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Title: ADVENT CHILDREN TRAILER!!!
Post by: Sephiroth2000 on 2003-10-13 07:46:14
Right click, then click save as...http://www.ffasylum.com/jesall/ff7ac01.mpg
Enjoy!
Title: ADVENT CHILDREN TRAILER!!!
Post by: Haruhiko on 2003-10-13 07:49:44
Server is too busy and you have to download it via BitTorrent. Left click: http://www.white-umbrella.org/video/ff7ac
Title: ADVENT CHILDREN TRAILER!!!
Post by: Sephiroth2000 on 2003-10-13 07:53:26
Quote from: Haruhiko
Server is too busy and you have to download it via BitTorrent. Left click: http://www.white-umbrella.org/video/ff7ac


I've just repaired link. :D
Title: ADVENT CHILDREN TRAILER!!!
Post by: Haruhiko on 2003-10-13 08:05:49
Nice!  :wink:
Title: ADVENT CHILDREN TRAILER!!!
Post by: vvalentine on 2003-10-13 08:07:00
Hey buddy, you could have added this to the topic about FF7 AC that already exists.  But HEY, not bad either, finally something good has come out of you (even if it was only 1 post out of 50 useless posts of yours).
Title: ADVENT CHILDREN TRAILER!!!
Post by: Caddberry on 2003-10-13 16:51:36
Thats awesome you added something to the community  :D Keep it up.. include your opinion on things like what you thought about the video and stuff..
Title: ADVENT CHILDREN TRAILER!!!
Post by: Sephiroth2000 on 2003-10-13 18:14:14
I thought it was cool. Was that OWA in the background?
Title: ADVENT CHILDREN TRAILER!!!
Post by: ye-roon on 2003-10-13 19:35:31
i think its a g000d movie :)

can't wait for it, and lets hope they release it in japanese with english subs :)
Title: ADVENT CHILDREN TRAILER!!!
Post by: Galadyn on 2003-10-13 20:05:16
I'll import it, and learn Japanese, if they don't. ;)
Title: ADVENT CHILDREN TRAILER!!!
Post by: Lieron on 2003-10-13 23:34:27
HA i'malready learning japanese lol
Title: ADVENT CHILDREN TRAILER!!!
Post by: Sephiroth2000 on 2003-10-14 03:58:01
Shots of AC in here:

http://sony.gamerfeed.com/gf/media/screens/2277/3/
http://sony.gamerfeed.com/gf/media/screens/2277/2/
http://sony.gamerfeed.com/gf/media/screens/2277/1/
http://www.gamingnexus.com/Screenshot.asp?ID=278&type=article
http://www.gamingnexus.com/Screenshot.asp?type=article&ID=279
http://www.gamingnexus.com/Screenshot.asp?type=article&ID=281
http://www.gamingnexus.com/Screenshot.asp?type=article&ID=282
http://www.gamingnexus.com/Screenshot.asp?type=article&ID=283
http://www.gamingnexus.com/Screenshot.asp?type=article&ID=284
http://www.gamingnexus.com/Screenshot.asp?type=article&ID=285
http://www.gamingnexus.com/Screenshot.asp?type=article&ID=286
http://www.gamingnexus.com/Screenshot.asp?type=article&ID=287
http://www.gamingnexus.com/Screenshot.asp?type=article&ID=288
http://www.gamingnexus.com/Screenshot.asp?type=article&ID=289
http://www.gamingnexus.com/Screenshot.asp?type=article&ID=292

Mods: Don't worry, I did ask first.

[EDIT]
A few more pictures...

http://www.rpgamer.com/games/ff/ff7ac/screens/ff7ac002.jpg
http://www.rpgamer.com/games/ff/ff7ac/art/ff7ac001.jpg

Yes, another[EDIT]
http://www.ffgon.com/images/ff7ac/logo.jpg
I know it's not much. Leave me alone :D

