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Re: [Tutorial] Tifa's Bootleg
« Reply #1125 on: 2013-07-12 22:24:47 »
1) Basically, the 2012 re-release and the 2013 Steam version need to be "converted" to the original 1998 PC version before most mods can be applied. Anyway, if you're using Bootleg as described in OP of this thread, then it should be doing this for you automatically. :)

Yes but, he's saying have they used HIS game converter, not the one that comes with bootleg.

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Re: [Tutorial] Tifa's Bootleg
« Reply #1126 on: 2013-07-12 22:31:00 »
Yes but, he's saying have they used HIS game converter, not the one that comes with bootleg.

I used Bootleg from the start that is for sure. Does that mean I need to uninstall everything and start over using his game converter before bootleg ?

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Re: [Tutorial] Tifa's Bootleg
« Reply #1127 on: 2013-07-12 22:38:03 »
Yes, and it may not help, so be prepared for disappointment. Then again, it may solve the problems. We haven't had a lot of people test Kompass's Game Converter yet, but I'd say it's worth a shot. You should use his FF7-Remove-keys tool after uninstalling and deleting all ff7 files and directories. Install the game, then use Kompass63's Game Converter, then try bootleg and see how that goes. No idea what's causing your issue so at this point I'd probably start over anyway. 
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Re: [Tutorial] Tifa's Bootleg
« Reply #1128 on: 2013-07-12 23:19:10 »
Thanks! I got the Always Run option working, but it looks like I need to press Ctrl+F4 every time I start up the game. :(
Is there any way to change the default to ON? I never had to turn it on when I was using the Menu Overhaul.
Worked on this for longer than someone bright should... but I found how to install this and also where Gypt (skip movies) in Menu Overhaul came from. They are .exe patches created by Dziugo: for YAMP (Yet Another Multi-Patcher) which is a little tricky to set up. I had to look carefully at his screenshot before I realized I needed a "patches" folder inside my game menu. Anyway, here's the link for the Always Run Patch that they got working correctly, and here's Gypt. Yamp install file and .ex_ in the main, game directory, patch files all in the patches folder, then open the install.bat and itl patch your ff7.exe for you! If your computer explodes it was xLostWingx's fault.

Edit: and double post. I'd Smite myself but someone already did today :-P

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« Reply #1129 on: 2013-07-13 00:56:11 »
Worked on this for longer than someone bright should... but I found how to install this and also where Gypt (skip movies) in Menu Overhaul came from. They are .exe patches created by Dziugo: for YAMP (Yet Another Multi-Patcher) which is a little tricky to set up. I had to look carefully at his screenshot before I realized I needed a "patches" folder inside my game menu. Anyway, here's the link for the Always Run Patch that they got working correctly, and here's Gypt. Yamp install file and .ex_ in the main, game directory, patch files all in the patches folder, then open the install.bat and itl patch your ff7.exe for you! If your computer explodes it was xLostWingx's fault.

Edit: and double post. I'd Smite myself but someone already did today :-P

Thanks for the tips. :)

But if I'm also using Bootleg, should I apply these patches before or after? I feel like I can't do both (if Bootleg is patching ff7.exe) since a patch would only work on the original ff7.exe...

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Re: [Tutorial] Tifa's Bootleg
« Reply #1130 on: 2013-07-13 00:59:27 »
But if I'm also using Bootleg, should I apply these patches before or after? I feel like I can't do both (if Bootleg is patching ff7.exe) since a patch would only work on the original ff7.exe...
After, bootleg doesn't necessarily alter ff7.exe, just menu overhaul does. YAMP wont even start trying to patch if ff7.exe isn't untouched. Glad you made me find these, cus I wanted them too...  :lol:
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Re: [Tutorial] Tifa's Bootleg
« Reply #1131 on: 2013-07-13 01:07:28 »
After, bootleg doesn't necessarily alter ff7.exe, just menu overhaul does. YAMP wont even start trying to patch if ff7.exe isn't untouched. Glad you made me find these, cus I wanted them too...  :lol:

Thanks. I'm reinstalling right now since I had installed the Always Run toggle thingy, which is different than this patch. I'll let you know how the patching goes. :)

(Although I know the Always Run toggle from Bootleg is a DLL, so perhaps I could just delete it? Anyway, better to let Bootleg figure it out for me. :-P)



