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Releases / Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] New Threat Mod (v2.0.9997)

« on: 2024-01-20 00:16:41 »

Hi Sega Chief,

I have a quick question regarding

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the battle where you play as Zack in his last stand.

Is the battle winnable or do the enemies keep coming endlessly until you lose? Also if it is winnable, is there a reward to winning or is it just bragging rights?

It's just for bragging rights, the fight was originally going to loop infinitely but I decided to just make it close off after the final wave.

Thank you for your very thorough answer! Much appreciated. Combat Only sounds perfect for me then, since I haven't ever finished the game.

When I tried to run the game from 7th Heaven just now, I get an error that says 60 fps animations for New Threat 2.0 requires you to activate New Threat 2.0 as well, but I have New Threat Combat Only enabled already, so it seems that for some reason the 60 fps mod won't work with Combat Only. Any ideas?

Unsure, it's probably an ID thing and expecting the regular version rather than the variant. I'll look into it.

Anyone else game freeze when using chronocure? I thought it was part of the spell or something first time i used it having chrono in the name lol, but that game stayed frozen..could hear me getting attacked in the backround though and to force close the game.

Sounds like an issue with the attack animation; on its own it should be fine, but maybe there's another mod or some tweak to the way the game renders graphics that has caused this one to malfunction. It's a very rare attack animation in the base game from what I remember (used by Tonberries), so it maybe slipped the net.

Anyone looking to use mods on a Steam Deck, this https://github.com/dotaxis/7thDeck worked perfectly for me.

I'm new to registering, but I've been following this site and this mod on and off for a very long time. I've never really been a PC gamer, though, so being able to play modded FFVII portably is a dream come true.

Having a blast so far. It's astounding the amount of work and dedication you've put into this, Sega Chief. I'm glad you're still around after all these years. I'm up to Junon at the moment. I think the innates thing is pretty neat, and I like the switch-up you've done with materia and equipment, definitely playing in a different way due to it. Looking forward to what's to come!

Cheers; good to hear it works on steam deck.

I've installed the Combat Only mod and I can't find an explanation anywhere on the only configurable item: what is "New Thread Mod - Core Files" for? Is this something that enables the mod? Like do I need to enable the mod and then enable this as well?

It's just an internal thing; IROs need ID'd flags within other IROs to toggle options, etc. I just left it in for that. It is a bit redundant as the IRO itself has a toggle on the library page, but I didn't want to cause unforeseen compat issues by removing it.

hi i want to know if  "only combat version" of new threat 2.0 keeps classes and sp system. i am doing a second playtrough and i dont wanna change too much. but i want a revigorate battle system, since documentation links its not avaible anymore.

thanks.

It has all of NT's changes to the battle system, but as SP is handled through field script this part isn't in there I'm afraid.

@ Sega Chief. Love what you have done with the game.

Question: The documentation in the mod files says there is an Added Effect Materia hidden somewhere in Great Glacier. I have searched and searched. Got any hints on where to find it?

Thanks, I'll hang up and listen.

It's on this field:

Hey Sega Chief, not sure what's up, could be a bug, but the version I'm on (2.09973) Cid's Big Brawl limit on Schizo and some other enemies in Great Glacier does nothing, no damage, it doesn't even make a sound effect.

There's a visual bug with that Limit Break on the steam version; it won't display damage numbers correctly and has other visual/audio bugs. It's not NT-related.


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I've put together a Vanilla Combat variant of the mod, for people who want the default game's battles & character equipment, etc. It should be on the catalog now, but a link is here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1sLdMU0QDFnDDrT8z1KvTPdqYmUaLN-va/view?usp=sharing

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Releases / Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] New Threat Mod (v2.0.9997)

« on: 2023-12-31 20:21:53 »

Hi! I'm having trouble finding clear information on the exact differences between 2.0, Combat Only, and Vanilla Combat. Can someone explain these?

Also, I've never finished FFVII before, so I'm looking for an experience that's fairly similar to vanilla, but I do like to be moderately challenged, and it sounds like the vanilla game is too easy on its own. I've read, however, that in New Threat 2.0, while the difficulty is better balanced, physical attacks are nerfed to the point of being underpowered, forcing you to rely mostly on magic, which to me sounds like a downgrade, being that not all playstyles are viable. Can anyone speak to whether or not this is true?

While I like the idea of the improved script, new events/dialogue, character specific abilities, Source upgrades, QoL improvements and new limit requirements, I don't want the items, materia, and enemy skills moved around in my game where I can't find them. Is it possible to have the former without the latter? Thank you!

Edit: I'm also wondering, when you open the configure mod menu for New Threat Combat Only on 7th Heaven, there's an option that simply says Choose, and a toggle for on and off, however I cannot find an explanation in the readme or anywhere else. What does this mean?

Final thing, does the 6030 FPS mod work with Combat Only?

I personally find physical attacks to be just as viable but there's probably more ways to do more damage with magic; the trick is to try and equip armour, accessory, and Materia to push their Strength and Luck stats. I think I adjusted things like enemy defences and spell strengths for the late-game a little to try and counteract it a bit.

