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Will the White Race Survive? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoKl47nK04M)
I'm posting this to know your opinion on it, seriously.
I don't live in America, so i can't possibly know hows life there, schools, the streets, safety, unemployment, healthcare, etc.
/discuss.
*edit*
Wrote "like" instead of "live", lol.
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man sounds like an idiot. a bit of a white supremacist to be honest.
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I completely agree with everything he has to say. Here in South Carolina we still have good ol' affirmative action. My friend's father has been with his company for roughly 30 years. A few years back a subordinate position opened up and so he was training a new hire for it. Flash forward 2 years and a much higher ranking spot opened up that would be his father's next step in the company. Guess who gets promoted.. The guy with 2 years experience. Guess why.
He's black.
All the points Mr. Duke makes are statistically backed. But yet it's racist to talk about it? That's what's wrong with America. How are statistics racist? The day white's are no longer the majority here is the day I leave for Iceland. Watch Idiocracy.
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One can use statistics and facts to support any point. I can use statistics to illustrate that the systematic murder of everyone on earth with inferior genetics is a good idea.
One can demonstrate prejudice and be factual at the same time.
That being said, TL;DW
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man sounds like an idiot. a bit of a white supremacist to be honest.
Not being an idiot, maybe you don't agree with his policies to solve the problems. But the problems are facts. Heck I know I'll be wanting to send my kids to a private school. Most likely what will happen cause there wont be change before I have kids. I grew up in southern california mixed in with the blacks and latinos. Asian kids usually act better then most black and latino. Ok, personally here are two examples of my disgust at the black and latino populations,
-latinos: they always have an inside connection with there minor labor jobs. Example, I worked at walmart at one point. This one latino kid would harass everyone, twist nipples (men and women), take half days, etc. Wasn't fired while I submitted reports on him until I went above the store. Yet I was fired instantly for not showing up to work on a day that I was supposed to have the day off for college. Told them about that for a month and I had to go to the classes.
- Blacks: Only a rare few can I have an intelligible conversation with. The rest murder the english language. Hell even the top of the music industry rappers sound like retards and don't have a shred of poetry to properly rap. I saw a gay white half chinese half irish guy in virginia that can rap better then most well known rappers. Last time I dealt with normal black guys was in boot camp. And the only way to make a point to them was to kick their ass or with the butt of my rifle.
Sure we have white trailer trash, rednecks, and asians have their little gangster and fake yakuzas. On the whole I can even understand white criminals while black and latinos usually do their stuff out of animal like stupidity. I'd rather chat with Marilyn Manson over Mike Tyson. At least Manson sings and has an interesting mindset and talks in a normal conversation.
Theres always good and bad in all races. Usually between middle class and rich are the intelligent people. All the poor people need to stop having kids. We have to have a license to go fishing, why not a license to have children. Just tie off your stuff at puberty and then once you hit 21 have to take a licensed test. You don't pass or show that you have STD's or in any other way unfit to have kids, guess what, non for you. If passed then your plumbing is fixed or other methods at pregnancy can be made to have kids.
Will solve overpopulation problems, will solve welfare problems(except for illegals, but they should be neutered if caught in some way, like mothers who come into an american hospital to birth a kid, fix her right after.), perhaps there would be more jobs. Demand for certain markets would go down, etc.
If we get rid of the poor class that are usually the stupid ones, then I wouldn't have a problem with the intelligent ones. My personal belief is you get what you earn by merit. You act like 5hit I'll look at you like 5hit. You want rights then don't be an illegal nor abuse your rights.
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that video is rubbish. He is a white supremacist for sure, and he sat down and wrote a nice sounding speech to try and mask whaat he was really saying. I guess he forgot he is also a member of the HUMAN race. I simply can't stand crap like this.... the road to oblivion? please. Why is it such a priority for these assholes to maintain their "racial superior...
Nevermind, this could very easily become a wall of text railing against all types of things related to racism.
that guy = douche
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that video is rubbish. He is a white supremacist for sure, and he sat down and wrote a nice sounding speech to try and mask whaat he was really saying. I guess he forgot he is also a member of the HUMAN race. I simply can't stand crap like this.... the road to oblivion? please. Why is it such a priority for these assholes to maintain their "racial superior...
Nevermind, this could very easily become a wall of text railing against all types of things related to racism.
that guy = Full of Win
Fix'd
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Right, the human race. I don't think we're going anywhere as a species.
Certain races are better than other races at given things. To not be aware of this you would have to lead a highly sheltered life.
Don't get me wrong, I do have friends of mixed races, and am by no means trying to claim superiority over particular people... but keep in mind stereotypes don't just appear for no reason. They are formed when over 50% of a group displays similar behaviors.
“I hate to admit it, but I have reached a stage in my life that if I am walking down a dark street late at night and I see that the person behind me is white, I subconsciously feel relieved.”
