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Title: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: Yarow12 on 2011-06-25 22:33:25
My plan has changed tremendously. It's now more along the lines of joining movements down there like the Red Cross, and doing what I can through my own stride and with my own money like helping educate the children in anyway I can (having a school built), providing people with food and water, grow some crops, etc. I don't plan to help the entire continent anymore. I'll just pick a area that I believe I can be of the most use to and actually succeed with helping. I no longer plan on getting involved with the drug lords, politics, or "bandits" in any way.

As for my career, I'll be doing some form of technical drafting (not sure which one yet). On the side, I will work with 3D modeling, mapping, and art for video games. I don't plan on getting paid for this, it'll just be a hobby. I'll settle down and start a family whenever I'm ready. Until then, I'll be a virgin for life (abstinence). XD

Okay, here I go.

First of All

I don't know what I want to do career-wise. I've chosen to become a technical drafter. I'm not sure which specific area I'll be working with, though. >.> I am, however interested in nature and survival. I wouldn't mind living on a farm of my own and surviving off of it. I have very little interest in modern societies outside of video games and computer technology. I don't want a bank account, a tie, an expensive house accompanied by an expensive wife, and a car that costs more than the house. But most of all, I don't really know what I want. I've just recently actually developed a reason for living, the future, hopes, and dreams. Before this, I was willing to throw my life away at any given moment. Anyone could've pointed a gun at me, and I would've most likely told them to go f*ck themselves. :P I even challenged a guy to a duel (basically). It was more of a threat, though. I wanted us both to go to a forest with paintball guns, no armor or helmets, and kill eachother. I was thinking about climbing a tree after leading him towards a certain area and getting the drop on him, but before that I was thinking of freaking him out once it got dark since I'm dark toned and he's Caucasian. He was just an irritating person to me, and I wanted to get rid of him. I was very serious about the challenge, but he dropped the conversation. We're cool now.

Careers

I'm in high school, and will be a senior when school starts August 8th. I am interested in doing 3D modeling, mapping, and drawing characters for video games. All of these are things that I can develop throughout my life, though. I don't need to go to college for them. I am also interested in doing technical drafting, which pays very well regardless of which area of drafting I choose. I could make this a career and work on the others as I go by. I even have a RPG that I'm developing the plot to. I'm up to 8 front and back pages thus far and, after constant random mind blasts (lol), have finally taken a break from figuring out how everything will be. It's an idea that I'd like to incorporate into my own video game someday.

Hopes & Dreams

What I want to do is help people in a specific area of Africa, eradicate its "bandits" in the area (perhaps; somehow). destroy all drug trades or get the drug lords to help (again, somehow or perhaps not), get the child soldiers (mainly those who're with the "bandits") to join the revolution (I've changed my mind about this one), help get the people back on their feet (food, water, disease, rape, murder, etc.), get rid of the corrupt politics or just "bribe" them into helping (not exactly; scratching out the bribery part unless I can actually do that to someone who can help), help the "roots" by getting the children better education (I know that there are already school doing this), and turn Africa into one united nation (scratching that one out). Hopefully, I live long enough to make it all happen, but I don't know where to start. I know that I will need an armed force to deal with the "bandits," drug dealers (so they don't just kill me), politics, rapists, murderers, and whatever else comes my way (scratching out the armed force part and the rest that involve it). Right now, I'm thinking that I will need to start out by dropping into a specific area of Africa and take out the "bandits" in that area. One problem will be dealing with any child soldiers who may or may not be drugged. I'd rather make them part of the revolution as apposed to just killing them. Currently, I have no idea how I am going to get them on my side. They'll probably do what they were trained to do, kill us. They definitely won't listen if the men are around. We'll probably have to go in and slit some throats while knocking the children unconscious and ting them up. One way that I can unite the people, which just came to me, is by giving them an enemy, "white" people (changed my mind about this one >.>). I don't mean to have them running around hating and killing them, but to have them understand that we aren't our own enemies. I'm not sure about all of this yet, I have to figure it out as the days go by. After successfully eradicating the "bandits" in their own camp, I can have a temporary base (don't really plan on doing the eradication anymore). In fact, every "bandit" camp can be a base. After this, I can slowly make my way towards the nearest place that needs to be helped (food, water, rapists, etc.). Helping the people while moving around with an armed force will help politically as I continue on. This way, I can't be entirely branded as an enemy of Africa who's wishing to kill men, children, babies, and rape women. This is very likely of an accusation in my eyes.

So...

I'd like to make that dream come true, but I don't know where to start. I know I'll need money and power to get things done let alone form the army which I would not like to be composed entirely of mercenaries who have no interest in my dream. Any ideas on how to get the money? I just realized that this is pretty much similar to Mobile Suite Gundam 00 and Code Geass. :P Code Geass is more on the fiction side of a plan, though.

tl;dr: You Suck
Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: Kudistos Megistos on 2011-06-25 23:19:44
To achieve your dream, you'll need to do one of three things:

1. Win the lottery. 9001 times.

2. Found several successful multinational corporations.

3. Become president of the United States and find some way to give all power to the executive branch.

This is the amount of money or power you'll need if you want to unite a huge continent filled with hundreds of different languages and hundreds of ethnic groups that have nothing in common.

The first one of these three things is the most likely.
Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: Yarow12 on 2011-06-25 23:30:00
I hear you, but I'm still willing to go all the way with this. The way I see it, I have two options in life: become successful or actually make a difference in the world we live in.
Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: Bosola on 2011-06-25 23:46:49
...How old are you, Yarow?
Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: DarkFang on 2011-06-25 23:47:08
I think you've been watching TV shows too much...

People without money or power are nothing in this world. We can never change anything about the world, so why bother. Why would I even care? I'm just going to die sooner or later anyways so it won't be my problem. Leave it to the country's leaders.

Just my opinion.

EDIT: He's going to be a senior this August so I'm guessing 16 or 17.
Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: Bosola on 2011-06-25 23:54:37
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16 or 17

...Figures.
Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: Kudistos Megistos on 2011-06-26 00:23:41
If anyone had been bothered to look at his profile, they'd see that he claims to be 18
Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: Mako on 2011-06-26 03:19:53
Louisiana <---Explains allot. These folk are cut off from the rest of the US. Some say they even inbreed O_O.
Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: sl1982 on 2011-06-26 11:05:02
That is uncalled for mako.
Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: Yarow12 on 2011-06-26 15:11:34
...How old are you, Yarow?
18 this may.
I think you've been watching TV shows too much...

People without money or power are nothing in this world. We can never change anything about the world, so why bother. Why would I even care? I'm just going to die sooner or later anyways so it won't be my problem. Leave it to the country's leaders.

Just my opinion.

EDIT: He's going to be a senior this August so I'm guessing 16 or 17.
Wow, you sound like a piece of shit IMHO. Seriously, and I already said that I'm going to need money and power, I get that. Why let a sh*tty world stay sh*tty instead of trying to do something about it?

If anyone had been bothered to look at his profile, they'd see that he claims to be 18
lol I am.
Louisiana <---Explains allot. These folk are cut off from the rest of the US. Some say they even inbreed O_O.
Very uncalled for indeed.

I'm trying to do something with my life that will do more than just increase my wealth and the wealth of my expensive wife. What were your hopes and dreams, guys/gals? Did you even try?

I'll be revising the main post later on today. I've posted on perhaps 7 different sites, and have gotten very helpful feedback that have made me rethink some things. Life's a process, and so are plans.
Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: Mako on 2011-06-26 15:35:48
That is uncalled for mako.
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Very uncalled for indeed.

I apologize  :oops: dunno what I was thinking. I am very sorry.
Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: Opine on 2011-06-26 16:19:50
Wow, you sound like a piece of shit IMHO.
Before you go around pointing at "uncalled for" quotes...

Anyway, you don't need to come from money and power to make a difference. But you will need to acquire it along the way.

If you really truly want to do something huge and important it is going to take a consistent huge amount of effort on your part.

My favorite biography is that of Monty Roberts. Monty started out a farm boy with an abusive father. He ended up being praised by the queen of England. It's truly inspirational if you have an aspiration that seems impossible.
He was told time and again that what he wanted to do was impossible. He was beaten by his father in hopes he'd abandon his dreams, his teacher gave him an F when he wrote a paper stating what he wanted to do. He nearly starved to death, living off nothing but metrocal shakes for months. He even got imprisoned along the way. But he ended up changing the way we domesticate horses forever, and all around the world.

If you want to make a big difference, you will have to make that your main priority. No one can make a difference, on the side. I don't think you could get a job working with games, and still save Africa in your spare time.