These are the two derivatives from the full mod:
*) Combat Only: Only the battle balancing is included (enemy strength & character equipment, spells, etc.), the field scripting, story text, item placement, events, etc. are all vanilla. Any new enemies added for NT are also removed. For people who want the combat rebalancing stuff but not the other stuff I've added. 2.0 has this variant. It can be used as a compatibility option with mods that adjust field scripting, though it may not be 100%.

*) Vanilla Combat: The opposite of the above; all the new field scripting, events, item placements, etc. for NT are included but all of the enemy encounters and character equipment, etc. is vanilla. For people who want the extra stuff, but not the battle rebalancing. 2.0 doesn't have this variant (the 1.5 build has it), but I'm planning to make this for 2.0 soon.

As for item placements & enemy skills, they're mostly the same with a few exceptions; Matra Magic is still learned from Custom Sweepers outside Midgar, for instance. There's a download I have on this thread that contains documentation which lists where everything is (or at least, one location for it) if that helps.

The 30/60 FPS mod should work with Combat Only; enable both the 60fps IRO and the 60FPS NT IRO like you would for the full mod.

The IRO text on the options isn't super clear, but I did an update to NT CO today that hopefully makes it a little clearer; it's just an internal thing so that it applies the files, and should be left On.

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Releases / Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] New Threat Mod (v2.0.9997)

« on: 2023-10-23 14:43:47 »

Hi SegaChief, Could Fast-Travel to cities through NPC be a thing? In Highwind for example.

Might be awkward as the highwind's location might end up somewhere inaccessible. I think it's fairly fast to reach places with the airship as-is, especially if there's a choco on board to cover any remaining distance like to Icicle Inn.

Hello again, Sega Chief.

I had an idea recently, It´s about weapons and armors. What about to add more options to buy? For example: "Mythril Saber" has these attributes:

* Mythril Saber I
Mag+10, Spr+30 - 3 Slots.

What about to add a second "Mythril Saber" in sell with another attributes, for example:

* Mythril Saber II
Mag+5, lck+5, Spr+10 - 4 Slots.

The same idea could be apply for the armors. So, with this every user can buy a weapon according to their strategy.

Thank you for the last update.

I don't have space to add weapon derivatives, the kernel (as it is) is quite restrictive in terms of equipment slots. If it's ever expanded though by an external mod though, then would definitely look into it.


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Minor update was made to NT and NTCO to add identifiers and fix some XML compat flags.

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Releases / Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] New Threat Mod (v2.0.9997)

« on: 2023-10-16 21:25:31 »

Howdy howdy~

I was thinking of doing yet another playthrough of this, but I thought I'd ask and see if there's any particularly large or important content updates coming any time soon first, just in case.

Nothing major in the works atm.

Hey folks. I'm trying to troubleshoot a new threat 2.0. I've played it before but for some odd reason, the seventh heaven mod doesn't seem to recognize it. Here's what I've done so far.

I've uninstalled/reinstalled the mod through seventh heaven.
Uninstalled and reinstalled Seventh heaven.
Ran only New Threat 2.0 but the game doesn't recognize or prompt me to select my game mode.

I can get a New threat 1.5 to work through Seventh Heaven, but I'm having no luck with 2.0. Can anyone help point me in the right direction to fix this?

There was an issue I've just sorted where the mod.xml was wrong, causing the mod to not be activated. It should be resolved now (v2.099972).

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Releases / Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] New Threat Mod (v2.0.9997)

« on: 2023-10-08 22:40:55 »

Mod updated to 2.09997, and the Combat Only version was also updated (within the IRO catalog).

Patch notes

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2.09997
*) Materia in North Cave Left-Down path that required to be picked up during a jump sequence can now just be picked up from the ground
*) Adjusted conditions for Biggs, Wedge, Jessie to not be visible on the train during Type B
*) Added information about the buggy when acquiring it, including that it can be boarded onto the Cargo Ship in Costa Del Sol.
*) Added an opportunity to save the game after Reactor No.5
*) Adjusted Cait's appearance condition in Costa Del Sol to prevent him appearing before recruitment
*) Changed triggers for examining the vent in the train tunnels; an issue where the Type A route could be blocked under certain conditions
*) Fixed an issue where an item could be picked up repeatedly from Floor 65's conference room
*) Removed debug NPC from the Highwind
*) Morph damage modifier changed to 30% of regular attack damage (credit to PostScriptThree)
*) Bottomswell range-row set to normal

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Releases / Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] New Threat Mod (v2.0.9996)

« on: 2023-10-08 14:39:00 »

The quote function only goes back so many posts, so-

@Dorklord

1. I'd add a rename for red XIII but I think doing so resets all their spent sources, so it can't be done safely

2. That ribbon is the only one available in the game; the NPC on the highwind was a debug NPC that used to fix problems that came up, and I left that one on there for a long time as players would sometimes not get the outcome they wanted. I'll be removing it from the next upcoming patch though.

3. Fort Condor rewards are a bit odd; the script is a bit jumbled and I think it starts to repeat rewards at some point.

4/5. I'm going to try lifting Morph damage this patch, PostScriptThree located the modifier for it.

6. I adjusted selling prices recently but I thought all those weapons were locked to the north crater; I think it should be fine though so I'll leave it as is.


@Kevinhb7p
If it says Magic, then it's using the magic damage formula and should use the Magic stat.

