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Miscellaneous Forums => Graphical => Topic started by: DLPB_ on 2012-08-23 20:34:23
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In my time here at Qhimm's, I have noticed one major problem that is not being addressed(?). That is, we have a number of NPC models that have not been done.
Since the PRP disbanded, no one has really taken up the challenge to finish what they started. We have had a few decent contributors since then, like Dahfa, but 'few' is the operative word here.
I don't mean to sound rude, but I am personally getting fed up of seeing Sephiroth, Cloud, Barrett and Tifa models. I understand that they are popular, and that people mod for their own pleasure as well as everyone else's and I am grateful for that. I also understand that what a person chooses to mod is their business.
But, that doesn't change the fact that we have a serious shortage of models where it really matters. So I ask the modellers around here to at least make an effort to help out finishing the NPC models. If everyone did a small part, it wouldn't take long before we had a full, finished project.
I don't know how much work is being done outside this forum, so if this is already being tackled, then cool. I just wanted to bring to this to people's attention. Also, hopefully Pitbrat or Grimmy can be kind enough to list those NPC which are currently in need of work.
Dan
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I'm seeing plenty of Cloud and Barret models but beside Grimmy's Tifa model, I haven't seen any others but the ripped Kula one. Care to point me to all these versions I don't know? ( and I don't see them in Bootleg either. )
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It isn't that there are so many being made, it is that they are the ONLY ones being made. No one comes along with a much needed NPC that isn't done. It's the same models every time, that we have numerous iterations of.
Especially Barrett, if you look at the UMI
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i would but idk if im good enough model a proportioned person. and i cant texture at all.
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i would but idk if im good enough model a proportioned person. and i cant texture at all.
This isn't aimed at people who can't model :P Nor can I.
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it would benefit your purpose greatly if you would make a list of the models needed. seeing a list actually encourages people to pick one instead of then doing resaearch of what they could pick.
I havent seen Grimmy's Tifa and Yuffie model in action because bootleg39bugs but I sure won't mind an apz cloud level version of each playable character.
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that hurt :cry: im getting better at modeling bit by bit. my textures would be compilations of fabric textures, metal textures and skin textures. i cant make any myself
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that hurt :cry: im getting better at modeling bit by bit. my textures would be compilations of fabric textures, metal textures and skin textures. i cant make any myself
I was not being sarcastic. I genuinely thought you cannot model at all.
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i did a sword for cloud and cait sith's "weapons"
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I've seen some development on Vincent from Timu.
Also on Cid by Felix.
Dunno where they're at or if they plan to finish it.
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i did a sword for cloud and cait sith's "weapons"
8) It is cool.
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what is cool
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what is cool
I am trying to explain to you that I made a mistake earlier. I did not know you modelled. It is cool, I know now.
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ohhhhhh gotcha. give me a week to get the couple things im doing done and ill make something and see if its good enough.
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Do you mind if I keep on going with the backgrounds...? ???
Allso as part of that I might need some ordinary walking/standing/sitting people to inhabit Midgar, unless nobody minds having only the basic crew running around there....
But I think that would be weird, as the team Avalanche is supposed to be somewhat hidden, instead of everyone pretending as a look alike.....that would be a really psychotic Midgar, I think
8)
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I've been working on the Vincent model for some time. Blender is being a bit difficult and I'm trying to experiment a bit with 3ds max and maya so bare with me. Hopefully in a months time I will be done with fully modelling it and then I'll be moving on to texturing, in which I would appreciate any help given. :P
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I thought squallff8 had finished all of the remaining ones?
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I am really bad making 3d models but I can help making textures for the main characters or a similar work :)
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I am pretty sure he didn't Obesebear, because I'm sure I asked Pitbrat recently about if they were all done. What we need most is a list of NPC that are either not done, or need reworking somewhat.
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weeemus is back, as seen on his recent thread.
http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=13489.0 (http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=13489.0)
It says that he will cover all the main characters ^^
I actually prefer his cloud mod over the others because it actually blends in with the fmv.
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This thread is about MISSING NPC MODELS. The first message is my annoyance that they are not being done in favour of the main models.
The whole point of this thread is to ask modellers to do models that have not been done and vent my frustration at the exact thing you have just linked to.
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Hi! I'd like to try this.. so is a list of the currently missing NPC models coming? I can do simple edits with the models and custom textures so I'd like to see what I can contribute..
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I am sure Pitbrat will get round to it :) 8)
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Tell you guys what since my x gf left me and I can't box anymore and I'm 160miles from home give me a week to grab the tools a file list of models still needing to be done and I'll try and get prp back up and going
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http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=4774.msg62916#msg62916
here is a list here that has all the NPC's. Well all the models in the char. but you get my point.
