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"The Square Enix developers talk about 'Final Fantasy 7' remake, 'Kingdom Hearts III', and 'Versus XIII'
Where is Kingdom Hearts III? Where the heck is Versus XIII? And why haven’t we seen a Final Fantasy VII remake? Those were the three questions that I asked nearly every Square Enix representative!"
'2D-X' claims they bugged a number of Square Enix developers at the recent CES 2012 show, regarding a number of outstanding issues on 'Why no FF7' remake, and other burning questions from loyal 'Square Enix' fans out there, of course due to the nature of the questions, the developers wanted to remain anonymous, but here is what they said:
About Kingdom Hearts III
“Kingdom Hearts III will happen. It may be several years from now, but it’s going to happen. Once we finish Versus XIII and rest from that, we will start on Kingdom Hearts III.”
About Final Fantasy VII remake
“I’m on the fence about it. I’d love to see it, but at the same time I wouldn’t. It wouldn’t be the same, and wouldn’t have the same magic. It’d have voices, and what about the cross dressing part? And what about Aerith’s death? Would we see that in full next-gen graphics? I don’t think I could handle that. I honestly don’t believe that people truly understand Final Fantasy VII. I think if they went back and played it today, they wouldn’t appreciate it nearly as much as they did before,” said another dev. “That might not be the case for all Final Fantasy VII fans, but I think a lot of people need to let it go and accept it for what it is.”
About Versus XIII
"It's definitely coming, not to worry," said a member of the testing team, "I get e-mails about it every now and then that definitely tells me it's coming to America. It might be a few years, but it'll be worth the wait."
So there you have it, the 'low-down' on Square Enix possible plans, and it seems you going to have to totally forgot about FF7!
Source copied from: www.maxconsole.com/cgi-bin/maxconsole/rknewz.pl?function=detail&id=RKLS000000819&cat=GENERAL (http://www.maxconsole.com/cgi-bin/maxconsole/rknewz.pl?function=detail&id=RKLS000000819&cat=GENERAL)
Main source: www.2d-x.com/square-enix-talks-final-fantasy-7-remake-kingdom-hearts-iii-and-versus-xiii/ (http://www.2d-x.com/square-enix-talks-final-fantasy-7-remake-kingdom-hearts-iii-and-versus-xiii/)
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That max console article looks like it was written by a 6 year old. It's also just a complete copy of the other article. Ridiculous.
Anyway, if any of this is true I'm glad about the FFVII part, because it means they don't want to fuck with it, which is a good thing. Regarding KH3, who really cares? The story has been stretched uber thin at this point... and it didn't even make a whole lot of sense to begin with.
I can't wait for Versus XIII, but I'm not waiting more years for it. It was originally announced for RELEASE in 2008. 2008!!!!
It was announced alongside XIII in 2006, and XIII was supposed to be released in 2007. It's just totally ridiculous. They should never have announced it. "A few years" from now says around 2014, and for a game that's been in development since almost the beginning of this console generation, that's absolutely fucking crazy nuts. Even for them. All I can say is, the game must be absolutely huge. Super-mega-humungous, if it's taking them this long.
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Anyway, if any of this is true I'm glad about the FFVII part, because it means they don't want to f*ck with it, which is a good thing. Regarding KH3, who really cares? The story has been stretched uber thin at this point... and it didn't even make a whole lot of sense to begin with.
Totally agree with you
I can't wait for Versus XIII, but I'm not waiting more years for it. It was originally announced for RELEASE in 2008. 2008!!!!
It was announced alongside XIII in 2006, and XIII was supposed to be released in 2007. It's just totally ridiculous. They should never have announced it. "A few years" from now says around 2014, and for a game that's been in development since almost the beginning of this console generation, that's absolutely f*cking crazy nuts. Even for them. All I can say is, the game must be absolutely huge. Super-mega-humungous, if it's taking them this long.
Since they're taking wayy longer im guessing they are improving it much more (especially with graphics enhancements) and yeah im beaming with excitement for this game too :D
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But really, if it's truly to be released in 2013/2014, that's 7/8 years of development. It's just CRAZY!!!!
