Ok here is an argument for you. If something annoys you on the forum ignore it.
If there's a leaky pipe around the house, I don't ignore it, I fix it. Why ignore a problem when it can be fixed, and rather easily I might add?
Who cares if people are having a flame war in the completely unrelated area? People come here for info on modding final fantasy games.
The whole Seifer saga started because people disagreed with his translations. Unless I'm mistaken here...
Also the whole Seifer saga could've been avoided if instead of egging him on, he was just banned once he came back with one of his accounts.
For that matter dont even look at the completely unrelated forum if you have a problem with it. All the other forums are kept in check quite well by halkun. b*tching and whining helps nobody so why dont you come to the modding forum so we can have a discussion about something that matters, making final fantasy even more awesome 
"Completly Unrelated" is a part of these forums, and as such, I would like to see it treated with dignity. If there's one thing I keep seeing, is the off-topic boards in forums having their problems contained at first, then infecting the rest of the forum.
Yes, after Seifer's first rampage there were quite a few people volunteering. There's just one tiny snag with that; would you appoint someone who has been on the boards for only few months?
Definitely. Stagnation is the greatest enemy of a sucessful forum. Plus, the user pool here is not bad at all. Better to have good, but not perfect, mods, than to let anarchy reign.
Or someone who is known to be affiliated with the recently banned person? Or someone who just registered to tell us he'd like to volunteer? There weren't very many so-called known quantities.
Of course not.
Most of the people we'd consider best candidates do not post here that much anymore, are busy with their lives, and perhaps most importantly; did not volunteer. At least I'm terribly wary of asking people to moderate, in the case we happen to accidentally put them on a guilt trip by pleading to their sense of duty.
If the "best candidates" are made of the old-school users of this forum, I'll just copy/paste what I was saying above about forum stagnation.
Newsflash: moderating isn't particularly rewarding. It'll burn you out, sooner or later. Dealing with asshats like Seifer and Hermie, that would be sooner.
Ban them on sight. Don't give them any more chances. They'll give up, sooner or later.
Question first; would you like to tell us what your banned username was? I'm asking this because - like I said - there were members wanting to be moderators coming out of the woodwork after Seifer's first rampage, some of them claimed that they had been reading the forums for this or that amount of time, but never registered. Forgive us of being more than little skeptical of their motives.
I'm just curious whether you have actually been here before, or if you are merely Seifer's attempt at social hacking. Not that it would particularly matter, but I'm curious.
I can perfectly understand your concerns. PM sent.
Intertubes themselves are changing. Like it or not, places like /b/ do affect and change the entire net, with their relentless meme-making and stuff. It's not the SRS BSNS it used to be 10 years ago. The serious side, and the not-so-serious side are converging, slowly but surely.
This place doesn't actually need a bunch of mods. It doesn't even have material to get bunch of mods, for that matter.
I myself thought the forums were too strict back then. And there are a few users here I see fit to becoming moderators.
As for halkun; he actually volunteered to be a super moderator. I told Qhimm 'no' in a heartbeat. And don't take that in the sense that I'd give orders, it's just my opinion, and a fairly strong one. He is doing absolutely great job in the tech forums, and is entirely correct in his view about the ripped models (and yes, that means that the lot of you are wrong, stop bringing it up, not going to change). He can also be - IMHO - very trigger happy, and occasionally loses context, acting on the consequences alone, rather than the cause. Which in turn can cause more grief. Not only that, but perhaps more importantly; there's only so much one man can do, and adding to that workload is not wise - it would be really stupid to lose perhaps the best moderator the Tech sections have ever had just by adding more and more to his workload.
Fair enough, then. And about the ripped models thing: I have the right to disagree. It probably won't change, but after witnessing the insane "ethics" code that the MUGEN community used (up to a point where some users were unhappy at the permanent warzone the biggest international MUGEN forum was, took control of the forum and decided to return to the roots... I could go on about it for ages, so I'll just leave it at this), I don't want to see this forum turn into something similar.
Oh, you are one of them. Well, I'll tell you the same I told to MrAdults; door's that way. We ain't stopping you.
That is only the last case scenario. It really isn't that hard to get this forum going, without being either too strict or too lenient.
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great work!