Sega chief,

Thanks so much for making such an awesome mod, I played it through a few months ago and loved it!

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 Earlier today I showed it to a friend that speedruns the game and we tried guard skip in it. I love the weird extra scene that plays when you meet aerith ‘it begins’ but I was wondering if there was anything else to expect along with it? I was coming up with all kind of theories about how there might be a ‘snowgrave route’ with dialogue/events in sector 7 slums potentially changing due to events at reactor 5 (cloud not being present) going differently. But it didn’t look like anything else was added. Is this right? (Before I spend hours trying to work out the cryptic message!)

We made it back to 7th heaven after the tournament but the only thing that seems to change is a buggy situation where Tifa is present near the bar and talking to barret soft locks the game. You can still continue by meeting Marlene though. FYI: we took the 1.5k payment previously before doing the skip 

Not much happens with that, it was just to mess with the player a bit.


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I've taken a note of the bugs, etc. people have mentioned and the documentation link being busted; will have these within the new patch.

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Releases / Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Lv.1 Challenge Mod (2014-04-18)

« on: 2023-08-30 09:31:43 »

power ,magic sources etc work fine  in this mod or is disabled?

I checked, and it looks like they're still available to use and can still be obtained from enemies.

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Releases / Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] New Threat Mod (v2.0.9996)

« on: 2023-08-23 18:11:14 »

2.09996 is up:

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2.09996
*) Fixed issue where some fields had a corrupted tilemap (unused chunk), which would affect non-7h users
*) Descriptions of 'Blocks KO' changed to 'Blocks Insta-KO'
*) Fixed text strings and updated changes to the triple slots option (IRO only)
*) Made the junction in Junon weapon raid as Barret less easy to escape from (disabled walkmesh triangles for left/right exits)
*) Cleaned up key pickup during gas chamber scene (Type B scene remnant)

If there are any instances of fields not loading, let me know; I can at least fix them now.

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Releases / Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] New Threat Mod (v2.0.9995)

« on: 2023-08-23 15:25:08 »

I've identified the source of the crashing fields and why it was likely only affecting the installer variant and not the 7th heaven one. Will update the mod in a patch later tonight and explain what it was (in short, one of the unused chunks in the field had gotten massive in size, likely an error when the file was being saved where excess data was stored to it).

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Releases / Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] New Threat Mod (v2.0.9995)

« on: 2023-08-23 11:34:26 »

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Bit disconcerting that the exit points would end up like that for those screens; I'll take a look at them.

Updating the Mod: The new version of the mod (2.09995) has retired the installer and is now distributed as a folder that you need to drop into your Final Fantasy VII installation directory. This should help avoid issues with corrupted fields or screens. You can simply replace your existing mod files with the new version's files by overwriting them.

New Random Encounters: The mod's creator mentioned that there weren't many new random mob encounters added in version 2.0, unlike version 1.5. You mentioned encountering Ziegfriend outside of Fort Condor, which might be one of the new random encounters. It's possible that there are other new encounters you might come across.

Morph Damage Reduction: The Yuffie's weapon "Conformer" is mentioned as a weapon that can override the 1/8 damage reduction from the Morph command. Using Conformer might allow you to deal full damage when using the Morph command.

Casting Esuna for Sadness Alignment: The spell Esuna is used to cure various status ailments such as Sleep, Poison, Confuse, and more. It doesn't cure Sadness alignment. Sadness alignment is a status that reduces the damage you take from physical attacks. To remove Sadness, you can use spells like Tranquilizer or items like Remedy.

Whirlwind Maze Issues: The mod creator acknowledges a few issues with the Whirlwind Maze section of the game:

The green wave element on the second screen might have a visual bug where it's jittering left and right, making it difficult to dodge.
The win fanfare doesn't play after dodging battles on all three screens; the battle music continues until you're back on the field screen.
Cloud getting knocked forwards instead of backwards when hit during the dodging sequences.
Junon Escape Key Issue: In version 2.09992 of the mod, there's a change to combine Type A and Type B routes in Junon, but the key part of the scene from Type B wasn't removed. This led to inconsistencies in the key retrieval scene. This issue was likely addressed in version 2.09995.

Progression Block Issue: A player reported encountering a black screen issue when entering a loading zone after defeating Jenova Death, handing over the Black Materia to Barret, and saving the game. The mod creator noted that there were issues with corrupted fields in the installer. In version 2.09995, the installer has been retired and replaced with a simple folder-based installation to address this issue.

Not sure what this post is, a summary of previous questions and replies? The scene inconsistency with the key during the junon weapon raid is still there, it's a leftover from the Type B route that I'll clean up for next patch. The whirlwind maze screen seemed to still be crashing for non-7h users so I imported a copy of the field from an older build of the mod and updated the 2.09995 installer/drop-in with it.

While this method did work for Wonder Square and Chocobo Square, it didn't seem to work for Whirlwind Maze for a user that I was doing tests with; importing a vanilla field screen didn't seem to fix it either and testing with their save file didn't replicate the freeze on my end. I'll probably bring the installer back as it doesn't seem to be responsible for the intermittent field-screen problems after all, but the actual cause is still unknown. I'll probably do a fresh install of the steam version and try running the installer against it, maybe there's something from 7h or FFNx running in the background when I play via Steam that's preventing the crash for whatever reason.

