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Title: Garden by The SaINT
Post by: Joey on 2001-01-02 09:55:00

There seems to be a lot of error messages. It reports that MFC42D.DLL has something wrong......

Title: Garden by The SaINT
Post by: Qhimm on 2001-01-02 17:00:00

The SaINT obviously compiled the debug version of Garden, which requires the debug version of the Microsoft Foundation Classes. Try picking up the latest files from MS' web site, or get SaINT to compile the release version.

Title: Garden by The SaINT
Post by: The Skillster on 2001-01-02 22:36:00

any difference qhimm between the debug version and the normal one?

Title: Garden by The SaINT
Post by: dagsverre on 2001-01-03 01:49:00

The debug version is a little larger and slower.

Title: Garden by The SaINT
Post by: The Skillster on 2001-01-03 17:29:00

hmm, i remeber qhimm saying something about athor archives where just 'sampled' and only the field archive was extracted (in the debug version), so maybe in the release version...

Title: Garden by The SaINT
Post by: Ged on 2001-01-08 11:33:00

Joey, but you work at SquareSoft, right? They can give such a proggie to their 'part-time-staffs', and if not, your friend can help you, can't he?

Title: Garden by The SaINT
Post by: Joey on 2001-01-10 06:39:00

We are not supposed to have something to do with cheat programs. The last guy I know who brought a cheat program to work and it was discovered by everyone ended up whacked by everyone and an egg on his face everyday until he quitted.

Title: Garden by The SaINT
Post by: Srethron Askvelhtnod on 2001-01-10 08:10:00

Joey: I believe Ged's point was that, since you work at Square, wouldn't you already know how FF8 works? Wouldn't you have access to complete programs much more advanced than Griever? (The programs originally written to make FF8 in the first place.)

Also, on a side note, I'm confused. Why would someone bring a cheat program into work? Wouldn't he be more concerned with trying to take company stuff home with him?(like those programs I mentioned)

Title: Garden by The SaINT
Post by: Joey on 2001-01-10 14:24:00

1) No I don't because I did not program FF8. If I did, I would have to refer to those who made it and my secret will be....

2)Don't know. maybe he wanted to expiriment with something......

Anyway, Do you guys know where can I get Source code for VB?

Title: Garden by The SaINT
Post by: The SaiNt on 2001-01-10 20:00:00

I get the feeling that Joey is lying again..............

Title: Garden by The SaINT
Post by: The Skillster on 2001-01-10 21:08:00

 http://members.tripod.co.uk/TheSkillster/ff8/gardnrls.exe  release1 http://members.tripod.co.uk/TheSkillster/ff8/gardndb.exe  debug ver

Title: Garden by The SaINT
Post by: Caddberry on 2001-01-11 12:09:00

Ok now does anyone find this funny.. Joey wouldnt square have "cheat" programs to test the game.. I thought thats one of the things they used to beta test the game.. see if it crashed if you did this or that... In fact i believe thats how cheat codes were discovered. They are basically for the programmers / beta testers to fully test the game in all areas.

Title: Garden by The SaINT
Post by: sENGzAI on 2001-01-11 18:42:00

why when i run graden debug version always say MFC42D.DLL is something wrong ???
i try many time & updae it also can't run
what i need to do

Title: Garden by The SaINT
Post by: The Skillster on 2001-01-11 20:12:00

? come on ksfung,
there are two versions
 a debug one
and a release one.
the one your using is the debug one

Title: Garden by The SaINT
Post by: Srethron Askvelhtnod on 2001-01-11 20:14:00

ksfung: If you're going to run the debug version, you'll need to get the debug version of MCFC. I believe it is available from Microsoft's site.

Title: Garden by The SaINT
Post by: on 2001-01-12 03:29:00

Well, I am not sure about a debugged version of the dll MCFC, but mabye http://solo.abac.com/dllarchive/
   
can help, it's a DLL archive site.

Title: Garden by The SaINT
Post by: sENGzAI on 2001-01-12 18:43:00

so Srethron Askvelhtnod,
where i need to go to download debug version DLL ????

Title: Garden by The SaINT
Post by: The Skillster on 2001-01-12 19:10:00

go get the file debugdll.aip from  http://members.tripod.co.uk/TheSkillster/debugdll.zip
and stop bothering us!

Title: Garden by The SaINT
Post by: Srethron Askvelhtnod on 2001-01-12 19:19:00

Hmmm, feeling a little... annoyed perhaps?  :D

Title: Garden by The SaINT
Post by: sENGzAI on 2001-01-13 12:20:00

don like that

Title: Garden by The SaINT
Post by: sENGzAI on 2001-01-13 12:25:00

be happy

Title: Garden by The SaINT
Post by: The Skillster on 2001-01-13 14:28:00

ok, but WHY are you using the debug version?
i posted the link to the release version!!
use that instead!!  8)

Title: Garden by The SaINT
Post by: CKtalon on 2001-01-13 15:31:00

how do u use the full version?

Title: Garden by The SaINT
Post by: The Skillster on 2001-01-13 17:43:00

AARRGGHH!
any way, youve got to have a full install of ff8,
then click on the new project/decompile button then point gardens to your ff8 dir, and then it will decompile ff8's data files, simple?

