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Miscellaneous Forums => Graphical => Topic started by: kicker on 2011-08-26 19:58:10
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Hi all :) I decided to start modifying the Vincent battle model since no one else has made a model. It will take me sometime to modify his limits too...For now i would like to ask a couple of questions about how i should create him.. Should i base my model to the Dirge of Cerberus Vincent or keep it good and simple like in ff7 original??Furthermore, i know in a way how i will modify galiant's beast and chaos but the problem is with his other two transformations. What do i do with them ??? :S :S :S If someone else is interest in helping me make this happen to hesitate to say it :P I'm fairly new and all help will be appreciated :)
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Do as you wish, as it's you who does this. DoC can be ripped, but if you do so, you won't be able to put it here. You will have to model it from scratch.
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I'd say keep it as close to the original as possible.
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i am not going to rip the model since it's prohibited :S Could i rip it and just compare the differences though? i'll make mine from scratch in comparison with the other always
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You can. But it's buggy. It's somewhere on xentax.
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Hmm. yes i tried looking for his ripped model but couldn't really find him. Most links i found were dead some other were with a vincent model for League of Legends. I did find though a link for vincent which was in pk3 format. Is this the one from Jedi academy?? I can't open it with blender and Biturn doesn't seem to recognize it and i can't convert it. The folder has 3 files Cerberus.pk3 Vincent_animations.pk3, Vincent_Valentine.pk3. Any ideas if this is the correct?? I'll try to look again in the web to find something that might be able to convert these into 3ds.
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First, DoC can't be ripped. Guys are working on it at Xentax, but it still hasn't happened. 2nd, the .pk3 one you found is indeed the Jedi Academy model. It's pretty good, but truth be told is not all that great either. 3rd, if you search deviantart you can find a picture where someone drew Hellmasker in a more DoC themed way (I also posted that picture on here somewhere...maybe in the Vincent model thread..) And I'm sure you can find an updated ....frankenstein...picture as well.
Personally I'd say go with DoC style...I just like it more. Either way, good luck.
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.pk3 is an archive format that opens with winzip/winrar/7zip etc, the models will be in .md3 format for which you'll need some Quake 3 engine model exporters/importers
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.pk3 can also be opened with a program called Pakscape. You can easily download it
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First off, i shall expose that Vincent is by far my favourite char in all Final Fantasys, I usually don't understand why no model was made for this char (and released) so far, so this put, I'd say, go with DoC models. They are far more interesting and beautiful. I mean...
(http://www.deviantart.com/download/190557214/vincent_valentine_by_zerg134-d35gavy.jpg)
(http://www.creativeuncut.com/gallery-05/art/doc-vincent1.jpg)
Galian Beast Limit Break :o
(http://www.creativeuncut.com/gallery-05/art/doc-vincent-galian-beast.jpg)
Last Limit break :o
(http://www.creativeuncut.com/gallery-05/art/doc-vincent-chaos.jpg)
The in between limit breaks, you can just update the style keeping the original concept (dead gigas and the chainsaw thing) although i really never understood the concept behind those two..
I think theres some info about Vincent concept arts and such in another thread, can't find it tho.
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yes i read that they try to do so. that's why i couldn't find it. i have found already the artwork and i'm working based on those.Thnx for the info. I will download that program. if pk3 though could be opened with a winrar i could have done so already. It is showed as unrecognized format. Anyway. I've seen a couple of stuff avout the Quake 3 engine models exporters/importers and i'll try to get familiar with those too. You never know when they'll be needed. For deathgigas and hellmasker i'll try to base them on the frankestein monster and on the texas chainsaw massacre! i mean they are almost exactly alike!!And also i was looking into the qhimm forum about vincent model and some1 had modelled it. But there were some difficulties regarding it's size or model or something. I'll try to find again that person and contact it about onformation for the model. Vince is my fav char in all final fantasies also :P second is Noctis..
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You talk about this Vincent?
(http://i771.photobucket.com/albums/xx353/trishty/ff72010-06-2016-26-02-29.png)
I remember .pk3 can be open with 7zip. and .glm can be open with milkshape
But i really like this Vincent more http://www.polycount.com/forum/showthread.php?t=67108
(http://fc04.deviantart.com/fs50/f/2009/301/9/8/Vincent_Valentine_WIP_4_by_HyperDivine.jpg)
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looking forward for the final model available for download
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For what i can see the image links are all broken so... i found this...
1st limit
(http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/4629/vincentffviicgrender8.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/3/vincentffviicgrender8.jpg/)
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http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/694/vincentffviicgrender8.jpg/
2nd limit
(http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/8035/vincentffviicgrender9.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/192/vincentffviicgrender9.jpg/)
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http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/820/vincentffviicgrender9.jpg/
3rd limit
(http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/8395/vincentffviicgrender10.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/638/vincentffviicgrender10.jpg/)
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http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/163/vincentffviicgrender10.jpg/
4th limit
(http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/3724/vincentffviicgrender11.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/199/vincentffviicgrender11.jpg/)
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http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/17/vincentffviicgrender11.jpg/
(http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/2182/vincentffviiguns.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/191/vincentffviiguns.jpg/)
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Also there's a lot of vincent material in this website :
http://vincenibelheim.webs.com/index.htm
Hope it helps ;D
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Yup it is really helpful. I got a lot of info from that site for the weapon models of vincent. But i won't do any work on his weapons just yet. Maybe someone else would be interested to do them though.