If you really want to work with Africa, I would start by looking at volunteer opportunities there. You could do a study abroad in Africa while you're in college. And join the Peace Corps once you graduate. I'm sure there's a way you could be a positive figure there. But be prepared to spend your whole life working at it.
Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: Bosola on 2011-06-26 16:27:23
ITT: OP thinks himself a latter-day Cassandra.

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Did you even try?

Of course! That's why your goal of 'uniting' a disparate and heterogeneous continent like Africa has never been achieved before - you're the first person to actually think of it. Yes, that must be the reason. Not because there's a morass of geopolitical, material, cultural, economic and historical barriers. No, it's just you're the first person to bother. The fact you've no concrete plan nor well-reasoned thinking about why Africa is 'fragmented' in the first place doesn't matter. It must just be you're more willful than any of the other six-or-so billion individuals on earth.

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You sound like a piece of shit IMHO

In my not-so-humble opinion as global moderator, further insults like that will get you moderated against. Cut it out.
Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: Jaitsu on 2011-06-26 17:03:27
if you wanna make a difference in this world, the place to start is not a forum dedicated to a square enix video game.

you want the money and power to accomplish any dream, you have to get up off your butt, go out, and take what you want.


PS: oh guys, i don't mean to be rude but can we lay off the teenager insults, after all i am 18 myself.
Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: DarkFang on 2011-06-26 18:23:44
Wow, you sound like a piece of shit IMHO.
I'm glad we could have a mature discussion about this without becoming too childish and turn to name-calling.

Honestly, it's probably just a teenage phase. We all have them. Like me, and my emo-ness. I'm gonna have to change sooner or later, sadly.
Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: Yarow12 on 2011-06-27 02:05:16
I apologize  :oops: dunno what I was thinking. I am very sorry.
Apology excepted. ^^

In my not-so-humble opinion as global moderator, further insults like that will get you moderated against. Cut it out.
Duly noted.

I'm glad we could have a mature discussion about this without becoming too childish and turn to name-calling.
I said what I said because of my honest opinion towards the person who insulted me with his/her impotence, for lack of a batter word. Re-read what you typed and tell me that doesn't just sound... sad. It made you, in that instant, seem like the type of person who was, and still is, too afraid and unwilling to go for his/her hopes and dreams. It's very pathetic to me, and it made me think of you as a... turd. I really dislike saying this, but no offense. Now, I've been shot at a bunch of times so far because of my topic on various websites already, so don't even bother. :P

"People without money or power are nothing in this world. We can never change anything about the world, so why bother. Why would I even care? I'm just going to die sooner or later anyways so it won't be my problem. Leave it to the country's leaders."
Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: DLPB_ on 2011-06-27 02:08:04
To achieve your dream, you'll need to do one of three things:

1. Win the lottery. 9001 times.

2. Found several successful multinational corporations.

3. Become president of the United States and find some way to give all power to the executive branch.

This is the amount of money or power you'll need if you want to unite a huge continent filled with hundreds of different languages and hundreds of ethnic groups that have nothing in common.

The first one of these three things is the most likely.

Unfortunately Kud is right.  I am afraid the OP is utterly naive.  We all were at one time or another, but at 18 it is time to enter the real world.

There are ways to correct a lot of the worlds problems, but for the most part it is better to let these places like Africa live on their own.  No aid. No help.  Its own people and that of other similar countries, must take account of their own problems and fix them.

It is not my concern.
Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: poofacetherisen on 2011-06-27 02:10:02
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Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: Yarow12 on 2011-06-27 02:11:38
Unfortunately Kud is right.  I am afraid the OP is utterly naive.  We all were at one time or another, but at 18 it is time to enter the real world.

I'd honestly like to know what your hopes and dreams were at some point, if you don't mind. What did you want to be when you were a kid? I wanted to be an actor. Not sure why. It wasn't the fame, but it might have been just a desire to be able to go where ever and buy whatever. I was young then. At some point, I realized something about the life of an actor, and decided not to become one.

My main post has been revised. Hence the red.
Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: DLPB_ on 2011-06-27 02:14:03
I had a few dreams, and I ain't give up on em.  Small things.  To write a best seller, to program a game (didn't matter which or how good), to make a lot of money.

I have done 1 of those, I learned to program simple games and that made me happy.  Making a lot of money probably goes with the other but my real goal in life is to be happy, and I am.  I have a great family behind me. 

I have no care whatsoever for any other persons country.  My own, I do care about.   I care about those close to me and my country.  Everything else can go on how it likes as long as it stays away from me.
Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: DarkFang on 2011-06-27 02:29:05
I said what I said because of my honest opinion towards the person who insulted me with his/her impotence, for lack of a batter word. Re-read what you typed and tell me that doesn't just sound... sad. It made you, in that instant, seem like the type of person who was, and still is, too afraid and unwilling to go for his/her hopes and dreams.
Too afraid or unwilling? It's not like that at all. I care about my dreams and goals. One day I will achieve these dreams and goals, unlike you. Because my dreams and goals are a lot more realistic than yours. I'm not trying to unite a whole entire continent full of people. The only possible way you could ever accomplish this is if you were some sort of deity.

I'll give you a few years. You'll look back at this "dream" of yours and think it was preposterous.

EDIT: And I never insulted you personally. I insulted the entire global population. Ones without money or power are nothing in this world.
Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: Yarow12 on 2011-06-27 03:09:53
Too afraid or unwilling? It's not like that at all. I care about my dreams and goals. One day I will achieve these dreams and goals, unlike you. Because my dreams and goals are a lot more realistic than yours. I'm not trying to unite a whole entire continent full of people. The only possible way you could ever accomplish this is if you were some sort of deity.

I'll give you a few years. You'll look back at this "dream" of yours and think it was preposterous.

EDIT: And I never insulted you personally. I insulted the entire global population.
Interesting, but by all means you did insult me personally. Think about it.

Ones without money or power are nothing in this world.
They are still human, they still have their families, lives, love, trust, dignity, dreams, and faith. This is me proving you wrong. But seriously, I just completely disagree with that fact/opinion of yours. I can see where you're coming from with it, though, but the way I see it people are still something regardless of how much around them they can control and rule over (money and power basically). The smallest spec of dust is something and so is a flea, in my understanding atleast. Now, of course, fleas and dust are swiped away and killed because those with the power to do so find them to be a nuisance (as do I). I just apparently have a different understanding of the word "nothing" than you do apparently. Thus, I actually didn't prove you wrong at all, did I? :P
Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: Jaitsu on 2011-06-27 04:10:05
dude, if your trying to sound like some kind of epic dreamer, your doing it in the wrong place. simple as that.
Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: Yarow12 on 2011-06-27 04:29:06
Uhm, no, actually, I was just trying to get some advice from people I assumed have some experience with living regardless whether this forum is dedicated to a video game or not. Should I not expect you all to be able to give good life advice?
Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: Jaitsu on 2011-06-27 04:32:40
Uhm, no, actually, I was just trying to get some advice from people I assumed have some experience with living regardless whether this forum is dedicated to a video game or not. Should I not expect you all to be able to give good life advice?

not to put anyone here down, but your asking advice on following ones dream from guys who regularily talk about some of the troubles they are having in life, if you want advice, there are much better places to go, there are most definately people who can give good advice here, but if i were you, i'd search for it somewhere else.
Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: Yarow12 on 2011-06-27 04:40:21
I have, trust me. I've posted on nine different forums. :P
Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: DarkFang on 2011-06-27 05:27:58
And were the eight other forums video game related forums?

Why don't you go see a counselor if you want to talk about your life so much?
Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: Yarow12 on 2011-06-27 05:48:49
Six are related to video games, three aren't, and two of the three have sub-forums involving video games.
I've already spoken with my parents about it yesterday. Do you have a problem with me? It seems like you do.
I thought people would think more positive of my hopes and dreams considering my revision, but oh willies. I don't think it's too big or too small. Whether it works out or not, I'm going for it.
Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: DarkFang on 2011-06-27 06:03:29
I have no problem with you. I have no problem with your dreams and whatever you do with your life. I mean it's your life, if you want to waste it trying to accomplish something practically impossible, then go right ahead. But if you want your dream to become known to everyone and for the whole world to take effect from your actions, why are you posting it on a small community dedicated to modding Final Fantasy games?

I'm gonna say this is a troll. If you want to be serious about this dream of yours talk to someone who will actually listen and not think you're absolutely out of your mind. I mean really, what did you expect when you posted this dream on numerous different forums? Did you think you were going to get followers of your dream? Like you would have a small rebel group at your disposal?