Guess what, it's an [EDIT]

http://www.bin.mypage.sk/FILES/trailerpic.bmp
I took that one from the trailer myself 8)
Title: ADVENT CHILDREN TRAILER!!!
Post by: Rubicant? on 2003-10-14 16:16:08
Good Job Seph, those were neat pics from the trailer. Good Job.
Title: ADVENT CHILDREN TRAILER!!!
Post by: Sephiroth2000 on 2003-10-15 06:52:09
Ok, i've just heard AC is issued for a mid-Summer 2004 release, will be 60 minutes long,  and will be in DVD only form(from what I have seen). Sorry, DVD-less peoples. :D
Also, who thinks that that guy in the wheelchair is Hojo, who releases the Starmark Syndrome(or whatever it it)when his son failed to destroy humanity, to do it for him so his craaaaazy son could rule the world?
Title: ADVENT CHILDREN TRAILER!!!
Post by: Rubicant? on 2003-10-15 07:01:47
You hear anything Seph about languages it will be in?
Title: ADVENT CHILDREN TRAILER!!!
Post by: Sephiroth2000 on 2003-10-15 07:05:30
Yeah. It will first be released in Japan, then will hopefully be imported around the world translated in the country's language. But, this is only what I have been told.
Title: ADVENT CHILDREN TRAILER!!!
Post by: Haruhiko on 2003-10-15 07:39:21
Uhm... I think the wheelchair-guy is ... uhm ... Don Corneo... or ... Rufus. How about Red XIII?  :lol:
Title: ADVENT CHILDREN TRAILER!!!
Post by: Rubicant? on 2003-10-15 08:23:23
I didnt play through most of 7 but is it possible that that is Jenova, Sephiroth's mother in a human form?  Because he looked really sad, (if i remember correctly)
Title: ADVENT CHILDREN TRAILER!!!
Post by: vvalentine on 2003-10-15 10:04:28
Things to say about the trailer and FF7 AC.

Is that really Sephiroth?  I mean, he looks like him, except for the short hair, or could he be some sort of reincarnation or something?  I also read that it's a sephiroth clone.

Sephiroth (assuming it's him) now has a 2 blade sword.

What is the Star Scar Syndrome?  Obviously, this has to do with the meteor summon.

Possible character in white robe, and on wheel chair:

Rufus -  In this pic http://www.gamingnexus.com/Screenshot.asp?type=article&ID=282, you can see the Shinra logo on the corner.  In the trailer you can see it more clearly.  Rufus liked to wear white, and he may have gotten paralyzed and burned after the diamond weapon's attack (thus wearing a robe covering his body).

The real Sephiroth - Can't think of any real reasons why, but it may be a possibility.

Jenova - I doubt it, but there is always a chance.

Hojo - He may have gotten hurt only.  Maybe, the guy in black is sephiroth after all and being his son, he may be helping him out.  Maybe hojo, made a clone of sephiroth, or tried to do an army of sephiroth's, or maybe it's not sephiroth or a sephiroth clone, but someone who also recieved Jenova's genes at birth, thus being like sephiroth.  And maybe this guy does treat Hojo as a father, or maybe it is his father.  Too many damn questions.


I am more inclined to believe that this story involves Hojo a lot.  Think about it.  Midgard is where his lab is (they're back in midgard), and as it seems back in the Shinra building or Mansion (both have Hojo's labs), this may explain seeing the Shinra logo in that room.  Maybe Hojo has something to do with the Star Scar Syndrome.


The guy in black is using magic, who knows which?  Maybe an enemy skill?

Can someone translate what they say in the trailer?
Title: ADVENT CHILDREN TRAILER!!!
Post by: Rubicant? on 2003-10-15 10:51:09
Here's an update but its not official

15.10.03 ,  11:54:29  News Admin

After having officially announced the exit of Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children in Japan, it would seem that Public garden-Enix wants to also leave the DVD to the USA Indeed, the editor deposited the name ' Advent Children' on last 10 July in the United States, nothing official for the moment.


And I read on a site that the short haired guy is Sephiroth's Son and that the person in the wheel chair is Sephiroth!
Title: ADVENT CHILDREN TRAILER!!!
Post by: vvalentine on 2003-10-15 10:56:22
That may be a possible answer too.  I just read something like that a short while ago.  But so far (it seems) that I'm the only one that has come up with the theory that it's Hojo the one in the wheelchair.  I think I'm going to stick with my theory, it just makes more sense to me.  Now, if only I can make bets, hmmm :-? .

Edit:  My bad, I found someone who has mentioned Hojo as the guy in the wheelchair.

Edit 2: Found out what the girl in the beginning says:

"That day, the power was used.  Therefore, the star now lives.  The humans have become the star, their souls among the star.  And I had thought it would all be over..."  (Translation Note: 'Star' may be referring to The Planet.)