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Releases / Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] New Threat Mod (v2.0.9995)

« on: 2023-08-21 00:47:31 »

Quick question. Am I the only one who's having trouble installing v.2.0.9995? Until now, I was updating my old version in the FF7 SYW launcher with the installer. Since copy-pasting the 2.0.9995 files makes the entire launcher crash, I changed my steam game's language to English and tried updating it with the new process (dropping the contents of the new threat folder directly in my install directory), but it keeps starting the Vanilla version of the game...

I uploaded an installer here, with the fresh import on the whirlwind maze field: https://mega.nz/file/boMjTZYS#i1Vzu07SFArJ864lKr-xU5PQxnsFL8eTQ_fSF2KNAWA

I have a question that I'm sure has been asked before in this thread, but it has so many pages to it that I don't think I'll be able to find it by manually searching, haha.

Loving the mod, been looking for something that gives a reasonable increase to the difficulty and when I learned about the Type B playthrough and the scenario changes it makes I was eager to give it a shot. I just beat the Jenova fight in Northern Crater in disc 2, and I was wondering what the music that plays in the boss fight is. I'm very familiar with FF7, or I'd like to think to seeing as how I've played it since I was a kid, but the song sounded unfamiliar, and scanning through the official OST didn't yield results. I'm probably just missing it and it's super obvious, but what's the title of the song, and can I listen to it on YouTube since it's a total banger?

I think it's the one that plays during the North Crater field screens, Judgment Day I think: https://youtu.be/kqIJqvMqLTQ

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Releases / Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] New Threat Mod (v2.0.9995)

« on: 2023-08-20 21:12:14 »

If I put the Cursed Ring on Tifa, when the timer counts down her innate is activated, as expected. However, this happens even if I cast Death Force on her: not sure if that's intended. Also, after that she can't be Death Sentenced anymore.
(Edit: I was assuming Death Force would protect against the Cursed Ring's effect, but I just found it doesn't)

Aeris can use Cid's Scimitar. It's pretty cool, but I'm not sure if that's something you did intentionally.

I confirm that the path on the bottom right isn't blocked off, although I didn't explore it so I never found the bug Vineos did.

There's some strange interactions between tifa's innate, death sentence, and I think Death Force but it is what it is.

Yeah, I set Aeris up to use some of Cid's later weapons so she'd have a few extra.

I'm trying to figure out the path thing atm.

Hi Sega,
Got another question on 1.5. Is there a 1/35 Soldier item questline here? I saw a few posts about these items being the only possible missable items in 1.5 so just wanted to be sure.

I don't think there is.

Quick question. Am I the only one who's having trouble installing v.2.0.9995? Until now, I was updating my old version in the FF7 SYW launcher with the installer. Since copy-pasting the 2.0.9995 files makes the entire launcher crash, I changed my steam game's language to English and tried updating it with the new process (dropping the contents of the new threat folder directly in my install directory), but it keeps starting the Vanilla version of the game...

I guess there's something different with how the installer interacts with the files vs. the direct transfer; if I had to guess, it's maybe the .EXE files. Swapping to direct file transfer I don't think sorted the issue out anyway, as I had to do a fresh import of the whirlwind maze field anyway, so I'll return the installer and just do a field import for any other screens that are busted as they appear.

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Releases / Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] New Threat Mod (v2.0.9995)

« on: 2023-08-19 23:14:15 »

It should be in either:

\FINAL FANTASY VII\save

or for Steam:

E:\Documents\Square Enix\FINAL FANTASY VII Steam\user_xxx

The contents of those folders should do it, then I can have a look.

As for transferring it over, anything like google drive, mediafire, mega.nz, stuff like that where it can be uploaded. Or via discord if you have that (my handle on there is 'segachief').

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Releases / Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] New Threat Mod (v2.0.9995)

« on: 2023-08-19 23:00:00 »

Thanks for that, really. Meanwhile I tried several things:

Deinstalled everything, reinstalled Vanilla, played through the scenes that caused blackscreen. Saved at the first available Crystal. Installed mod again. Could play until Barret, aeris and cait sith are heading for the Airport, but leaving the execution section makes barret become invisible and after the elevator animation (the one that goes diagonally) nothing happens, no blackscreen, this time, but no control either

I also found settings in steam that let me install the English version. So i repeated all steps again, since I guessed, that all the trouble comes from using the german version. but once again, same issue. Diagonally Elevator is the roadblock. Maybe this information helps to triangulate the error source?

Btw sry, if I don't use correct terms from time to time. I'm not a native english speaker.

And even if I repeat myself, thank you so much for your efforts and for this great mod

You may need to send me your save file, it might be that playing through vanilla during that segment has left something set wrong but I don't know. I'll need to test through that section with the save file to try and replicate it.

Actually, when you say the diagonal elevator do you mean the one on this screen?


Or the ones found within Junon, because the diagonal elevators within Junon aren't supposed to be reachable.