Edit: Unfortunately, the patches do not work for me at all. The patching says it was successful, but I can press Ctrl+S all day and it never skips the opening FMV. Also, Cloud will not run unless I hold down Cancel. :(
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Re: [Tutorial] Tifa's Bootleg
« Reply #1132 on: 2013-07-13 01:47:15 »
Like I said it's tricky. Read the YAMP post by dziugo carefully. They do work. Need to put files in the right places. Itl say its successful even if you have them set up wrong and it just patches the file exactly the same as before. if you do it right the patcher will tell you each patch its instalkung individually before saying its finished.
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Re: [Tutorial] Tifa's Bootleg
« Reply #1133 on: 2013-07-13 02:02:58 »
Like I said it's tricky. Read the YAMP post by dziugo carefully. They do work. Need to put files in the right places. Itl say its successful even if you have them set up wrong and it just patches the file exactly the same as before. if you do it right the patcher will tell you each patch its instalkung individually before saying its finished. I dont just put up links without testing them.

Yes, I know how to read. :-P

I set the files up just like he said. Here is the output (the backup part is because I'm running it for the second time):

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FF7.exe file restored from the backup (backup_ff7.exe)
Applying patch: GyptInstant
Applying patch: KrucisDefaultRun
Patching done
Press any key to continue...

I know it's a valid patch, but I can't get mine working somehow. :(



I'm going to try reinstalling Bootleg without the Difficulty Mode Switching. I'm sure that must do a bunch of funky things involving ff7.exe?
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Re: [Tutorial] Tifa's Bootleg
« Reply #1134 on: 2013-07-13 02:31:17 »
Mode switching doesn't work right AFAIK.  Pretty sure Alyza advises against using it.
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« Reply #1135 on: 2013-07-13 02:44:48 »
Mode switching doesn't work right AFAIK.  Pretty sure Alyza advises against using it.

Yeah, I've seen some people advise against it, but I never had any problems with it before.

But I guess there's really no reason to switch difficulties mid-game. I'll just play vanilla for now and re-install a different difficulty later if I want. :)

Sweet, the patches are working now! :D

(Freaking Mode Switcher, eh?  ::))

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Re: [Tutorial] Tifa's Bootleg
« Reply #1136 on: 2013-07-13 03:00:58 »
(Freaking Mode Switcher, eh?  ::))
Oh, good; my bad thinking you did it wrong... I did it wrong repeatedly lol. I keep failing helping people lately, get's confusing when stuff works for you and no one else. If you figured that out so quick, you're smart. Can you tell me more about your menus in game without the menu overhaul installed? I can't get mine looking the way I want at 1080p. At 1280x960 the GUI from the Avalanche Hi-Res looks perfect... Bump it to 1920X1080 and it starts to show little artifacts. Did you end up just scrapping the menu changes altogether and using the old one? I tried that, no glitches but it looks... out of place and jagged. Skipping the Avalanche GUI and using the Hi-Res menu changes at 1080p is not too bad, the glitches are not very noticeable or distracting to me. I really missed the critical hit flashes (if they are really working now, I need more time to play with this setup, but I saw Cloud hit one and it went off, whole screen went white for a split second I think). And like you said, the end of battle black out sticks out pretty bad, too. Wish I could fix the stock looking Avalanche-Hi-Res Menus for 1080p without glitches. 

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« Reply #1137 on: 2013-07-13 05:08:08 »
Oh, good; my bad thinking you did it wrong... I did it wrong repeatedly lol. I keep failing helping people lately, get's confusing when stuff works for you and no one else. If you figured that out so quick, you're smart. Can you tell me more about your menus in game without the menu overhaul installed? I can't get mine looking the way I want at 1080p. At 1280x960 the GUI from the Avalanche Hi-Res looks perfect... Bump it to 1920X1080 and it starts to show little artifacts. Did you end up just scrapping the menu changes altogether and using the old one? I tried that, no glitches but it looks... out of place and jagged. Skipping the Avalanche GUI and using the Hi-Res menu changes at 1080p is not too bad, the glitches are not very noticeable or distracting to me. I really missed the critical hit flashes (if they are really working now, I need more time to play with this setup, but I saw Cloud hit one and it went off, whole screen went white for a split second I think). And like you said, the end of battle black out sticks out pretty bad, too. Wish I could fix the stock looking Avalanche-Hi-Res Menus for 1080p without glitches.