Title: Garden by The SaINT
Post by: sENGzAI on 2001-01-13 20:30:00

then ??? how to edit it ???

Title: Garden by The SaINT
Post by: Srethron Askvelhtnod on 2001-01-13 23:21:00

Fire up Garden, and drag and drop files into it, basically.

[This message has been edited by Srethron Askvelhtnod (edited January 13, 2001).]

Title: Garden by The SaINT
Post by: CKtalon on 2001-01-14 10:11:00

I run Garden.exe
There's no new project..
only open project/decompile/compile options...
That's all..so how?

Title: Garden by The SaINT
Post by: The Skillster on 2001-01-14 12:32:00

ahem (i think you know what im going to say :D ),
well then isnt garden supposed to EDIT FF8 DATA FILES!!!!
So wouldnt DECOMPILE be a simple choice (and the most obvious!!  :x )
puff. I think im gonna have to right page about HOW TO USE GARDEN, EVEN IF QHIMM MADE IT ONE OF THE EASIEST APPS TO EVER USE!!! (if qhimm made it then its gonna be easy to use, cause it aint got no instructions!!)
 :x anymore half hearted qustions about garden will be dealt with the same stiff lipped responce from me  :D! only post serious questions about garden!!

Title: Garden by The SaINT
Post by: ficedula on 2001-01-14 16:26:00

I_sense_hostility_(this_keyboard_has_NO_SPACE_BAR_and_it's_really_annoying_me._Think_I'll_switch_to_another_computer)

Title: Garden by The SaINT
Post by: sENGzAI on 2001-01-14 17:41:00

hmmm
i can decompile it , but how to change the text just like the screenshot by Qhimm ???

[This message has been edited by ksfung (edited January 14, 2001).]

Title: Garden by The SaINT
Post by: Srethron Askvelhtnod on 2001-01-14 23:23:00

The Skillster: Heh. I agree, but you're getting a bit too angry there feller.

Ficedula: Heh. Keyboard wore out?

ksfung: Heh. I'll let the Skillster handle that one. Oh, wait. Maybe he already did.   :wink:

[This message has been edited by Srethron Askvelhtnod (edited January 14, 2001).]

Title: Garden by The SaINT
Post by: ficedula on 2001-01-15 00:06:00

Uni machine. I just had to pick the one with no spacebar to log in on...

Title: Garden by The SaINT
Post by: The Skillster on 2001-01-15 01:04:00

ok, im cool now.
when you open your new project file (which you get after decompressing ff8), you will see the projects name in the list box to the left.
click it to open the folder and you should see a data or ff8 folder appear, now keep clicking ff8>data>field>eng> (i think) now you get a big list of folders, pick one  :D
they are all locations, eg bg (balamb garden) FH (fisherman horizon), now open that folder and youll see folders for all the locations in that area (aa, ab, ac ,etc) now open one, youll see a list of files in the box in the bottom left corner, find the one with a *.msd (dialog file) extention, d' click it to open it and viola!
you should see dialog on the right.
now after editing it, (if you wanna see your changes in ff8), save and recompile ff8 data files and fire up ff8

Title: Garden by The SaINT
Post by: Joey on 2001-01-15 12:41:00

umm.....why does garden report that it cant extract emx.obj and then when i browse no files can be selected for editing....help me
caps lock and shift not working.

Title: Garden by The SaINT
Post by: The Skillster on 2001-01-15 18:25:00

which version are you using? d or r?

Title: Garden by The SaINT
Post by: Srethron Askvelhtnod on 2001-01-15 22:08:00

Also, remember Garden is far from complete and loaded with bugs.

Title: Garden by The SaINT
Post by: Joey on 2001-01-16 11:29:00

The realease version, of course.

Title: Garden by The SaINT
Post by: CKtalon on 2001-01-16 13:43:00

SO..Garden is used only for editing message boxes?
Does it have any other uses like being able to view the background or field data or 3d models of Squall and co.?
If so...please tell me..Thanks!

Title: Garden by The SaINT
Post by: sENGzAI on 2001-01-16 15:11:00

 :)  :oops: :>

Title: Garden by The SaINT
Post by: Srethron Askvelhtnod on 2001-01-16 20:52:00

CKtalon: Yes, only text. Perhaps some crazy programmer will someday finish it, which would mean that there would be other features that aren't yet implemented (such as viewing 3D models, backgrounds, etc).

[This message has been edited by Srethron Askvelhtnod (edited January 16, 2001).]

Title: Garden by The SaINT
Post by: CKtalon on 2001-01-17 13:35:00

ah...too bad..

Title: Garden by The SaINT
Post by: Jedimark on 2001-01-18 16:36:00

Is there any way of just decompiling the text only? As I find that decompling takes up about 1gig of hard disk space!

Title: Garden by The SaINT
Post by: The Skillster on 2001-01-18 20:07:00

theres no other way around it.
besides if you just extract the dialog files, how are you going to recompile the whole archive to use it with ff8?
unless qhimm comes up with a ficedula style updating feature...