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I just think we need not be racial but Mental.... basically, get rid of the stupid people. No matter their skin color. If I own a business I'm not going to hire people based on their skin. I'm going to hire them based on experience, ability, and customer service. Give them a raise based on tenorship and how good of a job they do. Gov comes after me or someone tries to sue me, eff them. I shouldn't have to follow laws that say something like 60% of my workforce has to be minorities or disabled. Sorry running business here, no time to be playing nice guy. Same with the rest of the worldly stuff. Sorry, but people that are 5hit or act stupid can go to other countries or just rot. We don't want your kids, we don't want you. I don't want to give up my job just cause my boss has to have a certain amount of minorities. Etc. Look at africa. Home country of the blacks. What happened. Overpopulated and has AIDS. Want that for America? I don't.
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stereotypes don't just appear for no reason. They are formed when over 50% of a group displays similar behaviors.
I have to say that I don't know too many blondes that are airheads. At least not an unreasonable amount in comparison to ditzy brunettes.
Black people aren't naturally ghetto. It's a class difference, not a racial one. There are white people who are just as guilty of the actions that offend your average middle class whitey. It's just due to where and how they were raised.
My dad told me that when he was in middle school, his school was the first one in his town to allow black people to attend. Granted he was from a smaller town, but that's really not that long ago. I'm sure their education wasn't that great at those schools. That made it harder for them to compete in the job market with those who had better educations.
Since they couldn't compete in the job markets, they didn't get to save as much money.
Meaning that they could afford to send their children to better schools, either.
It just hasn't been that long that blacks have been able to accumulate wealth. Obviously, my Irish immigrant ancestors weren't wealthy either, but at least they were able to get jobs, and send their offspring to white schools.
Personally, I think that black people, overall in America, are still on the upswing of their rise in society. I hardly think they are sliding down the scale. I'm fortunate enough to work with several highly intelligent well-educated black people, affording me daily proof that it's not race, just circumstance.
(However, I do agree with the point of Idiocracy (just not about it being applied to more blacks any more than whites). I do think that the intelligent people are procreating less, while the trash proliferates at a higher frequency. I think this is probably a problem in every country, though.)
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Personally, I think that black people, overall in America, are still on the upswing of their rise in society. I hardly think they are sliding down the scale. I'm fortunate enough to work with several highly intelligent well-educated black people, affording me daily proof that it's not race, just circumstance.
quoted for intelligence.
(However, I do agree with the point of Idiocracy (just not about it being applied to more blacks any more than whites). I do think that the intelligent people are procreating less, while the trash proliferates at a higher frequency. I think this is probably a problem in every country, though.)
Methinks if intelligence was genetic, we wouldn't be having this conversation right now... Ideocracy was a fun movie, but I wouldn't revere it as a scientific theory or a prophetic foretelling or anything like that.
Don't get me wrong, I do have friends of mixed races, and am by no means trying to claim superiority over particular people... but keep in mind stereotypes don't just appear for no reason. They are formed when over 50% of a group displays similar behaviors.
“I hate to admit it, but I have reached a stage in my life that if I am walking down a dark street late at night and I see that the person behind me is white, I subconsciously feel relieved.”
dude...don't quote people of God... just don't. If a reverend or father or preacher says anything worthy of quoting or announces it enough so that it gets quoted, odds are they have agendas unrelated to the word of the bible (or whatever holy scripture is in question). Quoting a preacher shouldn't be any different from quoting scripture.
I'm more afraid of cops than black people when I'm walking around at night. Especially white, southern looking cops where the stereotype is actually that of a racist who oppresses people who aren't white. Yeah stereotypes exist, but they exist for everyone. It's our responsibility as a people to work against them to reverse the negative ones, not to draw attention to them and turn them into self-fulfilling prophecies like David Duke and this aforementioned "Reverend" seem to love doing.
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I'm all for racial equality. We all have different things we're good at. I am not for trying to force people to be accepting of others. You prove yourself to me and I'll accept you as an equal. Fulfill a stereotype and you'll be treated as such.
You get no special privileges because of your skin color, nor do you get discriminated against because of it.
Furzball, an IQ/Personality/Aptitude/disease test is the perfect population control. Unfortunately people are too selfish to go for it. We must never look at the big picture. Instead, let's allow the poor to continue to have 8 kids and provide the world with outstanding individuals destined to contribute to society. That is the way of the future.
Opine, blondes aren't a race :-P . You are right, there are people who of all races who are trash. There are people of all races who are exceptionally smart. However, the majority of people in different races are distinct from other races.
I also believe the environment has a heavy affect on you. If we were all raised in exactly the same circumstances, the difference between races would be much less. But we aren't.
I also can't buy that anyone is being "held down". Rights still don't put everyone at complete equality, but quite a few of those in low positions are quite content to live off the government and leech off the rest of society. You mention the Irish, they were hated as immigrants, but they bit their tongue and kept on working. Now no one cares if you're Irish in America. Blacks were hated by a lot of people as slaves and even when they got their rights... so what's the difference between them and the Irish?
Titeguy, how might you suggest we work against these stereotypes that everyone shares? I don't see how his religion is relevant. He is a known supporter for black rights. Because he is a reverend anything he says should be dismissed?
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Furzball, an IQ/Personality/Aptitude/disease test is the perfect population control. Unfortunately people are too selfish to go for it. We must never look at the big picture. Instead, let's allow the poor to continue to have 8 kids and provide the world with outstanding individuals destined to contribute to society. That is the way of the future.
That's right, mainstray of population are too selfish. But I'd tell them, look at it this way, all the sex you want without the responsibility :wink: . Unless you pass the test that is.