It turns out that my GUI artifacts were coming from the "Internal Resolution" option in the Bootloader. Have you tried turning that off?

I'm using the Avalanche GUI and Hi-Res stuff at 1920x1200 and everything is looking great. :)



The only problem I'm having now is that the game seems to crash from time to time... Like maybe every 30 mins to 1 hour, depending on how lucky I am. I guess I'd better save every chance I get. ::)
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Re: [Tutorial] Tifa's Bootleg
« Reply #1138 on: 2013-07-13 11:45:28 »
Hmm, so I deleted everything and started over. After installing FF7 from Steam again, I searched for the file and found it under Steam\SteamApps\common\FINAL FANTASY VII\data\lang-en\battle. So if I install the mods again, but move the cam files to \data\battle, would it work? Just thinking out loud.

And again, thank you for your help, you're amazing.

I'm getting the same issues as you, it seems if you reinstall FF through Stream it places some files in data\lang-en\battle instead of just data\battle. Getting error when installing the Hardcore mod that it couldn't find scene.bin and then I get crashes on the first fight every time like you.

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« Reply #1139 on: 2013-07-13 13:23:18 »
Thanks a million times !!!! It worked !!!! Thanks to all who have helped me through this !! :D

I guess Kompass converter must have done the trick ;)

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« Reply #1140 on: 2013-07-13 14:06:20 »
Thanks a million times !!!! It worked !!!! Thanks to all who have helped me through this !! :D

I guess Kompass converter must have done the trick ;)

Aha, fantastic news! Komp will be very pleased. Great job working it through.

"Seems like this game is held together with tape sometimes" - cmh175

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    Hmm, so I deleted everything and started over. After installing FF7 from Steam again, I searched for the file and found it under Steam\SteamApps\common\FINAL FANTASY VII\data\lang-en\battle. So if I install the mods again, but move the cam files to \data\battle, would it work? Just thinking out loud.
I'm getting the same issues as you, it seems if you reinstall FF through Stream it places some files in data\lang-en\battle instead of just data\battle. Getting error when installing the Hardcore mod that it couldn't find scene.bin and then I get crashes on the first fight every time like you.
You should use this FF7-Remove-keys tool after uninstalling and deleting all ff7 files and directories. Install the game, then use Kompass63's Game Converter, then try bootleg and see how that goes.
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Re: [Tutorial] Tifa's Bootleg
« Reply #1141 on: 2013-07-13 20:17:43 »
I was finally able to get it to work. I think I kept getting errors when I used the same folder for bootleg and Temp for multiple installations. I think some things were saved in bootleg and the temp folder from previous installations, and it was causing errors when I tried reinstalling.

For the installation that worked, I created a brand new folder to put bootleg and the mods into, as well as a new temp folder. It completed without any issues, and it ran on the first try! Can finally enjoy this game again!

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« Reply #1142 on: 2013-07-13 20:48:30 »
For some reason my game wont play. When I hit Play FF7 the screen goes black for a second, then back to normal, no game. It doesn't give me any error or tell me why.

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Re: [Tutorial] Tifa's Bootleg
« Reply #1143 on: 2013-07-13 21:17:47 »
How do i configure the controls or use a controller once I've applied everything?
For some reason now I start the game and can only use the NUM pad to move and press enter to start.

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« Reply #1144 on: 2013-07-13 23:22:31 »
Step 9 for me never shows up and I have no bootloader program to change the resolution. All my files were in green and yellow on the bootleg and Im using the latest version.

I am having the same problem with the Steam version (English v1.0.8.12).  I get a black DOS-box and it asks me to specify which character models within the preset I want to use.  After going through all the options it cuts out (the box/program closes as if it is done). 

The game doesn't even attempt to start.  If I attempt to start the game from the regular installer I end up with the Square-Enix installer (which doesn't have the option to switch to a custom rendering/sound option).  Not really sure what I'm supposed to do as this tutorial gave me the impression that the Bootlegger would downgrade the game for me.

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« Reply #1145 on: 2013-07-13 23:50:06 »
How do i configure the controls or use a controller once I've applied everything?
For some reason now I start the game and can only use the NUM pad to move and press enter to start.


