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Miscellaneous Forums => Graphical => Topic started by: omega res novae on 2012-09-06 16:44:00
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beta is out
https://rapidshare.com/files/1568200506/knights of midgar 0.1.zip (https://rapidshare.com/files/1568200506/knights of midgar 0.1.zip)
im going to include as many models and characters to replace each individual knight. spread your thanks to leonhartgr and buster swd. i will make an installer similar to umi if i get good enough to make one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vP8SVSzKjA0&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vP8SVSzKjA0&feature=youtu.be)
cloud
apz freaks cloud and buster sword
apz freaks cloud with black soldier uniform and new face
grimmy's cloud
bloodshot's hi-res classic
weemus fmv cloud
millenias weapons
mikes weapons
slayernext's weapons
squallff8 cloud rebuilded
barret
asmodean facelift
jinkazama2k7 barret assault
jinkazama 2k7 final ac
jinkazama2k7original
kyo13 barrets cannon
megaten custom barret
timu sumisu barret
weemus fmv if available do not use until final release
tifa
bloodshots classic tifa
weemus fmv if available do not use until final release
grimmys jka tifa
aeris
megaten hq aeris
weemus fmv if available do not use until final release
mikes weapons
slayernexts weapons
yuffie
mikes weapons
weemus fmv if available do not use until final release
grimmys jka tifa
vincent
jinkazama2k7 vincent remodel
weemus fmv vincent do not use until final release
stickysock boots
cid
prp cid
weemus fmv cid will update when final release comes out
sephiroth
weemus fmv sephiroth do not use until final release
anifiga sephiroth
grimmy shirtless sephiroth
mikes weapons
zack
weemus fmv zack do not use until final release
prp field zack ?
apz buster sword
mikes weapons
slayers weapons
millenias weapons
as the list is being builded ill keep track of who has denied permission, granted permission, and also no response.
myself, buster swd, and leonhartgr will be working on this. if you wish to help itd be preferrable if you have a working understanding of kimera. just send me a pm
general public if i missed something in my list let me know through a post or pm. if youd like to offer suggestions go ahead. if youre going to shoot something down offer an alternative
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Um, yeah, this is pretty badass. Genius, in fact.
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I'm actually interested in how you did this. which file are you manipulating? how are you dealing with the animations?
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the magic lgp contains the files for all summons. the skeleton is a .d. open it with kimera switch the pieces, add textures, resize etc, then resave as modelname.d. the animation didnt change at all from knight01. i wont be changing animations much or at all if it can be avoided. simply placing characters in a spot where it looks natural
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so which Knight do you want to replace with wich? there are some obvious choices such as the spear knight and Cid, the magic knight and Aerith, the last big one Zack or Sephiroth, ( seph makes more sense )
I'd actually have to check all the knights but I think you might run into little problems
as a suggestion, if you can, make them use their ultimate weapons if they have any
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i think this is best bet based on the animation
1cloud
2cid keep the knights weapon spear
3vincent it kinda looks like the knight could be holding a pistol at the end
4tifa looking at just the hands could be an over head smash
5cloud
6cloud
7aeris
8cid keep the knight trident
9barret points his arm
10yuffie
11cloud
12cloud
13cloud
seph and zack in any cloud spot
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Open with Zack, nostalgia trip as he started the whole thing
cid sounds good,
third definitely holds a STAFF. it's a fire wiz. should be aerith
next one holds an axe, could be tifa
after that another sword knight, could be cloud ( maybe with a slightly edited suit as a 'young cloud' )
another axe, could be
a small staff, this could be vincent with his claw
another spear, could be substituted with yuffie and her shuriken
this one has some weird kind of weapon that resembles a staff as well. Could be aerith again
this one has a spear again
second to last one has a big axe
last one has yet another sword, should be cloud
big one should be septh
if you can get models to just use the knights weapons, then you wont have any trouble. I dunno if you can though
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well see how it turns out. there will be alot of brainstorming. im trying to fit in a character along with their weapon. vincent with a gun, barrett with gun arm, cid could use the nights weapons or his own, yuffie and shuriken.
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Personally I think using the knights weapons would look a lot cooler
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yes but after its said and done the summon will no longer be about the knights.
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I still say it would look cooler if they used the knights' weapons
simply because the weapons look good.