So you're saying we should pay for their welfare, give food to them, let them make up their gangs and such cause there is a possibility that they are "destined to contribute to society". I'm sorry, last time I checked, we're overpopulated, have a raise in homelessness, in petty crime, major crime, jails are getting filled, etc.
God may hate me for it, but I know I'm going to die and plan to go to Valhalla/heaven or be a wondering good willed spirit; but I'd much rather that jesus doesnt come around over having ten hitlers coming down the pipe along with him.
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Is it wrong that I am completely for racial equality but completely against racial mixing? No offense to any mixed-heritage users, but IMO i would want to be of full blood, no matter the race that the blood may be.
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Is it wrong that I am completely for racial equality but completely against racial mixing? No offense to any mixed-heritage users, but IMO i would want to be of full blood, no matter the race that the blood may be.
I'd be doomed then. Big ol' european mutt with alittle Black Foot in there.
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Americans are funny!
I'm just gonna watch this thread for a while ;D
(http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/5937/konatabrowsesqhimmforum.jpg)
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Americans are funny!
I'm just gonna watch this thread for a while :-D
:-o
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Yu-chan took a picture of me whilst I was browsing the forums ;)
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So, i'm just going to unveil a bit what happens here in Portugal.
We have a lot of "ethnics" here but the problems come mainly from blacks, gipsys and sometimes "russians".
We also have a lot of asian people here but the difference is that they come here to start business, therefor helping the country to evolve. We don't have Yakuzas here or wtv, most of the chinese here open restaurants and small stores but that's just it; no drug dealing behind the restaurant (like in the movies!) or anything like that. They open new business and even give job positions to the portuguese.
On the other hand we have blacks who are, generalizing, the "cancer" of my country.
Unlikely the asians, most of them come to Portugal illegaly. We do a lot of fishing/ship related stuff around here, so it's kinda like "passing the border" for them, running away from Africa, where they are poor and see Portugal as an easy life. Again, unlikely the asians, they don't come here to open business, even though our government supports new "companies"; instead they come and take our jobs. When they don't take our jobs, they stay at home, while our government pays them to do so, by being unemployed or for "illness". All of this makes us have around 15% of the population unemployed (numbers based on the legal residents).
Healthcare is another problem. Plenty of times have i gone to the local hospital with my father and at the door are like 20 blacks/gipsies, who aren't/weren't legal here, flooding the emergency section because they got shot or one of their 6 babies got a cold because they don't have conditions to raise them; while my father who has lived here for ever, just like his grandfather and so on, can get assistance. You have to wait around 2 years to get an operation done..
Funny enough, they multiply like a virus and it gets even worse; more unemployment and more time waiting for healthcare.
This drives me to another point: the crimes. Honestly, the community where i live was based in fishermen, honest people, mostly know each other for decades, the only ones causing troubles and scaring people are blacks and gipsies. Houses robbed, drug dealing, rapes, and so on are always because of them. Even the local police are "afraid" to touch them.
And in the end, after paying them to stay at home, our government pays them a "community insertion" bonus, because "they can't seem to fit in". Seriously, i should be the one getting paid to be around them.
Luckily for me, the most dangerous gipsies have been arrested, the ones i see now aren't *that* dangerous (killing and stuff) like that.
And i'm not even in a known PT city, and i thank god for that. I'm not racist, nothing at all. I have friends from other ethnics they came here only to "destroy" our country.
Lastly, i'll leave a controversial question, if we are all equal indeed, intelligent and stuff, why don't they stay in Africa and make it prosper? It's the most rich continent, diamond and gold mines, oil and stuff like that. Why don't they build an empire instead of coming to portugal stealing people oportunities?
Reminds me a lot of... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOi6v5DD_1M
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Yu-chan took a picture of me whilst I was browsing the forums ;)
Well keep your pants on! This generation, they keep exposing themselves at younger and younger ages.
@Nightmarish
Probably one of the most racist things to say but doesn't it seem like blacks are a large problem, and I'm not counting in the states but everywhere else as well. And exactly as you said, if we were equal africa would be thriving instead of the warzone it is.
BTW Obama is a stupid monkey head.
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Titeguy, how might you suggest we work against these stereotypes that everyone shares?
"that everyone shares" what do you mean? that everyone perceives?
You can break stereotypes by attracting more attention to the exceptions than the offenders.
I don't see how his religion is relevant. He is a known supporter for black rights. Because he is a reverend anything he says should be dismissed?
yes. I think it's the lowest of the low to claim that you've devoted your life to spreading the word of God, then spread your own words instead. It's like claiming to be handicapped to win the special olympics.
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Yu-chan took a picture of me whilst I was browsing the forums ;)
Well keep your pants on! This generation, they keep exposing themselves at younger and younger ages.
And get arrested for it!
http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2010/06/28/18-year-old-busted-for-selling-child-porn-of-herself/
http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/01/22/childrens-child-porn-ring-smashed/
Both NSFW, obviously ;)
Anyway, if I keep my pants on, how do I, erm, "relieve" myself after the excitement of reading your posts fuzu-kun? ;D
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LMAO at the sites you seem to frequent there kudistos...(wonders what your history looks like deep in its depths)
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Titeguy, how might you suggest we work against these stereotypes that everyone shares?