And may I ask what your parents said when you told them your dream?
Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: Yarow12 on 2011-06-27 06:30:04
I posted it here because I wanted input and advice on it. I just don't doubt a forum filled with "game-heads" to lack any intelligent people, and thanks to those intelligent people I've been able to think more clearly on my hopes & dreams and improve them. Haha, jokes on you. I'm joking. >.>
No, I didn't expect any followers. WTF? lol
I told my parents the revised part of my dream including my career plans.
Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: DarkFang on 2011-06-27 06:33:08
Just because I don't agree with you doesn't make me not intelligent. In this case, it's quite the opposite.

What was your parents response?
Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: Yarow12 on 2011-06-27 06:39:15
That's not what I mean at all.
I told them both my career plans, and we had a discussion about it. My mother was inside by time I mentioned my hopes & dreams, so I just told my dad. He didn't really say anything. Why do you ask?
Care to tell me about your past and current hopes & dreams, career plans, and your parents reactions to them?
lol Your avatar's the first thing I see everytime I come back to reply. It's just funny considering how "serious" the conversation is.
Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: DarkFang on 2011-06-27 06:56:51
I'm surprised your parents haven't gone to seek professional help for you.

My goal and dream is to live freely in the land of Equestria. Not just in the land of Equestria, but a little more specific, in Ponyville. I with to be a Pegasus unicorn like Princess Celestia. I want to frolic in the garden and meet friendly animals with Fluttershy. I want to fly around in the sky at the speed of light with Rainbow Dash. I want to help Applejack pick all kinds of apples and eat all sorts of apple products. I want to be a fashion consultant alongside Rarity. I want to party all the time like Pinkie Pie. And I want to find true friends like Twilight Sparkle. This is quite a beautiful dream. I will do all that's in my power to make this come true.

One day I wish to become the Prince of Equestria, rising the sun in the morning, then rising the moon at night. My parents think it's a lovely dream. They've always told me I could become the Prince of Equestria one day. I believe they could be correct.

This is how impractical your dream sounded to me.
Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: Yarow12 on 2011-06-27 16:18:29
I'm surprised your parents haven't gone to seek professional help for you.

My goal and dream is to live freely in the land of Equestria. Not just in the land of Equestria, but a little more specific, in Ponyville. I with to be a Pegasus unicorn like Princess Celestia. I want to frolic in the garden and meet friendly animals with Fluttershy. I want to fly around in the sky at the speed of light with Rainbow Dash. I want to help Applejack pick all kinds of apples and eat all sorts of apple products. I want to be a fashion consultant alongside Rarity. I want to party all the time like Pinkie Pie. And I want to find true friends like Twilight Sparkle. This is quite a beautiful dream. I will do all that's in my power to make this come true.

One day I wish to become the Prince of Equestria, rising the sun in the morning, then rising the moon at night. My parents think it's a lovely dream. They've always told me I could become the Prince of Equestria one day. I believe they could be correct.

"And I'm the one who needs help. >.>"

This is how impractical your dream sounded to me.

ROFLMAO! Nice. Did you re-read my main post yet? 'Cause you sound like you're just... yeah. I disagree completely, but alas it matters not for I will do as I please and so will you.
Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: Jaitsu on 2011-06-27 17:06:39
"And I'm the one who needs help. >.>"

ROFLMAO! Nice. Did you re-read my main post yet? 'Cause you sound like you're just... yeah. I disagree completely, but alas it matters not for I will do as I please and so will you.

this is exactly why you should have expected to get blasted in a forum.
Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: Yarow12 on 2011-06-27 17:11:49
Not sure what the reason "why" is, but okay.

My plan has changed tremendously. It's now more along the lines of joining movements down there like the Red Cross, and doing what I can through my own stride and with my own money like helping educate the children in anyway I can (having a school built), providing people with food and water, grow some crops, etc. I don't plan to help the entire continent anymore. I'll just pick a area that I believe I can be of the most use to and actually succeed with helping. I no longer plan on getting involved with the drug lords, politics, or "bandits" in any way.
As for my career, I'll be doing some form of technical drafting (not sure which one yet). On the side, I will work with 3D modeling, mapping, and art for video games. I don't plan on getting paid for this, it'll just be a hobby. I'll settle down and start a family whenever I'm ready. Until then, I'll be a virgin for life (abstinence). XD
Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: obesebear on 2011-06-27 17:59:42
Nice revision.  You'll notice as you get older that your hopes and dreams slowly (and sometimes dramatically) change as life throws its inevitable curve balls at you.  Few and far between are the people who shoot for the moon and actually achieve it.    Big dreams are all well and good, but the more life experiences you check off your list, the more you'll realize the best bet for achieving any of it is to take it small steps at a time and be happy with whatever amount of it you are able to accomplish.

Of course the other option is to not change or adapt and stick with shooting for the stars, but then you're more likely to be bitter about your failure, and will have wasted many precious years for nothing.
Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: Bosola on 2011-06-27 18:16:39
Becoming extraordinary is not a matter of of will or personality. You have to have it, certainly, but it's all for naught if not accompanied by luck. As most can't garner this sort of fortune, it's probably more realistic to try and make a modest contribution to affairs with small, but serious good deeds here and there.

I could divulge more about this, but you don't need to hear about my problems. What you do need to ask yourself is this: why is it so, so intolerable that you might not be the greatest figure of the twenty-first century?
Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: Armorvil on 2011-06-27 19:50:58
To expand on what Bosola said, you need luck of course, but you also need to learn how to seize opportunities. You have to dare in life, and not be afraid to talk to people (like, to your boss). People who get promoted are rarely the more competent ones ; people who get promoted are just the ones bosses like most (and I'm not throwing rocks at them - it's understandable that you'd want to work with your friends / people you feel good with).

In other words, no matter what your dreams are, you'll never be able to realize them without the right acquaintances. You need to be social, to jump on every opportunity, and to have a lot of luck (be at the right place at the right time).

In my personal case, I might only have the latter (and even though, I don't believe in "luck", only in statistics) - but I'm far from being unhappy : my dreams are modest ones, and I'm working on realizing them. The important thing in life is to feel good on a day to day basis, and to feel useful in the society you're living in. So yeah, joining the Red Cross is a good idea in my book.
Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: jeffdamann on 2011-06-27 20:47:11
Louisiana <---Explains allot. These folk are cut off from the rest of the US. Some say they even inbreed O_O.

Mako, I hate to continue on this after you apologized, but I live in deeply rural ALABAMA.
If louisianna is so-called bad, then we would be much worse.

Alabama is a beautiful state, with good people.I have never once in my 23 years met an inbred person. I lived in california for a few months, and let me tell you, Id be much quicker to believe inbreeding is going on in that crazy upside down place than here,

Not bagging on CALI, my wife is from there and I loved it, but people are CRAZY there, they werent raised in Southern Baptist Christian households and raised to be good people. Maybe 50% of the population was raised to be good people, and you can tell it.

Put it this way, In cali I was at a friends house who happened to sell low-priced, low grade weed. We were watching T.V. and at about 2am on a weekday this 10 y.o. kid knocks on the door.

He comes in and he is trippin on extascy so hard that its RIDICULOUS!He was bouncing off of every wall talking abouit "Im so effed up on E right now!"

He came to buy 5$ worth of weed and only had 3.28 and haggled with my friend until  he said "here just take it and go".

My friend told me if I ever saw 10+ 10 y.o.'s on the corner on bicycles, to stay away, because they form gangs at that age(and have guns, and will rob you)

10 year olds doing extascy at 2am on a schoolnight and being in gangs with guns and robbing people? Yeah the south is a backwards and cut-off place then. Glad we dont have all that craziness here.

Read this and understand it mako and your apology is accepted on my end.
Please feel free to argue any points brought up in this discussion.(Im here to educate)

Also on the inbreeding thing..Ive been from AL my entire life, want me to take a picture of my SAT and ACT scores? Im willing to bet no one on here has them beat.(I was certified a genius at 7 years old and was placed in a gifted curriculum ever since)
Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: Kudistos Megistos on 2011-06-27 20:58:20
Not bagging on CALI, my wife is from there and I loved it, but people are CRAZY there, they werent raised in Southern Baptist Christian households and raised to be good people.

(http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/9496/canttellifsarcasm.jpg)
Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: Opine on 2011-06-27 20:59:04
they werent raised in Southern Baptist Christian households and raised to be good people. Maybe 50% of the population was raised to be good people, and you can tell it.

Being raised a certain religious belief ≠ being good people.
I know that's not exactly the point you are making. But I just wanted to point out that plenty of good people come out of households without strict religious beliefs.
And plenty of gang members walk around with crosses on their necks.
Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: Kudistos Megistos on 2011-06-27 21:03:49
And another thing.