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only in few circumstances. cid is the only one that should use knights weapons. the other 6, not counting cait and red, have at least one model redone
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I wouldn't open with Zack, but it would definitely be awesome to end with him. I wouldn't use Sephiroth either. Since he's the main villian it would be weird to use it against him.
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Oooh.. Nice concept :mrgreen: !
Replacing summons isn't anything new, but this sounds interesting :wink:
So I guess the materia will sort of summon past characters or something, huh?
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i just think itd b cool to have characters summoned for the strongest attack. i will take into account all ideas. I can always expand this. But first release id like to have it as i envision. Im trying to learn how to make an installer. If this is really liked i can add on to it and try to make an installer like umi or the first tab of the bfe
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You could always make a first release where you use nothing but Cloud's model for every knight. It would have a bit of a Dragon Ball Z feel to it then.
Would also be fun to make a joke version of this with characters like Bugenhagen.
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I wouldn't open with Zack, but it would definitely be awesome to end with him. I wouldn't use Sephiroth either. Since he's the main villian it would be weird to use it against him.
in hindsight in agree with this
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Ya
You could always make a first release where you use nothing but Cloud's model for every knight. It would have a bit of a Dragon Ball Z feel to it then.
Would also be fun to make a joke version of this with characters like Bugenhagen.
ya i saw the youtube vid and that's what i thought as well......but boy it's gonna be a real chore renaming the model parts and substituting respectively. Moment i saw this vid i've been trying it out myself with the cloud battle model in the game...
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if u wanna help out on monday im free all day
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@archerxtreme I sent you the knight03 I replaced as Vincent . If you or someone else can fix the animation so as the model do not fall apart it would be awesome :)
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if you want to help in this post or pm me. its preferable that you have experience converting a battle model to a field model or something similar. this is the same thing essentially.
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(http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/8499/zackq.png) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/38/zackq.png/)
i liked how this one turned out. theres a black texture out and about on the internet for an old apz. i replaced the face in the image with the new texture. for knight 11 apz cloud in a black soldier uniform will be the default with the option to switch to the same model but with prp zack's head
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This is a very cool project. Can't wait to see the final product. Good luck guys!
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its coming along. check out knight 1, 3, 5, and 12. knight 12 will be able to be cloud instead if you prefer
http://youtu.be/vP8SVSzKjA0 (http://youtu.be/vP8SVSzKjA0)
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Awesome! Loved the vid, you guys are doing an amazing job with the swapping, keep it up!!
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what did you think of knight 3 vincent shooting the fire? i know that night still has a texture on it from the old weapon thats what that blue line is but there is alot of texture files. i havent found the right one yet to get rid of it
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I was just going to pm you about this. It seems to be a transparency...
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i figured it was a texture i could just delete and itd be good. i stll dont know for sure yet
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Good luck.Did apz gave you permission to his model yet?
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I think Vincent would be more suited to the Ice Knight and Aerith for the Fire one
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@buster swd not yet. but if we release and apz has an issue we can take it down and have it back up in less than an hour. i found that one a model is set up i can just switch the animation file and tweak the animation. for example apz cloud for knight 1. open save as knight12. take knight 12's animation. then just tweak animation.
@kuugen because of whats previously stated above we can move faster than i thought we would. on release ill include cloud models in all sword and club spots and give the option to use seph or zach. aeris on staves, and cid on spears and give the option for yuffie. ill throw barret, tifa, and vincent in any spots i can find that dont require a whole animation overhaul
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right now you put cloud twice in that video. Is it supposed to be like that? Or are you changing it in the future with another character?
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yes it should be like that
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Hey by the way...is there a way to change the name "Knights of the Round" in the battle interface to Things like "Knights of Midgar" or "Legions of Midgar"
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Hey by the way...is there a way to change the name "Knights of the Round" in the battle interface to Things like "Knights of Midgar" or "Legions of Midgar"
kernel 2 edit, easy
I called it Camelot for example
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just an update. were past halfway. im trying to learn how to make an installer for this. id like to include multiple models for each knight just to keep you all happy. couple limiting factors. i do not know how to remove the effects on the weapons of the knights like that blue trail so without using the original knights weapons some we look bad.
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personally speaking i'd rather not have it as an installer.....so if you can have an archive ready please dont chuck it away once the installer comes out.
