Author Topic: [FF7] Tutorial for Bootleg - Tifa's Bootleg (Read 2444394 times)

EQ2Alyza · « **Reply #2400 on:** 2014-08-09 16:34:35 »

Yep, that's correct. It says that in its hover message.

Salvy · « **Reply #2401 on:** 2014-08-09 17:04:09 »

Oh my mistake, I had windows firewall turned on when I downloaded and installed it. Ill turn it off, download it reinstall and post the results

RayofSpeed · « **Reply #2402 on:** 2014-08-09 18:54:55 »

It's actually just the Eidos logo that lags badly, but the Square one could; none of the other ingame cutscenes do (thus far). Regarding my GPU, it chugs and struggles a bit when loading a large texture for the first time, but it's far from unplayable. Anyway, weirdly it worked just fine yesterday, with internal resolution disabled.

As it transpires, my internal resolution has, for no reasons known to man, set itself to 3840x2160 (according to the bootloader).

Checking the internal resolution box and setting it to 1024x768 causes it to pop the same error, and on rebooting the bootloader, the internal resolution box is still checked and still set to 1024x768. Here's the APP.LOG:

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INFO: FF7/FF8 OpenGL driver version 0.7.11b
INFO: Auto-detected version: FF7 1.02 US English
INFO: NVIDIA Corporation GeForce 7600 GT/PCIe/SSE2 2.1.2
INFO: OpenGL 2.0 support detected
INFO: Using PBO
INFO: Found swap_control extension
INFO: Max texture size: 4096x4096
INFO: Number of texture units: 4
INFO: Original resolution 640x480, window size 1024x738, output resolution 984x738, internal resolution 1024x768
INFO: FBO extension detected, using fast scaling/postprocessing path
ERROR: Driver didn't accept our FBO attachments, reverting to slow path
INFO: Shader limits: varying 32, vert uniform 1024, frag uniform 2048
ERROR: no FBO support, cannot render in higher resolution than window size
INFO: internal resolution clamped to 984x738
INFO: FFMpeg movie player plugin loaded
INFO: FFMpeg version SVN-r25886, Copyright (c) 2000-2010 Fabrice Bellard, et al.
INFO: FF7Music helper plugin loaded
INFO: Loading external library Multi.dll
LOCK UNLOCK TEST 
MATRIX INITIALIZE 
INITIALIZE DD/D3D END 
initializing sound...
creating dsound primary buffer
reading audio file
loading static sounds
sound initialized
set music volume: 127
set music volume: 127
Entering MAIN
Exiting MAIN
START OF CREDITS!!!
ERROR: couldn't open movie file: C:\Steam\steamapps\common\FINAL FANTASY VII\movies\eidoslogo.avi
ERROR: couldn't open movie file: C:\Steam\steamapps\common\FINAL FANTASY VII\movies\sqlogo.avi
WM_CLOSE 
END OF CREDITS!!!
Field Quit
UNINITIALIZE DD 
END UNINITIALIZE DD

EDIT: on a whim I decided to try setting both the internal resolution and the window resolution to 984x738, following this line -
>INFO: internal resolution clamped to 984x738
- and while the game is no longer popping the "internal resolution too high" error, the opening credits are now chugging at about one frame per minute, which is absolutely not supposed to happen and didn't when the game was functioning just fine yesterday. Here's the APP.LOG from that:

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INFO: FF7/FF8 OpenGL driver version 0.7.11b
INFO: Auto-detected version: FF7 1.02 US English
INFO: NVIDIA Corporation GeForce 7600 GT/PCIe/SSE2 2.1.2
INFO: OpenGL 2.0 support detected
INFO: Using PBO
INFO: Found swap_control extension
INFO: Max texture size: 4096x4096
INFO: Number of texture units: 4
INFO: Original resolution 640x480, window size 984x738, output resolution 984x738, internal resolution 984x738
INFO: Shader limits: varying 32, vert uniform 1024, frag uniform 2048
INFO: FFMpeg movie player plugin loaded
INFO: FFMpeg version SVN-r25886, Copyright (c) 2000-2010 Fabrice Bellard, et al.
INFO: FF7Music helper plugin loaded
INFO: Loading external library Multi.dll
LOCK UNLOCK TEST 
MATRIX INITIALIZE 
INITIALIZE DD/D3D END 
initializing sound...
creating dsound primary buffer
reading audio file
loading static sounds
sound initialized
set music volume: 127
set music volume: 127
Entering MAIN
Exiting MAIN
START OF CREDITS!!!
ERROR: couldn't open movie file: C:\Steam\steamapps\common\FINAL FANTASY VII\movies\eidoslogo.avi
ERROR: couldn't open movie file: C:\Steam\steamapps\common\FINAL FANTASY VII\movies\sqlogo.avi
set music volume: 127
WM_CLOSE 
END OF CREDITS!!!
Field Quit
UNINITIALIZE DD 
END UNINITIALIZE DD