Jeff claims to have been in prison on drug charges, and it seems that he was buying drugs in this anecdote, but he is judging Californians and talking about the virtues of a Southern Baptist Christian upbringing. lol
Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: Mako on 2011-06-27 21:40:06
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Also on the inbreeding thing..Ive been from AL my entire life, want me to take a picture of my SAT and ACT scores?
I don't see the correlation with my bad joke but ok. On that same note, I will take your bet. Alabama has always ranked slightly higher then NY in the SAT department. But the particapation in those exams by Alabama is only 9% as N.Y is 89%.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/education/2007-08-28-sat-table_N.htm

 Also there standards I'm sure. Like for instance nursing, if I got my license in say Alabama (for the most part anyway) would not be recognized in N.Y at all.  But a licence in N.Y is recognized around the US! Why? Cause the testing standards in Alabama are considered way to low. :( There are exceptions to this rule. But it is on a per case basis. As NY is one of the the Highest in the country we are recognized everywhere.

I'd imagine is it very similar to the SAT's, some states have higher testing standards, while others do not.... For the record the exams might be the same. But that doesn't mean the teacher leaves the room for the duration of the exam. Or forgets to check to see if you are carrying a smartphone...

But it was just a joke... a bad one at that... and I did say I was sorry.

Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: Kudistos Megistos on 2011-06-27 21:54:04
I don't see the correlation with my bad joke but ok. On that same note, I will take your bet. Alabama has always ranked slightly higher then NY in the SAT department. But the particapation in those exams by Alabama is only 9% as N.Y is 89%.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/education/2007-08-28-sat-table_N.htm

 Also there standards I'm sure. Like for instance nursing, if I got my license in say Alabama (for the most part anyway) would not be recognized in N.Y at all.  But a licence in N.Y is recognized around the US! Why? Cause the testing standards in Alabama are considered way to low. :( There are exceptions to this rule. But it is on a per case basis. As NY is one of the the Highest in the country we are recognized everywhere.

I'd imagine is it very similar to the SAT's, some states have higher testing standards, while others do not.... For the record the exams might be the same. But that doesn't mean the teacher leaves the room for the duration of the exam. Or forgets to check to see if you are carrying a smartphone...

But it was just a joke... a bad one at that... and I did say I was sorry.

That might be fruitless. I once had a beef with Jeff about his boasting and challenged him to show his glorious SAT certificate; instead, he asked obesebear to lock the thread.

And if you want a laugh, look at the stats for Jackson's gap in Alabama:

http://www.city-data.com/city/Jacksons-Gap-Alabama.html

Population in July 2009: 767 (this town is barely bigger than my primary school)

For population 25 years and over in Jacksons' Gap:
High school or higher: 49.5%
Bachelor's degree or higher: 4.8%
Graduate or professional degree: 1.9%

(that's right; half of adults haven't graduated from high school)
Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: Mako on 2011-06-27 22:11:05
767!? Geez! Here in NY we got more people then that in a local walmart!?
Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: Yarow12 on 2011-06-27 22:39:11
What you do need to ask yourself is this: why is it so, so intolerable that you might not be the greatest figure of the twenty-first century?
Why? Because Stan Bush told me so (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZKpByV5764&feature=related). JK XD
It isn't intolerable, and I the way I see it I'm a human male just like everyone else and will die just like everyone else. I know a guy who meets that short description of yours, though. It's so irritating how he is. >.< I'd really like to witness his demise. But anyway, I've been called dumb and considered as such for my entire high school years thus for. I don't expect it to change. Some people have their reasons for believing such things, and others are just idiots themselves. I worry not what other people care of me, only how they treat me. Funny how the two go and hand in hand.

@Armorvil: lol Dare (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLhp0US_Hj0). >.>

Wow, for the SAT, Louisiana has a participation rate of 7, math average of 567, critical reading average of 569, and a writing average of 563. This ain't so bad. How can I get my hands on more statistical information such as this?

I didn't know there were 67 registered sex offenders in Slidell (http://www.city-data.com/city/Slidell-Louisiana.html). You'd think it'd be on the city page or something. >.>
Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: Mako on 2011-06-27 22:52:21
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Wow, for the SAT, Louisiana has a participation rate of 7, math average of 567, critical reading average of 569, and a writing average of 563. This ain't so bad. How can I get my hands on more statistical information such as this?
I think that's pretty low considering the participation rate =/

I dunno where to get more info... but (and this might be false) there is this magical place that has TONS of info, where you can sit in the privacy of your own home and gather said facts... but this place if of myth I am sure of it. :D
Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: Kudistos Megistos on 2011-06-27 22:54:09
I didn't know there were 67 registered sex offenders in Slidell (http://www.city-data.com/city/Slidell-Louisiana.html). You'd think it'd be on the city page or something. >.>

Your town has a disgraceful crime rate in general.

And I lol'd when I saw how unobservant your Catholics are. ;D
Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: Yarow12 on 2011-06-27 22:57:36
And I lol'd when I saw how unobservant your Catholics are. ;D
Unobservant? Towards what?
Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: Kudistos Megistos on 2011-06-27 22:59:31
Unobservant? Towards what?

Their church. Adherents make up 53.2% of the Slidell population, but only 11.3% of Slidellians attend Catholic services. Barely 1/5 of the town's Catholics practice their religion.
Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: jeffdamann on 2011-06-27 22:59:51
That might be fruitless. I once had a beef with Jeff about his boasting and challenged him to show his glorious SAT certificate; instead, he asked obesebear to lock the thread.

And if you want a laugh, look at the stats for Jackson's gap in Alabama:

http://www.city-data.com/city/Jacksons-Gap-Alabama.html

Population in July 2009: 767 (this town is barely bigger than my primary school)

For population 25 years and over in Jacksons' Gap:
High school or higher: 49.5%
Bachelor's degree or higher: 4.8%
Graduate or professional degree: 1.9%

(that's right; half of adults haven't graduated from high school)

I dont recall getting a topic locked, Id like to see it though, maybe you are right.

I will dig up my old test scores in a bit and take pictures, needless to say I blew the whole state away.

As far as Jacksons Gap stats, you cant look at those, this isnt even a town....
You need to look at Alexander City, AL. Its 5 mins from here and is where I was educated and born.

I will produce my stats for you later this afternoon.

And when I was taking these tests(2005) No one had smartphones or even phones with internet connections. Also, have you ever taken these tests? Imagine NOT using your brain and trying to search for the answers, will probably average you around 5 mins per question, which means you finish maybe half the test.

As far as me going on brain power, most questions were answered before even reading the entire question/multiple choice. I average around 5-10 seconds per question.

Testing is very strict here. And the ACT and SAT is universal. Every state takes the same test...

The smartphone and test arguements are invalid.

As far as the southern baptist thing goes, no I wasnt raised strictly religious. But I know many who were, and they are good people. They dont let their 10 y.o do drugs or even be in a position to know what drugs are or get into that.

I have many faults(drug use) But I have never seen some of the appalling things I saw in cali.
I also met a 14 y.o. crackhead...... Plus Homeless EVERYWHERE! They mustve made good life decisions.
As apposed to Alabama, I have NEVER ONCE seen a homeless in this state, although FEW do exist in Birmingham/Montgomery/ Maybe Mobile.
It seems like 25% of cali's population is homeless.

There are just as many drug users here, but not at such a young age, not even at my age(23). Most heavy users are in their 40's.I only smoke pot.

I dont know how much travelling you guys have done, but I have lived in 6 different states now and some far from the south. The south wins. All other people do is speculate and say inbred, and thats how you will always think of it in your ignorance. Why not gather enough info before you make such a grossly misstated opinion?
Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: pyrozen on 2011-06-27 23:07:30
those are some pretty lofty goals my friend, none if which are impossible, but extremely difficult. The best advice i can give you is the same I recently figured out on my own. Quit trying to do something and just do it. Very Yoda-ish i know, but if you REALLY get it then you should know exactly what you need to do to get where you want to be, and if your not willing to make big sacrifices for it, then you'll never make it.
Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: Yarow12 on 2011-06-27 23:11:12
(..) I have NEVER ONCE seen a homeless in this state...
You forgot "person".
Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: Kudistos Megistos on 2011-06-27 23:18:04
I dont recall getting a topic locked, Id like to see it though, maybe you are right.

http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=10130.msg141521#msg141521

I will dig up my old test scores in a bit and take pictures, needless to say I blew the whole state away.

Can't wait to see this.

