[FF8PC-Steam] Ragnarok Rebalancing Mod (v1.2.3 & v1.1b)

[MrMadakey]

So I just started playing this mod, now I'm just wondering if I'm missing something about the ATB system?

So naturally on mods like this I usually set my ATB to wait. However it seems like that hasn't done much for my current playthrough. Not saying it's too hard just wondering if I've made my life harder by doing this.

I understand that enemies rarely skip their turns, so I'm assuming it has something to do with that.
Just wanted to be sure rather than assuming.

[kx101]

It looks like there was another update on steam (for 2019 version) to version 1.0.3 on Feb 2nd.  I have tried to install the mod today but it crashes on launch now.  Based on some other reading, I think the crash could be caused by the new steam update.  I am able to launch vanilla game fine, only crashes after installing mods.  I tried repeating the install several times from a clean steam download, but same result.

I have played this mod before on standard mode in the past.  Was looking to come back and try Lionheart mode.  Might have to patiently wait for the creator to update the mod for compatibility with the new steam patch.  Thank you for the time and effort you have put into this mod

[Callisto]

A compatibility version for Remastered 1.0.3 is now out.

Installation must be done with zzzDeArchive for now, as Maki's Demaster patch has not been updated yet. If you have used Demaster prior to game version 1.0.3 and want to play this mod now, I'd strongly recommend reinstalling your game from scratch before mod installation to avoid start-up issues (mod setup instructions are included within the DL package). An alternative method will follow as soon as Demaster patch is ready.

@MrMadakey: The ATB system works as usual in this mod. Your impression about something being wrong could stem from the fact that the ATB bar doesn't stop while selecting targets, even if it's set to wait. Also keep in mind that some enemy attacks are counter attacks (such as Biggs' slash attack, or Diablos' Haste, to name a few in the early-game) or abilities that are set to be used consecutively, like the Brothers heal followed by an immediate attack regardless of ATB settings. All in all, I would recommend leaving ATB filling speed to default setting or even lower, to make it easier to keep track of the course of battle.

[kx101]

Thank you for the quick reply.  I was able to install and play your mod now on 1.0.3 using the zzzDeArchive

[Callisto]

Version for use with latest Demaster patch is now up and can be found at the top of the opening post.

DL for use with zzzDeArchive remains available as usual. Just scroll down to setup instructions for Remastered to find a link if you prefer this install method.

@kx101: Thanks for reporting back. Glad to hear it worked.

[kx101]

Does anyone know if Rosetta Stone can still drop from 200g card player in disc 2 prison in this mod (2019 steam) (lionheart mode), or was that changed/removed?  If it does still drop, then would the normal manip from vanilla game using ~54 duel cancels still work on this mod?  I have tried both farming and manip with no luck, and want to make sure it is still possible to drop on this mod before I go back to play hundreds of card games.  I know you can get Rosetta Stone later in the game, but obtaining 3 of them here in disc 2 is just something I usually like to do.

I know the manip says you must use Enc-None, which doesn't seem necessary since I can reach the cell with no encounters, but maybe using Enc-None is required because it effects RNG?  And in this mod there is only Enc-Half available currently.  Maybe this could explain why manip does not seem to work.

On a good note I have enjoyed disc 1 so far on lionheart mode.  Ended up being easier than I expected so far, but probably because I over prepared for most things in disc 1 due to expecting it to be harder.  Killed X-ATM.  Character levels were in 25-28 at end of disc 1.

[Callisto]

Yes, it's still possible to get a Rosetta Stone from said card player, with the chance being slightly increased compared to the original game (4/256 instead of 3/256).

Furthermore, the item received after a card game is still determined by randomly generated number between 0 and 255, but the range that nets a Rosetta Stone has been changed in this mod: In the base game you need to roll either 253, 254 or 255 to win one, whereas in this mod, you'd need to roll either 239, 240, 241 or 242 - so I don't think that the known RNG manipulating tricks still work.