"that everyone shares" what do you mean? that everyone perceives?
You can break stereotypes by attracting more attention to the exceptions than the offenders.
Right, the media can do this. It is quite possible that they could only display the good parts. But what I (and the average citizen) see, will still be that same stereotypical action on the street and at home. The only way to break a stereotype is to consistently prove it wrong over time.
I would like to bring up two more examples to emphasize my point that we aren't all equal. Please do keep in mind that I don't necessarily want to use blacks as examples, but they are the overwhelming minority here in SC. I don't encounter Indians, or Europeans, or Antarcticans...
Years ago... in the 40's I believe, a new community called Eau Claire was built. It was THE place to live and start a life in SC. Just perfect.. the best of the best.. but before too long blacks began moving in, slowly "forcing" the whites out. Now the place is complete trash. It is no longer the beautiful thriving community it once was. Any black family that moved there while whites were still there grew up in the exact same environment, yet it is now a ghetto.
Only about 5 years ago massive construction began in a place called The Summit, not necessarily a community, but more like a huge shopping area with any store or restaurant you could imagine. It did INCREDIBLY well! New nice houses started shooting up around it, it was an awesome place to go shop and just chill. So our state government decided to build section 8 housing nearby/in it. Guess what it's like now... just guess. Overrun with "thugs" and crime ridden. Plenty of job opportunities, and to start a new life for themselves... yet they overwhelmingly don't.
Both times these people were given the opportunity to prove they can live normally with the rest of us, yet they simply destroy it and turn it into a place no one wants to be. Given the nicest and newest and best we have, and it's ruined. That's why so many people believe the exact same stereotypes, because certain groups/races of people continuously fill them.
Titeguy I don't really follow the religion explanation either. I was in the military.. still am technically.. does that mean I should always conduct myself as if I'm still on a base or active duty?
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i didnt watch the video but i do not agree with affirmative action (especially since some is undeserved; women). race mixing i have no problem with. his point about the preservation of the white race is just disgusting. if that is what keeps you up at night that white people should not be mixing with asians or black people then there is probably something wrong with you. why dont we just start a council of eugenics. since clearly the reason whites should be the majority is because the possess these superior traits. if this was actually told to the intellectual world he would be laughed at. id be willing to bet he is just as deserving of his doctorate as dr. dre
David Ernest Duke (born July 1, 1950) is an American white nationalist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_nationalism), former Grand Wizard (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Wizard) of the Knights of the Ku Klux Klan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_Klux_Klan),
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@opine. some blacks mess things up, but doesnt give you the right to stereotype all of them. anyways the same people complaining about the problem are the same ones who are against social action. (hence why southern blacks are poorer than their northern counterparts)
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Well please read my point more clearly, Im white, but if I was black or asian or whatever I would still want to be full-blooded ya know. If not there will be no more races one day and we'll all be an off brown color. Do you want your heritage to just completely be wiped out like that?Or do you value the world as it is today, minus racism?
If all races mix willy nilly, we will all lose our heritages, our great great grandchildren will only know they are human beings, and know nothing of where their ancestry lies.
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If all races mix willy nilly, we will all lose our heritages, our great great grandchildren will only know they are human beings, and know nothing of where their ancestry lies.
I don't see the problem. Very few people are pure anything anymore. And how far back in time must we go to denote who is pure and who is mixed?
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it's disgusting.... he's from the KKK
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Outfoxxed: Me or David Duke? I am most certainly not from the KKK as my wife's maiden name is Emily Marilyn Garcia, so Ima wind up mixing races as well, although I dont necessarily agree with it, although, that sexy browness of that latin body is just great on a daily basis lol.
My point is I surely hope your not disgusted or think Im in the KKK....
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not you, david duke is a grand wizard from the KKK>
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it's disgusting.... he's from the KKK
Is the NAACP disgusting?
Black Panthers?
Yakuza?
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it's disgusting.... he's from the KKK
Is the NAACP disgusting?
Black Panthers?
Yakuza?
i don't believe in militant organizations so the Yakuza definitely disgusting. but the NAACP and black panthers are not disgusting. their purpose is not to discriminate against whites but to become equal. (though they are guilty of violence at some point i believe, the group as a whole does not go out and kill people)
sorry my mistake re-reading post. black panthers bad as well. militancy = bad.
and i think i just lost all respect i had for you..... if you're defending lynchers and one of the most notorious groups out there, i would not be surprised if you are guilty of neo-nazism. take that how you will.
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You know, I am in no way defending the KKK, but I am from rural alabama, so there are myths and rumors abound(you never see any members like you do on tv, members here were members back in the hardcore days and now keep to themselves and quiet)
Anyway my point is through all the stories that I have heard is that the KKK is not only racist against blacks, but also against white trash.
Any white man that beat his wife,was a lazy drunk who didnt work and was supported by others, drug addicts, etc were all lynched in the same manner.
So although KKK are white supremecists, and definate murdering racists, at least they hold themselves to the same rules they hold others by(mostly) You cant say they are super bad when they are cleaning up their own race( I hate white trash myself, it is disgusting, I should make a video of some white-trash properties around here, you'd lol and be sad at the same time)
Anyway as I said not trying to support murdering racists, but wanted to point out that they punish white people as well.