I love how you say "blew the whole state away"; how hard can it be to be the smartest kid in Alabama?

As far as Jacksons Gap stats, you cant look at those, this isnt even a town....
You need to look at Alexander City, AL. Its 5 mins from here and is where I was educated and born.

I love how Americans use the word "city". That's barely even a small town.

And please accept my most gracious apologies. It seems that you were educated in a town with a population of 15,000, where only 1/3 of the population failed to graduate from high school. Clearly, a cosmopolitan city full of geniuses!

As far as the southern baptist thing goes, no I wasnt raised strictly religious. But I know many who were, and they are good people. They dont let their 10 y.o do drugs or even be in a position to know what drugs are or get into that.

That lovely town where you were educated has a very high crime rate and a lot of murders.

I have many faults(drug use) But I have never seen some of the appalling things I saw in cali.
I also met a 14 y.o. crackhead...... Plus Homeless EVERYWHERE! They mustve made good life decisions.

Pfft, big cities always have more extremes. They have more extremes of prosperity, too.

As apposed to Alabama, I have NEVER ONCE seen a homeless in this state, although FEW do exist in Birmingham/Montgomery/ Maybe Mobile.
It seems like 25% of cali's population is homeless.

I'd love to see some stats on that California figure. You're claiming that there are almost 10million homeless people in California.

And maybe the reason why there are so few homeless people in Alabama is because the houses only cost $10?

I dont know how much travelling you guys have done, but I have lived in 6 different states now and some far from the south. The south wins. All other people do is speculate and say inbred, and thats how you will always think of it in your ignorance. Why not gather enough info before you make such a grossly misstated opinion?

Your experience of those different states seems to be very limited. You're basing your opinion of the whole of California, a state bigger than many countries, on the few months you spend living in a crack house.

True, California has some of the worst poverty spots in the Western world, but it also has some of the best places to live.
Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: Yarow12 on 2011-06-27 23:25:56
What's a "Hermoor"? o.O
Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: Kudistos Megistos on 2011-06-27 23:33:00
What's a "Hermoor"? o.O

The most insane troll in history.

I can't adequately describe him to you, because you won't believe me, and I can't show you what he did, because the moderators covered up all the evidence of his misbehaviour (thus making it easier for him to gain sympathy).

He has been banned from multiple forums, spends all day fighting on the internet, is a neo-Nazi who wants to live in the forest having sex with blond Vikings, who thinks he is the next Jesus and can teach everyone the secrets of life (he thinks these secrets have been revealed to him) and who wants to destroy these forums. He has said many times that he wants to kill members of these forums. This isn't a case of jokingly saying "I'll kill you" and not meaning it; he really wants to kill us. I have never seen a human being with such a huge ego, and I have never seen anyone filled with such hate. What I have told you doesn't convey even a tenth of the evil that is Hermoor; you have to see him to believe it.

If you ask the mods, they'll tell you that he is a poor innocent victim of cyber bullying who should be given another chance. Sure, the last ten times he came here he threatened to kill us and spammed the forum with porn and gore, but he might behave himself next time.
Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: Cupcake on 2011-06-28 00:04:58
The most insane troll in history.

I can't adequately describe him to you, because you won't believe me, and I can't show you what he did, because the moderators covered up all the evidence of his misbehaviour (thus making it easier for him to gain sympathy).

He has been banned from multiple forums, spends all day fighting on the internet, is a neo-Nazi who wants to live in the forest having sex with blond Vikings, who thinks he is the next Jesus and can teach everyone the secrets of life (he thinks these secrets have been revealed to him) and who wants to destroy these forums. He has said many times that he wants to kill members of these forums. This isn't a case of jokingly saying "I'll kill you" and not meaning it; he really wants to kill us. I have never seen a human being with such a huge ego, and I have never seen anyone filled with such hate. What I have told you doesn't convey even a tenth of the evil that is Hermoor; you have to see him to believe it.

If you ask the mods, they'll tell you that he is a poor innocent victim of cyber bullying who should be given another chance. Sure, the last ten times he came here he threatened to kill us and spammed the forum with porn and gore, but he might behave himself next time.

And then he -was- given another chance, dicked it up, using Jari (who has also gone off the deep end) as a trump card, and then they both wound up getting banned.

Funny thing is, I have this feeling that if any of us actually saw Hermoor in person... we'd be able to kick his ass without breaking a sweat.
Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: sl1982 on 2011-06-28 01:24:14
If you ask the mods, they'll tell you that he is a poor innocent victim of cyber bullying who should be given another chance. Sure, the last ten times he came here he threatened to kill us and spammed the forum with porn and gore, but he might behave himself next time.

Hermoor has used up that chance. He will not be given another.
Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: DLPB_ on 2011-06-28 02:01:32
The truth is hermoor would not have been as bad as he was except for the goading and baiting which brought him back again and again.  he was a complete ass the last time he was here but I think all could have been avoided or at least a huge amount of it had we had the mods we do today.
Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: jeffdamann on 2011-06-28 03:05:20
Good Job Kudistos, as I recall I had that thread locked because of talking about marijuana, you guys responded in the typical close-minded fashion, so I decided not to push things further.

Also I dont appreciate you saying I lived in crack houses. Ive never done any drug but marijuana.

As far as there not having extremes here,lmao. I live 15 minutes away from HUNDREDS(ok maybe more like ~80) of multi-million dollar mansions that rival Hollywood mansions.

Proof:
http://lakemartinvoice.com/2009/01/22/richard-scrushys-lake-martin-home-on-cnbc-american-greed/ (http://lakemartinvoice.com/2009/01/22/richard-scrushys-lake-martin-home-on-cnbc-american-greed/)
http://www.lakemartin.com/RealEstate/Default.asp (http://www.lakemartin.com/RealEstate/Default.asp) - Search with price range 900,000 to max, hell most land is like 3mil, thats like 2 acres lol.

So your 10$ home argument doesnt fly,its rather completely absurd.

Have not located my test results, but have located my GED results(and before you attempt to make fun of that, let me explain)
I got my GED at 17 because I was getting into a LOT of trouble at school, and one day when in ISS(in-school suspension) I told the teacher my mother would b*tchslap her. They took this as a threat to a board employee and attempted to make me spend my last year and a half of school in alternative school.So I went ahead and got my GED)

Also found were all the documents about me skipping grades, and gifted classes, and a short story I wrote at 4 years old in preschool using 7th grade+ grammar. So I can take a quick snapshot of any of these upon request. Still searching for SAT and ACT.

Also, hermoor sucks!
Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: -Ric- on 2011-06-28 07:11:27
He has been banned from multiple forums, spends all day fighting on the internet, is a neo-Nazi who wants to live in the forest having sex with blond Vikings, who thinks he is the next Jesus and can teach everyone the secrets of life (he thinks these secrets have been revealed to him) and who wants to destroy these forums. He has said many times that he wants to kill members of these forums. This isn't a case of jokingly saying "I'll kill you" and not meaning it; he really wants to kill us. I have never seen a human being with such a huge ego, and I have never seen anyone filled with such hate.

(http://i53.tinypic.com/2akhirl.png)

What I have told you doesn't convey even a tenth of the evil that is Hermoor

(http://i53.tinypic.com/119t4br.png)
Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: Mako on 2011-06-28 16:09:38
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So I went ahead and got my GED.
Looks like you fit the statistic of peepz not graduating =/ Only one in my entire high school class dropped out.

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So your 10$ home argument doesnt fly,its rather completely absurd.
I know he was being sarcastic. Your home value's are a little inflated cause of lake front property.  I look at the whole of Alabama, and to be quite honest, its terrible... Minus the extra large chunks of bank owned foreclosed property. The price for land is super super cheap ($40,000-$60,000) even the "mansions" you linked where not that expensive... $2mil for lakefront 1.2 acre property is sweet! Why are they giving it away for so little? that happens to also be the most expensive one!

You know what 2 mil gets you in NY? A condo =/ on the second floor....2000-4000 square foot :P
Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: Kudistos Megistos on 2011-06-28 17:46:03
The truth is hermoor would not have been as bad as he was except for the goading and baiting which brought him back again and again.  he was a complete ass the last time he was here but I think all could have been avoided or at least a huge amount of it had we had the mods we do today.

Oh, is that the truth?

Then why has he been banned from other forums? Why is his YouTube channel filled with comments from people angry at some hateful, ignorant ting he has said? Are the people at qhimm behind that, too? Is it our fault that he does nothing but flame everywhere he goes? Did we turn him insane? Did you not consider that this might just be Hermoor's true personality?