The sequence of events is supposed to be:
1) Barret and co. leave the media room, the door is locked.
2) You head back up to the room where Heidegger and Rufus are, with the routes leading outside blocked off by a script
3) You interact with some computers in the control room and then fight some of Rufus' soldiers
4) The player is moved outside and meets Yuffie, then they head on to the airport and ride the lift up
5) Gas room scene plays.

If you reached this screen (or the other one with an elevator on the other side), then it'd explain why Barret turned invisible; this is supposed to be inaccessible to him:


If that is the case, then head this way instead; the routes with a red X are supposed to be blocked off by a script:

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Releases / Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] New Threat Mod (v2.0.9995)

« on: 2023-08-19 21:46:02 »

Hi again,

I went through all the steps mentioned in the install instructions including the checklist where I start a new game and check for the reactor bomb. So far so good, but when I load my 44 hour file, which I want to continue, i have the same problem. Blackscreen after leaving the screen after defeating jenova death. Background noises still playing. And I was so excited, that the new game worked. I am desperate. Please, some other idea?

And thank you very much, I didn't expected such a quick response.

I'll try what worked for wonder square & chocobo square before and import a fresh version of that field from an older build, bit baffled it's not working as I tested it out.

Edit: I updated the manual install version with an flevel that uses a freshly imported version of that whirlwind maze field from an older build. Hopefully that resolves whatever is going on with it: https://mega.nz/file/24lQxA4Q#3_W7JfIsKAInc1C-Rtx_FwhoNyHjTO5PxSjI03nKUEE

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Releases / Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] New Threat Mod (v2.0.9995)

« on: 2023-08-19 15:15:46 »

So, will the new version also fix the Whirlwind maze issue? And in order to update the mod, can I download the newest version and patch my already patched game? Or do I need to uninstall everything before? I'm really ignorant when it comes to this kind of stuff, sorry.

Yeah just patch over the top of what you have; I've retired the installer due to the field screen issues so now all you do is unzip the folder and drop the contents into the FF7 install directory; you'll get a message about merging/overwriting files, just confirm and it should be good to go.

Thank you! That helps!

Also a few small questions:

1. is there a list by chance of new added random encounters? Example:Ziegfriend outside of Fort Condor. I am using an excel spreadsheet of all monster list for steal/morph/etc for your Mod but Ziegfriend was not listed. So I just want to be sure I dont miss any other amazing fights!

2.Are there any weapons that override the 1/8 damage reduction from morph? Or would mastering the materia get rid of the reduction?

3.I was casting Esuna to get rid of the sadness alignment but it kept missing. Is that correct?

I didn't add many new random mob encounters for the 2.0 build (1.5 had a bunch but these were removed for space).

I think Yuffie's conformer can override it.

Yeah, Esuna covers the following: Sleep, Poison, Confu, Silence, Frog, Mini, Petrify, Berserk, Paralysis, and Blind.

I found three weird things on Whirlwind Maze, in the parts where we have to dodge the elements to skip a battle:
- on the second screen, the first one with the green wave, said green wave was spazzing out making it impossible to dodge: it was pretty much stuck in the middle of the screen jittering left and right. It might have only been a visual bug, I couldn't say.
- on all three fights (yeah, I dodged 0/3 times) the win fanfare didn't play but the battle music kept going until I was back on the field screen
- this was probably intended as a QOL change, but in case it isn't, getting hit knocks Cloud forwards instead of backwards

Also, during the Junon escape, the new scene where the Shinra trooper notices he's dropped the key and retrieves it plays, but then when the gas started pouring in the key was back there, and in the end I had to do the key minigame with Tifa, so I don't know what's up with that.

I wanna say this mod is fantastic. I had played an older version of NT several years ago but only got up to the Midgar escape and it was a blast. This new NT2 is even better. While I'm not finding it nearly as hard (even though I'm playing with hard mode on) all the changes you've done are exceptional. It's like if FF7 had an Arrange mode.

There's a thing with the game where the animation for it can get a bit messed up; best thing to do is leave and then return to reset it. And yeah, I changed it to knock you through the wind rather than back.

For Junon, starting from 2.09992 I've changed the scenes there to combine the Type A and Type B route into one, but I must have forgot to remove the key part of Type B's scene.

Hello,

first: I am amazed. I found out about this mod via twitch stream. I had to get it right away. After some difficulties with installing the mod (because I use steam and german version) I jumped in and lost myself in the game

Now I beat Jenova death and morphed her. Battle ends, Black Materia handed over to Barret. Saved and wanted to proceed, entering next loading zone leads to black screen every time. Reloading and restarting PC doesn't solve the problem. Is this a known issue? And if so, is there a work around or anything? I would really love to progress through this awesome mod!

Thanks in advance.

There's an issue with the installer where some fields seem to be getting corrupted; so as of 2.09995, the installer has been retired and it's now just a folder that you drop into the install directory (some instructions have been added to the download for it). Hopefully it should fix the issue and allow you to progress.


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2.09995 released, patch notes below:

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2.09995
*) Fixed oversight where the main party against Bizarro would be reloaded for the Safer fight
*) Kernel text issue where Hellfire had become appended to Diamond Dust
*) Talisman adjusted to have effect of +35 Spirit & Luck
*) Issue where game type would swap to Type B during Mythril Mines
*) Issue where 1/35 soldier item in Nibelheim could be picked up repeatedly
*) Installer retired due to unpredictable field corruption issue; direct merge now being used

So two major things to mention;
1) The installer has now been retired and replaced by a simple folder that you drop into your install directory. There were instances of screens not working correctly after using the installer that I couldn't replicate on my end, but which were affecting multiple users in the same places. The new one is a lot more direct and should avoid this issue.

