Author Topic: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods and Modding Framework-The Reunion [R06f] (Read 3071056 times)

DLPB_ · « **Reply #4275 on:** 2018-09-20 20:43:35 »

Ideally, I'd like to release R06 when translation is finalized... and that won't be for at least 3 months (Charlie Beer and I are making excellent progress https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jcnXS15WprRsqaVQ_HFwZSaz_XV-H39Yru_GRpkUT0w/edit#gid=914772850). So perhaps I should wait. hahaha

DLPB_ · « **Reply #4276 on:** 2018-09-20 21:14:15 »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpgRdVBf5Qk

I want The Reunion!
Give it to me! Now!
I want the world! I want the whole world!
It's my mod! I want today! I want tomorrow! I want 60fps battles and I don't want to share it!

I want the works! I want the whole works!

I don't care how! I want it now!

[email protected] · « **Reply #4277 on:** 2018-09-20 21:26:44 »

Vgr · « **Reply #4278 on:** 2018-09-20 21:32:10 »

Nunsrgr8, as you seem to have ignored my friendly warning, I have emitted a formal warning.

Everyone else, please stop dumping more oil on the fire, it is unhelpful. Let's keep it the discussion on-topic from here onwards.

Thank you.

[email protected] · « **Reply #4279 on:** 2018-09-21 22:34:46 »

DLPB_ · « **Reply #4280 on:** 2018-09-21 22:36:45 »

Just gave you one to bring you back to a nice even number

[email protected] · « **Reply #4281 on:** 2018-09-22 11:13:22 »

KnifeTheSky77 · « **Reply #4282 on:** 2018-09-22 20:58:07 »

@DLPB welcome to software development, where nothing is good enough and you're always behind schedule.

I find flattery in impatient customers, it usually means they like what you're doing

DLPB_ · « **Reply #4283 on:** 2018-09-22 23:03:45 »

Haha - yeah.... I must love punishment.

Kuraudo. · « **Reply #4284 on:** 2018-09-23 15:21:05 »

No need to waste time in such a not constructive feedbacks, really guys.

Btw I'm confident in DLPB skills and anyway I'm excited to play it (since I didn't yet)

Melancholy · « **Reply #4285 on:** 2018-09-24 03:27:58 »

What gets me is that DLPB has several releases of Reunion under his belt already. You can clearly see that he is committed to this project based on all the work he has already released. For someone to come on here and say DLPB isn't doing any work or is relying solely on others for this project is just pure ignorance. You can literally see the years of releases he already has put out (for FREE, by the way), yet someone questions if he has done any work on this project? It's mind-boggling. I mean, I want R06 just as bad as any other person in this thread, but lets not lose our heads here.

Lilpuddy31 · « **Reply #4286 on:** 2018-09-24 05:00:03 »

Quote from: Melancholy on 2018-09-24 03:27:58

What gets me is that DLPB has several releases of Reunion under his belt already. You can clearly see that he is committed to this project based on all the work he has already released. For someone to come on here and say DLPB isn't doing any work or is relying solely on others for this project is just pure ignorance. You can literally see the years of releases he already has put out (for FREE, by the way), yet someone questions if he has done any work on this project? It's mind-boggling. I mean, I want R06 just as bad as any other person in this thread, but lets not lose our heads here.

Careful, speaking logic here gets you accused of being a DLPB alt

DLPB_ · « **Reply #4287 on:** 2018-09-24 05:43:05 »

Haha - it does, too.

6:38 AM here - I woke up and, as usual, I am "doing nothing".

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jcnXS15WprRsqaVQ_HFwZSaz_XV-H39Yru_GRpkUT0w/edit#gid=136410833

Rextor · « **Reply #4288 on:** 2018-09-25 09:20:23 »

Hey DLPB, I want to thank you for your tireless work to this project. I've been following this thread off and on for two years or so. As long as you're continuing to make progress gains, I think I can speak for a lot us in that we know it'll be worth the wait. I would recommend not releasing R06 until the translation is more or less finished. Take the time needed to reach that milestone for the release.

DLPB_ · « **Reply #4289 on:** 2018-09-25 21:11:48 »

Thanks

Matski · « **Reply #4290 on:** 2018-09-29 19:39:57 »

Hey, I've been looking over Charlie Beer's feedback spreadsheet. For the most part, I really like most of the changes. Having read most of it, there are some questions that it raises:

In CB7/ship_1 - Is Tifa meant to be asking Cloud if his disguise is making him consider rejoining Soldier, or is she poking fun out of him for taking the role a bit seriously? By the way it's been rewritten, it's hard to tell.
In CB9/crcin_2 - I've always wondered whether Dio's letter was a rush job in the original translation. It always seemed bizarre to me that the reawakened Sephiroth would take some time out to have a friendly chat with anyone. Could the original Japanese text possibly be interpreted as: "I've heard that Sephiroth passed through here the other day..." ... "apparently he was seen heading towards Gongaga, south of the river."
In CB10/cosis1_1 - Just want to clarify Barret's backstory: He's has never been to Cosmo Canyon before and wasn't involved in Avalanche's formation. It was started by someone else and Barret joined at a later date. For some reason I was always under the impression that Barret formed it at the Canyon a few years before the game started, though that would conflict with the claim that he's never visited the place before.
In Rocket Town/rckt - Just want to check that the line "Have you seen a man in a black cloak" hasn't been split into two, seperated choices. Hopefully I've just misread/misunderstood the code tags.

shikun · « **Reply #4291 on:** 2018-09-29 22:21:12 »

1) I think it’s a bit of both. A big part of Tifa’s character is that she hides her true feelings with jokes (or even straight up lies at times), but sometimes her worries shine through.