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FeliX Leonhart already started doing them.
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Hmmmm, bad thing that the weapons look kinda old fashioned (especially with the wooden parts).
FeliX Leonhart already started doing them.
I don't have time for Vincent weapons now, but it's possible that I'll remodel them near winter (next exams :P)
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Felix i think i have seen the weapons that you made and i would like to make a suggestion to you. Why don't you try to modify some them and make them look like the weapons that vincent has on DoC????Just a suggestion only :P
(http://www.freewebs.com/shinramansion/VincentDoCWeaponsCerberus1.jpg)
(http://www.freewebs.com/shinramansion/VincentDoCWeaponsDeathPenalty1.jpg)
(http://www.freewebs.com/shinramansion/VincentDoCWeaponsWeaponParts1.jpg)
(http://www.freewebs.com/shinramansion/VincentDoCWeaponsRocketLauncher1.jpg)
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(http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs8/i/2005/339/e/a/FF7___Hellmasker_by_wynahiros.jpg)
and
(http://th04.deviantart.net/fs9/PRE/i/2006/023/6/c/FF7___Death_Gigas_by_wynahiros.jpg)
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Just a thought, if you kept it close to the original you could offer it to Team Avalanche to speed up the process :)
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yep, keeping the work close to original is good, but seriously - guns need to look modern.
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yep, keeping the work close to original is good, but seriously - guns need to look modern.
Well, I dunno. I think they suit him, since he's been stuck in a coffin for god knows how many years. I bet he still has one of these babies too: http://tinyurl.com/2czqzb6 (http://tinyurl.com/2czqzb6)
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Obs i liked those 2 pictures u sent :P When i start on his limits who knows!maybe i'll make them that way :P I want to say something else too. Just so that everybody knows, i'm knew at modelling and i'm not quite sure if i'll manage to pull this off. So bear with me and if anyone could drop me a tip or too about modeling, don't hesitate :P Furthermore someone should try importing the nokia ringtone replacing the ringing of the PHS xD
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Wanted you all to know that i've started with my project and i hope i'll make it till the end. Here's a screenshot of my work so far.
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-kAPBH32RSH0/TmDzbUZ8o9I/AAAAAAAAACQ/sM9IsnJ8Z-c/s1024/blender%2B2011-09-02%2B18-16-34-06.jpg)
It's kinda lame but with time i'll improve it. Feel free to comment it. xD
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If you wanna jump to uv/texturing, i do have a 4-5k poly vincent model floating around... never got past the model :P
(http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/6635/picture263.png)
back when i had time to do stuff...
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hmmm. Can you give it to me???? I'll try to learn how to texture and then texture it. Maybe use it to understand how modeling works too so that i can make more myself. Say if u can Timu :) :) Did u make that with blender also???
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It was made with Blender, it would be awesome for this model to be textured and released, it looks very good :-o
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I'm currently learning a bit about texturing, so if you need any help just gimme a shout and I'll give it a go.
However, If I'm terrible then you can tell me where to stick it! :)
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i'm not quite sure.. I would prefer it to be more DoC like. My major question about this is...can we create the models with their skeletons from scratch so that we can add whatever we like to the model or not?? I mean add more hair and change the waist, the left hand, the legs, the boots etc etc. As far as i remember if it isn't according to the original skeleton it can't be done. But what if we create our own skeleton??
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its technically possible.... you dont want to do it though. As to my model... this one was actually made in maya. It'll be a few days (a week or so) before i get access to it, its stashed on my workstation, which is in storage during renovations.
I'd try n stick with the original style for texturing my mesh, as thats what it was modeled on, and to mix the DoC texturing with the ff7 style would... look odd :P. That and I really don't like dirge of cerberus - The whole "lets add spikes to everyone for teh lulz" didnt work for me.
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heheh...no i didn't like that either on DoC. I mean if i could change the cloak a little bit. Make it rotten style :evil:muahahahhahah :evil: . maye add the weapon holder on his leg. His hair just a tiny little bit. Add something to his waist so it doesn't look so odd.. or maybe low it down a little. Vince nt's pants remind me of those that my grandpa used to wear...from belly to toes :P . His golden gloves and boots and that's all. Are they a lot?? Regardless. When you gain access to it Timy send it to me. It will help me out a lot. Blender can read it too right??If i'll texture it i think i'll texture it there. Maybe use some photoshop too.
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Yeah Vincent!!!:D Somebody has a link?:O
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It's not even finished yet...
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lol it would just be a white silhouette ingame.
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grrrr :(
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wanted to post an update. It's small but oh well.. :P took me about 2 hours to fix wrongs things about this and move it a little forward.