Salvy · « **Reply #2403 on:** 2014-08-10 06:15:22 »

Okay so I installed and ran the installer, but I can't hear any music when I play. Nor any found fx like shooting or slicing

Salvy · « **Reply #2404 on:** 2014-08-10 07:01:28 »

Wait I got it to work. I changed the music plugin on ff7opengl from vgmstream_music.fgp to ff7music.fgp. At first the midi and sound fx wasn't working, so I opened ff7config and I tested all the sound drivers. Then I ran the game and it works perfectly now! Thank you for the help, I appreciate it

EQ2Alyza · « **Reply #2405 on:** 2014-08-10 13:51:39 »

If you're having to change the music plugin out of vgmstream, then that means you're using Aali's 0.8.1b, which isn't a part of the Bootleg install.

Sigh, these are reasons why I've almost given up helping the public with Bootleg anymore. All too often I run into users who don't follow the instructions in the tutorial.

Sora123masta · « **Reply #2406 on:** 2014-08-11 13:58:56 »

Quote from: EQ2Alyza on 2014-08-10 13:51:39

If you're having to change the music plugin out of vgmstream, then that means you're using Aali's 0.8.1b, which isn't a part of the Bootleg install.

Sigh, these are reasons why I've almost given up helping the public with Bootleg anymore. All too often I run into users who don't follow the instructions in the tutorial.

I know the feeling, people don't read. They're too fucking lazy to read the fine print. That's education for you, but you know what they say right? Ignorance is bliss.

Vgr · « **Reply #2407 on:** 2014-08-11 15:23:19 »

Fun fact: When we made Bootleg, we made sure to squash all the bugs. 95% of the user helping I've done was caused by a PEBCAK problem. In some rare cases an odd bug pops in, but most of the time people don't read. Thank god I'm more patient than I used to be

Cynas · « **Reply #2408 on:** 2014-08-11 15:34:16 »

Having a problem with music because I screwed around with something I shouldn't have and windows crashed on me.

This is the log from FF7Music:

Prevented from resuming
CSR9
WM_ACTIVATEAPP

LOG_SYSTEM: [GoogleUpdate:goopdate]: ERROR - Cannot create ETW log writer

Proceed with written floggings and laughter, then please help!

EDIT: I may have fixed this already by playing around in FF7Config as well as FF7Music under config. I believe I was expecting an updated track where there shouldn't have been one (sector 7 pillar).
Proceed with floggings anyway.

RayofSpeed · « **Reply #2409 on:** 2014-08-13 14:00:44 »

Quote from: Vgr on 2014-08-11 15:23:19

Fun fact: When we made Bootleg, we made sure to squash all the bugs. 95% of the user helping I've done was caused by a PEBCAK problem. In some rare cases an odd bug pops in, but most of the time people don't read. Thank god I'm more patient than I used to be

Apparently not all the bugs. At the moment what I'm noticing is that FF7 will run fine on my first boot of it after a fresh install, but if at any point I close and re-open Bootloader, it breaks; I'm starting to wonder if it's because I'm running on Windows 7, since I never had this kind of problem when my computer ran XP.

EQ2Alyza · « **Reply #2410 on:** 2014-08-13 14:32:05 »

He said 95%, which doesn't mean all the bugs. 100% would, and that'd be realistically impossible. I don't know how we'd be able to solve your issue, considering I run all my installs on Windows 7 for a desktop and a laptop. We can't replicate every computer setup, so "bugs" are bound to pop-up. And when we're talking "bugs" here, it's really just the programs associated with Bootleg that give people problems. Very rarely does anyone report mod bugs.

I think Bootleg should always be considered a beta build, and it's up to the users to know how to resolve issues due to their own computer setups and settings. We have a limited number of computer setups to test before a release, and whenever it is released, it's tested as Vgr says.

Salvy · « **Reply #2411 on:** 2014-08-14 15:38:16 »

I appreciate the large amount of work you have put in to making ff7 a much better experience and I sincerely apologize for asking dumb questions. I understand that you've been at this for years and you probably get annoyed as hell when you have newbs like myself asking trivial things about issues that arose from not properly following instructions.

But I accidentally run into these issues because I live in an area where I have limited bandwidth so I am unable to simply download every single mod, package and program. The first time I installed everything correctly and it worked fine, but the hard drive I had it installed on went out so I sort of got flustered and carelessly rushed through the installation on the new hard drive I got

Sora123masta · « **Reply #2412 on:** 2014-08-15 13:36:55 »

Just remember not to rush things next time. Do a fresh install and take your time. Whenever I get mine installed I simply do stuffs. Hurr paaa durrrp

Salvy · « **Reply #2413 on:** 2014-08-15 15:35:24 »

Oh it works perfectly now. I used that one program that deleted any trace of ff7, then I followed everything step-by-step. However the music was the only issue for a while because I installed anxious heart. So question (informational purpose only, I'm not having issues with the music): is it possible to run the bootleg without having FF7 music install? I noticed that the music_ogg folder in data is gone after ff7 music installs. It seems simpler to replace the ogg music files with the ones included with AH.