I have an xbox360 controller that I plug in. The game automatically recognized it. The D-Pad doesn't work, though, only the joystick.

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Re: [Tutorial] Tifa's Bootleg
« Reply #1146 on: 2013-07-14 03:27:58 »
This doesn't seem to work on the Steam 2013 version. I followed the instructions, but some steps seem to be out-of-place or non-applicable (For example, step 9 doesn't look anything like what it does in your screen shots.)

I'm using the torrent package, with all the mods, but when I start the game with 1920x1080, it crashes, immediately. It will load the title screen when I remove "Preserve Aspect", but it crashes immediately after selecting New Game in the same manner, with only a black screen.

After working with the Game Converter, I was able to get past this and start the game. Immediately after starting the game, in the first FMV while the stars are moving, the game crashes. The Applog returns the following:

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INFO: FF7/FF8 OpenGL driver version 0.7.11b
INFO: Auto-detected version: FF7 1.02 US English
INFO: ATI Technologies Inc. AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series 4.2.12002 Compatibility Profile Context 9.12.0.0
INFO: OpenGL 2.0 support detected
INFO: Using PBO
INFO: Found swap_control extension
INFO: Max texture size: 16384x16384
INFO: Number of texture units: 8
INFO: Original resolution 640x480, window size 1920x1080, output resolution 1440x1080, internal resolution 1920x1440
INFO: FBO extension detected, using fast scaling/postprocessing path
INFO: Shader limits: varying 128, vert uniform 16384, frag uniform 16384
INFO: FFMpeg movie player plugin loaded
INFO: FFMpeg version SVN-r25886, Copyright (c) 2000-2010 Fabrice Bellard, et al.
INFO: FF7Music helper plugin loaded
INFO: Loading external library Multi.dll
LOCK UNLOCK TEST
MATRIX INITIALIZE
INITIALIZE DD/D3D END
ERROR: could not open file C:\FFVII\SteamApps\common\FINAL FANTASY VII\ff7input.cfg
initializing sound...
creating dsound primary buffer
reading audio file
loading static sounds
sound initialized
set music volume: 127
set music volume: 127
Entering MAIN
Exiting MAIN
START OF CREDITS!!!
INFO: C:\FFVII\SteamApps\common\FINAL FANTASY VII\movies\eidoslogo.avi; indeo5/pcm_s16le 640x480, 30.000000 FPS, duration: 12.933333, frames: 388
INFO: slow output format from video codec indeo5; 6
set music volume trans: 127->0, step=60
END OF CREDITS!!!
Entering MAIN
set music volume: 127
Exiting MAIN
START OF MENU SYSTEM!!!
END OF MENU SYSTEM!!!
Entering MAIN
Exiting MAIN
Field Start
INFO: C:\FFVII\SteamApps\common\FINAL FANTASY VII\movies\opening.avi; h264/aac 1280x896, 15.000000 FPS, duration: 119.466667, frames: 1792
INFO: slow output format from video codec h264; 12
ERROR: unhandled exception

I made sure to set my Sound Device in FF7 Config. There were a few errors (Mostly just the incorrect number of files errors from Menu Overhaul) that came up during installation, like the following, which appeared twice:

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Error in blackbgb: converting to field failed, Attempted to read 323135 bytes from 36fe

Has this been tested? Or was it just stated that the Steam version would work with it on the assumption that it was the same version as the 2012 Square Enix one? Or am I just doing something wrong? I'd really like to play the game with these mods, and I appreciate the work you've all done with this, but it's looking increasingly like it can't be done.


EDIT:

With a little luck and some setting changes, I've managed to get into the First Reactor and through a few battles, to the first save point. Hopefully, no more errors will appear~ Now, I just need to configure my Xbox 360 controller to work with it.
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Re: [Tutorial] Tifa's Bootleg
« Reply #1147 on: 2013-07-14 06:06:57 »
Microsoft .Net Framework Unhandled exception:
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[quote author=bob7757 link=topic=13212.msg202125#msg202125 date=1373629311]
I am having some trouble, after I downloaded and ran BFE.exe and downloaded all the necessary mods and run bootleg an error message shows up.

it is titled Microsoft.NET Framework and says Unhandled exception has occurred in your application if you click continue the application will ignore this error and attempt to continue. if you click quit the application will close immediately. The System cannot find the file specified, and if I go to details it says:

 See the end of this message for details on invoking
just-in-time (JIT) debugging instead of this dialog box.

