Anyone who keeps old copies of Fice's Ifalna, plz read.

[ShinRa Inc]

I'm looking for the .25 version of Ifalna that Fice developed about a week before he released .30;  basically, .25 fixed the colouring problems and a few minor bugs that were present in .21, but still allowed substitution of Ultima edited polys (Which .30 locks up if you try it with, due to the updates in the coding and whatnot)

[The Skillster]

which tool was ifalna? the 3d viewing app? for ff7 models?

[ShinRa Inc]

Field / World map model viewer/animator.

[Aaron]

Fice gave me a whole bunch of old versions of his programs and I'm hosting them on my Ficedula Download Mirror.  I don't see 0.25 on there though, but there are some other versions...

[mirex]

i have only 1.10 and 1.30

[ShinRa Inc]

Yeah, there was a release between .21 and .30, which as I recall was .25.  You might remember me making a bunch of animations with customized and modified sprites and all that.  Ifalna 3.0 won't display ultima edited models, and that's the real problem.  .21 displays them, but that was released before Fice fixed the color problem(ie, Tifa is an albino).  There was like, a 48 hour gap between 2.5 and 3.0, which allowed Fice to fix up some of how the Polys were read (Fixing stuff like Hojo's head), and applying textures, but appearently that stuff was why Ultima edited polys never worked within the actual FF7 game, so now Ifalna gives basically the same error.  Plus, I know Alhexx isn't going to be around for a while, so that means I'm stuck with using his last working release of the Ultima editor, .29/30 until he gets back.

(Side note; since I was fiddling around with it earlier, the .30 release I downloaded still seems to have that HRC bug for models with more than 9 Polys per bone, but I don't think fice's working on it anymore.)

[ficedula]

(Side note; since I was fiddling around with it earlier, the .30 release I downloaded still seems to have that HRC bug for models with more than 9 Polys per bone, but I don't think fice's working on it anymore.)

Heh, I wouldn't be surprised; I doubt any of the FF7 models have that many (do they?); ISTR most only had one, and Ifalna didn't cope with more than that at one point...

Edit: Having checked the source code for Ifalna, it looks like you should be able to use more than 9 polys per bone - Ifalna assumes a single-digit number on the Polys line, but it also ignores it and just loads all the P files it finds on the rest of the line  Try just leaving the count as one and sticking all your P files after it anyway.

Of course, it won't fully work in FF7 then, but the whole point of this thread was that you were making models that don't display properly in FF7 anyway...

[ShinRa Inc]

I know, editing the actual HRC files to 9 polys instead of 10 or 12 or whatnot fixes the bug, but I haven't had time to do all that yet. I thought the 3.0 release of Ifalna had fixed the bug so if it had a two-digit number, it'd work. And the only two models I remember offhand were the Chocobo cart, and the second helicopter.

Of course, it won't fully work in FF7 then, but the whole point of this thread was that you were making models that don't display properly in FF7 anyway...

Desperation induced note:  They don't display anywhere, anymore @_@

[Sephiroth 3D]

I've got 1.21. Sorry.

[xeriouxi]

Hi!

Has anybody actually tried asking Ficedula if he/she has it? I'm sure that he/she will have it somewhere...  

Oh... and is Ficedula a he or a she? I'm not sure... but I'm guessing a male, right?  

xeriouxi.

[Sephiroth 3D]

IIRC... Male.

[Caddberry]

I am pretty sure the only female here is Nori.. Edea hasnt been around for ages.. (or posted for ages anyway) and others have come and gone..

[ShinRa Inc]

I PM'd Fice about it before I started this thread.  :\