Here's an overview of what can be received from both card players:

Code: [Select]

Generated number Item 200 G player Item 500 G player

0-118 Potion+ Potion+
119-182 Eye Drops Eye Drops
183-214 Remedy Remedy
215-230 Wind Flute Gaia Drum
231-238 Mega-Potion X-Potion
239-242 Rosetta Sone Power Wrist
243-255 Hi-Potion+ Mega Phoenix
The chance for the one-time item is calculated independently from this and has been increased from 1/32 to 1/8 in this mod, and the reward itself has been changed as well: A Tri-Point card from the 200 G player and a Mobile Type 8 card from the 500 G player.

[kx101]

As a programmer, I appreciate the in depth explanation.

Based on the table you shared, it makes sense that the manip would not work on this mod.  I had previously tried the 54 cancel manip a couple dozen times (while also adding in some variation for 53,55,56, etc) but was not having any luck.  But I was getting Hi-Potion+ most often.  So if I'm understanding, then getting a Hi-Potion+ on this mod would likely mean I was executing the 54 manip "correctly" based on the vanilla game reward table.  But then due to the reward table position changing for this mod, the number of cancels would have to be something different for a manip to work, but I think its better to leave that number a mystery

Honestly I'd rather not be using a manip at all for this, was only using it as a test to see if the item existed on the reward table.  It feels more rewarding to have to earn such a powerful optional item early in the game.  Thanks again for the information.

[singaporygon]

Hi, in the 2nd battle vs BGH251F2, suddenly Mighty Guard was applied to my party out of nowhere.
Not complaining if it's helping me, but I'm wondering how did this happen?

Also, is Gilgamesh good in this mod?

[Patrickz22]

Can i play this mod on the nintendo switch?

[Joe87]

I completed this the other day and I just wanted to say thanks for the considerable time and effort making such a great mod for one of my favourite games, it really enhanced it and made it special again. Excellent job!

[singaporygon]

Yeah this is an awesome mod I totally agree!

By the way I'm pretty elated right now because I managed to beat Tonberry King soon after being able to explore with Balamb Garden. (much harder than vanilla's at this point)

The main strategy was having Squall spam limits and have both Quistis and Rinoa cast Double Blizzagas if they didn't need to spend their turns reviving Squall or supporting each other.

For those wondering, you get like ~10 Doubles naturally before this, and then to get Blizzagas I drew them from Snow Lions, an easy encounter in Trabia if you have enough Demis.
[I didn't know I could draw -agas this early but I found the Lions while battling Blue Dragons to get weapon upgrade materials for Quistis and Zell. As an aside it took WAY too long to get dragon skins: High-Level andacondas aren't available & I don't want to mod that 1 Carbuncle card so Calisto please increase Blue Dragons way too low encounter rate!!!] 

[Helminth]

Hi guys, does anyone have the full list of abilities each GF can learn on their own, and when they unlock? I want to plan which gf gets to use these gf learning items for my loadout. Thanks.

[Fauve]

Is this mod the same between the regular steam release and the Remastered version?

[Callisto]

Hi, in the 2nd battle vs BGH251F2, suddenly Mighty Guard was applied to my party out of nowhere.
Not complaining if it's helping me, but I'm wondering how did this happen?

Also, is Gilgamesh good in this mod?

BGH251F2 using Mighty Guard and Mega-Potion after a certain time has passed is intended, mainly just to make it more believable that Selphie and the others are still trapped inside. Think of it as Selphie having trouble controlling that thing at first (which is understandable considering its nearly broken state), but after some time, she figures out what buttons to press to actually help the party. Not that it really matters in the end - at the time BGH251F2 starts doing this, it barely does any damage anymore, making it basically impossible to lose the battle.