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you know what? It's starting to put me in mind of Duke Nukem Forever. and that can't be good...
plus, by
Super-mega-humungous
I completely agree, but for meaningful content. and not the kinda meaningful content that XIII had before everyone became L'Cie....
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Why on earth are they taking so long with a FFVII remake? I mean honestly they must get asked about it all the time from people all over the world. I don't understand why people get their hackles up about it, not sure if its a good idea or not but think of it this way, we sit and watch remakes of movies over and over again YES i agree some of which are a poor representation of the original but who cares?.
I for one would love to see FFVII with stunning graphics on a next-gen, all they would need to do is change the look keep the story, battle system, items, weapons and maps. Yes people who don't know the game wont understand the truth around it and may not have the love for it the same as people who played it the first time round... and yes they hard core will complain about how it didn't live up to the original but you know what... who cares? SE have a gold mine right there because if they remake it everyone will get it like it or not people will pay for it, the new people to it because everyone talks about it and the old because even if they hate it they will have to see what its like.
I won't lie I might hate a remake but I would still pay good money to play it..... and play it I would and I can put money on it that all of you guys like the idea or not would pay too. :-P
**Deep breath**
/Rant off
Nis
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They are taking time with it because FF7 remake would take far more effort than they can be bothered with (remaking VII in full HD graphics is much harder than the recent dire entries from scratch) and I know I am repeating myself yet again, but I am glad they aren't remaking.
They care about money vs time vs effort. If VII could be made easily and with minimal cost they'd do it, but they get far more money churning out relative crap.
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I really would like to see a remake. The worst that could happen is maybe that they add, but I doubt they'll subtract too much unless it's inconsequential
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I would love to see a remake.
But I have a shitty feeling that they would ruin it with all their stupid retcons.
Seriously, they have already tarnished what was a brilliant storyline. It's just a shame really.
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If you ignore the sequels, prequels then the original art is never lost. If people start talking about the storyline in terms of what happened in those jokes, just tell them you don't see them as the story. Simple.
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them saying aeris's death would be bad on ff7 remake baffles me. if that were done in modern day graphics, i would shed manly tears.
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Aerith's death scene was the first time a game made me shed tears. And I was also sad cause I didn't get her final limit :-( As i've said before, I am perfectly ok with a VII remake from here ;D
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I wouldn't mind a ff7 remake either but i don't think that's ever going to happen but they're might be a chance when the next-gen consoles come out (ps4 etc)
What i really wanted was get the ff7 pc version fully modded up and somehow port/burn it to blu-ray so we can play what we play on the pc but on the ps3 ;D and that's me settled
But i don't think that would be even likely..
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Just hook your PC/laptop up to your HD tv via HDMI. That's what I do.
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Good idea but i don't have a laptop and my pc is 2 rooms away from the cable compatiable tv
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That's a bummer man. That's why I love Laptops :)
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Lack Of Emotional Games
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwPgYqD9cLs&feature=g-all-u&context=G2984e4aFAAAAAAAAAAA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwPgYqD9cLs&feature=g-all-u&context=G2984e4aFAAAAAAAAAAA)
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i would love to see a official remake of ff7 but its not going to happen if it does not anytime soon as the company is suffering with money troubles thats why there rushing all there games out for release its reported that for a full release it would take 7 years to redo and alot more manpower then is available to them this is also the reason versus 13 has been delayed so the team working on it could help finish 13 and also 13-2 as you may know ff14 was a flop buggy as hell and very unpopular they had to move the team around so it could be reworked its only sold 550.000 copys worldwide they just dont seem to care anymore for the game that originally saved them thats why it was called final fantasy
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That was a painful read on a Sunday morning.
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...as you may know ff14 was a flop buggy as hell and very unpopular they had to move the team around so it could be reworked its only sold 550.000 copys worldwide...
Though I found it in stock 15 euros I bought FFXIV, I think paying for servers to play is a financial disaster for me right now...
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I am glad they aren't touching it. I would rather wait for projects like the bombing mission even if they take years, because at least they won't fuck up the game.
What I WOULD like to see however, is a sequel that does something new, plays like a main FF entry instead of a spinoff, but has a ton of new things that make it good and interesting to play. That will definitely never happen though, as it arguably would require more resources to make it nearly half as good as a 7 remake if they didn't fuck one up.