Maybe the Star Scar Syndrome is another defense mechanism from the planet (because sephiroth or something related to Jenova is still alive).
Title: ADVENT CHILDREN TRAILER!!!
Post by: Rubicant? on 2003-10-15 11:18:26
That's weird, I heard that someone translated some japanese thing that said that it was indeed Sephiroth in the wheelchair... Well!!! We'll just have to wait and see!!!!!!!
Title: ADVENT CHILDREN TRAILER!!!
Post by: vvalentine on 2003-10-15 11:21:26
Nope, it is not confirmed yet.  Nothing is official yet, and I don't think square would want to give out it's major shocker.

This some other translated stuff:

"I want to forgive you, but I can't forgive you," Cloud says while standing in front of a grave that appeared out of nowhere.  (In Asian countries, a sword out of the ground symbolizes where its wielder died.)  "Your death has been decided."
Title: ADVENT CHILDREN TRAILER!!!
Post by: Contra on 2003-10-15 11:21:45
My immediate thought was also Hojo. But I try not to figure out stories before I see them. If I'm wrong, I just get frustrated. If I'm right... Well, where's the fun twist then??
Title: ADVENT CHILDREN TRAILER!!!
Post by: Rubicant? on 2003-10-15 11:35:41
I didn't play FF VII that much, who is Hojo again??  EEK! Don't smack me!!  I'm sorry I got somewhat through it and then my save file just vansished, and I was not gonna start all over again.  I might someday because it was a really good play.  Was he the head of Shinra?  I truely forgot...It's been a while...
Title: ADVENT CHILDREN TRAILER!!!
Post by: Galadyn on 2003-10-15 11:40:19
Evil-mad-scientist-type.
Title: ADVENT CHILDREN TRAILER!!!
Post by: vvalentine on 2003-10-15 11:42:43
Quote from: Golbez
I didn't play FF VII that much, who is Hojo again??  EEK! Don't smack me!!  I'm sorry I got somewhat through it and then my save file just vansished, and I was not gonna start all over again.  I might someday because it was a really good play.  Was he the head of Shinra?  I truely forgot...It's been a while...


*smack in the back of the head*.  Hojo, Shinra's top scientist, in charge of the Jenova project.  Father of Sephiroth.  Go back and play the game.
Title: ADVENT CHILDREN TRAILER!!!
Post by: Rubicant? on 2003-10-15 11:47:01
I dont think I got to that part.  I don't think I got to the part where Sephiroth messes with Jenova.  And I said "DONT HIT ME."  Geez...
Title: ADVENT CHILDREN TRAILER!!!
Post by: ye-roon on 2003-10-15 13:20:21
maybe nori can translate some if u ask her nicely :p
Title: ADVENT CHILDREN TRAILER!!!
Post by: The Skillster on 2003-10-15 18:02:09
lol maybe
i heard she has mid term tests at the moment tho
Title: ADVENT CHILDREN TRAILER!!!
Post by: Sephiroth2000 on 2003-10-15 19:06:28
Please can you translate some of that trailer, Nori? Pleeeeeze?
Title: ADVENT CHILDREN TRAILER!!!
Post by: Qhimm on 2003-10-15 22:58:15
A translation of the trailer:

Quote from: Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children trailer
Little girl:

もう何も起こらないと思っていたのに
We though it was all over, but...

Cloud:

俺は許されたいんだと
Is it forgiveness I want?

うん…俺は許されたい。
...Yes. I want to be forgiven.

Cloud:

お前の分までいきよう
I will live for both of us —

そう決めたんだけど。
that's what I decided.

With reservations for minor errors  :)

Also, here's the latest working link (http://fftheme.lowerego.net/media%20zone/movies/final%20fantasy/ff7_ac_xplay.zip) for the trailer (with voices).

EDIT: Oh, but where are my manners? I forgot proper credits! This translation was brought to you through a joint linguistic venture of Nori and Qhimm. ^_^
Title: SNIFF
Post by: Nori on 2003-10-15 23:01:46
*Sniff* I worked on it too...
Title: ADVENT CHILDREN TRAILER!!!
Post by: Aaron on 2003-10-15 23:05:09
Good job, both of you...
I was digging around for a link and I found a few bad ones, so I thought I'd provide one in case the link above goes bad (http://aaronserv.dyndns.org/!!stuff/qhimm/ff7_ac_xplay.mpg) (right-click and "Save Target As...").