Gilgamesh is unchanged from the base game (damage increase for Excaliber and Masamune aside). If you don't like his random appearances in battle and already got Odin, make sure to have at least 1 Amethyst in your item inventory before facing Seifer in Lunatic Pandora, to avoid Odin getting replaced with Gilgamesh.

Can i play this mod on the nintendo switch?

No, not yet. At the moment, I don't even know how to port it, but I'll take a look at it after v1.3 for 2013 Steam version is done.

As an aside it took WAY too long to get dragon skins: High-Level andacondas aren't available & I don't want to mod that 1 Carbuncle card so Calisto please increase Blue Dragons way too low encounter rate!!!]

Blue Dragons are actually very common at the non-snowy cliff areas near Trabia Garden. If there is any information in mod documents that point to the encounters at the snowy forests, I apologize - they are indeed quite rare at this location. I didn't know about their common appearance at the cliffs until very recently.

Hi guys, does anyone have the full list of abilities each GF can learn on their own, and when they unlock? I want to plan which gf gets to use these gf learning items for my loadout. Thanks.

There isn't such a list available at this time, but you can check GF skill trees by extracting the kernel.bin file from main.fs archive (found in lang-en folder) and then opening it with the Doomtrain tool.

Is this mod the same between the regular steam release and the Remastered version?

The differences between the two versions are currently very few. A short summary can be found here.

Keep in mind that despite JWP's Vit 0 patch missing in Remastered, some enemies are still immune to Vit 0 in that version. If an enemy is vulnerable, they just don't have any resistance and the status will be inflicted nearly 100% of the time (unless the target's Spirit stat is very high).

[NissyHime]

Hello! im curious if the abilities that it mentions you get for drawing the GF's are random? or is it a static affect no matter what? it's kind of confusing how that process works, or is it just for the single battle they are drawn from?

Edit: Figured it out xD

[ReloadPsi]

Works on the Remaster right? I'll have to check this out! Finally give me an excuse to play Remaster as well since I wasted the money on the thang ding!

Will this get a dialogue update similar to FF7 NT where the translation is improved?

[Helminth]

This NORG (Lionheart) fight has got to be the most disgusting fight I've encountered yet lol. Reflect misses him so he has free reign to use his Renew, his Renew can't be dispelled, he has a single turn team dispel but no debuff magic works aside from Meltdown. The strategy is just to just out damage his heals. I used Demi a bazillion times and had my DPS damage him fast enough at the tail end so he couldn't cast Renew again. The fight at the prison bridge with the two robots and red soldiers was more interesting than this. I wondered if Doom would have worked too but I'm too tired from trying to check which status spell works and the save point from the boss fight is kinda far what with all the talking and whatnot.

Would Doom have worked on this fight? I'm gonna KO myself if so.

[AbsoLootAaron]

Just wanted to say hi... *peepoShy* lol
Keep up the good work, Callisto!

[Yoids]

There isn't such a list available at this time, but you can check GF skill trees by extracting the kernel.bin file from main.fs archive (found in lang-en folder)

Just created an account to thank you for this mod. Amazing work.
As contribution, here you have the list for the GF abilities (all GF have "Item", "Magic" and "GF", so I will not list them):


Quezacotl
His attack causes SLOW (low/mid chance)

SumMag+10%	HP-J	T Mag-RF	HP+10%
SumMag+20%	MAG-J	Mid Mag-RF	Mag+10%
GFHP+10%	VIT-J	Card	Mag+20%
GFHP+20%	Elem-Atk-J	Card Mod
No Experience	Elem-Def-J
	Elem-Defx2

   

Shiva
Her attack causes STOP (low/mid chance)

SumMag+10%	STR-J	IMag-RF	Vit+10%
SumMag+20%	VIT-J	Doom	Vit+20%
SumMag+30%	SPR-J		Spr+10%
GFHP+10%	Elem-Atk-J		Spr+20%
GFHP+20%	Elem-Def- J
No Experience	Elem-Defx2

Ifrit
His attack causes VIT0 (low/mid chance)

