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Title: [WIP] Tifa's weapons
Post by: BloodShot on 2012-07-17 23:36:29: I'm working on new models for Tifa's weapons, in no particular order

This is what I have so far

Tiger's Fang/Mythril Claw:

(http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/8903/tfang1.jpg)
(http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/2883/tfang2.jpg)

God's hand/Master fist:
(http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/4836/godshandwip.jpg)
Title: Re: [WIP] Tifa's weapons
Post by: obesebear on 2012-07-17 23:37:57: Impressive for one day's work. Are you a texture artist too?
Title: Re: [WIP] Tifa's weapons
Post by: BloodShot on 2012-07-17 23:39:08: Nope. I've attempted texturing before, with little success. I'm sure I could probably learn it given the time though, but I've mostly been focusing on working on my modelling skills.

Metal Knuckle WIP:
(http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/8148/metalknuckle1wip.jpg)
Title: Re: [WIP] Tifa's weapons
Post by: BloodShot on 2012-07-18 00:26:16: Modified the claws based on this artwork

(http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/017/5/b/FF7_Tifa__s_Weapons_by_SOLDIER_Cloud_Strife.jpg)

Here's the Tiger's Fang variant

(http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/959/tigersfang1.jpg)

And the dragon's Claw variant

(http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/1848/drclaw2.jpg)

(http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/1338/drclaw1n.jpg)
Title: Re: [WIP] Tifa's weapons
Post by: LeonhartGR on 2012-07-18 01:14:20: Really nice attempt BloodShot!!!
Title: Re: [WIP] Tifa's weapons
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2012-07-18 01:28:39: Finish up modeling the set, and make some sweet textures for all of em! If you need help UV'ing lemme know
Title: Re: [WIP] Tifa's weapons
Post by: BloodShot on 2012-07-18 03:02:39: Thanks. I could probably use help on both UVing and texturing when the time comes, though I sort of get UVing right now - but I have no idea how I would make a texture.

Here's the motor drive model:
(http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/6501/motordrive.jpg)
Title: Re: [WIP] Tifa's weapons
Post by: ZL325 on 2012-07-18 06:37:57: Very nice work BloodShot, keep it up!! ^-^
Title: Re: [WIP] Tifa's weapons
Post by: Hellbringer616 on 2012-07-19 13:49:23: Nice, i love how fast you're cranking them out, But with high quality.

Now we just need a high quality Tifa to go with it... :P (totally not nudging Timu on that one)
Title: Re: [WIP] Tifa's weapons
Post by: BloodShot on 2012-07-19 16:42:19: Premium heart
(http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/5694/premiumheart.jpg)

Powersoul
(http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/7536/motordrv.jpg)
Title: Re: [WIP] Tifa's weapons
Post by: BloodShot on 2012-07-19 19:08:29: Update: I present the new base glove model :)

It still needs to be mirrored
(http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/7964/glovem.jpg)
My first hand model, took about an hour
Title: Re: [WIP] Tifa's weapons
Post by: Tenko Kuugen on 2012-07-20 08:46:46: God knows we really needed some updated weapons for Tifa
the old ones look like LEGO
Title: Re: [WIP] Tifa's weapons
Post by: Nightmarish on 2012-07-20 19:08:58: For the glove i think you should do it like a close knucle no?
Title: Re: [WIP] Tifa's weapons
Post by: BloodShot on 2012-07-20 20:04:56: Of course, I was just modelling the thing itself first, as I would've had a harder time making an accurate hand in a closed or semi-closed fist
Title: Re: [WIP] Tifa's weapons
Post by: BloodShot on 2012-07-21 20:58:20: Closed the fingers on the model more, and made UVs and did a quick paint-over to get an idea of how the texture will wrap
(http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/3302/uvhand.jpg)

(http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/5562/gloveuvs.jpg)

EDIT:

My first attempt at texturing something, ever.
Finally got past the fear of it being arduous and just tried it
(http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/2271/firsttexture.jpg)
Used a close picture of a leather glove as a base, faded out and mixed it with some of photoshop's texture patterns and modified it a lot.
Opinions?
Title: Re: [WIP] Tifa's weapons
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2012-07-22 03:15:13: You've got a good idea of how it all works so far! Before you mess with the texture more, refine the model.
Title: Re: [WIP] Tifa's weapons
Post by: BloodShot on 2012-07-22 03:46:17: Thanks. :D

Update, moved some polys around (and added a bit more near the fingers) to make it match better with the texture (so it doesn't stretch as much), added the materia, and refined the skin and manually drew in fingernails.
(http://img803.imageshack.us/img803/5672/tifglovefin.jpg)

I was considering making the fingers a bit higher poly (so they were less angular) but upon zooming out to relatively what you'd see in game it's not very noticeable
Title: Re: [WIP] Tifa's weapons
Post by: BloodShot on 2012-07-23 01:59:19: Got a problem, when I export it as an OBJ the texture is fine, but when I convert it to .3Ds with biturn it mucks up the texture

(http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/2722/texmes.jpg)

It seems like it's using the background of the uvs there instead of the actual coordinates. Any idea how I would fix this?
Title: Re: [WIP] Tifa's weapons
Post by: PitBrat on 2012-07-23 02:06:44: Use the tool PCreator to convert the model.
You have to EDIT | FLIP POLYS to fix the texture alignment.