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Pitbrat worked on the UMI doing all the sorting, he will know precisely which NPC and models are not yet done and which PRP did not do originally (a lot seem to have been done since then by others).
8) 8) 8)
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total noob here but hey im going to play around with it till i get a nice NPC or 2
this seems like a project all the noobs (at modeling) should try to participate in
yay for models like fish 1,2&3 :-P
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This thread is about MISSING NPC MODELS. The first message is my annoyance that they are not being done in favour of the main models.
The whole point of this thread is to ask modellers to do models that have not been done and vent my frustration at the exact thing you have just linked to.
...Under his to do list, he said that he would do all the npc's as well
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Any help with the models that haven't been done is welcome. I am just waiting now for PitBrat :) It is a tough, annoying job he has.
I apologise for my outburst, didn't notice that is what you were getting at. 8)
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You know what... If I had the time I'd totally do just that. BUT! My own projects and my own art calls my name. I merely vent my fan enthusiasm for Final Fantasy so that it may not leave an overt imprint over my own creative process. (Classic Doom, FFVII, ALL of Zelda, Soul Reaver, Fight Club... they all call my name and must be exorcized from time to time)
As an artist first and everything else second (I mean work output wise ;) Husband and Father come first) I'll just let yall know that the bulk of my true creative efforts haven't been introduced to the internet at large, and won't until I can garner the time and resources to fulfill them as they should be.
I take no large measure of importance for myself here, even though I storm in and out like a diva screaming for attention... (Let's face it... I'm a polite attention hog)
But more on topic. I appreciate all you've done and led in this community DLPB, and everyone else. I'd love to do the NPC's but there's just only so much one person can do. My own interests obviously are the reasons why I focus where I do... PERHAPS soon I can provide a simple base mesh that can be manipulated at will to suit the purposes of the people on this board. Also included UV's and a simple texture map applied to it that hopefully can be used modularly.
But just like your insistence on complete rational informed translation, I insist on the creators original intention completely fulfilled as well when it comes to chibi field/world models. That's the way the game was intended and designed. That's the way I like to see it. Ergo, that's the one I'll help provide bases for.
This isn't a promise however... It's just my fascination of this place hasn't died down yet, even though I still have too much on my plate before I can contribute to it again.
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So far I found this 2 Models are only retextured but not remodeld:
CIAC (Man 14)
EDEA (Onna)
many other models are incorect, like the 7 year old Tifa (BUAC), having big boobs (is this expression correct?), I mean show me a 7 year old with developed boobs...
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So far I found this 2 Models are only retextured but not remodeld:
CIAC (Man 14)
EDEA (Onna)
many other models are incorect, like the 7 year old Tifa (BUAC), having big boobs (is this expression correct?), I mean show me a 7 year old with developed boobs...
I would but linking to specific R-18 anime and manga stuff is probably against the forum rules
hahaha and ha.
Oh god I'm terrible today.
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If that is true, then someone needs to sort that younger Tifa model out.
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If that is true, then someone needs to sort that younger Tifa model out.
like I said you find this Model at BUAC.hrc....
I made a screenshot:
(http://kingsanimeboard.de/images/Tifa 7yo.jpg)
from this Link https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AniNoDVsrYhVdG0zZERUT0tsOF91eHE2WHo4ZWRseWc&gid=4 (https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AniNoDVsrYhVdG0zZERUT0tsOF91eHE2WHo4ZWRseWc&gid=4), I know that she is 7 Years old, also in the original Model, made by ???Sqaresoft/Enex??? she has Boobs, but I don't have a screenie for this...
Edit:
I looked, where I have this exact model, it's from here:
0.MY REBUILDED MODELS.rar Squallff8 Field models Qhimm (http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=7422.msg158761#msg158761) FILE (https://rapidshare.com/files/1950532954/0.MY%20REBUILDED%20MODELS.rar)
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I agree with KingMB. I've always thought that Tifa model looked kinda "big" :oops: .
I mean just try to compare her height with Cloud from the flashback :-\ .
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Dahfa's Tifa may be ok? He did a version of it?
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I don't know, where can I find it??? (please don't tell me to install something, I only use the "direct"-Folder for new Models, because of problems with the LGP-Tools)
I couldn't find some Tifa-Model by Dahfa, in the great List of finished models...
I made yet a Screenie of the original Model:
(http://kingsanimeboard.de/images/Tifa 7yo org.jpg)
EDIT: here the Folder-Name, by SquallFF8: Tifa(5 years old) (TEMP) :o
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I am not sure of he has it listed on his thread, but if not I or Pitbrat will upload it here.