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i don't believe in militant organizations so the Yakuza definitely disgusting. but the NAACP and black panthers are not disgusting. their purpose is not to discriminate against whites but to become equal. (though they are guilty of violence at some point i believe, the group as a whole does not go out and kill people)
sorry my mistake re-reading post. black panthers bad as well. militancy = bad.
and i think i just lost all respect i had for you..... if you're defending lynchers and one of the most notorious groups out there, i would not be surprised if you are guilty of neo-nazism. take that how you will.
What exactly does neo-nazism include?
The NAACP is not militant, but what about affirmative action? I work at FedEx Express and we recently trained a black lady. Turns out she cannot follow, and in fact defies, the rules and is a drain on our station. She even failed her training. However, we have to hire her. Guess why. Because we recently fired two black managers and if we fire another black employee the NAACP will have a shit fit and sue us for discrimination against "Colored People".
So this kind of bullying is ok in your book?
Using political force is ok, but not physical?
Also, when is the last time you heard of the KKK doing any lynching? Just curious.
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all i can say is that im appalled the human race still hasn't learned to get along with eachother based on skin color, its sickening
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Anyway, if I keep my pants on, how do I, erm, "relieve" myself after the excitement of reading your posts fuzu-kun? ;D
Dangit, I'm having it up to the armpits with girls "relieving" themselves using me... sad to say, I've given up on having friends with benefits, girlfriends, just plain love. I'm really looking for a soulmate and started self imposing chastity until I'm married. That's how much I'm done with those games. I know you were joking, tonight though I was just reminded a few times of it.
in other news lynching does still happen every year, maybe not with the KKK (at least a main party)
By the way check out http://www.onemanga.com/Personant/ (http://www.onemanga.com/Personant/) I like how they use masks to get rid of racial discrimination.
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Well please read my point more clearly, Im white, but if I was black or asian or whatever I would still want to be full-blooded ya know. If not there will be no more races one day and we'll all be an off brown color. Do you want your heritage to just completely be wiped out like that?Or do you value the world as it is today, minus racism?
If all races mix willy nilly, we will all lose our heritages, our great great grandchildren will only know they are human beings, and know nothing of where their ancestry lies.
I don't see that as a problem. Maybe with the years we will take the best from each "ethnecy" and become a better human race. If we're all equal in colour and costumes there won't be any racism and no minorities. This will take thousands of years tho.
My problem is those minorities coming to a certain area, which doesnt belong to them, take it as theirs and, as bear said, turning prosperous places into ghettos. Eventually the people who lived there, who "owned" the place, have to move since they no longer feel safe in a place that once was a good place to live.
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Furzball, an IQ/Personality/Aptitude/disease test is the perfect population control. Unfortunately people are too selfish to go for it. We must never look at the big picture. Instead, let's allow the poor to continue to have 8 kids and provide the world with outstanding individuals destined to contribute to society. That is the way of the future.
That's right, mainstray of population are too selfish. But I'd tell them, look at it this way, all the sex you want without the responsibility :wink: . Unless you pass the test that is.
So you're saying we should pay for their welfare, give food to them, let them make up their gangs and such cause there is a possibility that they are "destined to contribute to society". I'm sorry, last time I checked, we're overpopulated, have a raise in homelessness, in petty crime, major crime, jails are getting filled, etc.
Actually, I think obesebear was agreeing with you. (Could be wrong.)
But there can been situations just like the ones you describe.
I am not interesting in talking about politics (at all, cause honestly I hate debating parties).
But Clinton's dad died when he was young from alcoholism. His mother was somewhat of a floozy (by the standards back then, not ours today). His step-father abused his mom (not a lot, but more than once).
Obama's from a mixed family, and his dad left when he was young.
Obviously, neither of them are from the 'hood, but their situations were hardly ideal, yet they both had enough ambition to go after the presidency.
Stranger things could happen. While I agree that environment has a heavy affect on who we become, just because someone doesn't come from a similar background doesn't make their potential dismissable.
However, I do strongly agree with unlimited access to population control. I think that all forms of birth control should be free. They can get rather expensive, depending on the type. Luckily, places like Planned Parenthood are willing to provide them cheaper if you are in a lower income bracket. But if it was completely free, and readily available (including to minors), I think there would be a great reduction in the number of accidents.
Along with this (although more controversial) is abortion being covered under a healthcare bill. While I personally don't fancy paying taxes to support someone else's abortion - I do see that the people who can't afford abortion are those people previously mentioned in this thread as having 8+ kids.
I think if they could afford the prevention, or the abortion of unwanted pregnancies (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legalized_abortion_and_crime_effect), there could possibly be less hoodlums.
Is it wrong that I am completely for racial equality but completely against racial mixing? No offense to any mixed-heritage users, but IMO i would want to be of full blood, no matter the race that the blood may be.
As a former vet tech, I can vouch that mutts are healthier than purebreds. Mixing up gene diversity is healthy. Keeping pools too pure is what leads to issues like Gottes Wille (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amish#Health) in the Amish. Keeping royal bloodlines "blue" has caused issues, too. I realize that you don't mean small scale here. "White", "black", "red", and "yellow" are large in number. But it's easy to get carried away, when you want to keep things full-blooded.