2) During testing, I left a variable switch to try out the Mythril Mines Type B encounter that was added for 2.09993. Unfortunately, I forgot to remove this and so everyone who has played through the mod since that version has been swapped over to the Type B route after this point of the game, regardless of which Type they selected at the start. You may notice that most bosses are different to their originals as a result after this point of the game. This is fixed as of 2.09995 but affected games will still be on Type B; sorry about that.

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« on: 2023-08-18 13:47:23 »

is this the FFNx.log ?
[00007640] [BATTLE] Scene# 489
[00007640] [BATTLE] Exitting FRAME_INITIALIZE
[00007886] [BATTLE] Begin main battle loop
[00020818] WM_CLOSE
[00020818] [BATTLE] Entering FRAME_QUIT
[00020818] [BATTLE] endof battle.
[00020818] [BATTLE] Exitting FRAME_QUIT
[00020818] Field Quit
[00020818] MIDI stop
[00020818] - OK
[00020818] resetting MIDI driver volume
[00020818] - OK
[00020818] UNINITIALIZE DD

Doesn't seem to be much info to go on. I'd try a clean reinstall of FF7, but beyond that unsure what the issue could be; I wasn't able to replicate it on 7h or Steam.

Sometimes when I use Cid's Big Brawl limit he attacks causing no damage or even displaying it, when it's over my party wins even when the monsters are still on screen.

This issue affects FF7 on PC in general from what I remember, the attack doesn't have the animation data set correctly or something so enemies react to it strangely (similar to Vincent's mug glitch I think where one of his battle models will cause the next animation to skip when Mug is used). There's not much I can do about it unfortunately as I'm not too familiar with the animation structure.

Hi! I've recently started playing New Threat 2.09993 Type A and I'm having a blast, but I've encountered a major bug that probably won't let me progress through the story. The game softlocks whenever I enter Chocobo or Wonder Square; not the actual first screens that you can access from the station (I can enter those two just fine), but the areas where chocobo races are held and where all the minigames are, respectively. At first I didn't give it much thought because I believed that you didn't need to access those two areas to advance through the story, but I've just remembered that you actually have to when chasing Cait Sith during the date, so I don't think I will be able to go past that point in the story. Is there anyway I can fix this?

There's an unknown issue affecting the installer version where some fields are crashing when entered; for the 2.09994 build I imported fresh fields for those two screens from an older build which seemed to resolve the issue, but I'm being told that there's another later on in the whirlwind maze (3rd wind screen). My plan is to retire the installer and replace it with something more direct but for now updating to 2.09994 should fix those two screens.

Hi!

I'm playing Type A and just reached the Mythril Mines where I ended up fighting Reno as a boss. From what I remember from version 2.0.9991, shouldn't Rude and Elena be here as bosses in Type A instead of Reno? EDIT: Playing the 7th Heaven version just to be clear.

I think I added a Reno encounter there for Type B, but seems it's being used for Type A by mistake. I'll review the code and fix it.

Hi Sega!

I wanted to ask if there is a better breakdown of the differences between 1.5 and 2.0? Or at least a full change log for 1.5? I remember there being a guide with changes per each area of the game. Any help is appreciated!

Only thing I can really offer is to compare the 1.5 documentation to the 2.0 documentation:
1.5: https://mega.nz/file/C5VAHAZJ#ek2yQaCGtMhABm6HEAj-4M-PiQhC5ELlmEknOEcuciQ
2.0: https://mega.nz/file/Kt1xkZTJ#eq4TQ-4S_ptw6v1zOnJstMLPyFFlBlshbG49tdV1o7Y

I never really kept a proper changelog for 1.5, and when I redid everything I didn't document the changes going from 1.5 to 2.0. Broad strokes is a bunch of content was either revised or cut, event scripting revisions, redid encounters & character/equipment balancing.

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« on: 2023-08-14 16:40:20 »

hey, i just recently started playing new threat and i was wondering, is there a text doc or something along those lines for help in finding the ultimate weapons/lv4 limits? i would very much appreciate any help in that regard.

also how do i get rid of the two shinra troops in the airships chocobo pen? that was kinda getting to me a little too

There should be a doc in the documentation called Item & Materia placement that can give a general rough idea of where to go for each thing (if it's from an enemy, it's listed as a Drop (D), Steal (S), or Morph (M).

I can add an option to kick them out or something.

umm.. im playing this 2.0 mod now but im stock in jenova birth boss after it uses the propagate skill nothing happens it misses.. then u cant do anything else u can pause it but atb doesnt move cant atk or anything .. ive watch some yt vids its suppose to summons some tentacles things ..ive taken off all mods and left only new threat 2.0 still da same

I did a test and they spawned in, so my best guess is that something's persisted in the install that's interfering with it. You might need to try a fresh install of the game to make sure any other mods that were being used haven't left permanent changes. Either that or it's maybe something like the FFNX build maybe. Something that might shed some light on it is the log file as that might pick up on issues: in the FF7 install directory, look for an APP.log and a FFNx.log; might be something in these that pinpoints what the issue is (can use pastebin to pass the contents in here).