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I am glad they aren't touching it. I would rather wait for projects like the bombing mission even if they take years, because at least they won't f*ck up the game.
What I WOULD like to see however, is a sequel that does something new, plays like a main FF entry instead of a spinoff, but has a ton of new things that make it good and interesting to play. That will definitely never happen though, as it arguably would require more resources to make it nearly half as good as a 7 remake if they didn't f*ck one up.
Thumbs up ! I'd love to watch an ff8 sequel too with a story similar to the youtube's sequel!
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Thumbs up ! I'd love to watch an ff8 sequel too with a story similar to the youtube's sequel!
i would actually love to see a sequel to ff8
That was a painful read on a Sunday morning.
my apologies it is alot to bear but its the truth
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quotes like this make me wonder.
how many people do they actually have working on these projects? it has to be small by the amount of time it takes them to produce content.
the final fantasy 7 remake thing pisses me off to no end though. they know the potential for how many copies it would sell, and they're gonna hold that card up their sleeve until they HAVE to make it to save the company. while i do understand their viewpoint, why blow your load early, it just makes me wish they got bought out and have some other people in charge.
worse case, it gives me a game to look forward to when I retire lol(in like 20-30 years :p)
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Has anyone seen this video !?! Found it by accident on youtube. If there's gonna be a remake of FF7 by Square Enix or whoever, they better take a hint or two from this! It's awesome!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpgQ_Zzj7AQ&feature=g-vrec
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i remember this a long time ago. Very nice Vincent model but I don't think ff7 engine could bare so many polygones. If I'm mistaken please correct me. The game needs a remake in ffxiii-2 engine.
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Graphics engine, maybe. But not battle system, stick to the classic there.
Now, i think i read somewhere that the FF7 engine supports like 65000+ tries per part, with something like 12 parts per model. Sooo.. the vincent model could be handled easily. (i'm sure bother my above numbers are wrong, I just know it was fairly high
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I suppose it will sound dump but was anyone able to figure out how to program with ffxiii-2's engine? If only the modders were able to work with those type of graphics...
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They periodically talk about the FF7 remake once every few years, telling pretty much the same stuff all the times, about how it'd be impossible to replicate, or hard, or time/money consuming. So where's the news exactly? It's a simple strategy to make people talk about them; just ignore the f*ckers, they don't deserve any attention for spreading nonsense about vaporware. Maybe they will stop someday (one can only dream).
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At the very least, Square should make the PC version of FF7 more readily available.
It kinda makes me feel guilty about hoarding copies . . .
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True enough. Then again, even though i like the idea of the FF7 remake, i don like it enough to actually want one....i'm with the developers on this one. It's too good a classic to be appreciated in anything other than it's original form. a few mods for textures and chars are ok but the scene, the feeling, the music....<loooong sigh of endearment>
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Something similar to the Monkey Islands remakes could be interesting.
They are the same games with tweaked out graphics and sound.
But you can switch back and forth between the new and old styles with the press of a button.
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...the PC version of FF7...
Square has abandoned pc a long time ago except for online games mostly caz of piracy...
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Ya...but i wonder if they could make more cross-over series using ff7 and the other good ones like VIII X and X-2.....
dissidia and kigdom hearts are there, but i was thinking something a little different....i dunno if you've seen or played this, but theres a series of games called Another Century's Episode. Although entirely different genre, the point is they made games where the plotlines of popular mecha series overlapped and merged with another original plot-line. Was wondering, if they could do one with FF7, 8,10 ,DMC and a few other games we can think off......
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Square has abandoned pc a long time ago except for online games mostly caz of piracy...
I highly doubt that, especially considering PC gaming has proven to be very profitable in recent years. I'm sure Deus Ex wouldn't be on the PC if that were true.
It's more likely that 80% of the PC market doesn't give 2 shits about anything that combines the letter J with the letters RPG
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I highly doubt that, especially considering PC gaming has proven to be very profitable in recent years. I'm sure Deus Ex wouldn't be on the PC if that were true.
It's more likely that 80% of the PC market doesn't give 2 sh*ts about anything that combines the letter J with the letters RPG
I just saw that fact about piracy on a Square interview video about final fantasy production for future ff games a long time ago...only for final fantasy games... it's obvious they trust the consoles more especially ps3.