Besides, I must confess I find asians attractive. And when I was dating, I saw no reason to limit my options to one "type".
TL;DR - I have opinions about stuff.
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i don't believe in militant organizations so the Yakuza definitely disgusting. but the NAACP and black panthers are not disgusting. their purpose is not to discriminate against whites but to become equal. (though they are guilty of violence at some point i believe, the group as a whole does not go out and kill people)
sorry my mistake re-reading post. black panthers bad as well. militancy = bad.
and i think i just lost all respect i had for you..... if you're defending lynchers and one of the most notorious groups out there, i would not be surprised if you are guilty of neo-nazism. take that how you will.
What exactly does neo-nazism include?
The NAACP is not militant, but what about affirmative action? I work at FedEx Express and we recently trained a black lady. Turns out she cannot follow, and in fact defies, the rules and is a drain on our station. She even failed her training. However, we have to hire her. Guess why. Because we recently fired two black managers and if we fire another black employee the NAACP will have a sh*t fit and sue us for discrimination against "Colored People".
So this kind of bullying is ok in your book?
Using political force is ok, but not physical?
Also, when is the last time you heard of the KKK doing any lynching? Just curious.
i agree thats a messed up case. the south has a higher concentration of poor blacks than other parts of the nation. but not enough to justify the KKK. from what it sounds like you think the KKK is just a group of whites defending their race. Though they lack influence, id be willing to bet if they could return back to their glory days they'd be lynching blacks even today. they aren't there to defend, they are there to oppress, root out blacks and get rid of everyone who arent the same as themselves. in case you havent noticed there is discrimination against coloured people. you're a living example of this.
i think its ironic how you're talking about bullying. how much has racism bullied and how much has affirmative action bullied. YOU DUG THIS HOLE FOR YOURSELF. Free the slaves? Sorry grandfather clause and literacy tests. Jim Crow laws. Segregation. Racism. Blacks are poorer. Blacks have a harder time finding a job. The south is notorious for that. Even today the south is full of racists. don't even try to play the victim. that's just plain bull. whites are oppressing blacks. even today (jena 6)
affirmative action is there for a reason. tell me, how many blacks would have jobs if that didnt exist? why is it specifically the south needs affirmative action? if i were a blatant racist, i would have fired every black i could. you think affirmative action is unjust, then why dont you guys treat the blacks equal, you guys make affirmative action necessary. that's right, it's your fault. the american dream is a myth experienced by only 1% of the population. Those same blacks 150 years ago who were promised 40 acres and a mule are those down in the slums and the ghettos. maybe that particular situation is unjust, but couldn't you simply just find a different black? im sure you guys are given a reasonable time frame to find someone, unless perhaps you just hired any black person simply to satisfy the quota?
im not black either.
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I guess the fact that poor white people do badly as well as poor black people, and that rich white people do as well as rich black people has nothing to do with it, right?
Malthusianism has always been bull, too, and usually built into racism or elitism of some form. And the notion of an informed eugenicist wanting to narrow the gene pool is quite laughable.
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This thread has turned out to be just as entertaining as I thought it would be ;D
Also, OutFoxxed, whilst you're whining about isms you may wish to take a look at the way you've stereotyped people from the southern United States; it looks a little bigoted to me. One of the things that really grinds my gears nowadays is the way that so many people express one kind of prejudice under the guise of opposing another. Stereotyping a group of people as racist is just as wrong as the stereotyping you're accusing them of doing; in fact, it's worse because you're pretending to be open-minded when you do it.
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This thread has turned out to be just as entertaining as I thought it would be :-D
Also, OutFoxxed, whilst you're whining about isms you may wish to take a look at the way you've stereotyped people from the southern United States; it looks a little bigoted to me. One of the things that really grinds my gears nowadays is the way that so many people express one kind of prejudice under the guise of opposing another. Stereotyping a group of people as racist is just as wrong as the stereotyping you're accusing them of doing; in fact, it's worse because you're pretending to be open-minded when you do it.
that's not an -ism. the south is notorious for black hating. poverty is higher there. racists there are generally more outspoken (no KKK in the north). the south in the US is the former confederacy (seceded from the US because they were slaveholders), and it's generally known that the south is racist. the civil war didnt end well for the confederacy, and most of the racists and bigots still stayed racists and bigots. passed that on to their children. look up studies, in the south blacks are more likely to be a part of violent crime, more likely to be poor, more likely to be fatherless, all that in the south.in the US if you asked anyone here what part of the US is the most racist, 100 out of 100 will tell you it is the south.
of course im not saying all southerns are racists. there is most definitely a higher concentration down there.david duke for example was a former elected official to Louisiana i think, that wouldn't fly in the north or the midwest.
Kudistos, I don't think you understand how the US is. I don't think you know what you're talking about to be honest. there are studies saying the south is most racist. politicians, government w/e all acknowledge the south is racist. (affirmative action for blacks is based in the south because they would not employ blacks)
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According to the average racist, black people are "notorious" for being all sorts of bad things. According to the average racist, everyone "knows" that black people are inferior/less civilised/whatever. And it goes without saying that the average racist will be able to find some "studies" and point to events in history that back up what he says. Nope, you're just stereotyping.
