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Miscellaneous Forums => Graphical => Topic started by: whitERaven on 2012-09-17 04:42:40
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I was tweaking with grimmys Tifa model (particularly on the Textures) so I think I might as well post my work in progress here..
Battle Model is here with field, chocobo and world version converted by JLOUTLAW.. have fun!
original model is by Grimmy..
CLICK LINK TO DOWNLOAD:Check my new thread at release section http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=13703.0
(http://i.imgur.com/1GkN2.gif)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img31/6831/tifacomplete.jpg)
For Comparison..
(http://imageshack.us/a/img204/1179/comparisont.jpg)
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Would be great !!
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suggestion: add side by side comparsion to the original one
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Did you fix the transparency of her hair?
In game you can see through large parts of her hair.
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Did you fix the transparency of her hair?
In game you can see through large parts of her hair.
the transparency in her hair actually fix itself for me when i installed it using bootleg. when i installed it myself without bootleg i got the see through her hair thing. I dont know if this help but i noticed that i didnt have that problem anymore right after i used bootleg to customize my battle.lgp instead of doing it myself.
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suggestion: add side by side comparsion to the original one
(http://i1049.photobucket.com/albums/s391/croW_588/tia.jpg)
ORIGINAL RETEXTURED
Did you fix the transparency of her hair?
In game you can see through large parts of her hair.
Just finished the skin and the shirt, I'm planning to make an all new texture for the hair and other parts while on it I'll check on the tranparency issue, Ill still use the boots and gloves texture, they're really made and looks cool.
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I'm glad to read that you will be addressing the hair. That and the face were the only thing that bothered me about this model (which is the one i'm using) Everything else so far is looking good! The face already looks 100% better (no disrespect to Grimmy!) Keep it up!
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I'd like to ask, should tifa's hair be pitch black or with a little shade of brown??
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I prefer black, but I think it has a shade of brown in canon
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I guess I'll go with black with tiny bit of brown.. I find it hard to make a decent texture using only black and white colors..
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Like her face better now.
Boobs look smaller tho.
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Oops did not notice the boobs getting smaller, hehe I'll try to do something with it.. we cant have a tifa with small boobies right..
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Oops did not notice the boobs getting smaller, hehe I'll try to do something with it.. we cant have a tifa with small boobies right..
Do not even think of such blasphemy!
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Lol.. of course, I'll see what I can do to enhance the size with texture editing, for now here is the latest update, just finished the hair texture, I havent tested it in game so I'm not sure if the tranparency issue still exists.
(http://imageshack.us/a/img706/5120/87215249.png)
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Do you have any ingame pictures?
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Like I said I havent been able to test the model in-game I dont have my FF7 with me right now I'll test this later when I get home then post some ingame pics here.. I hope the Transparency issue is fixed, I've redone the whole hair textures so it should work. anyway I'll get the ingame pics asap.
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If you need another tester... :)
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If you need another tester... :)
That would be cool, JLOUTLAW offered to test the model, but it wont hurt to have one more tester..
the transparency in her hair actually fix itself for me when i installed it using bootleg. when i installed it myself without bootleg i got the see through her hair thing. I dont know if this help but i noticed that i didnt have that problem anymore right after i used bootleg to customize my battle.lgp instead of doing it myself.
Mind if I ask, when you installed grimmy's tifa what did you use to recompile your battle.lgp?
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I tested her in a few spots and took some screenshots which I am mailing to you now. I didn't run across any issues. The hair wasn't transparent for me. Also, I just use the "direct" folder and change the config to search in the direct folder first. I paste the files into direct-battle, and voila. No need to recompile anything.
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Thanks JLOUTLAW, here are the screenshots you took..
(http://imageshack.us/a/img266/6836/tifascren.jpg)
The hair is fixed now but there are still other transparent part like her strap and other parts of her body so I'll try to fix it next.. theres also the problem with skirt thing, it messes up with the thighs every time tifa moves, any idea how I can fix this? I tried making the thighs thinner but tifa with thin legs is not as sexy..
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When I was adjusting this model in the past, I noticed the legs started out pretty thin to begin with, so every time I increased their width, I had to do the same for the skirt, but also make sure it didn't start looking ridiculous. (bigger legs equates a bigger behind after all?!) It's a bit of a dance, but it's possible to reach a nice happy medium with very minimal mesh breaking.
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I think Xerox Tifa Battle Model is a ripped right ?