SumMag+10%	STR-J	Return Damage	Str+10%
SumMag+20%	HP-J	FMag-RF	Str+20%
GFHP+10%	Elem-Atk-J	Ammo-RF	HP+10%
GFHP+20%	Elem-Def- J	Mad Rush
GFHP+30%	Elem-Defx2
No Experience

Siren
Her attack causes SILENCE (high chance)

SumMag+10%	MAG-J	Supt-Mag-RF	Mag+10%
SumMag+20%	ST-Atk-J	LMag-RF	Mag+20%
SumMag+30%	ST-Def-J	STMed-RF
GFHP+10%	ST-Def-Jx2	Heal
GFHP+20%		Treatment
		Move-Find
		Med Data

Brothers
Their attack causes PETRIFY (low/mid chance)

SumMag+10%	STR-J	Step Mine/Traveler	HP+10%
SumMag+20%	SPR-J	Abilityx3	HP+20%
SumMag+30%	HP-J	Cover	STR+10%
GFHP+10%	Elem-Atk-J
GFHP+20%	Elem-Def-J
GFHP+30%	Elem-Defx2

Diablos
His attack does not cause any status effect

GFHP+10%	HP-J	TimeMag-RF	HP+10%
GFHP+20%	MAG-J	STMag-RF	HP+20%
GFHP+30%	HIT-J	Enc-Half	MAG+10%
GFHP+40%	EVA-J	Darkside	MAG+20%
		Mug
		Abilityx3

Carbuncle
His attack grants REFLECT and REGEN

GFHP+10%	Luck-J	RecovMed-RF	Vit+10%
GFHP+20%	HP-J	Counter	Vit+20%
GFHP+30%	MAG-J	Auto-Reflect	HP+10%
	VIT-J	Abilityx3	HP+20%
	ST-Atk-J
	ST-Def-J
	ST-Def-Jx2

Leviathan
His attack causes DEATH (mid chance)

SumMag+10%	SPR-J	Tool-RF	Spr+10%
SumMag+20%	MAG-J	GFRecovMed-RF	Spr+20%
SumMag+30%	Elem-Atk-J	Treatment
GFHP+10%	Elem-Defx2	MedData
GFHP+20%		Auto Potion
GFHP+30%		Move-HPUp

Pandemona
Her attack causes CONFUSION (high chance)

SumMag+10%	STR-J	Initiative	SPD+10%
SumMag+20%	HIT-J	Card	SPD+20%
SumMag+30%	SPD-J		STR+10%
GFHP+10%	Elem-Atk-J		STR+20%
GFHP+20%	Elem-Def-J
GFHP+30%	Elem-Defx2

Cerberus
His attack grants DOUBLE and TRIPLE

GFHP+10%	STR-J	Auto-Haste	SPD+10%
GFHP+20%	MAG-J	Doom	SPD+20%
GFHP+30%	SPR-J	Abilityx3
	SPD-J	Alert
	HIT-J	Expend2x1
	ST-Atk-J
	ST-Def-Jx2
	ST-Def-Jx4

Alexander
His attack BLINDS (high chance)

SumMag+10%	SPR-J	MedData	Spr+10%
SumMag+20%	Elem-Atk-J	MedLvUp	Spr+20%
SumMag+30%	Elem-Defx2	HighMag-RF
GFHP+10%	Elem-Defx4	Abilityx3
GFHP+20%		Revive
GFHP+30%		Defend

Doomtrain
His attack causes SLEEP, SLOW, STOP, DOOM, PETRIFY, CONFUSION, VIT0, POISON, DARKNESS, SILENCE and BERSERK (mid/high chance)

SumMag+10%	Elem-Atk-J	Auto-Shell
SumMag+20%	Elem-Defx4	MadRush
SumMag+30%	ST-Atk-J	Kamikaze
SumMag+40%	ST-Def-Jx4	Devour
GFHP+10%		JunkShop
GFHP+20%		ForbidMed-RF
GFHP+30%
GFHP+40%