PS. You seem to be ignoring the fact that white people are also more likely to commit crimes and be impoverished in the south. Does that mean that there is racism against white people in the south? It's a poorer part of the country, so of course that stuff is going to happen. All races are poorer in the south; it's economics, not racism. Way to take facts out of context in order to come to an incorrect conclusion.
PPS. Black people in Africa are more likely to be part of violent crimes and live in poverty than they are in the south of the US. Dunno 'bout being more likely to be fatherless, but certainly more likely to be involved in crimes and be poor. Do you think that African countries are racist against black people?
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@kudistos, i don't even know what you're talking about.
are you saying im using it as an excuse to call black people burdens on society? my point is that blacks have less opportunity and are poorer because of it. you obviously have very little knowledge of the south but if you want i can explain to you point by point how it works. or you can ask obesebear himself about racism in the south. the blacks ARE poorer there. the blacks are less privileged. come to the US before you try to dispel what you believe to be a myth. affirmative action is only in the south, because the government has concluded based on studies, public outcry, w/e that the south is discriminating against blacks. obviously not all businesses are like that but there are enough to make things bad.
perhaps what you fail to understand is that my point is about blacks having LESS OPPORTUNITY. not that they are failures or worse.
and by the way can you truly pinpoint economics as the sole cause? it may play a role by racism is also huge in the south. the government has studies, public outcry, whatever, all saying that south discriminates. in the 60's they publicly beat blacks set dogs on them and all that. the military was brought in the government interfered by racism still happens down there. (there is a reason, affirmative action exists and that is because the south is racist)
africa is a horrible example. not only are they different economically, socially, culturally, mentally and anything else you can think of, africa is probably one of the biggest opposites you can find to the civilized west. you cant compare them at all.
the south is racist. im stating the facts. im not putting a spin on it, im not using any euphemisms or fancy words to butter it up nor am i painting an image of pure evil and hate. statistics back this up. the existence KKK backs this up. look at any study, ask any american, and they will tell you the same. the south is becoming better these days, but there is still a higher concentration of racists in the south.
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@kudistos, i don't even know what you're talking about.
are you saying im using it as an excuse to call black people burdens on society? my point is that blacks have less opportunity and are poorer because of it. you obviously have very little knowledge of the south but if you want i can explain to you point by point how it works. or you can ask obesebear himself about racism in the south. the blacks ARE poorer there. the blacks are less privileged. come to the US before you try to dispel what you believe to be a myth. affirmative action is only in the south, because the government has concluded based on studies, public outcry, w/e that the south is discriminating against blacks. obviously not all businesses are like that but there are enough to make things bad.
perhaps what you fail to understand is that my point is about blacks having LESS OPPORTUNITY. not that they are failures or worse.
Reading comprehension really isn't your strong point is it?
I'm not sure what you think I said, but I can guarantee that it isn't what I actually said. My point was that the logic you use to stereotype people from the southern United States is exactly the same logic that racists use to stereotype black people. I don't see how you can see the problems with what racists say about black people and yet fail to see the problems with what you say about people from the south. Before you edited your previous post and backtracked on what you said, you made it pretty clear that you thought southerners were inherently racist just because some of them were and just because a lot of people say so, but did not think that black people were inherently bad just because they are disproportionately likely to commit crimes and just because a lot of people say so. Of course, you eventually edited your post to claim that you were only saying that there are more racists in the south, and when you did so you should have admitted that you shouldn't have made the generalisation. I'm sorry, but all the things you've said to justify the generalisation of southerners being racist are things that the "racists" you're speaking out against say in order to justify their generalisations of black people.
I'm really not sure how I feel about arguing with you. I mean, on the one hand it's very annoying because you don't read my posts and accuse me of saying things I haven't said and omitting things I haven't omitted (you, like Hermoor, like to compare the people you argue against to religious fundies, but your tendency to try to refute what you wish the other person said rather than what they actually said is very reminiscent of fundies). On the other hand, it's rather fun because you've obviously been indoctrinated to defend certain positions to the death and have absorbed everything that the more populist and less intelligent portions of the American left have told you to believe.
I can't wait to post this and see how you've edited your last post in order to backtrack, thinking that I won't know what you've done ;D
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Yay! I knew that your post would have doubled in length by the time I got the chance to reply to it 8)
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I can see this conversation getting out of hand.
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I can see this conversation getting out of hand.
Indeed ;D
But was a thread with the premise this one has every going to turn out well? ::)
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I can see this conversation getting out of hand.
Indeed ;D
But was a thread with the premise this one has every going to turn out well? ::)
Well i did see a pig fly the other day, but it was shot out of a cannon. So no, i guess not.
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Well, I don't have the patience right now to read through what seems to be Kudi-Chan and outfoxxed bickering like two love birds, but I wanted to give my opinion on this. I don't know if white people are going to get extinct in America :P in fact I think it's pretty improbable that it does happen. The natives of America got their land taken from them, but they still live among us. Being part inuit, I'm living proof of this. =P Anyhow, natives are encouraged to live amongst themselves, mostly in reserves, which encourages more pure native babies.