Anyway good Job your Grimmy Tifa Model was looking nice :)
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thanks!
zerox tifa model uses a head from kingdom hearts I think..
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Not possible to fix that skirt issue? The overlapping.
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for the skirt if you add the skirt to the thigh model piece that way when it overlaps its skirt overlapping skirt. it may look more appealing
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That's it! your a genius omega, I'll try that I think it'll work..
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i still have that zero model and the coverted field model . i managed to fix skirt issue for the battle model but the main issue is that its riped i can never send anyone the fixed verson.
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It's ok, I dont plan on using zerox ripped model, and I fixed it already thanks to omega's suggestion, at least its ok in kimera, I have yet to test it in game, I'm at work right so cant do that atm..
Well here's the completed work viewed in kimera, the skirt not as messy as before, I just need to test this ingame then ask for grimmy's permission then I can release this model..
(http://imageshack.us/a/img31/6831/tifacomplete.jpg)
For Comparison..
(http://imageshack.us/a/img204/1179/comparisont.jpg)
Is grimmy still around?? can't seem to contact him.. and I haven't seen him here lately..
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Wow! Really love the new face texture a lot actually, I might keep the rest of my own edited model the same, but I would definitely use that head if Grimmy let's you release it. Let's hope you hear back form him. Awesome work again whitERaven!
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Thanks, I enjoyed working on this I'll work on the field model next.. but it'll be easier since the texture is done already, just needs grimmy's permission.
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Your Tifa model looks beautiful than the old one :)
I can't wait to see that model in my ingame play hehehe :p
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Thanks :) :) I'll be releasing it once I'm permitted.. Now I'm looking for a next model to work on.. I'm not good at modeling so I'm looking for models that needs to be textured or needs enhancing.. any suggestions??
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Thanks :) :) I'll be releasing it once I'm permitted.. Now I'm looking for a next model to work on.. I'm not good at modeling so I'm looking for models that needs to be textured or needs enhancing.. any suggestions??
Can i have a Request ?
Can you Retexture too ?? Grimmy Yuffie Model :)
Because i like that Character :) All you have to do
is to Re Edit the face to be too cool like the old one ..
That's my only suggest .. And for your Tifa model ?
I Can't say anything to that model and i can't
suggest because for me its look perfect :)
All i can say is Good Work Men :)
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hehe grimmy's model again, I'll have to contact him first.. not sure if its ok with him .. but I can start on it and see what I can do.. do you have good reference photos for how you want yufie to look like??
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I can't remember seeing a single denied re-texture request. and asking the original modeller for permission is more a formality than really necessary
you can always release it on trial and if he objects you can take it down
I second the request for the yuffie model. it's the only moderately good looking yuffie model we have and the face.. CHRIST
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hehe grimmy's model again, I'll have to contact him first.. not sure if its ok with him .. but I can start on it and see what I can do.. do you have good reference photos for how you want yufie to look like??
Okay Ill Send you a best pic hehehe :)
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I can't remember seeing a single denied re-texture request. and asking the original modeller for permission is more a formality than really necessary
you can always release it on trial and if he objects you can take it down
I second the request for the yuffie model. it's the only moderately good looking yuffie model we have and the face.. CHRIST
Ok, I'll wait a bit for grimmy, if no response.. Ill release the model tomorrow together with the field model if I can get it done..
Okay Ill Send you a best pic hehehe :)
Thanks, I'm not much of a yufie fan so I need a bit of research for her,
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Can i have a Request ?
Can you Retexture too ?? Grimmy Yuffie Model :)
Because i like that Character :) All you have to do
is to Re Edit the face to be too cool like the old one ..
That's my only suggest .. And for your Tifa model ?
I Can't say anything to that model and i can't
suggest because for me its look perfect :)
All i can say is Good Work Men :)
If I recall correctly the current public version of Grimmy's Yuffie is glitched beyond usuable due to an animation error.
Before you start texturing it I would ask PitBrat for his fixed version in case there may be some difference in the model he made to make it work.
Belay that seems you've already found out.
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From the talk i had with grimmy before it sounds like hed be okay with people releasing his stuff. Of course still credit and ask him but if you release before he responds he probably wont have you take it down. Once this is done can i use this in knights of midgar? Also if its an animation error for yuffie then start with the vanilla model and swap out piece for piece.