I'm also downloading a 43 MB version through BitTorrent, hoping it'll be better quality... does anyone already have it / know if it is worth getting?
Title: ADVENT CHILDREN TRAILER!!!
Post by: Caddberry on 2003-10-15 23:59:36
Thx both of you from the non japanese reading members of this board i am sure we all thank you :)
Title: ADVENT CHILDREN TRAILER!!!
Post by: Aaron on 2003-10-16 02:33:54
I'm pretty sure that Nori and Qhimm won't mind that I created a version of the trailer with English subtitles (http://aaronserv.dyndns.org/!!stuff/qhimm/ff7ac_translated.mpg)... it was Mofokubik's idea, and I think its kinda convenient.
Title: ADVENT CHILDREN TRAILER!!!
Post by: Sephiroth2000 on 2003-10-16 05:18:17
Quote from: Caddberry
Thx both of you from the non japanese reading members of this board i am sure we all thank you :)



Definately. Thankyou, Nori and Qhimm. :D
BTW You have to check out the subtitled version Aaron posted. It's the best thing when you don't wanna translate it. Of course, you could always run the original and use the translation Nori and Qhimm posted. Thanks again!
Title: ADVENT CHILDREN TRAILER!!!
Post by: Caddberry on 2003-10-16 05:45:25
Quote from: Aaron
I'm pretty sure that Nori and Qhimm won't mind that I created a version of the trailer with English subtitles (http://aaronserv.dyndns.org/!!stuff/qhimm/ff7ac_translated.mpg)... it was Mofokubik's idea, and I think its kinda convenient.


Very pimp i just downloaded it .. Nice! Its really cool how it was all kind of a group effort.. Its really neat how people help each other out on this board even without being asked like Aaron going that extra step and taking some time to do that.. and Qhimm & Nori for translation.. Awesome work.. I think thats why the board kicks so much ass..
Title: ADVENT CHILDREN TRAILER!!!
Post by: ye-roon on 2003-10-16 11:08:49
i'm DL-ing subbed one now, and many thx nori and qhimm :)
Title: ADVENT CHILDREN TRAILER!!!
Post by: Lieron on 2003-10-16 22:55:35
aye same, DLING and i hope it looks good heh
Title: ADVENT CHILDREN TRAILER!!!
Post by: Sephiroth2000 on 2003-10-17 02:28:45
My subbed one looks crap, back to the old drawing board... :(
Title: ADVENT CHILDREN TRAILER!!!
Post by: sENGzAI on 2003-10-19 05:41:06
really a nice movie
Title: ADVENT CHILDREN TRAILER!!!
Post by: Sephiroth2000 on 2003-10-19 18:20:49
Tell me about it. I was blown back to hell(sarcasm :D )when I first saw it. But what has SquareEnix done with the characters? Sephiroth looks more like a girl now... :roll:
Title: ADVENT CHILDREN TRAILER!!!
Post by: ye-roon on 2003-10-19 20:36:56
seph2k, thats called ANIME, and do not mess with anime, capice?
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Post by: Caddberry on 2003-10-19 21:09:19
Androgny is sexy IMHO.. I like the way the guys look when they arent arnold scwartzenneger <~~ whatever ) and can still kick ass..
Title: ADVENT CHILDREN TRAILER!!!
Post by: Sephiroth2000 on 2003-10-20 06:48:39
I don't despise anime, it's cool, but I was making a point of saying Sephiroth is/has:
Title: ADVENT CHILDREN TRAILER!!!
Post by: Rubicant? on 2003-10-21 03:05:34
Hey Seph2000?  When you are talking about Sephiroth looking like a girl, are you referring to the guy that is fighting Cloud in the trailer?  For one, that's not Sephiroth.  From what I've what heard, it's actually his son.  Thought I'd add my 2 sense.  But I might not even be talking about what you are talking about.
Title: ADVENT CHILDREN TRAILER!!!
Post by: Caddberry on 2003-10-21 03:38:06
i think he's talking about the scene with the fire.. & he does kinda look like a girl..
Title: ADVENT CHILDREN TRAILER!!!
Post by: Sephiroth2000 on 2003-10-21 05:32:32
Quote from: Golbez
Hey Seph2000?  When you are talking about Sephiroth looking like a girl, are you referring to the guy that is fighting Cloud in the trailer?  For one, that's not Sephiroth.  From what I've what heard, it's actually his son.  Thought I'd add my 2 sense.  But I might not even be talking about what you are talking about.