[Spoiler:]

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« on: 2023-08-13 12:16:24 »

Alright. I've been killing myself for days now and I can't find an answer. How do I unlock the level 2 limits? I've been progressing through the story and massacring enemies left and right, but I can't unlock the level 2 limits.

Edit: Never mind. Once I posted this, I went ahead and continued killing and then unlocked them...holy crap...

Yeah, it's the same process as vanilla game with slightly different values needed. List is below:

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Cloud
Lv.1-2: 6 Uses of 1-1
Lv.2-1: 120 kills
Lv.2-2: 5 uses of 2-1
Lv.3-1: 240 kills
Lv.3-2: 4 uses of 3-1

Barret
Lv.1-2: 6 Uses of 1-1
Lv.2-1: 90 kills
Lv.2-2: 5 uses of 2-1
Lv.3-1: 180 kills
Lv.3-2: 4 uses of 3-1

Tifa
Lv.1-2: 8 Uses of 1-1
Lv.2-1: 90 kills
Lv.2-2: 6 uses of 2-1
Lv.3-1: 180 kills
Lv.3-2: 4 uses of 3-1

Aeris
Lv.1-2: 6 Uses of 1-1
Lv.2-1: 80 kills
Lv.2-2: 5 uses of 2-1
Lv.3-1: 160 kills
Lv.3-2: 4 uses of 3-1

Red XIII
Lv.1-2: 6 Uses of 1-1
Lv.2-1: 80 kills
Lv.2-2: 5 uses of 2-1
Lv.3-1: 160 kills
Lv.3-2: 4 uses of 3-1

Yuffie
Lv.1-2: 6 Uses of 1-1
Lv.2-1: 80 kills
Lv.2-2: 5 uses of 2-1
Lv.3-1: 160 kills
Lv.3-2: 4 uses of 3-1

Cait Sith
Lv.1-2: 3 Uses of 1-1
Lv.2-1: 6 kills

Vincent
Lv.2-1: 6 kills
Lv.3-1: 12 kills

Cid
Lv.1-2: 6 Uses of 1-1
Lv.2-1: 40 kills
Lv.2-2: 4 uses of 2-1
Lv.3-1: 80 kills
Lv.3-2: 4 uses of 3-1

***

Mod updated to 2.09994, patch notes below:

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2.09994
*) Kernel strings corrected ('Materia born', etc.)
*) Revisions made to some Turk steals (Mythril Mines, Pillar, Church)
*) Added a failsafe to Holzoff save point
*) Reimported older fields (2.094) for Wonder Square & Chocobo Square (attempting to resolve unknown crash on Installer version for those two screens)
*) Resolved softlock in Weapon Raid where Yuffie as a reporter would collide with Barret when trying to 'join' the party
*) Fixed issue where Cloud would not be re-added to the party after Battle Square when not the party leader

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« on: 2023-08-11 13:44:06 »

Every single time I level up a command materia to max I get "{BOX:RED} Limit Break" and the steam achievement "master materia". It doesn't seem to have any affect on gameplay it's just annoying. https://imgur.com/a/3mXmNnS

It looks like some of the text strings in the kernel have been messed up; I'll sort that out.

Hello again Sega Chief.

Well, if a need more comments to start sending messages I take this chance to give you tips:

I´m already finish 2.0 twice and I found something that could be interesting for you:

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There is a way to break the game:SPOILERS

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In resume "Sneak attack": I used these formulas in my second gameplay, quick example:
Ultima+Sneak attack+Ultima - Sneak attack+KHOR+MP Turbo - Comet+Sneak Attack+Comet
Kjata+sneak attack+Bahamut - Neo Bahamut+Sneak Attack+Ramuh - Shiva+Sneak Attack+Ifrit
These combinations could use in the two rows of every character.
I beat all the new bosses that have the "Limit 4" with these formulas, in some cases only need one character to win the match. I don´t know if I´m going to regret to tell you this because is an easy way to finish the game (Even Sephiroth in his two forms) but I asume that a solution could be this:
Sneak Attack - One Star (Like the Summons of this version)

My list of suggestions (Whishes) for the Type "B" - Hard mode:
- At he begining of the game (First scene) could be useful find this accesory: "Cat's Bell" - Would nice to steal it from one of the soilders, I never use this accessorie but in this point of the game would be awesome.

- Again, at the begining of the game would be nice to find a reward of gil (Maybe from the soldiers...again) something like: "165 giles", like a little help to buy "Steal" materia at the begining.

- One purple Materia: Strenght Plus or something like that, a materia to increase the Strenght, One Star, at least one.

- I reached level 99 but it was difficult (At least for me) to have 9999 at least with two characters, so, I suggest to add a second "HP Plus" or this idea: Items in the field (Very hide), rewards after win mid-bosses/bosses-battles, some examples:

- Potion+           (Increase the HP by 45)
- Potion++         (Increase the HP by 85)
- Potion+++      (Increase the HP by 255)
- Potion ++++   (Increase the HP by 460)
- Potion +++++ (Increase the HP by 875)

The same idea could by apply for MP.