************** Exception Text **************
System.ComponentModel.Win32Exception: The system cannot find the file specified
   at System.Diagnostics.Process.StartWithShellExecuteEx(ProcessStartInfo startInfo)
   at System.Diagnostics.Process.Start()
   at System.Diagnostics.Process.Start(ProcessStartInfo startInfo)
   at BootlegFE.Bootleg.StartBootleg(Int32 iFlagStart)
   at BootlegFE.Bootleg.RunBootleg_Click(Object sender, EventArgs e)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.OnClick(EventArgs e)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Button.OnClick(EventArgs e)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Button.OnMouseUp(MouseEventArgs mevent)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmMouseUp(Message& m, MouseButtons button, Int32 clicks)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.ButtonBase.WndProc(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Button.WndProc(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)


************** Loaded Assemblies **************
mscorlib
    Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
    Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.5472 (Win7SP1GDR.050727-5400)
    CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/Microsoft.NET/Framework/v2.0.50727/mscorlib.dll
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BootlegFE
    Assembly Version: 1.0.4748.37298
    Win32 Version: 1.0.35.0
    CodeBase: file:///D:/BFE.exe
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Microsoft.VisualBasic
    Assembly Version: 8.0.0.0
    Win32 Version: 8.0.50727.5420 (Win7SP1.050727-5400)
    CodeBase: file:///C:/windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/Microsoft.VisualBasic/8.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/Microsoft.VisualBasic.dll
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System
    Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
    Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.5467 (Win7SP1GDR.050727-5400)
    CodeBase: file:///C:/windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.dll
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System.Windows.Forms
    Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
    Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.5468 (Win7SP1GDR.050727-5400)
    CodeBase: file:///C:/windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Windows.Forms/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.Windows.Forms.dll
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System.Drawing
    Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
    Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.5467 (Win7SP1GDR.050727-5400)
    CodeBase: file:///C:/windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Drawing/2.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/System.Drawing.dll
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System.Runtime.Remoting
    Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
    Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.5420 (Win7SP1.050727-5400)
    CodeBase: file:///C:/windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Runtime.Remoting/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.Runtime.Remoting.dll
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System.Configuration
    Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
    Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.5473 (Win7SP1GDR.050727-5400)
    CodeBase: file:///C:/windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Configuration/2.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/System.Configuration.dll
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System.Xml
    Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
    Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.5473 (Win7SP1GDR.050727-5400)
    CodeBase: file:///C:/windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Xml/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.Xml.dll
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Accessibility
    Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
    Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.4927 (NetFXspW7.050727-4900)
    CodeBase: file:///C:/windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/Accessibility/2.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/Accessibility.dll
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************** JIT Debugging **************
To enable just-in-time (JIT) debugging, the .config file for this
application or computer (machine.config) must have the
jitDebugging value set in the system.windows.forms section.
The application must also be compiled with debugging
enabled.

For example:

<configuration>
    <system.windows.forms jitDebugging="true" />
</configuration>

When JIT debugging is enabled, any unhandled exception
will be sent to the JIT debugger registered on the computer
rather than be handled by this dialog box.

what should I do?
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I too am having this issue.
.net framwork is up to date.
I'm running win 7 64, both BFE and Bootleg are set to run as admin.
I'm also having issues on my Win8 machine.
Despite having both BFE and Bootleg set for run as admin, when I get to the "run bootleg" step the box comes up, goes through the first checks and then fails stating that Bootleg does not have admin permissions.

It's the Steam 2013 version on both computers. Both games are installed to either C:\games\ff7 (win 8 computer) or d:\games\ff7
the BFE,Bootleg and accociated files are installed in the same directories as above just under games rather than ff7.

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Re: [Tutorial] Tifa's Bootleg
« Reply #1148 on: 2013-07-14 06:36:10 »
Unfortunately, it no longer seems to work, and just breaks down and crashes at random intervals.

I guess this really doesn't work with the Steam Re-Release.  :cry:

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Re: [Tutorial] Tifa's Bootleg
« Reply #1149 on: 2013-07-14 07:22:44 »
I'm not sure which video card driver you are using.
Try  AMD Catalyst 13.5 BETA2