Author Topic: Confusion about additional effect 16 and 1C  (Read 2601 times)

Tenko Kuugen

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Confusion about additional effect 16 and 1C
« on: 2012-07-30 12:53:06 »
In Libre, 15 is shown as "Boost stats by M-100 percent"
In Libre, 1C is shown as "Modify Def/Mdef by M-100 percent"
In WallMarket both 15 and 1C are shown as "Raise Base damage and defense by 100-M percent"

which one is correct? I first tested effect 15 and set the modifer to 0, reducing base damage and defense by 100%
150 damage -> 1 damage happened as a result. 550 taken damage turned into 730, too. So this appears to do what WallMarket labels it at. I could not, under any circumstances, see a drop in speed, so "stats" are not affected.
Testing with 1C, and the same modifier, damage remained exactly the same even after taking the attack ( and the modifier always hits )
Defense took a similar dump as before, except that magic defense also seemed to drop. Thus leading me to believe that WallMarket is wrong here and Libre is correct. WallMarket labels both of the functions as 100-M percent which would mean ( 100 - 25 % = 75% boost ) where as what really happens is that with a modifier of 25%, you get 25-100, resulting in -75% instead.

Anyone else some insight in this?
« Last Edit: 2012-07-30 12:55:13 by KuugenTheFox »

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Re: Confusion about additional effect 16 and 1C
« Reply #1 on: 2012-07-30 14:45:00 »
The Qhimm wiki is correct. Wall Market's labels haven't changed in a long time. LiBrE's labels were based on WM's old labels, but they might have been updated more recently.

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Re: Confusion about additional effect 16 and 1C
« Reply #2 on: 2012-08-01 13:19:07 »
AFAIK Libre's labels are accurate. The modifier is STAT+STAT*((M - 100)/100). 0x15 affects all stats, whereas 0x1C affects just defence.

I took my label cues from the wiki documentation rather than WallMarket, so they should be correct.