- More items in the field, there are a lot of empty spaces.

Tiny Bronco and Highwing:
- The are a lot of empty islands, so, would be nice to reach one new city/village/reactor when you get the Tiny Bronco and the same idea with the Highwind.

- Turks:
Everything is right with them but at the begining of the game the items that we can obtain from them (Using "Steal" Materia) are kind of poor (At least in my opinion).

Well, that´s all. Thank you for reading me and I hope this help you in some way.

* Sorry for my poor english.

Are these setups using triple slots? Balancing-wise, I'm probably not going to change the base mod around it; would rather hear about what OP things people cook up.

I can add more gil and extra stuff to start of Route B, sure. And I'll see about adding some additional things to the various field screens; I added a bunch of new things for the 2.0 build, but I guess some more wouldn't hurt too much.

Adding new towns, etc. is beyond me I'm afraid.

I can review the steals from the Turks and make them a bit better; won't be as good as the original (Ziedrich for instance) but can perhaps give them stuff that's a tier ahead of what's current at the point of the game they're fought.

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« on: 2023-08-09 00:04:21 »

Hello Sega Chief.

I don´t know what is happening but I can´t send you messages. Yesterday I found another issue: There is an error in the text when you use Knights of Round.

By the way right now I finished the game, my save files would be still useful?

Messages I think unlock after X amount of posts.

Yeah the save files would still be handy for testing. I'll check into the KOTR text, the pointer for the text maybe got mucked up again as it's the very last one in the file (I think).

Indeed I enjoyed it.

Also, I've encountered a bug during the Junon Weapon Raid. When I have only Barret and Cait Sith in my party, during the encounter with Yuffie. At one point, when Yuffie is supposed to move, she remains blocked by Barret's sprite and the game is softlocked. It happens after Cait Sith says: "They stopped us from getting to her. We'll need to try again later..." Yuffie then starts walking, and is blocked by Barret's sprite.

I tried two more times by having Barret arrive in a different part of the screen, but the bug happened each time. Does anyone else encounter the same problem?

I'll sort that out tomorrow and have a patch up.

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« on: 2023-08-08 10:42:09 »

I'll ask them about it.

I wasn't able to replicate the first issue at Gold Saucer, but I did see the 2nd issue at Whirlwind Maze; I've implemented a fix and will update the mod tonight along with some other fixes.

Another user reported the same bug, but frustratingly I'm still unable to replicate on either 7h or using the regular installer via Steam in either of those rooms. Were there any other mods being used or have other mods been hard-installed in the past? For next patch I'll take copies of the 2.09992 fields and import them over in case there's some corruption or similar happening there.

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Glad you enjoyed it; I'll see what I can do with the suggestion for post-altar scene, adding dialogue itself isn't tough but it's more of a case of finding where its a good place to put it, and sometimes scenes need adjusted or added to fit it.

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« on: 2023-08-06 20:35:12 »

Hello Sega Chief.

I´m new here, in fact this is my first comment. First of all thank you for this amanzing mod, I love the idea to keep Aeris alive, this was the principal reason to played your mod, I hope that you continue working on it. I found some issues:

- I can´t upgrade Red-XIII values after the battle againts Jenova and Sephiroth (Disk two after the Ice mountains).
- I have enable "Voice Attacks" by "Cosmo Memory" but in this exact place Aeris changed her voice and use Barret´s.

Well, that´s it for now, once again thank you for this amanzing mod. Please, let me know if I can send you suggestions here in the comments or by PM.

* Sorry for my poor english, I just studied basic long time ago.

Could I get a copy of your save file? I'm unsure what would cause one specific character to be blocked on SP upgrades.

I think for the cosmo memory issue, you may need to talk to the author of that mod as I don't know much about how it functions or why there would be such an issue like that occurring.

[Spoiler:]

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« on: 2023-08-04 17:16:45 »

Have update to 2.09993:

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2.09993
*) Fixed oversight where Tifa & Cid aren't visible during Whirlwind Maze scene, causing softlock
*) Hid a 1/35 soldier item available in Nibelheim during the flashback
*) Fixed Ultima Weapon always missing (flag normally used by revive effects enabled by mistake)

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« on: 2023-08-03 10:19:07 »

I'm using the Combat Mode version of New Threat 2. I would like to ask if there's a Black Chocobo save editor modified in order to treat correctly the new additions reported in this mod, and if not, if you have informations about the possibility, for the creator of the editor, to support it in the future.

Thanks.

I'll ask them about it.

Hi,

Been playing through and enjoying it so far. However I've got to report some errors.

Playing with the standalone installer.
-Entering the area in Wonder Square with the minigames, as well as the Chocobo Square lobby throws unknown exceptions. I depatched to progress through the Cait Sith chase figuring there wouldn't be anything to miss with no issues.
-Post Jenova-DEATH during the scene with the Black Materia, Tifa's model doesn't appear, causing a softlock.

Thanks for your work.

I wasn't able to replicate the first issue at Gold Saucer, but I did see the 2nd issue at Whirlwind Maze; I've implemented a fix and will update the mod tonight along with some other fixes.