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Title: After 30 minutes Freeze/ Gc drivers
Post by: BAN___KAI on 2012-05-24 15:14:28
Hello guys i have been counting the time until i get the super low game freezes and its precisly 30minutes ,, bellow that its still playable but after those 30 minutes its just imposible ,, like it takes 10minutes to pick the rewards after the fights ,, normally it takes 2 seconds..

So anyway i looked at this thread where the solution was to only install a Gc driver but the issue is that my graphic card is realyl really old and when i 1st installed it,, it took me a few hours just to find the version that can actually Run a 3D game , I downloaded like 10 version and i allways got some kind of not a 3d error message so i dont want it to happen again ...http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=8126.0

My graphic card is Ati radeon X300-X550/X1050 ,, allways hated these Ati Cards cause they are so complicated to find

So can someone help me ?
Title: Re: After 30 minutes Freeze/ Gc drivers
Post by: Kompass63 on 2012-05-24 18:41:46
Hi BAN___KAI

Search on this (http://support.amd.com/us/Pages/AMDSupportHub.aspx) page for a driver. I think Catalyst 10.2 is right for you, otherwise try Catalyst 9.3
Title: Re: After 30 minutes Freeze/ Gc drivers
Post by: BAN___KAI on 2012-05-24 21:20:51
Hi BAN___KAI

Search on this (http://support.amd.com/us/Pages/AMDSupportHub.aspx) page for a driver. I think Catalyst 10.2 is right for you, otherwise try Catalyst 9.3

Hi and thanks ,, i did download the automatic driver install but same thing happens :(
Title: Re: After 30 minutes Freeze/ Gc drivers
Post by: Kompass63 on 2012-05-24 21:33:06
Are the "automatic driver install" have installed the "WDM Integrated Driver"?
Title: Re: After 30 minutes Freeze/ Gc drivers
Post by: BAN___KAI on 2012-05-24 21:48:29
Are the "automatic driver install" have installed the "WDM Integrated Driver"?


Hmm i dont know i chose the Desktop Graphics then Auto Detect graphic card , then it just found it and installed the drivers..

Another weird thing is that when i run the game in windowed mode it completly changed my Desktop resolution to 600x and Color to 6 bits ,, happens all the time
Title: Re: After 30 minutes Freeze/ Gc drivers
Post by: Kompass63 on 2012-05-24 22:33:18
If you are using Windows XP you can install this WDM drivers (http://www2.ati.com/drivers/10-2_legacy_xp32-64_wdm.exe) manually.
I do not know if this is important for FF7, but maybe it helps.
Title: Re: After 30 minutes Freeze/ Gc drivers
Post by: BAN___KAI on 2012-05-25 10:21:39
just tried it and i still get freezes after 30minutes :(

If only i could save whenever i want
Title: Re: After 30 minutes Freeze/ Gc drivers
Post by: Covarr on 2012-05-25 17:32:52
Have you tried monitoring your card's temperature? This could be a safety mechanism, where it severely limits itself if it detects to be overheating.

If it is the temperature, the best thing you can do is take some canned air to the inside of your PC (especially any fans), and make sure it's got plenty of airflow.
Title: Re: After 30 minutes Freeze/ Gc drivers
Post by: BAN___KAI on 2012-05-25 18:11:10
well i am using that graphic card for like 6months now and i can run Wow on low fps but it doesnt freeze like in FF7

and i cant really open the pc case
Title: Re: After 30 minutes Freeze/ Gc drivers
Post by: Kompass63 on 2012-05-25 19:28:32
Hi BAN___KAI

For examining the temperature of your graphic card you can download GPU-Z from here (http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/2137/TechPowerUp_GPU-Z_v0.6.2.html)
Title: Re: After 30 minutes Freeze/ Gc drivers
Post by: BAN___KAI on 2012-05-25 21:01:53
hmm i tried that program but it completly froze my pc,, ran it again and nothing happened
Title: Re: After 30 minutes Freeze/ Gc drivers
Post by: Kompass63 on 2012-05-26 01:22:10
Hi BAN___KAI

This is bad. I think something is wrong with your PC.
Please make sure that all device drivers are available, much like me.
(http://i47.tinypic.com/2nqebg8.gif)


You are using Windows XP?
Do you have Windows XP Service Pack 3 installed? (http://i45.tinypic.com/2n8o1uc.gif)


Did you ". NET Framework 2.0" installed? (maybe needed for Catalyst Control Center)
Do you have any further updates from Microsoft installed?
Do you have DirectX 9.0c installed?

A lot of questions, hopefully one of them helps to find the error.
Many greetings Kompass63
Title: Re: After 30 minutes Freeze/ Gc drivers
Post by: BAN___KAI on 2012-05-26 15:10:59
Thanks man for that long post xD ,, well i checked and i got everything you asked ,, i even ran a full virus scan and defragmented, etc ..

Allways after 30minutes the game gets like 2fps ,, after i finish that battle it continues normally ,, really weird
Title: Re: After 30 minutes Freeze/ Gc drivers
Post by: Kompass63 on 2012-05-27 01:53:46
Hi BAN___KAI

The post is so long because I included a few pictures  :-D
I slowly running out of ideas...