At every point, Hermoor escalated the problem. At first, people were trying to discuss things civilly in that FFX thread, but he had to resort to nastiness. When he got a little back, he became worse still. He was always the one who went one step further, always the one who made things nastier than they were before.

The only way in which your statement could be true is if we interpret it to mean that he never would have caused a problem here because the current moderation style would have led to him getting permabanned halfway through the FFX thread.

Jari (who has also gone off the deep end)

Because it's OK to be nasty to some members, but not to others. Especially if they're girls.

Funny thing is, I have this feeling that if any of us actually saw Hermoor in person... we'd be able to kick his ass without breaking a sweat.

That should go without saying. He's obviously a timid bullying victim IRL, and I suspect his household is abusive (if not physically, then psychologically). Hermoor is probably the way he is because he was picked on and was never able to fight back.

He's likely to be in quite poor shape, too. I'm betting that he's short and has a skinnyfat build.

Looks like you fit the statistic of peepz not graduating =/ Only one in my entire high school class dropped out.
I know he was being sarcastic. Your home value's are a little inflated cause of lake front property.  I look at the whole of Alabama, and to be quite honest, its terrible... Minus the extra large chunks of bank owned foreclosed property. The price for land is super super cheap ($40,000-$60,000) even the "mansions" you linked where not that expensive... $2mil for lakefront 1.2 acre property is sweet! Why are they giving it away for so little? that happens to also be the most expensive one!

You know what 2 mil gets you in NY? A condo =/ on the second floor....2000-4000 square foot :P

In London, that much money would get you a cardboard box.

Those houses are the cheapest I've ever seen. Fuck, you can buy a mansion in Alabama for less than the price of a small house where I live. Looks like no-one wants to live there...

Have not located my test results, but have located my GED results(and before you attempt to make fun of that, let me explain)
I got my GED at 17 because I was getting into a LOT of trouble at school, and one day when in ISS(in-school suspension) I told the teacher my mother would b*tchslap her. They took this as a threat to a board employee and attempted to make me spend my last year and a half of school in alternative school.So I went ahead and got my GED)

Also found were all the documents about me skipping grades, and gifted classes, and a short story I wrote at 4 years old in preschool using 7th grade+ grammar. So I can take a quick snapshot of any of these upon request. Still searching for SAT and ACT.


I have yet to see any evidence of impressive achievements; all you've talked about is being ahead of kids your own age in a sub-par school district. Big whoop. You don't even mention ever going to college.

Nope, you still look like a big fish in a very small pond (more like a puddle) from where I'm standing.

Stop trying to show off; you're not impressing anyone.
Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: Covarr on 2011-06-28 18:16:08
Oh, is that the truth?

Then why has he been banned from other forums? Why is his YouTube channel filled with comments from people angry at some hateful, ignorant ting he has said? Are the people at qhimm behind that, too? Is it our fault that he does nothing but flame everywhere he goes? Did we turn him insane? Did you not consider that this might just be Hermoor's true personality?

At every point, Hermoor escalated the problem. At first, people were trying to discuss things civilly in that FFX thread, but he had to resort to nastiness. When he got a little back, he became worse still. He was always the one who went one step further, always the one who made things nastier than they were before.

The only way in which your statement could be true is if we interpret it to mean that he never would have caused a problem here because the current moderation style would have led to him getting permabanned halfway through the FFX thread.
DLPB isn't claiming that he wouldn't have been a problem, just not as much of one. The fact of the matter is, he was given far too much attention for his antics. With the current management, he probably would have stayed gone after his first or second banning. Jari liked to toy with him, though, and that's a large part of the reason he continued to return, and continued to escalate so many times.
Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: Kudistos Megistos on 2011-06-28 18:22:18
DLPB isn't claiming that he wouldn't have been a problem, just not as much of one. The fact of the matter is, he was given far too much attention for his antics. With the current management, he probably would have stayed gone after his first or second banning. Jari liked to toy with him, though, and that's a large part of the reason he continued to return, and continued to escalate so many times.

He'd already gone way over the edge by the first time he was banned, when Jari was not an admin and had no formal powers. He didn't get much worse after that.

But hey, if you want, continue the historical revisionism in which the targets of Hermoor's mindless hatred are actually the bad guys and Hermoor doesn't have to take responsibility for his own actions.

Listing to the way you people talk makes me think that you believe people were grabbing Hermoor's hands and forcing him to type nonsense. Everything he did was of his own will.
Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: Yarow12 on 2011-06-28 18:27:00
Because it's OK to be nasty to some members, but not to others. Especially if they're girls.
Wait, do you believe in chivalry?
Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: Jari on 2011-06-28 18:27:18
And then he -was- given another chance, d*cked it up, using Jari (who has also gone off the deep end) as a trump card, and then they both wound up getting banned.

I... errr... what now?

Oh, sorry. Been kinda busy with so called real life. :)

Methinks I should read this thread - I did read the opening post over a mobile konneksion, during the midsummer weekend here in Winland, and found it rather... hmm... optimistic, let's put it that way. I somewhat expected lulz later on, but have been too busy to read it. I pwomise to do that. :P
Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: Kudistos Megistos on 2011-06-28 18:27:18
Wait, do you believe in chivalry?

I believe in sarcasm.
Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: Mako on 2011-06-28 18:32:34
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Jari (who has also gone off the deep end)

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Because it's OK to be nasty to some members, but not to others. Especially if they're girls.
Assuming he went off the "deep end" cause of me :(. God knows what his real life problems were at the time... He could have been under allot of stress. Being an admin isn't what its cracked up to be.
Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: Covarr on 2011-06-28 18:32:48
He'd already gone way over the edge by the first time he was banned, when Jari was not an admin and had no formal powers. He didn't get much worse after that.

But hey, if you want, continue the historical revisionism in which the targets of Hermoor's mindless hatred are actually the bad guys and Hermoor doesn't have to take responsibility for his own actions.

Listing to the way you people talk makes me think that you believe people were grabbing Hermoor's hands and forcing him to type nonsense. Everything he did was of his own will.
He said time and time again that his problem was with Jari. That dumbass lulzipedia was very much a large cause of his returning. Not to mention, he DID leave us alone when Jari lost his position as admin. Mind you, I'm not defending Hermoor's actions, I completely acknowledge that he was a problem that needed dealt with, I'm simply claiming that Jari totally mishandled the situation and was a large part of the reason it lasted so long. Hermoor may have responded of his own will, but Jari very deliberately goaded him and actively encouraged him to return.

But hey, if you want, continue the historical revisionism in which Hermoor was the only person who did anything wrong and the only one who has to take responsibility for his actions.
Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: Jari on 2011-06-28 18:35:45
Oh, I definitely need to read this thread. ;D
Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: DLPB_ on 2011-06-28 18:40:25
Jari and hermoor belong with each other.  They both clearly come online to torment people or get kicks by acting like idiots.  They don't change at all.  Covarr is correct though, Jari turned Qhimm's into a complete farce.  It is no surprise that the same people continually try to further this myth that hermoor was the only problem, try to bring me into it every time, and are continually bringing hermoor up or trying to stoke up the trouble they once had free reign here with.

I mean, Jari... as an admin.  You couldn't make it up! LOL

Every single time Hermoor is mentioned, the same people crawl out of the woodwork and attempt to bring Qhimm's down to the sad level it was once at. 
Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: Jari on 2011-06-28 18:42:39
Jari and hermoor belong with each other.  They both clearly come online to torment people or get kicks by acting like idiots.  They don't change at all.  Covarr is correct though, Jari turned Qhimm's into a complete farce.

You seem to have chickened out of our duel. Remember, you were very much threatening to kill me. I offered you the chance. So, shut up, or put up, bitch. ;D
Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: Kudistos Megistos on 2011-06-28 18:50:09
He said time and time again that his problem was with Jari.

That hussy!

He told me that I was the one he hated the most!

That dumbass lulzipedia was very much a large cause of his returning. Not to mention, he DID leave us alone when Jari lost his position as admin. Mind you, I'm not defending Hermoor's actions, I completely acknowledge that he was a problem that needed dealt with, I'm simply claiming that Jari totally mishandled the situation and was a large part of the reason it lasted so long. Hermoor may have responded of his own will, but Jari very deliberately goaded him and actively encouraged him to return.

Pfft, I considered it all to be rather amusing.

And I don't recall you complaining at the time. I wonder why that could be? Could it be that you simply go along with the people who are in power in the forums? Surely not!

And another thing! You should know that the way the nastier troublemakers have been dealt with under the current administration is by giving them what they want if they cause enough trouble, rewarding Hermoorish behaviour.