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as soon as were done we'll post a link with all the models for manual install and it will stay up even after the installer is done. i myself do prefer a manual install as well. simply copying and pasting the models into the folder will leave behind files of the original knight like the cape and tails on the helms and things like that. it wont cause any issues because the models wont load them but it will take up space
the installer will provide these features/options. automated installation of the models, deleting files left behind by original knights, keeping original knight models, creating a backup of the magiclgp that can later be restored by rerunning the installer. eventually i will put in an option to change the characters weapons during the installation but this will not be a priority and will be added later.
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Music to my ears...er eyes..omega!
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Just a minor progress update:
Grimmy's Yuffie as knight10 progress
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Thumbs up for the hand ;)
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First I didn't understand why I received that mail... and now on the list of mods I see "Kyo13 Barrets Canon". it's pretty surprising to see something I made on another mod, since I don't have done a lot...
Concerning Barret's Canon I give you permission to use it BUT like I said on previous posts, this has been made using first part of canon on Timu's Barret battle model and textures are from Millenia. So I just use parts of their works to made it.
So I think their permissions are requiered. Anyway you have mine.
PS : I remember Timu gaving me permission to release Barret's Canon on Qhimm forums. But I didn't have any answer from Millenia. He didn't came here since a long time. So if you want his permission, I suggest you to contact him via his website (Argh I did'nt found it anymore).
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thanks. and i didnt know that. first release is probably going to be strictly cloud cid and aerith and more will be added later. i sent messages to just about everyone that did a model of any sort for main characters just so i could build a list of what i can use and what i cant
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I think we just have to be patient. Most of the time anyone that has created something on these forums don't mind if you use it in a different project, as long as they are credited for their work. This is a very cool project, can't wait to see it completed!
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tweaking the animation for knight 11 then have to do all of knight 13 then ill put out a beta today. itll have weeemus fmv cloud and cid. the dark and light texture for his buster blade. also mikes buster sword and ultima weapon
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Sorry I'm still on Yuffie. Progress update:
(http://imageshack.us/a/img560/1323/kimera096b2012092023591.png) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/560/kimera096b2012092023591.png/)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img840/5193/kimera096b2012092023592.png) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/840/kimera096b2012092023592.png/)
"slowly but surely finding her feet again in this lovely but loveless world" :P :P
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(http://imageshack.us/a/img269/374/kimera096b2012092121121.png) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/269/kimera096b2012092121121.png/)
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sorry for the wait. real life called. uploading a beta now. check the op for a link in 10-15 minutes. there isnt a model for knight 7 and 9 yet. ill continue working on this. again anyone is welcome to help out. just send me a pm
https://rapidshare.com/files/1568200506/knights of midgar 0.1.zip (https://rapidshare.com/files/1568200506/knights of midgar 0.1.zip)
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12 and 13's animation is very nice!!!
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all the animations are at least a little off. im no pro. i thought 12 turned out well also
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Sorry for the delay (sent to omega for animation):
(http://imageshack.us/a/img440/4995/kimera096b2012093022092.png) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/440/kimera096b2012093022092.png/)
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unless thats a lot of extra work, I suggest using the re-textured yuffie grimmy model
simply looks less weird
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ill get it on my end. i should be just a switch of a tex file. itll take 2 seconds
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That's what I thought... it's just a re-texture right? But is this Yuffie (http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=13703.0) the final version?
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That's what I thought... it's just a re-texture right? But is this Yuffie (http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=13703.0) the final version?
theres a bug with the weapons and that'll be a version 1.1 likely but other than that, it looks good and works fine so it's likely the final version
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So animation glitch is not fixed like reported in the current thread, or maybe this was something else? I find the eyes and mouth sooo tiny though. I commented about it in the current thread.
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how is the progress on this?
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not much. ill come back and add on to it. doing other things to give myself a break.
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So animation glitch is not fixed like reported in the current thread, or maybe this was something else? I find the eyes and mouth sooo tiny though. I commented about it in the current thread.
The model is fixed already, so far no bugs/issues have been reported so I'm making it my final release, I tried tweaking with the face but I just can't get it right, making the eyes and mouth larger makes the face weird..
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Hey, um, could someone reupload it. Rapidshare decided to take it down. :'(