Open the Catalyst Control Center and look for an entry "Overdrive" or similar.
(http://i50.tinypic.com/25tiwp0.gif)

Please do not change anything! Only the temperature is interesting.
Leave the window open and start FF7. You can switch between by pressing ALT + TAB
If the graphics card has a fan you should be able to hear that it is faster
If the game is slow, check the temperature.
They should not be above 75 °Celsius

Title: Re: After 30 minutes Freeze/ Gc drivers
Post by: BAN___KAI on 2012-05-27 17:41:32
Sorry but i dont have those options , the graphic card is really really old ...:(

Also dont you think it might be the game error ,, not just graphic card
Title: Re: After 30 minutes Freeze/ Gc drivers
Post by: Kompass63 on 2012-05-27 19:46:36
Hi BAN___KAI


Quote
My graphic card is Ati radeon X300-X550/X1050 ,, allways hated these Ati Cards cause they are so complicated to find
The ATI Radeon X-series were produced between 2004 and 2005.
Quote
Sorry but i dont have those options , the graphic card is really really old ...
I think you do not have ATI Radeon X-series, more of a Rage 128, Rage 128 Pro or Xpert 99 (or similarly, from 1999).
It is extremely important to find out which card is right!
Since GPU-Z would not work everest home (http://www.chip.de/downloads/Everest-Home-Edition_13012871.html) my next recommendation (sorry for the German side).
If you have identified the graphics card carefully, you can download from AMD the right driver.
Do not use the automatic installation that has not ever worked.
Uninstall the current graphics card driver first and then install the correct one.
If you are unsure of which graphics card in your PC, you make a screenshot of Everest Home, while the details of the graphics card shows up, and put the picture here.

Greetings Kompass63

Edit:
You can also read that (http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pages/HowtoidentifythemodelofanATIgraphicscard.aspx#header4). But if your card has been built before 2004, your PC does not recognize them properly.
Title: Re: After 30 minutes Freeze/ Gc drivers
Post by: BAN___KAI on 2012-05-27 20:39:43
Hi there again , ,thanks again for continuing your help xD ,,

Well i made a screen shot of the GPU section of that program: in there its called Ati radeon X300 but in other sections like windows video and pc-i sections its different

GPU section:http://oi46.tinypic.com/suvn6w.jpg
PCI-AGP video section:look at the Eax name ,, http://oi50.tinypic.com/n685xc.jpg
Windows Video:http://oi50.tinypic.com/fau3rc.jpg



So its either x300, or x300+other series or EAX300 ,, damn ati cards


Btw just experianced my 1st slow down while running in the ff7 world ,, never happened before ,, only in battles ,, had like 1Fps ,, it was the ICE Map with tons of wind ,, Cpu was at like 80%
Title: Re: After 30 minutes Freeze/ Gc drivers
Post by: Kompass63 on 2012-05-27 21:13:36
It seems in fact to be an ATI Radeon X300 and therefore is the proper driver Catalyst 10.2
The card is not so old and should work well with FF7 and the MOD's.

I've run out of ideas ...
Title: Re: After 30 minutes Freeze/ Gc drivers
Post by: BAN___KAI on 2012-05-27 21:54:49
Well i am currently download it ,, there is 2 drivers ,, download the bigger one Software Suit version http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Legacy/Pages/radeonaiw_xp.aspx


Also i have noticed that everytime i run the game bootleg shows this error Invalid Switch Affinity in that dos window ,, dont know if thats important
Title: Re: After 30 minutes Freeze/ Gc drivers
Post by: Kompass63 on 2012-05-27 22:22:05
Also i have noticed that everytime i run the game bootleg shows this error Invalid Switch Affinity in that dos window ,, dont know if thats important

I think that means that you wanted to istall two mutually incompatible mods. But you should read this (http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=12008.msg166320#msg166320) thread once.
Title: Re: After 30 minutes Freeze/ Gc drivers
Post by: BAN___KAI on 2012-05-28 11:03:50
ok i had no more pattience so i deleted the game and installed it but without any mods .. and

The game works perfects ,, 0 slowdowns ,, no crashes ,, so i think its not about my Gc but the mods itself
Title: Re: After 30 minutes Freeze/ Gc drivers
Post by: Kompass63 on 2012-05-28 14:53:14
Hi BAN___KAI

Some mods actually need more graphics power than others, several of these mods together just need a lot of graphics power.
But your card can do that, only after 30 minutes the game runs slower. a mystery...
Maybe you should always install 5 MODs at once to test, in which MOD is critical?

Greetings Kompass63
Title: Re: After 30 minutes Freeze/ Gc drivers
Post by: BAN___KAI on 2012-05-29 16:37:27
Well i only have like 1 quest remaining to finish the game so i i dont need to try fixing anything ,, gonna try killing those damn weapons xD

Thanks for your help m8 ;)
Title: Re: After 30 minutes Freeze/ Gc drivers
Post by: BAN___KAI on 2012-05-31 19:50:56
Just the last question , not related about this issue but for something different

How can i change the game to windowed screen ,, i dont have those mods installed and when i open that ff7_opengl to change it ,, everything is messed up like this

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Title: Re: After 30 minutes Freeze/ Gc drivers
Post by: Kompass63 on 2012-06-01 18:23:25
Never make changes to this file! You have opened the wrong file!
The correct file has the extension ". cfg"
"ff7_opengl.cfg"

If you want to play the game in the window, open the above file with notepad and write instead of "fullscreen = yes", "fullscreen = no".


Greetings Kompass63
Title: Re: After 30 minutes Freeze/ Gc drivers
Post by: BAN___KAI on 2012-06-01 21:47:35
Awesome thanks ,, just finished game xD