PCreator.exe Tool to edit Models FILE (http://www.mediafire.com/?12b6w15i3lj3gq1) MIRROR (http://www.mediafire.com/?u0c4175btumrf1g)
Title: Re: [WIP] Tifa's weapons
Post by: BloodShot on 2012-07-23 02:48:13: Nah it's not that, I did that.

And how would I convert it WITH PCreator? I was using Biturn because I only see an option to open .3ds files, not to convert them or anything like that
Title: Re: [WIP] Tifa's weapons
Post by: obesebear on 2012-07-23 03:50:40: Your texture and the UV lines are too close to the edge of each other. I'm fairly certain once you put it in game it will look fine (kimera might display the same as PCreator). If that fails, just scale down the size of your UV coords a hair so it fits even more so within the texture.
Title: Re: [WIP] Tifa's weapons
Post by: BloodShot on 2012-07-23 04:13:45: Ok, I'll try it out first and if not I'll scale it down. Thx for the help

EDIT: Edited the UV coords since it didn't work in game to no avail. The best I could get was when I made the skin texture encompass a much larger area, and the warped part took that skin texture instead of the gray color, but it seems to be very warped specifically on the seam for some reason, even after rescaling the coords and editing the texture itself.

I'm tired so I'm gonna give it a rest for now, I'll take another look at it when I get back tomorrow and hopefully see a little more success.
Title: Re: [WIP] Tifa's weapons
Post by: Zackwell on 2012-07-31 16:50:47: So how's this going? I can't wait to have a tifa who doesn't have two oddly mismatched hands.
Title: Re: [WIP] Tifa's weapons
Post by: Nightmarish on 2012-07-31 21:35:22: I'd focus on doing all the models first and then worry about the textures.
Leave the "hands" for last, they are harded.
Title: Re: [WIP] Tifa's weapons
Post by: archerxtreme on 2012-08-01 16:46:05: Quote from: PitBrat on 2012-07-23 02:06:44
Use the tool PCreator to convert the model.
You have to EDIT | FLIP POLYS to fix the texture alignment.

PCreator.exe Tool to edit Models FILE (http://www.mediafire.com/?12b6w15i3lj3gq1) MIRROR (http://www.mediafire.com/?u0c4175btumrf1g)

Would PCreator be a better choice for body part swaps?
Title: Re: [WIP] Tifa's weapons
Post by: omega res novae on 2012-08-12 14:27:16: any updates bloodshot? is it possible to put the weapon model on both hands or only one?
Title: Re: [WIP] Tifa's weapons
Post by: BloodShot on 2012-08-13 17:06:19: I've done some work on the general weapons but I still haven't gotten the UVs to work properly for the leather glove.

It's only possible to put the weapons on the weapon hand. Theoretically, I could duplicate the model and put it on the other hand, but it wouldn't actually be the other hand, and it would share the weapon hand animations
Title: Re: [WIP] Tifa's weapons
Post by: omega res novae on 2012-08-20 04:41:26: i was messing with field and battle models in kimera. i noticed battle models have 17 pieces and field have 15. the battle contains an ankle and foot piece instead of just foot like the field. i noticed grimmys cloud has 2 pieces that make up the foot in the field model. its hard to explain without showing and you seeing. the feet of his cloud model are made of AAED AAED1 for the left and AAFD AAFD1 for the right. maybe you can use the same method he used to equip tifas weapons to both hands. like **ck and **ck1. ill try tomorrow a little tomorrow with her defaults. idk if itll work

edit
tried it. didnt work. there isnt a add part to bone for the weapon. i tried adding the claws to her other hand and renaming it to rucm1 but it didnt associate that part with the weapon
Title: Re: [WIP] Tifa's weapons
Post by: BloodShot on 2012-09-02 18:51:30: Just wanted to let people know what's going on, I won't be able to work on this for a while (if at all) since I'm pretty busy with college ATM, since I'm now going again.

I apologize that I haven't worked on this anymore for people who have been waiting for it.
Title: Re: [WIP] Tifa's weapons
Post by: Nightmarish on 2012-09-04 11:17:20: Maybe release the models and let somebody texture what's been done?