My point is, this might happen to "white people" in america if the number of immigrants gets much larger and overpowers the white race. I don't think they'd ever really get extinct... >.>
Oh, and also this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUjHWH8YccI
Red heads need to start getting it on! They need to live in reserves and make babies. ;D
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Well, I don't have the patience right now to read through what seems to be Kudi-Chan and outfoxxed bickering like two love birds
;D
We only do it out of love :P
And that ginger kid needs to lrn2dominant and recessive genes. All of those "blonds/gingers will be extinct in x amount of years time" theories are based on misunderstandings of genetics; unless something happens to stop people with those genes having children, they won't go extinct, although they may becomes less common.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUjHWH8YccI
Ahah, CopperCab!
Haven't heard from him in a while.
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@kudistos, i don't even know what you're talking about.
are you saying im using it as an excuse to call black people burdens on society? my point is that blacks have less opportunity and are poorer because of it. you obviously have very little knowledge of the south but if you want i can explain to you point by point how it works. or you can ask obesebear himself about racism in the south. the blacks ARE poorer there. the blacks are less privileged. come to the US before you try to dispel what you believe to be a myth. affirmative action is only in the south, because the government has concluded based on studies, public outcry, w/e that the south is discriminating against blacks. obviously not all businesses are like that but there are enough to make things bad.
perhaps what you fail to understand is that my point is about blacks having LESS OPPORTUNITY. not that they are failures or worse.
and by the way can you truly pinpoint economics as the sole cause? it may play a role by racism is also huge in the south. the government has studies, public outcry, whatever, all saying that south discriminates. in the 60's they publicly beat blacks set dogs on them and all that. the military was brought in the government interfered by racism still happens down there. (there is a reason, affirmative action exists and that is because the south is racist)
africa is a horrible example. not only are they different economically, socially, culturally, mentally and anything else you can think of, africa is probably one of the biggest opposites you can find to the civilized west. you cant compare them at all.
the south is racist. im stating the facts. im not putting a spin on it, im not using any euphemisms or fancy words to butter it up nor am i painting an image of pure evil and hate. statistics back this up. the existence KKK backs this up. look at any study, ask any american, and they will tell you the same. the south is becoming better these days, but there is still a higher concentration of racists in the south.
LMAO have you forgotten I have been from ALABAMA my WHOLE life(for those of you that don't know, you don't get more southern than Alabama, maybe Georgia and Tennessee would be equal, but not more.
As for everywhere Ive been, there are VERY ISOLATED spots of racism, like a VERY rural town that was only white people(you couldn't call it a town because it had nothing but 1 private-owned convenience store so you didn't have to drive 20 miles for gas,cigs,etc)Everyone that lives there is a SEVERE redneck.Half the towns population drinks all day,everyday, do meth, or crack.The other half are JUST as southern and redneck, but are fine upstanding citizens who have worked all their life and do not drink or do drugs.(I used to know some that everyone referred to a "Coon Hunters" because they liked to hunt raccoons at night with dogs on the weekend(southern thing I never really got))
Aside from this Isolated incident there is not much racism ANYWHERE.It has left with this generation STRONGLY.Sure a few remain, but not many, believe me, I know.Blacks and Whites are friends now, and there are even Latinos coming in strongly for the past 5 years until now it seems like the population ratio here is 1/2 white 1/4 black and 1/4 Latino(not counting the few seen Asians)
Whites are not even racist against Latinos at all, if they aren't making the community worse, we don't mind(most are illegal too, and everyone here knows it, most cannot speak English)The fact is whether you are white,black,brown,or purple, we don't really give a f*ck as long as your not a citizen that will degrade the quality of any community. When someone starts doing that, be it White,Black,Brown,or Purple, people get pissed ya know?
As for blacks having no opportunities? Are you SERIOUS? Lol here in the south nowadays the being a WHITE MALE is the most UNDESIRABLE employee you can have. Businesses get a LARGE tax credit for every white female, non-white male, and larger for non-white female. Somewhere like 1000$ for White Female, 2000$ Non white Male, and 2500$ for Non-white female
Consider your workforce includes 100 employees. If that entire workforce was white males, you would get no tax credits.
Now if your business was comprised of all non white-females(you cant do that but just imagine) Then you would be getting a 250,000$ tax reduction just for hiring Non-White employees.
There are also many grants,housing opportunities,General living assistance(paying bills, food, etc) Education opportunity, charities, etc set up to benefit Black people, that white people don't have access to.
Your view on the south is FAIL, much like when I went to California, they thought we were all crazy, and if you were walking down the road here and stepped onto someones property they would shoot you. MANY people had this impression while I was out there, like 1/2 or more of the people I met.
I'm just saying learn a little more about the world before you make generalizations on a large group of people or geographical location.
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Felt like posting this two, as i feel it's as the society is now:
(http://i49.tinypic.com/2ykdt91.jpg)
(http://i48.tinypic.com/33m32hy.jpg)
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Felt like posting this two, as i feel it's as the society is now:
(http://i49.tinypic.com/2ykdt91.jpg)
(http://i48.tinypic.com/33m32hy.jpg)
Although I may agree some of the views expressed in those images are VERY true, the image of the black baby was obviously drawn by a VERY RACIST person....