Perhaps if I want the mods to do something, I shouldn't explain what I want and why I think it would be beneficial to the forums. Perhaps I should should flame everyone and post screenshots from 1 Guy 1 Jar. That seems to be the way to get things done.

But hey, if you want, continue the historical revisionism in which Hermoor was the only person who did anything wrong and the only one who has to take responsibility for his actions.

He was the one who started everything. He was the one who escalated everything. He was the one who kept coming back for more.

And where did anyone imply that anyone else was not responsible? No, no, everyone who isn't Hermoor needs to take responsibility for their own actions. We're agreed on that. The only thing on which we differ is the question of whether Hermoor should take responsibility. I wish to treat him as an independent human being dealing with other independent human beings. You seem not to think this way.

You seem to have chickened out of our duel. Remember, you were very much threatening to kill me. I offered you the chance. So, shut up, or put up, bitch. ;D

Hey, you made him do that!

I mean, Jari... as an admin.  You couldn't make it up! LOL

I don't seem to recall anyone other than you or Hermoor complaining at the time.

I don't seem to recall anyone other than you, Hermoor and some random person I'd never seen before celebrating when he left.

Every single time Hermoor is mentioned, the same people crawl out of the woodwork and attempt to bring Qhimm's down to the sad level it was once at. 

I hope you can see why it's ironic that you should make this complaint.

You too bring up past grievances whenever a certain person's name is mentioned.
Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: DLPB_ on 2011-06-28 18:52:22
You mentioned me buddy... again.  I think the ironic thing is you and your pal seem to always have a go at hermoor for being weird and yet you seem to be more obsessed with him than he is with you. 
Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: Yarow12 on 2011-06-28 18:56:12
What's a "Hermoor"? o.O
I now regret asking that. >.>
Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: Kudistos Megistos on 2011-06-28 18:57:46
I think the ironic thing is you and your pal seem to always have a go at hermoor for being weird and yet you seem to be more obsessed with him than he is with you.

But I'm in love with him! :-*

No-one else has ever made me laugh so much. ;D Except Rowan Atkinson.

I now regret asking that. >.>

It's all your fault! You broke the forums!

But I hope this gives you an idea of how much trouble he caused here. Your question is being answered very thoroughly!
Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: Mako on 2011-06-28 19:10:54
So, anyone like pork chops?
Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: Kudistos Megistos on 2011-06-28 19:11:53
So, anyone like pork chops?

Overrated. I hate having to deal with the little bits of bone. Gammon is far superior.
Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: Cupcake on 2011-06-28 19:17:20
Overrated. I hate having to deal with the little bits of bone. Gammon is far superior.

It's all about Skirt Steak
Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: jeffdamann on 2011-06-28 19:23:39
Kudistos, you misunderstand me. Alabama has low rates sometimes, yes. My point was all along that how dare you call us inbred when most likely I am smarter than most people making the arguement by a LARGE degree.

Also land is so cheap because Alabama has the lowest land taxes...and Courtney Cox bought the Scrushy Mansion I linked to.

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://static.panoramio.com/photos/original/7749698.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.panoramio.com/photo/7749698&usg=__A1CL0q8zpEqFeVJ8hzEempBgtfA=&h=955&w=1478&sz=425&hl=en&start=0&zoom=1&tbnid=AFDjkYHxvqDdkM:&tbnh=121&tbnw=189&ei=3SgKToTOAYK4tge9_dBc&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dscrushy%2Bmansion%26hl%3Den%26biw%3D747%26bih%3D365%26tbm%3Disch&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=123&vpy=68&dur=4587&hovh=180&hovw=279&tx=202&ty=158&page=1&ndsp=6&ved=1t:429,r:0,s:0

And yes Kudistos Ive been to college, dropped out to move to califonia. Was going as  a Computer Systems Analyst.

Im very poor, and also on disability for extreme Bipolar. I have problems, I have been a horrible decision maker in my life. If I would have correctly applied myself I would have tons of stuff to show you guys for the sake of argument, but not to say Im better than you.

I want you to understand that I do not see myself any better than anyone else(overall, I cant help but have a slight ego over my intelligence, which may or may not exceed anyones here, it doesnt really matter)Moreover, I see myself WORSE than most people, as mentioned I have made horrible life decisions, been in jail twice, was in so much trouble in school that I had to take my GED to avoid 1.5 years of alternative school(hell).

I hereby admit to you all that your most likely better than me. If you still dont believe me and care to see them I can produce my GED Scores and all the documents from the board of education skipping me(They almost didnt, because I was such a hellion trouble maker, but they figured increased work load would help, it didnt.)Second time Georgia skipped me, they were worried about my small size vs other students( I weighed 55lbs at 10 years old because I had been on the Max adult dosage of Riddlin since 3...prolly why Im crazy now)

Just want you guys to know I dont try to be an asshat, all you guys are my friends.
Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: Mako on 2011-06-28 19:37:34
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I am smarter than most people making the arguement by a LARGE degree.
Misspelled argument, kinda ruins the delivery a bit =/ But I'll concede that you are smarter then me.

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Im very poor, and also on disability for extreme Bipolar. I have problems
I am very sorry, if you would like you could vent to me via IRC or PM. I didn't mean to offend you.

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Just want you guys to know I dont try to be an asshat, all you guys are my friends.
Again, my poor attempt at a bad joke has seemed to offend you. I was unaware that there were people out there willing to defend Alabama. It was my understanding that the place was god awful. I stand corrected.
Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: Kudistos Megistos on 2011-06-28 19:38:28
Kudistos, you misunderstand me. Alabama has low rates sometimes, yes. My point was all along that how dare you call us inbred when most likely I am smarter than most people making the arguement by a LARGE degree.

I doubt that many people take the inbred thing seriously.

Then again, you do have some pretty small towns over there, and I doubt there's much migration. Even if you're not all marrying your sisters, some of those towns must have small gene pools.

And yes Kudistos Ive been to college, dropped out to move to califonia. Was going as  a Computer Systems Analyst.

Community college?

Im very poor, and also on disability for extreme Bipolar.

Poor thing. I'm from a poor family too. Possibly poorer than yours. (you can't be that poor if you spend so much money on your rig and on pot). I've had my share of difficulties, too. Perhaps greater than yours.

But I managed to get into Oxford. Without trying very hard, TBH. (although that mentality bit me in the arse when I was actually there)

Don't brag about how intelligent you are and then start making excuses as to why you have nothing to show for it other than being the only person in BFE to take an SAT.

I have problems, I have been a horrible decision maker in my life. If I would have correctly applied myself I would have tons of stuff to show you guys for the sake of argument

Woulda shoulda coulda.

I could have been the king, if I'd just applied myself.

I want you to understand that I do not see myself any better than anyone else(overall, I cant help but have a slight ego over my intelligence, which may or may not exceed anyones here, it doesnt really matter)

O RLY? That's exactly the impression you give. Every other post you make is showing off about something or another. You even went as far as to say that you thought no-one here had a better SAT score than you. (does that mean you think you're the smartest person here?)

Such behaviour is likely to make people want to challenge you.

Moreover, I see myself WORSE than most people, as mentioned I have made horrible life decisions, been in jail twice, was in so much trouble in school that I had to take my GED to avoid 1.5 years of alternative school(hell).

Even when you say that, you do so in a way that makes it sound like you're boasting about how badass you are.
Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: Mako on 2011-06-28 19:48:34
1382 for my SAT score... No Cambridge here =/ People on here probably have 1499+. Rather embarrassing. My father even scolded my for my poor performance... This was before the 2008 standard revision.

EDIT: 2005 Revision thanks Covarr.
Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: Opine on 2011-06-28 21:01:56
You don't even mention ever going to college.
College isn't necessarily the be-all end-all. Currently, the US has its highest rate of unemployment, at the same time it's facing a skilled labor shortage. It's only because we've been hooked on a spin that people who aren't cut-out for a four year college can only handle a "vocational consolation prize". While coming out of college as a programmer, an engineer or health care provider is wonderful, tons of students are coming out unemployed, with no direction to their life.
Being a paper-pusher at a desk job is not better or worse than manual work. To quote Mike Rowe (http://www.mikeroweworks.com/2011/05/mike-rowes-oral-testimony-to-the-senate-commerce-committee/) we have millions of "shovel ready" jobs for a society that doesn't encourage picking up a shovel.

While I must agree that going to college helped me develop personally, I don't believe that skipping college obfuscates that developmental opportunity from others. They might have to try harder, but it can still come.

It reminds me of Office Space. Sitting at a desk isn't necessarily what we all want deep down. It's just what we're told we want.