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-64qpeUoxs98/TmT3WKh3oQI/AAAAAAAAACY/laNIoo0Bvsg/s1024/blender%2B2011-09-05%2B19-21-50-41.jpg)
Feel free to comment it and tell me if something looks wrong. In the next update i'll probably have the whole head ;)
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I am hurry he finished it :D
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Can somebody help me find the the secret model of vincent from the Dirge of Cerberus unlockables on the web??? i currently have no time to play the game and unlock it. I just need a couple of pictures from the web to help me go on. Any help with that from someone ??Also can someone tell me how can i see vincent's skeleton so that i know what i can add and what not???? please??
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If you wanna jump to uv/texturing, i do have a 4-5k poly vincent model floating around... never got past the model :P
(http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/6635/picture263.png)
back when i had time to do stuff...
Is there any way for this model to be obtained? I realize that it has no texture, so in game it would be white vertex colored, but it is an awesome model none-the-less
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wow thats a good looking vincent model :)
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i want vincent!!!!! :P
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hurry hurry!!! :P hihi
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Stop spamming please.
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Hey guys. Since i didn't want my project to die i will be starting working on my new model again. I've settle into uni and i have free time to start working on this as it is part of my course now either way. Hope you will all help me by commenting and giving feedback on whatever i am creating. Tommorow i'll be posting first piece of the model probably :)
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yeah:D
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Do as you wish, as it's you who does this. DoC can be ripped, but if you do so, you won't be able to put it here. You will have to model it from scratch.
I really want to help ya but i can't. I'm not a programmer, so hope you can finish this ASAP with other help ;D
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You talk about this Vincent?
(http://i771.photobucket.com/albums/xx353/trishty/ff72010-06-2016-26-02-29.png)
I remember .pk3 can be open with 7zip. and .glm can be open with milkshape
But i really like this Vincent more http://www.polycount.com/forum/showthread.php?t=67108
(http://fc04.deviantart.com/fs50/f/2009/301/9/8/Vincent_Valentine_WIP_4_by_HyperDivine.jpg)
If I may ask, what vincent is this? It looks nice.. Is it a custom mod?
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The first of those two pics is a custom model from Jedi Academy but converted to FF7, not sure if it's publicly available or not.
The second pic shows someones work in progress model that as far as I know was never finished as the thread for it died in 2009.
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is solong hd vincent model :(
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I've been super busy with my exams for Uni this year. During summer i'm going to start re-doing this project. I have gained some new skills through this year for animation so i'm going to create something much better than my first attempts to it. So be patient. No need to keep re-posting.
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ff7maniac vs Hd Vincent model (http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=13041.0) :D let's not spam this thread :)
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Haha. I'm glad someone doesn't find him annoying. I sure as hell do. Talk about impatient... On a side note, glad to hear that you will be coming back to this project kicker!
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With all the activity in the thread, am I to take it that this project is not complete and i only ASSUMED it to be complete and the mod i downloaded is not complete? lol. does that even make sense?
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Well, I dunno. I think they suit him, since he's been stuck in a coffin for god knows how many years. I bet he still has one of these babies too: http://tinyurl.com/2czqzb6 (http://tinyurl.com/2czqzb6)
Hehehe. Goodness me-- I remember having an old Nokia.
Vincent may have been in a coffin for nigh on half a decade, but in the FF7 universe it's quite clear his weapons, evident from his flashback in dirge, are fairly modern. Vincent was also a member of the Turks, giving him access to next generation technology as part of that task force. So if you think about it... last generation's next generation is this generation's modern standard. (In theory. Often the weapons he would probably be given would be prototypes of the models available today.)
However I digress, for it's pointless to make the above point when he is acquiring modern weapons from shops across the land. Go with the modern weapons is my vote.
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Long time no see after my last update on this project. I have scrapped the first model I had started working on. Thought I should show some updates on what I've been working on. Hope you guys like it.
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-a_DqY0-G3p0/T8wjN8DhBxI/AAAAAAAAAFM/e4vIOfWoYLs/s912/blender%25202012-06-04%252003-52-49-92.jpg)
Comments on how it looks like would be more than welcome. Always bare in mind that I am nowhere near where every other modeler here is. :P
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So far it's looking good ;)
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Nice work. Hell of a lot better than me. Keep it up.
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Keep going! I'm looking forward to seeing all details on Vincent's (http://www.roboimages.com/image/ri44771/wallpaper_final_fantasy_vii_Vincent.jpg) outfit.
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Nice ass!
lol. kidding. i can say the figure looks nice but we'll only know for sure once more features become viewable
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Looks good, keep up the work!
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small update on the model. Should have moved on more but thought it would be better if I fixed it a bit before going on.
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-vvW_GJVVqrA/T85XTyFLNOI/AAAAAAAAAFc/2pzteeU78Ro/s912/blender%25202012-06-05%252019-59-31-51.jpg)
If something looks off to you tell me so that I'll keep it in my mind. :)
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Might be me but i think the figure looks too thin....