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Naturaly. Security on PS3 console is a killer! the one good thing about console systems is that you don have to worry about system requirements unlike pc....
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Oh Square (God) please show some mercy on ffs Theatrhythm Final Fantasy - Nintendo Direct Gameplay Footage (Japanese) (http://uk.ign.com/videos/2012/04/23/theatrhythm-final-fantasy-nintendo-direct-gameplay-footage)
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Uhmmm.........it was too...."cute"...mum's the word at this point :-X
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http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Final-Fantasy-Versus-XIII-Director-Leaves-Square-Enix-41680.html (http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Final-Fantasy-Versus-XIII-Director-Leaves-Square-Enix-41680.html) Take a look at this guys. And i thank everyone is aware now that Final Fantasy versus XIII has once more been postponed. Any more infomration on it will be given maybe in September. and that's a big MAYBE! :S
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Well ya, pretty much new that.....but i really wonder if it's really worth the wait....they've got a lot to do to impress than just graphics....
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http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Final-Fantasy-Versus-XIII-Director-Leaves-Square-Enix-41680.html (http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Final-Fantasy-Versus-XIII-Director-Leaves-Square-Enix-41680.html) Take a look at this guys. And i thank everyone is aware now that Final Fantasy versus XIII has once more been postponed. Any more infomration on it will be given maybe in September. and that's a big MAYBE! :S
GOD DAMNIT
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Is there anyone left to work for Square anymore lol... reminds me of Sierra's fate a bit... Thumbs up for anyone who have noticed the Tom Clancy's trailer below XD (Ubisoft)
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They still are around for sure. Just not as in your face as say EA or Crytek....
But them sharing the fate of sierra is distrubing and i wouldn't want that. They've made great quality stuff, Square i mean.
You know i just don understnd why my diamond model video wont be allowed on youtube there's already a bunch of those and none of my other videos received any notices. You know what i'm saying....
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Square: Final Fantasy VII Remake Not a Priority
Focus is on new titles rather than remakes. (http://uk.ign.com/articles/2012/05/16/square-final-fantasy-vii-remake-not-a-priority?utm_source=Thursday%20newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=5.18%20Dynamic%20Newsletter_NO%20FNAME_4261_191931_191985&utm_content=15666439)
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Qhimm and the rest of us can contribute and make our own remakes....that way we can retain the old "classic" feel of ff7 while still enjoying the better hi-rez graphics....i think it should remain as just that. Gaming co.s nowadays seem to be losing their creativity: either make reboots of old classics and ruin them like with the new DMC, or they make somethin' that looks beautiful and is really taxing on the average system specs and in the end nothing much can be said about it whether it be the gameplay or the so-called plot.
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The time for a FFVII Remake has come and gone. I used to look forward to one, but now I fear the thought.
If they do "remake" FFVII I truly hope that they don't call it FFVII. It might have the same story, but I doubt they would even leave the original materia system intact at this point. Hell, the story probably wouldn't even be the same. They'd try to make Sephiroth sane, make Zack alive, include cameos from post-original VII spinoffs, and Limit Breaks would be bizarre laser shows where you try to press X as fast as you can to do 600% more damage. Super Fantasy 7: XXX-4 The Reckoning.
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...press X as fast as you can to do 600% more damage...
lol worst than VIII I guess ;)
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I don't understand the people who say they don't want ff7 because they are afraid square enix will ruin it, the people who don't want ffvs13 because it is taking too long, or the people that don't want kh3 because the story is convoluted. If an ff7 remake was made and it sucked, you always have the original, and at least people would stop asking or it. If any of those three games were made and did suck, how does it hurt anyone who didn't want them in the first place?
Imo, they will probably release a remake of ff7 on a portable console around ff7's 20th anniversary, ffvs13 will come out late 2013 or early 2014, and kh3 will be after that.
Most people want a remake because of the horrible field models, low resolution, and poor localization. Omzy's field pack, umi, mop, covarr's music installer, and retranslation project effectively give us the most complete remake we can hope for. (Until team avalanche, the 60 fps, and rebirth mods are completed)
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@StickySock
it's just an opinion, man. That's all....i mean WE ourselves dont know what it will be like. We are a little afraid of what i MIGHT be like after having become so used to this retro style we have right now....But if you think we WONT buy it if a remake comes out, that's where your wrong. Call it fandom, curiosity or just going with the crowd whatever. It's the stuff we simply discuss about.