No, Caddberry is right, I was referring to the fire scene.
Title: ADVENT CHILDREN TRAILER!!!
Post by: Rubicant? on 2003-10-21 16:06:45
ohoh ok... i see what your talking about then... yeah he kinda does..
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Post by: Lieron on 2003-10-22 03:28:34
i saw a girl crossplaying as sephiroth once... and let me tellyou it wasnt a bad one either )
Title: ADVENT CHILDREN TRAILER!!!
Post by: Sephiroth2000 on 2003-10-22 05:34:17
Quote from: Lieron
i saw a girl crossplaying as sephiroth once... and let me tellyou it wasnt a bad one either )


I've seen one too, but she looked awful :o
Title: ADVENT CHILDREN TRAILER!!!
Post by: Rubicant_II on 2003-10-22 10:59:04
They all look like friggin' girls. The only two people in FF7 that looked like real men were cid and barret. When it comes to real masculinity in the FF series, it's really quite uncommon. There's probably been about 5 total real men since the beginning of the 3d versions of the games. Just take a look at Squall.

(http://kucoru.dyndns.org/squababa.png)

He is a total baba babushka. He looks like he is off to the market now to buy some bread for the whole family. Squall may be cool for some parts, but he whines constantly about petty problems in the past and somehow he manages to be a constant jerkoff at all times. Ladyboy!!!

Now, Zidane. That boy dun eat right. I have never seen someone who has more girly-girly arms in any FF game. He couldn't lift a tree to save his own life.

(http://kucoru.dyndns.org/zidane-skinny.png)

An even better example of this is Kuja. But I don't think you need to imagine why the girly-girliness exists with him.

(http://www.ffcompendium.com/~Skylark/ff9/Kuja.gif)

So there you have it. My point isn't as strong as it may seem, but I think I have something here. Girls can easily cosplay as male characters from FF games because the male characters obviously somewhat look like girls. Or else the girls cosplaying look like men. Either way, ewww.
Title: ADVENT CHILDREN TRAILER!!!
Post by: Cyrus XIII on 2003-10-22 16:07:52
I wonder how someone can seriously complain about the androgyne looking characters in the newer Final Fantasy games. Yoshitaka Amano has done the designs for FF 1-6 & 9 (7&8 being most likely influenced by his work as well) and what we got in the PlayStation era was merely more technically advanced, so the ingame graphics were able to mimic Amano's style more truthfully.
Title: ADVENT CHILDREN TRAILER!!!
Post by: Caddberry on 2003-10-22 21:11:54
I'm gonna go way out on a limb here, and i will probably get flamed.. There is nothing wrong with feminine looking guys.. In fact most of the women that i have been with dig that.. They dont really want big muscles or some macho chauvinist.. Females find androgynous looking males sexy.. Some do some dont.. But in all seriousness what is wrong with it? I thought Kuja looked pretty damn smooth in IX..

edit..

Spelling
Title: ADVENT CHILDREN TRAILER!!!
Post by: Rubicant_II on 2003-10-22 23:51:22
I was joking, y'all

And yes, macho chauvinistic guys bother me. Flaming morons.
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Post by: Lieron on 2003-10-23 03:26:01
yeah... called bishounen for anime )
Title: ADVENT CHILDREN TRAILER!!!
Post by: Cyrus XIII on 2003-10-23 03:57:33
Quote from: Rubicant_II
I was joking, y'all

And yes, macho chauvinistic guys bother me. Flaming morons.

So it was our fault, that we didn't get your irony or was it your's, 'cause you probably did not make it clear enough ?
Title: ADVENT CHILDREN TRAILER!!!
Post by: Rubicant_II on 2003-10-23 16:21:50
It doesn't matter whether it is anyone's fault or not. I think it was fairly clear that I was trying to be funny considering I made a picture of squall in a baba babushka outfit. That stuff is pure gold! If you're wondering where the "flaming morons" thing came from, I was referring to how stupid those macho men out there are.

I don't care if the characters look feministic. Did I seem like I was totally complaining about how much I hate it? No. I was poking fun at the entire concept of making male characters looking like girls. Sure, it can be hard to tell seriousness from sarcasm sometimes, but this really isn't the case. I was clearly making an observation and making fun..in other words trying to get you guys to find it funny.

I shouldn't have to explain myself anymore over a simple joke. Fuck, everything I say is always blown out of proportion.
Title: ADVENT CHILDREN TRAILER!!!
Post by: Stormy on 2004-02-28 18:19:45
Further ideas in the sepheroth son theory.
If you look on the ff7 ac xplay movie between seconds 52 and 55, you will see that the younger gray-haired man is looking up into the face of the person in the wheelchair, then the movie fades into sepheroth's face.  Could the younger man be looking into his father's eyes?
Title: ADVENT CHILDREN TRAILER!!!
Post by: Sephiroth2000 on 2004-02-28 23:52:17
Could be ;)
PS I think someone's broken the ressurection rule  :)