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(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTrOddb76OAFwTAxraESZ0oH1z6qthMlQgT88kPQKxi5Ecdezl0)
(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT-0WpHm7HiEY4lsB2n0oWV9iXRRGpHoxgyCtDuLliegBrWUVruPQ)
This is the face that i want from Yuffie :)
this is just a suggest .. I hope you like it ;)
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Not just the face but the width of the arms, legs, knees, stomach, I like her shirt better now too, very nice work!
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sorry for delays in releasing the model.. I'm assigned out of town for the weekends (work takes priority) should be able to release it by monday hopefully.. thanks for the positive comments!
for the yufie model, I'll give it a try.. I'm aware of the error, but it can be fixed might be a bit tedious though..
From the talk i had with grimmy before it sounds like hed be okay with people releasing his stuff. Of course still credit and ask him but if you release before he responds he probably wont have you take it down. Once this is done can i use this in knights of midgar? Also if its an animation error for yuffie then start with the vanilla model and swap out piece for piece.
Sure man.. it'll be an honor to see this model included in your mod..
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If there still a error on the Yuffie model ..
Im gladly help you to fix that whitERaven :)
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That Tifa textures are much better now :)
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I wouldnt mind seeing Sephiroth done.
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should I post the link to tifa model here?? or should I start a new thread in the release section??
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if you post a link here, the thread will be moved to releases
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I see.. so here it is..
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?8v8bo3lihq9pvtv
have fun with the new textured tifa.. hope you all like it, for bugs or other issues that I might have missed feel free to post it here.
NOTE: This is a Tifa Battle model only I'm planning to edit the field and world models as well just cant seem to find time right now..
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is that battle only or does it work for field / WM too?
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For now its only a battle model..
If there still a error on the Yuffie model ..
Im gladly help you to fix that whitERaven :)
Thanks, I've checked the yufie model by grimmy, and I think I also need to adjust the lengths and sizes of the body parts, the proportion seems a bit off for my preference, I prefer realistic proportions so I think I'll be doing that first then the texture, if you can give me a whole body picture of yufie i'll be great.. though I'll probably also search for one on my own..
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If I knew what files to edit and turn to .TEX files, i could turn the battle model into a working field model like i did the apz cloud soldier 1st class version and WhiteRaven's Timu Barret retex.
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Very nice work dude ! Looks awesome :)
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If I knew what files to edit and turn to .TEX files, i could turn the battle model into a working field model like i did the apz cloud soldier 1st class version and WhiteRaven's Timu Barret retex.
just copy ruac and ruad and rename them ruac.tex and ruad.tex hope that helps
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Outstanding. I knew of ruac, but not ruad. Thanks. Creating and testing now.
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you should check that first
first, ruad and ruac are both battle files
ruac is for the head textures
ruad for the body textures
Second, If you have the grimmy tifa model you can open the field files, and use biturn or img2tex to view the tex files.
If I remember correctly the field texture file for tifa is AAHD.Tex or something..
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I know you can copy RUAD and RUAC as .TEX files and use them. The battle files don't use type ".TEX," they just use type "file" However, only working on those 2 wasn't enough. There has to be another TEX. I'll hunt for Grimmys Tifa.
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Good luck dude, hope you get it done.. I've been traveling a lot lately cause of work, cant stay put and focus on doing a model.. so I leave the rest to you guys.. Thanks..
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You've got good memory. AAHD.TEX was the common file in both the field and world. Gonna test them and see.
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lol I did try to work on the field model last week.. so its not that strange to remember the file.. I sent you a copy of my grimmy original tifa.. good thing its still in my mail..
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Thanks. I had googled it just before I saw the email. Managed to find the right files to TEX and your Tifa is now working on the field. Trying to create a spot on Black Chocobo where she is the party leader, right after getting the highwind, to test if conversion to world map was also sucessful. Then I will be posting up gifs of the battle, field and hopefully world models, then I'm gonna hit the hay seeing as it's almost 2 am over here. Tomorrow I'll encrypt all the files including the Barret, the cloud Soldier 1st class, and the limit texture on Mediafire.
EDIT: Success on all phases!!!
Here's a few shots of WhiteRaven's Tifa in battle:
(http://i.imgur.com/1GkN2.gif)
Here are the files from battle converted to work in the field:
(http://i.imgur.com/YYgH1.gif)
as well as the world map:
(http://i.imgur.com/MhwlK.jpg)
Tomorrow I will encrypt these files into folders and upload them onto Mediafire for other people to try. Thanks WhiteRaven and ProtoX for the assistance.