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I'm looking through the files of Models I could find yet, and found this Models which have need to remodel or error-correction:
BNGD.hrc Dyne (http://kingsanimeboard.de/images/BNGD%20-%20Dyne.jpg), (left Hand as Gun-Model)
CIAC.hrc Man 14 (http://kingsanimeboard.de/images/CIAC%20-%20Man%2014.jpg), could only find the original Model
EDEA.hrc Onna (http://kingsanimeboard.de/images/EDEA%20-%20Onna%20-%20no%20I%20didnt%20forget%20anything.jpg), and no, I didn't forget anything
ETFE.hrc Boy (http://kingsanimeboard.de/images/ETFE%20-%20Boy%20without%20Face.jpg), without face
EUAF.hrc Girl (http://kingsanimeboard.de/images/EUAF%20-%20Girl%20without%20face.jpg), without face
EYIE.hrc Car (http://kingsanimeboard.de/images/EYIE%20-%20Car%20-%20edge%20wheels.jpg), has edgy whells
EZCC.hrc Cat (http://kingsanimeboard.de/images/EZCC%20-%20Cat2%20-%20edge.jpg), to edgy
FBGE.hrc Catcy (http://kingsanimeboard.de/images/FBGE%20-%20catcy%20-%20Cait%20Sith.jpg) (is this one for of Cait Sith?)
FQJB.hrc Dyne (http://kingsanimeboard.de/images/FQJB%20-%20Dyne.jpg), (Model with both hands intact)
FWAE.hrc Esto (http://kingsanimeboard.de/images/FWAE%20-%20Esto.jpg), could only find the original Model
GABE.hrc Wizard (http://kingsanimeboard.de/images/GABE%20-%20Wizard%20-%20Mouth%20and%20Beard%20looking%20freekie.jpg), what is this, with the crazy looking mouth and beard?
GAJC.hrc Dio (http://kingsanimeboard.de/images/GAJC%20-%20Dio%20-%20missing%20body-part%20and%20what%20is%20on%20his%20back.jpg), the Body is missing (no I didn't forget anything), and what is this on his back? (it's not so in the original Model)
GHGF.hrc Mech (http://kingsanimeboard.de/images/GHGF%20-%20Mech%20-%20edge%20wheels.jpg), edgy wheels
GJEB.hrc Minigame Motorbike (http://kingsanimeboard.de/images/GJEB%20-%20Minigame%20Motorbike%20-%20edge%20wheels.jpg), edgy wheels
GNGB.hrc Mogri (http://kingsanimeboard.de/images/GNGB%20-%20Mogri%20-%20without%20eyes.jpg), where are his eyes? the other ones have all their eyes.
this List isn't complete, and maybe some of them are finished yet...
(hope you can understand my bad English, and I also hope that the expression "edge" or "edgy" is correct, when not, I think you see what I mean, when you look into the images.)
EDIT: I don't know if it even possible: one animation of Barret is a total falure, he give Cloud his payment with his right "hand", but Barret has no right hand, instead there he has his havy Machine-Gun (artificial Arm), so how could he 1st hold the money, 2nd drop the money to Cloud... I think if it is possible, someone should change this Animation from his right to hils left hand
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All the models are in Unified Model Installer. But I will upload our nice little set up of all the files in 1 archive for you. They are all separated nice and neat and by modellers name.
I will do it when I get back later.
Dan
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All the models are in Unified Model Installer. But I will upload our nice little set up of all the files in 1 archive for you. They are all separated nice and neat and by modellers name.
I will do it when I get back later.
Dan
thank you, and maybe some other will profit from this...
EDIT: Why don't you change your Program "Unified Model Installer", so that the user can choose, if they want to install the Models in to the LPGs, or into the "direct"-folder?
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thank you, and maybe some other will profit from this...
EDIT: Why don't you change your Program "Unified Model Installer", so that the user can choose, if they want to install the Models in to the LPGs, or into the "direct"-folder?
because that is a lot of messing.
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has a list come together yet of what has been modeled and what hasnt
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I am waiting for pitbrat to post here. He is probably very busy! I will place the pack up later for a few days that contains all the ones that HAVE been done.
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alright in the mean time ill start on my cloud model jk id actually like to see models and/or textures done for summons and enemies
edit i like the cell shaded cloud that was posted by slayersnext in his thread. i think itd be cool to see more of the game like this. to give it a dragon quest or even a borderlands feel. (i know borderlands isnt cell shaded but its the closest way i know to describe it.)
once a list is out or if you can name one that isnt done ill start on it and see if it meets approval
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Pitbrat is working on the list of what is done and not done, and I will wait until he adds the next models to the folders too before I release them all separately.
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I'll be glad to help once the list is up. I've studied in 3D modeling so it ain't a mystery for me.