Wait, do you believe in chivalry?
I believe in equality.

he was a problem that needed dealt with,
Covarr - do you happen to be from western PA?
Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: Covarr on 2011-06-28 21:09:37
Covarr - do you happen to be from western PA?
Nope. Eastern WA, in fact. Why do ya ask? Did I accidentally make some reference I'm not getting?
Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: Kudistos Megistos on 2011-06-28 22:08:38
College isn't necessarily the be-all end-all. Currently, the US has its highest rate of unemployment, at the same time it's facing a skilled labor shortage. It's only because we've been hooked on a spin that people who aren't cut-out for a four year college can only handle a "vocational consolation prize". While coming out of college as a programmer, an engineer or health care provider is wonderful, tons of students are coming out unemployed, with no direction to their life.

I fear that you miss the point.

You see, Jeff was boasting about his tremendous academic ability. His booksmarts.

Surely a person is in no position to boast about his booksmarts if he has not even graduated from university? Nothing children study in high school (at least not in the English-speaking world) requires particularly high intelligence; the only way that one can assess whether a person truly does have scholarly talent, and isn't just good at memorisation and simple calculation, is by testing them with more advanced material.
Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: Opine on 2011-06-28 22:54:19
I fear that you miss the point.

You see, Jeff was boasting about his tremendous academic ability. His booksmarts.

Surely a person is in no position to boast about his booksmarts if he has not even graduated from university? Nothing children study in high school (at least not in the English-speaking world) requires particularly high intelligence; the only way that one can assess whether a person truly does have scholarly talent, and isn't just good at memorisation and simple calculation, is by testing them with more advanced material.
I'll concede that there's a statute of limitations on boasting. What someone achieved 5+ years ago is no longer necessarily relevant to their current situation. Akin to reliving your glory days as head cheerleader, from high school, when you're over 40.

However, I don't believe that assessing scholarly talent is only possible through higher education. Perhaps I've fallen victim to a Good Will Hunting hollywood fable. But I believe that success through self-teaching is possible. Look at Monty Oum (http://www.gametrailers.com/game/monty-oum/4712). While flaws have been pointed out in his work, he still produces impressive stuff even though he's a dropout himself.

And plenty of people who didn't make it through college are later given honorary degrees for displaying intelligence. From Bill Gates to Stephen Colbert.

Nope. Eastern WA, in fact. Why do ya ask? Did I accidentally make some reference I'm not getting?
Dropping the verb "to be" is really common where I live. So when you said "needed dealt with" rather than "needed dealing with" or "needed to be dealt with" I thought you were a neighbor  :) Apparently you're a brother of another... coast.
Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: jeffdamann on 2011-06-29 01:03:41
But I managed to get into Oxford. Without trying very hard, TBH. (although that mentality bit me in the arse when I was actually there)

For this I commend you, yes community college. Once again Im poor, and if extremely dedicated could fund myself to go to Auburn University. I may need that. I know I cant help but find some people with a higher level of education than me stupid. Like doctors.8 years of school, most of em are as dumb as dumb gets.

Mind you, not so much surgeons and specialists, as general practicioners and many ER-only Docs.

My argument cameo out wrong cause I was slightly manic at the time, and I really meant to say that "We aren't inbred, look at these well laid out facts I have for you". But instead it came out" How DARE you, Im smarter than EVERYONE, and thats just 1 person in AL"

Of course I dont have as much stored knowledge, as someone like kudistos, of course if you finished college you stayed on the road of academia after High School and your practical knowledge did not suffer.

Once again sorry for coming off the wrong way( I usually will in my manic moods, I act a bit like charlie sheen did when he was crazy)
Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: Kudistos Megistos on 2011-06-29 17:44:02

However, I don't believe that assessing scholarly talent is only possible through higher education. Perhaps I've fallen victim to a Good Will Hunting hollywood fable. But I believe that success through self-teaching is possible. Look at Monty Oum (http://www.gametrailers.com/game/monty-oum/4712). While flaws have been pointed out in his work, he still produces impressive stuff even though he's a dropout himself.

There are a small number of people who do great deeds in the world of academia despite having had little to no formal education beyond high school. We have yet to see evidence that Jeff is one of those people.

What you said reminds me of the Galileo fallacy. Yes, some people are smarter than all the academics who say that they are wrong. But for every Galileo, there are a million cranks who compare themselves to Galileo. And for every Will Hunting, there are million people (OK, maybe not a million, but still a lot) who couldn't hack it but like to compare themselves to him.

For this I commend you, yes community college. Once again Im poor, and if extremely dedicated could fund myself to go to Auburn University. I may need that.

Don't you have scholarships for poor people over there? From the claims you've made about your intellect, you should be able to get a scholarship from Harvard.


My argument cameo out wrong cause I was slightly manic at the time, and I really meant to say that "We aren't inbred, look at these well laid out facts I have for you". But instead it came out" How DARE you, Im smarter than EVERYONE, and thats just 1 person in AL"

...

Once again sorry for coming off the wrong way( I usually will in my manic moods, I act a bit like charlie sheen did when he was crazy)

The problem is that this isn't an isolated incident.

I know I cant help but find some people with a higher level of education than me stupid. Like doctors.8 years of school, most of em are as dumb as dumb gets.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect

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The Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which unskilled people make poor decisions and reach erroneous conclusions, but their incompetence denies them the metacognitive ability to appreciate their mistakes. The unskilled therefore suffer from illusory superiority, rating their ability as above average, much higher than it actually is, while the highly skilled underrate their own abilities, suffering from illusory inferiority. Actual competence may weaken self-confidence, as competent individuals may falsely assume that others have an equivalent understanding. As Kruger and Dunning conclude, "the miscalibration of the incompetent stems from an error about the self, whereas the miscalibration of the highly competent stems from an error about others".

If someone is far better educated or more intelligent than you, you may lack the ability to appreciate their wisdom; the lack of competence that separates them from you, ironically, also prevents you from realising that your assumption of superiority is wrong.
Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: Opine on 2011-06-29 19:01:10
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect
I love this study!
Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: Kudistos Megistos on 2011-06-29 19:05:45
I love this study!

But I must say a word of warning:

As is the case with many of these psychological "effects", knowing about it doesn't make you immune to it.

In fact, if you were to make this assumption, you might become even more vulnerable to it.
Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: Opine on 2011-06-29 19:46:12
But I must say a word of warning:

As is the case with many of these psychological "effects", knowing about it doesn't make you immune to it.

In fact, if you were to make this assumption, you might become even more vulnerable to it.

Well, in the article it says that when people who believed they were smarter than average were shown how they actually measured up against others, they were able to better estimate their actual rank.

So hopefully knowing about this effect, would act similarly to being shown you are not as smart as you thought. And hopefully that would make one less prone to it.

But I see your point. Walking around thinking everyone who says something I disagree with is suffering from Dunning Kreugger would automatically mean I was assuming I'm smarter than them. And then the effect would be on me. I'll, um, try to avoid that. But it still does ring true for some people I know.

Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: Kudistos Megistos on 2011-06-29 21:13:23
Well, in the article it says that when people who believed they were smarter than average were shown how they actually measured up against others, they were able to better estimate their actual rank.

So hopefully knowing about this effect, would act similarly to being shown you are not as smart as you thought. And hopefully that would make one less prone to it.

But I see your point. Walking around thinking everyone who says something I disagree with is suffering from Dunning Kreugger would automatically mean I was assuming I'm smarter than them. And then the effect would be on me. I'll, um, try to avoid that. But it still does ring true for some people I know.

Damn you! You pre-emptively wrote my response to your second paragraph with your third paragraph!

Actually, there is something else to add; it's natural for people to assume, once they've heard about things like the Dunning-Kruger effect or the hostile media effect (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hostile_media_effect), that they've stumbled across secret knowledge and they'll be able to guard against it in the future. This is not true. Even if you know about them, you'll have a very hard time recognising when you're falling victim to them. It's simply easier to spot the faults of others than faults of one's own.
Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: Yarow12 on 2011-06-29 21:57:37
As is the case with many of these psychological "effects", knowing about it doesn't make you immune to it.
Rats.
Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: jeffdamann on 2011-06-30 01:30:00
I loved the study as well, and yes we have scholarships for the poor. Its called a PELL Grant.

It will only cover 2500$ a semester.... IDK what real colleges have that low prices, because I would need at least 10k per semester to go to Auburn University or UAB(University of Alabama, Birmingham)...
Title: Re: Where Should I Start? (life advice)
Post by: Jaitsu on 2011-07-04 16:23:20
take heart my friends, for no matter what your academics are, know that you are still a hell of a stone throw ahead of me.