Title: Garden by The SaINT
Post by: Srethron Askvelhtnod on 2001-01-18 20:26:00

Unless he changes his mind, Qhimm's done with Garden. Maybe someday, someone else will continue the project.

Title: Garden by The SaINT
Post by: The SaiNt on 2001-01-19 11:16:00

Maybe I shouldnt have released the debug version. Some people here, are experiencing high blood pressure because of it.
BTW, we shuld switch to another topic title. This one is misleading, "Garden by The SaiNt".

Title: Garden by The SaINT
Post by: Joey on 2001-01-19 12:53:00

Awww. Sorry Saint.

Title: Garden by The SaINT
Post by: Srethron Askvelhtnod on 2001-01-19 20:39:00

The SaiNt: Well, it's not really that bad. It's just a tad annoying when someone posts a question, you answer, then someone else posts exactly the same question several lines below or even makes another thread about it. Still, not a big deal.

Title: Garden by The SaINT
Post by: Intel-Xeon on 2001-11-09 20:05:00

Ah. The ever-so popular Ficedula and Qhimm. I admire Ficedula because (s)he actually updates their site. Qhimm's just sits there with the same old content. Me and my friends have been waiting a year and a half for it to be updated. And nothing has happened. Please take this into consideration Qhimm.

Title: Garden by The SaINT
Post by: ficedula on 2001-11-09 20:15:00

Firstly, I'm a he. No offence taken, I guess I don't reveal much personal info :wink:

Secondly ... *how* old is this thread??! Don't see resurrections from this far back very often :wink:

Title: Garden by The SaINT
Post by: chowderhead on 2001-11-10 13:15:00

It is rather odd that you'd pick an old thread like this to begin posting in...

Fice:  I've always thought your nick was rather masculine-not that I dwell on those sorts of things.  Given that this forum is 97% male, I *usually* assume "non-gendered" nicks are male, unless otherwise stated.

Title: Garden by The SaINT
Post by: The Skillster on 2001-11-10 19:47:00

weve been getting quite a few re awakenenings of old posts (see the ff storyboard for some) u sure the posts are sorted in the right order :wink:

Title: Garden by The SaINT
Post by: Anonymous on 2001-11-22 08:18:00

Can someone link to the full version of Garden..the links seem to be not working.....
or send it by ICQ to 86804089

Title: Garden by The SaINT
Post by: Darkness on 2001-11-22 17:25:00

well, when a new person comes, this tends to happen.

Title: Garden by The SaINT
Post by: Darkness on 2001-11-22 17:26:00

hehe exactly 10 months from the last post, fice.

edit: when it was 'reactivated'.
[edited] 249 2001-11-22 18:26

Title: Garden by The SaINT
Post by: Qhimm on 2001-11-22 19:31:00

Every single time someone asks me about updating the page, I quote what is written there. I'm having problems with my ISP, so I can't update the site. Is that really so hard to comprehend, or is there a human urge to annoy people about obvious things?

Title: Garden by The SaINT
Post by: Jedimark on 2001-11-22 20:50:00

Well... Qhimm are you working on any of your programs at the moment?

Title: Garden by The SaINT
Post by: Darkness on 2001-11-22 21:37:00

Qhimm -> i think that people are noticing that its been 1 yr+, and theyre thinking that youve forgotten or something.

Title: Garden by The SaINT
Post by: Qhimm on 2001-11-23 00:18:00

In the little spare time I have, I do work on some of my programs. I won't tell you which, because I don't want to get anyone's hopes up. I also somehow find time to work out the new design and fiddle with the client-side processing thingys... and now with this new board, I'll have to re-do a lot of it
:isee:

Title: Garden by The SaINT
Post by: Goku7 on 2001-11-24 03:57:00

Quote

On 2001-01-14 12:26:00, ficedula wrote:
I_sense_hostility_(this_keyboard_has_NO_SPACE_BAR_and_it's_really_annoying_me._Think_I'll_switch_to_another_computer)

LOL!  Now there's something you don't hear everyday!  I had to use one like that back when I was learning some basic HTML at school's computer club.

(looks again at all the underscores in between the words and laughs hysterically....)
 :lol: :lol: :lol:

OK, OK, I'm over that now.

[edited] 239 2001-11-24 04:58

Title: Garden by The SaINT
Post by: The Skillster on 2001-11-24 07:35:00

WHO KEEPS BRINGING THIS TOPIC BACK UP TO THE TOP????

Title: Garden by The SaINT
Post by: ficedula on 2001-11-24 10:43:00

All the people who keep posting in it - so last time, that means *you*.

Eheh. 'Cept it's me now :grin:

Title: Garden by The SaINT
Post by: Goku7 on 2001-11-24 23:53:00

So, are one of the forum moderators gonna lock this topic yet, or are we gonna leave it open some more senseless reviving?
 :smile:

Title: Garden by The SaINT
Post by: ficedula on 2001-11-25 00:03:00

Qhimm's the only mod for this forum ... his call, not ours.

Title: Garden by The SaINT
Post by: CKtalon on 2001-11-26 02:32:00

I'm looking for Garden too
Any links?