2) I translated the whole letter from scratch, and Seph did indeed talk to Dio, according to the letter. Unfortunately, even the original script isnt exempt from some blatant silliness.for example, One hint at Costa Del Sol given by an NPC is that Seph is going to Gold Saucer, is that he “came out of the water... holding a golden ticket...”. Seph is a magnificent bastard though, him having Dio hint to Cloud where he is going, might have been the plan.

3) You are correct, but this backstory was seemingly not set in stone by the writers until late in writing , as there are some cut textboxes in Gongaga that seem to contradict this very backstory. Im always mindful of “canon” backstory when checking Barretts lines that touch on it though.

4) A few of the Choice tags look strange/doubled in text format but in-game the cursor placement makes it obvious its only one choice.

I shall doublecheck all these when i have time!

DLPB_ · « **Reply #4292 on:** 2018-09-30 23:20:41 »

The W-item bug is now fully fixed as of R06. Finally vanquished from English game on 1st October 2018.

Matski · « **Reply #4293 on:** 2018-10-01 10:02:22 »

Quote from: shikun on 2018-09-29 22:21:12

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I shall doublecheck all these when i have time!

1. I did wonder whether the line would be tweaked with something like "Do they make you want to reenlist with Soldier?" or "Do they make you dream of being back in Soldier?" But I'm not sure either gets the full sentiment across in in one short line.

2/3. Disappointing but not surprising news. Thanks for your explanations. It's a shame Kitase and Nojima didn't have more time to reassess lines like these.

4. If that's how it works then fair enough. It'll be kept in mind in future read-throughs. Thanks.

DLPB_ · « **Reply #4294 on:** 2018-10-01 12:02:01 »

The sentiment is that Tifa is worried that he will go off his head. She knows he was never a Soldier.

It's also as she says at the same time - that she has a disdain for the army / Shin-Ra / war. It can be interpreted a number of ways but the line as far as I have ever seen it translated is "Does it remind you of being in Soldier. I hope not."

sithlord48 · « **Reply #4295 on:** 2018-10-02 11:57:49 »

Quote from: DLPB on 2018-09-30 23:20:41

The W-item bug is now fully fixed as of R06. Finally vanquished from English game on 1st October 2018.

And there will hopefully be an options for this so i can keep that if i want.

DLPB_ · « **Reply #4296 on:** 2018-10-02 15:25:16 »

There isn't, because reunion eradicates bugs (as in definite bugs) as standard. Your choice is not to use Reunion - or to recode the bug back in. Part of the reunion's main process is to remove bugs and make the game better - not to leave bugs in and make things worse.

In other words, no one is forcing you to install The Reunion. If I start adding in options for bugs, I'd have to code in hundreds of IF statements to field code as well. It's not feasible.

If I did add an option, it would just be a blanket "no fixes" - which would leave a rather crippled game. It's like asking for the frame limiter to be left bugged out.

Finally, who needs W-item glitch when they have your tool to change all weapons and armours and cheat as they want?

KnifeTheSky77 · « **Reply #4297 on:** 2018-10-02 16:59:43 »

That's not a bug, it's a feature!

Matski · « **Reply #4298 on:** 2018-10-05 23:35:44 »

Quote from: DLPB on 2018-10-01 12:02:01

The sentiment is that Tifa is worried that he will go off his head. She knows he was never a Soldier. It's also as she says at the same time - that she has a disdain for the army / Shin-Ra / war. It can be interpreted a number of ways but the line as far as I have ever seen it translated is "Does it remind you of being in Soldier. I hope not."

Does she know for sure? At that stage of the game, my impression was that she doesn't know what to believe and is privately trying to piece it together: She knows that something is off as she remembers Zack turning up four years ago. But she can't comprehend how Cloud knows specific details that noone else should know, such as Sephiroth cutting her down in the reactor and the injury it caused - hence her questions to Cloud at the end of the Kalm Flashback. I figured this line was another example of her probing him, under the guise of a joke while also stating where she stands on the idea.

DLPB_ · « **Reply #4299 on:** 2018-10-05 23:53:13 »

She remembers clearly that Cloud never came to Niblheim.

She only finds out she is wrong in Midhir - that he did join as a normal grunt and that he was present. But you're right that she doesn't understand how he can know things when he wasn't there - so there are parts where the intention is probing also.

But she makes it clear that when she tried to ask about things like that, he was going distant.

The line above it translated correctly. It isn't the attention of the writers to make it crystal clear to the audience.

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In other news, saving on the Midgardsormr marshland has been removed, which fixes the avoid Midgardsormr exploit.

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