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Lol, I should be the one thanking you for taking time in converting my model to field.. I think It'll be better if we compile the battle, world and field versions together in one release, that way it'll be easier for the users.. We can add the chocobo version to complete the tifa models..
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lol thats what i had in mind. For instance the barret model i modified includes your battle model in it.
EDIT: Files archived and uploaded onto Mediafire:
Link removed
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Just a question : files in the battle folder go on the battle folder in direct folder, ok.
Same thing for the word in the word folder, but the field folder, go in the 'char' folder ?
( cause my direct folder doen't go with any 'field' folder )
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Just a question : files in the battle folder go on the battle folder in direct folder, ok.
Same thing for the word in the word folder, but the field folder, go in the 'char' folder ?
( cause my direct folder doen't go with any 'field' folder )
I think you already know but anyway..yes field models are in char folder..
@JLOUTLAW
thanks for helping me in the conversions.. for some reason my kimera can't handle field models.. I keep having that runtime error 7,
I'm copying the link to the top to replace the previous one..
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there is a problem with her hair
it basically sticks to her neck and thus looks really weird
(http://i.imgur.com/oAZov.jpg)
isn't Tifa's hair also supposed to split at the end?
(http://i.imgur.com/0FeTC.jpg)
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yup I'm aware that the hair should be split, the dolphin tail (thats what some calls it) but the tifa model I used was done by grimmy dont use the dolphin tail hair type, I'm don't have that much experience in modeling.. all I did was change the texture and made some resizing using kimera thus I was not able to change the shape of the hair..
as to the sticking to the neck thing.. I think thats an issue on the field model. I cant fix that right now my kimera encounters a lot of error when working with field models.. hopefully JLOUTLAW will check on this.. he did the conversions to field, maybe he can fix that..
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(http://i.imgur.com/gttrL.jpg)
there is also this
and then, there is another issue. When you get peerless / invincible, the model flashes black instead of turning yellow
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Thanks for pointing that out.. that's because I edited the shirt to be shorter, it seems it doesnt match with the model.. I could fix that if I make the shirt longer again to cover that..
but personally I like tifa's shirt shorter thats why I overlooked this error in favor of the shirt.. lol.. I thought it wont matter much since it's only visible in few animations.. but if bothers the users might as well fix it..
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on second thought.. I wont be editing the battle model further except for issues critical to gameplay, I'm satisfied by how I was able to improve grimmy's tifa model and would like to try other models, of course if anyone likes to continue editing this model its fine with me..
for issues on field and world model versions JLOUTLAW is the man for that, he made the conversions so he'll know more..
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I was able to add the so called dolphin style hair onto it.
I guess I can release that too... but problem is I need help texturing the hair...
Belay that....I check back the model is a mess (head is out of proportion now for some reason) arms are stretched and placed above the joint areas... the whole thing needs a new texture too in order for the hair to work...
Basically it's better if I continue from scratch to add the dolphin tail... and honestly I ain't cut out for doing this type of stuff.
Sorry if I got your hopes up.
I hope you find it in your hearts to forgive me.
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you should post a screen of what the dolphin tail looks like now
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you should post a screen of what the dolphin tail looks like now
Sorry in a furious rage to self fix my own mistake I rage erased it after failing one too many time for my short attention span to take :-[.
If the Dolphin tail is very important to you I'll try again once I've learned how to create models better. But I've probably have a better chance at trying to make a new model then trying to add the tail by force to an existing model.
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Lol.. I tried this before using the hair of the original tifa model..
It's easy with kimera though i was not able to texture it, I'm still learning how to make UVs
(http://imageshack.us/a/img684/2543/94398496.jpg)
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looks a bit odd. lol.
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Haha, it really is.. The colors don't match.. and corners are showing in the hair.. thats why I did not include that hair on the release..
BTW is the hair on the zerox tifa model also ripped???
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Zerox's model is the Dissidia model, he's just tweaked the geometry and texture, so it's best not to use anything from it
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I see I was hoping I could use the hair.. guess I'll have to learn modeling..hehe
I'll be releasing all my models on a single thread
here http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=13703.0
Moderators can lock this thread now.
to JLOUTLAW you can transfer your download link for the field conversions, on your own thread so it won't be confusing. It'll be easier to address issues regarding the m0dels that way since I can't answer to issues regarding the field models.