind.

Sooner or later all of these Ninostyle supplement mods are going to be folded into the main mod so this is less of a pain in the ass for everyone. When that happens it'll work with that Cloud model too. Till then though yeah it doesn't work with that.

sekuza009 · « **Reply #56 on:** 2025-02-02 03:52:34 »

Quote from: Thestrifeisrife on 2025-01-30 11:44:24

You're not the first person to bring this up, but I still don't know what causes it.

Should you have SYW Unified UI and ESUI active at the same time?

I believe it's compatible, the only thing it changes is the background elements. I don't have the HD fonts enabled. Like I said the thing I've noticed is moving Shinra Archaeology Cut on top fixes it but breaks other icons. Seems like ESUI expects it to say Next Level and inserts the N there.

Thestrifeisrife · « **Reply #57 on:** 2025-02-03 14:20:13 »

Quote from: sekuza009 on 2025-02-02 03:52:34

I believe it's compatible, the only thing it changes is the background elements. I don't have the HD fonts enabled. Like I said the thing I've noticed is moving Shinra Archaeology Cut on top fixes it but breaks other icons. Seems like ESUI expects it to say Next Level and inserts the N there.

I tried replicating the issue, but when I use the UI mods you're using the text just completely reverts to "Next Level."

Thestrifeisrife · « **Reply #58 on:** 2025-02-03 17:56:40 »

Version 1.2 is out now. It should hopefully be the final big grammar fix for the script (this time almost exclusively adding or removing hyphens and commas lmao, only two or three real typos were fixed).

To make it a little more worthwhile, I also added a new bonus feature setting that restores a certain unused scene (in archaeology mode only) that lets a certain character live who usually dies.

sekuza009 · « **Reply #59 on:** 2025-02-03 18:29:45 »

Okay yeah, the new update from either this or ESUI fixed it, now it just says Next Level. Works for me! Are you considering adding support for the 60 fps gameplay mod to this? There's some field mode glitches that happen without a specific fix enabled.

Salk · « **Reply #60 on:** 2025-02-04 17:01:22 »

Wonderful job!

Is the link in the OT updated?

Thanks!

Thestrifeisrife · « **Reply #61 on:** 2025-02-05 23:05:56 »

Oops. Updated now.

Tanoshii · « **Reply #62 on:** 2025-02-10 01:22:12 »

Quote from: Thestrifeisrife on 2025-02-03 17:56:40

To make it a little more worthwhile, I also added a new bonus feature setting that restores a certain unused scene (in archaeology mode only) that lets a certain character live who usually dies.

If this is who I think it is, I don't think it works. I had this enabled before seeing the scene where she dies, but she still died and is still dead after leaving that place. Unless she comes back further down the line?

Vehek · « **Reply #63 on:** 2025-02-11 23:40:44 »

I haven't played FF7 in years, so I haven't tried this mod yet, but I think you've guessed wrong.

Spoiler: show

Tanoshii · « **Reply #64 on:** 2025-02-12 00:15:14 »

Wow, if that's all it was why even be so secretive about it in the options lol.

Thanks though.

Thestrifeisrife · « **Reply #65 on:** 2025-02-13 04:10:48 »

Quote from: Tanoshii on 2025-02-10 01:22:12

If this is who I think it is, I don't think it works. I had this enabled before seeing the scene where she dies, but she still died and is still dead after leaving that place. Unless she comes back further down the line?

Rather than assuming the option doesn't work, you should instead contemplate if your pre-conceived notions have led you astray on what the option actually does.

Spoiler: show

Anyway,

Version 1.21 is out now (yes even on the google drive). Thanks to the OpenFF7R discord we got ahold of a proper script dump for Rebirth, and meticulously compared it with OG's for overlap. SAC's been updated accordingly, as well as adding some overlap with Remake we missed the first time. This should be the final major revision to the script until Remake part 3 comes around, so SAC is now for all intents and purposes "complete" (not that it wasn't already more or less in a complete since 1.0).

Updates from here will be the usual bug fixes, and pursuing a few extras I haven't yet been able to add.

Tanoshii · « **Reply #66 on:** 2025-02-14 00:12:00 »

Quote from: Thestrifeisrife on 2025-02-13 04:10:48

Rather than assuming the option doesn't work, you should instead contemplate if your pre-conceived notions have led you astray on what the option actually does.

Spoiler: show
Vehek is right, it restores the Bugenhagen scene. My greatest character flaw is being intentionally misleading for my own amusement.

Anyway,

Version 1.21 is out now (yes even on the google drive). Thanks to the OpenFF7R discord we got ahold of a proper script dump for Rebirth, and meticulously compared it with OG's for overlap. SAC's been updated accordingly, as well as adding some overlap with Remake we missed the first time. This should be the final major revision to the script until Remake part 3 comes around, so SAC is now for all intents and purposes "complete" (not that it wasn't already more or less in a complete since 1.0).

Updates from here will be the usual bug fixes, and pursuing a few extras I haven't yet been able to add.

I mean, I literally said if it's who I thought it was, then it wasn't working. So because it wasn't about who I thought it was thanks to the poorly worded explanation, my notions were fine.

I will say though that the re-translation has huge misses. The Caith Sith talking like a Canadian is dumb even if you were trying to go for some Kansai dialect. The excessive amount of cursing is also dumb.