EQ2Alyza · « **Reply #2414 on:** 2014-08-15 15:38:05 »

It will be in the next Bootleg release when it supports Aali's Driver 0.8.1b.

Sora123masta · « **Reply #2415 on:** 2014-08-15 17:39:14 »

Yo I do have a question I have been meaning to ask. All the new mods that are going to be coming out for graphic updates, audio and gameplay; will they all be put into another torrent for a full package like your other ones when the new bootleg comes out?

Cmilan · « **Reply #2416 on:** 2014-08-25 14:17:06 »

Well guys i still got problems with the minigames now on snowboard and this time i find no way to avoid it like the condor one!

It completly crashes my game when i want to go to the snowboard minigame!

Kaldarasha · « **Reply #2417 on:** 2014-08-25 14:20:42 »

If the snowboard minigame crashes then it's possible that FF7.exe is the problem. Make a backup of it and replace it with the one from the 1.02 patch.

Cmilan · « **Reply #2418 on:** 2014-08-26 08:30:11 »

Well if i replace the exe the game doesn't even start ^^

Here the error message when i want to start the snowboard event and i already replaced the snowboard file the one in the cd2!

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ERROR: failed to find file snowboard/ea_k.TEX (LGP) (path: C:\Program Files (x86)\Square Soft, Inc.\Final Fantasy VII\Data\minigame)
ERROR: offset error: ea_k.TEX
ERROR: could not open file ea_k.TEX
ERROR: COULD NOT LOAD TEXTURE DATA FILE ea_k.TEX
ERROR: COULD NOT LOAD TEXTURE DATA FILE ea_k.tim

BlazingSpirit · « **Reply #2419 on:** 2014-09-05 20:35:40 »

Well, I'm having a kinda big problem with my installation. I've done everything as instructed by the Tutorial, downloaded the entire set of mods from the mega page, and tried to install them. However, at the very last step, trying to play the game from the bootloader, it gives the error message of "Cannot find C:Games:FF7:ff7.exe" I've checked the folder and there actually isn't an ff7.exe, it's ff7_en.exe. I guess this is because I have the steam version, but I'm really trying to figure out why it can't accept the _en version. I can't change the name of the _en file due to "Administrator" problems, despite the fact I am the only user and admin of my computer as well as changing the security on the full control for all users. I've done this several times, retrying all the steps in order three times now after fully uninstalling everything and clearing the registry and deleting the "Games" folder. I've already looked through the forum for a fix to no avail, so thanks for everything y'all have done and for a simple fix to this.

EQ2Alyza · « **Reply #2420 on:** 2014-09-05 20:53:43 »

Did you use FF7_GameConverter_BC.exe from STEP 1?

BlazingSpirit · « **Reply #2421 on:** 2014-09-05 21:06:17 »

Yeah, I did. D:

Edit:
I just realized that the ff7_en.exe in the steam folder could be modified however I wanted but the copied one refused to be renamed, as well as refusing to let me copy a renamed one from the steam folder into the FF7 folder.

Sora123masta · « **Reply #2422 on:** 2014-09-05 21:40:00 »

Did you follow all the troubleshooting steps for the steam version listed in the first page? :I

BlazingSpirit · « **Reply #2423 on:** 2014-09-05 21:51:18 »

Well, yes. There really isn't anything there that applies to this though (at least that I could see) xp

Edit:
I think I've found what the problem was. I now feel exceptionally stupid about it, but it turns out the UAC refused to be turned off the first time I did it. I watched the patcher in action a couple times and each time it said access to ff7.exe was denied, so I double checked the UAC. Turns out that was the problem the entire time.

Sora123masta · « **Reply #2424 on:** 2014-09-08 18:01:11 »

Quote from: BlazingSpirit on 2014-09-05 21:51:18

Well, yes. There really isn't anything there that applies to this though (at least that I could see) xp

Edit:
I think I've found what the problem was. I now feel exceptionally stupid about it, but it turns out the UAC refused to be turned off the first time I did it. I watched the patcher in action a couple times and each time it said access to ff7.exe was denied, so I double checked the UAC. Turns out that was the problem the entire time.

Of course, naturally. I overlooked this issue. Sadly I did not have time to give notice due to my mom being put in the hospital, Pneumonia from smoking. e.e Oh well, if you have any more problems we'll be glad to help. I'm just another user of bootleg but I like to work with coding and CSS, python refuses to work on my pc but meh.