Bahamut
His attack does not cause any status effect

SumMag+10%		Mug	STR+30%
SumMag+20%		Expend2x1	MAG+30%
SumMag+30%		Expend3x1
SumMag+40%		Auto-Protect
GFHP+10%		Rare Item
GFHP+20%		Move-HPUp
GFHP+30%		ForbidMag-RF
GFHP+40%		Abilityx4

Cactuar
His attack does not cause any status effect

GFHP+10%	SPD-J	Defend	Eva+30%
GFHP+20%	EVA-J	AutoPotion	Luck+30%
GFHP+30%	LUCK-J	Initiative	Spd+10%
GFHP+40%	HIT-J	MiniMog	Spd+20%
		Move-HPUp
		Kamikaze

Tonberry
His attack causes DEATH (high chance)

SumMag+10%		Recover	Eva+30%
SumMag+20%		Auto Potion	Luck+30%
SumMag+30%		Initiative
GFHP+10%		Haggle
GFHP+20%		Sell-High
GFHP+30%		Familiar
		Call Shop
		MiniMog
		Level Down
		Level Up

Eden
His attack does not cause any status effect

SumMag+10%	HIT-J	Enc-None	Eva+30%
SumMag+20%	EVA-J	GFAblMed-RF	Luck+30%
SumMag+30%		MadRush
SumMag+40%		Expend3x1
GFHP+10%		Ribbon (at level 80)
GFHP+20%		Devour
GFHP+30%
GFHP+40%

[Robgatti]

Edit: I managed to get it going, my apologies.

Edit 2: Is the alternate Title Screen available for Remastered or just 2013?

[Yoids]

Yes, it's still possible to get a Rosetta Stone from said card player, with the chance being slightly increased compared to the original game (4/256 instead of 3/256).

Furthermore, the item received after a card game is still determined by randomly generated number between 0 and 255, but the range that nets a Rosetta Stone has been changed in this mod: In the base game you need to roll either 253, 254 or 255 to win one, whereas in this mod, you'd need to roll either 239, 240, 241 or 242 - so I don't think that the known RNG manipulating tricks still work.

Here's an overview of what can be received from both card players:

Code: [Select]

Generated number Item 200 G player Item 500 G player

0-118 Potion+ Potion+
119-182 Eye Drops Eye Drops
183-214 Remedy Remedy
215-230 Wind Flute Gaia Drum
231-238 Mega-Potion X-Potion
239-242 Rosetta Sone Power Wrist
243-255 Hi-Potion+ Mega Phoenix
The chance for the one-time item is calculated independently from this and has been increased from 1/32 to 1/8 in this mod, and the reward itself has been changed as well: A Tri-Point card from the 200 G player and a Mobile Type 8 card from the 500 G player.

Ok I give up. I played 190 games and did not get the Rosetta Stone.
Are you certain that it is coded correctly? Maybe in the table you wrote "Rosetta Sone" instead of "Rosetta Stone" like you did here in the table, and that makes the prize impossible to get?

[forkst]

Callisto everytime i try patch my FFVIII_EFIGS.dll file with your patching file, it goes to the An unknown exception has occurred screen when i first boot up my final fantasy 8 remastered steam game using your mod

[singaporygon]

Hi, any tips on getting Odin as soon as possible? I'm in Disc 2, I have Tonberry King, and I just beat the Captain/Commander in Balamb; I think I'm still too underpowered to kill the enemies quickly on the way to Odin with the timer and all that etc.

So like any tricks to get it done quickly? I thought I might wait until getting Eden and Enc-None but that might come real late right and thus missing opportunities for Odin to put in work?

Or what's the recommended time to go for Odin?

[Nesouk]

Can anyone tell me where the Iguions are ? I've been searching in the sewers for hours and can't find them at all.