It's a different thing though if they decide to make a "reboot" instead of a remake....i'll be more reluctant to buy it cuz of some terrible reboots i've encountered lately. The Devil May Cry reboot is horrible in my opinion...
Point is we just discuss stuff. Everybody will be enthu of FF7 "remake" one way or the other...they'd show it in different ways...hate it without reason, get excited over the new models...may be better battle system...it's all enthusiasm in different forms.
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Here is my feeling on the reason the Final Fantasy VII remake unfortunately has a very high chance of not happening. Final Fantasy 7 is their baby, it's their Magnum Opis. Final Fantasy 1 gave gamers something new to play that was different from all the other Nintendo games out their, but Final Fantasy 7 was just beautiful and so graphically intense for it's time. It's like when a parent has more than 1 child, and has a favorite but doesn't want it to show, but everyone knows anyway.
They are afraid that if they make a remake of it, they will ruin the game. It won't have the same feel as the original did, and won't cause the same reactions that the old one did. It might even cause some people to react badly and it could be the game they wish they never made.
The reason I think this way, is that they have remade Final Fantasy 1 - 6, some multiple times with just updated graphics and adding more dungeons and items, and a few here or there that have added voices in them. They are also doing an HD remake for Final Fantasy 10 for the ps3 and Vita (which I am hoping will add online multiplayer Blitzball), but they haven't touched, or have made any announcement of a 7 remake.
They know that if they remake 7, they will change more than just the graphics and doing that may ruin the game for all it's fans. Now, if a remake is made will I buy it? You damn right I will, and until that day comes I will still have hopes of a remake, but don't get too strung up on the idea. The longer they go without doing a remake, will be longer you crave for it. So until the possibility of that day comes to view on the horizon, just stick with Qhimm and all the amazing mods they have come up with, cause for now, this is the best possible remake out their.
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Here is my feeling on the reason the Final Fantasy VII remake unfortunately has a very high chance of not happening. Final Fantasy 7 is their baby, it's their Magnum Opis. Final Fantasy 1 gave gamers something new to play that was different from all the other Nintendo games out their, but Final Fantasy 7 was just beautiful and so graphically intense for it's time. It's like when a parent has more than 1 child, and has a favorite but doesn't want it to show, but everyone knows anyway.
They are afraid that if they make a remake of it, they will ruin the game. It won't have the same feel as the original did, and won't cause the same reactions that the old one did. It might even cause some people to react badly and it could be the game they wish they never made.
The reason I think this way, is that they have remade Final Fantasy 1 - 6, some multiple times with just updated graphics and adding more dungeons and items, and a few here or there that have added voices in them. They are also doing an HD remake for Final Fantasy 10 for the ps3 and Vita (which I am hoping will add online multiplayer Blitzball), but they haven't touched, or have made any announcement of a 7 remake.
They know that if they remake 7, they will change more than just the graphics and doing that may ruin the game for all it's fans. Now, if a remake is made will I buy it? You damn right I will, and until that day comes I will still have hopes of a remake, but don't get too strung up on the idea. The longer they go without doing a remake, will be longer you crave for it. So until the possibility of that day comes to view on the horizon, just stick with Qhimm and all the amazing mods they have come up with, cause for now, this is the best possible remake out their.
Few points i may have a slightly different idea....but still +1 to strife98!!!! :)
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They are doing FFX because it's not a remake at all, it's just another one of those PS2->PS3/Vita remasters that's so popular right now... and with the tools that Sony has given developers, it's pretty damn easy; in terms of new assets, it'll probably be re-drawn HUD elements and some other 2D artwork, but that's about it.
Remaking or even remastering a PSX game would take far more work, since they'd have to do pretty much everything from scratch. Not to mention, PS1 graphics don't hold up nearly as well in HD as PS2 graphics do.
edit: I'm actually not sure Sony has made these tools. It might've been Bluepoint Games, since PS2 remasters are pretty near all they've done.
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2:33 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=oou3IudIoC0#t=153s)
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Disturbing :-o