It's too bad really. Besides that, it's pretty nice. Can't recommend it as it currently is though.

Bonez · « **Reply #67 on:** 2025-02-14 00:31:59 »

I think most users are going to be confused by the death scene option especially given the way it's worded with "famously". This definitely isn't going to be the last time someone says it's not working correctly. So be ready for that lol.

Thestrifeisrife · « **Reply #68 on:** 2025-02-14 01:51:45 »

Quote from: Tanoshii on 2025-02-14 00:12:00

I will say though that the re-translation has huge misses. The Caith Sith talking like a Canadian is dumb even if you were trying to go for some Kansai dialect. The excessive amount of cursing is also dumb.

It's too bad really. Besides that, it's pretty nice. Can't recommend it as it currently is though.

We got actual Scottish historian and FFVII aficionado M. J. Gallagher to vet all of Cait's line, so if he sounds Canadian to you I don't really know what to say. And we were well aware having "fuck" in the script (five times) was gonna be contentious, but when we asked our twitter followers if we should remove them via poll the overwhelming majority was "keep them." I'd say the level of cursing otherwise is more or less on par with Remake.

Quote from: Bonez on 2025-02-14 00:31:59

I think most users are going to be confused by the death scene option especially given the way it's worded with "famously". This definitely isn't going to be the last time someone says it's not working correctly. So be ready for that lol.

Next update I'll add "(no not her)" to the description lol.

Kirgo · « **Reply #69 on:** 2025-02-15 15:46:54 »

Hi,
quick question: Are you guys still working on optimizing the mod?
I'm getting major slowdowns with the advanced facial animations enabled and in combination with the ninostyle chibi-models.
Scrolling visuals like the ones in the restored Honey-bee Inn also cause these slowdowns.
Overall love what you've done with it though, especially since we now have an actual alternative to Beacause.

Thestrifeisrife · « **Reply #70 on:** 2025-02-15 21:22:00 »

Quote from: Kirgo on 2025-02-15 15:46:54

Hi,
quick question: Are you guys still working on optimizing the mod?
I'm getting major slowdowns with the advanced facial animations enabled and in combination with the ninostyle chibi-models.
Scrolling visuals like the ones in the restored Honey-bee Inn also cause these slowdowns.
Overall love what you've done with it though, especially since we now have an actual alternative to Beacause.

I've heard that the advanced facial animation fix causes slowdown for some people, especially on Steam Deck. not sure why that's the case though. The Honeybee Inn Lobby with Cosmos Limit Break is also pretty laggy. I should establish that I'm not responsible for the Advanced Facial Animation Fix for nino, that would be htp314 (who i don't know if he's an the forum or not). I just advertised it a lot because it was a longstanding issue with SAC that got fixed by it.

CL0UDBUST3R · « **Reply #71 on:** 2025-02-16 21:33:26 »

Quote from: Joxsund on 2024-04-23 20:53:42

Talk to the guy on the left of the lobby until he tells you Tifa isn't there.
Leave and tell Aerith that Tifa wasn't there
Make your way to Don's mansion and talk to the guard and the cutscene with Aerith sugessting Cloud dresses up as a girl will play out.
Talk to the large bearded man at the bottom of the main wall market screen (next to the transition to outside the honeybee) and he will give you a membership card.

I did the last step after aqcuiring the dress and wig but I don't know if that matters.

for some reason, the cut-scene where Aerith suggests Cloud cross-dressing doesnt happen for me. i'm assuming maybe one of the 7th heaven mods that im using is affecting this?

Kuraudo. · « **Reply #72 on:** 2025-02-17 10:30:38 »

Quote from: CL0UDBUST3R on 2025-02-16 21:33:26

for some reason, the cut-scene where Aerith suggests Cloud cross-dressing doesnt happen for me. i'm assuming maybe one of the 7th heaven mods that im using is affecting this?

Could you share screenshot of your mod list?

Thestrifeisrife · « **Reply #73 on:** 2025-02-17 17:58:19 »

Quote from: CL0UDBUST3R on 2025-02-16 21:33:26

for some reason, the cut-scene where Aerith suggests Cloud cross-dressing doesnt happen for me. i'm assuming maybe one of the 7th heaven mods that im using is affecting this?

If you're playing Archaeology mode, it's because you haven't met the conditions for Cloud to even know Tifa is at Corneo's mansion yet so the scene doesn't happen. Talk to to guys in the Honeybee Inn until you've exhausted their dialogue, one of them tells you.

CL0UDBUST3R · « **Reply #74 on:** **Yesterday** at 00:49:30 »

Quote from: Thestrifeisrife on 2025-02-17 17:58:19

If you're playing Archaeology mode, it's because you haven't met the conditions for Cloud to even know Tifa is at Corneo's mansion yet so the scene doesn't happen. Talk to to guys in the Honeybee Inn until you've exhausted their dialogue, one of them tells you.

unfortunately i did that too, i talked to each person about a dozen times. different things happened at different points, like the people in line at honeybee thineed out so i could talk to the guy at the desk. but still i could not trigger the 'make cloud cute' quest. i had to find a save game online and play from that point.

my new bug, is that the pillar has just fallen and crushed sector 7. i need to go back to sector 5 to see aeris mother who has marlene. but on the map south of the playground, the beam that used to be lowered to the ground is back in the air again and i cannot get down to the ground level to go to sector 5.