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Title: Bizarre question about submarine game
Post by: nfitc1 on 2012-08-29 09:35:08
DLPB created a patch to make the sub game more manageable apparently, but I never had the slightest problem with it. What is it about the mini game that makes such a thing needed? Not to knock DLPB. I just want to know.

PS - if this seems rude or oddly worded, know that I'm typing this on an iPad having woke up at 4am and my brain doesn't fully work yet.
Title: Re: Bizarre question about submarine game
Post by: 999s on 2012-08-29 10:07:28
Why didnt you just send him a PM?
Title: Re: Bizarre question about submarine game
Post by: DLPB_ on 2012-08-29 14:03:25
DLPB created a patch to make the sub game more manageable apparently, but I never had the slightest problem with it. What is it about the mini game that makes such a thing needed? Not to knock DLPB. I just want to know.

PS - if this seems rude or oddly worded, know that I'm typing this on an iPad having woke up at 4am and my brain doesn't fully work yet.

The game is quite playable as is (and I haven't released patch yet), however, it is extremely irritating as is.  The Submarine game in PC comes from the Japanese original game revision, and not International or the western versions of FF7.

The key differences between PC/japanese original and the new is that that the original version has a slower submarine.  Slower turning, slower ascent descent...  etc.  Go and play the game on PSX and then go and play it on PC.  The Japanese original also has different placements and numbers of enemy subs.  I am guessing due to negative reception of the sub game, they chose to change the programming for international/western ff7.  I have simply restored the game to their final revision (although I didn't bother restoring the enemy sub data)

Also read my minigame thread, it goes through some of the changes more thoroughly.  My patch also allows a person to opt to use my improved minigame, which adds specific difficulties to each level :)
Title: Re: Bizarre question about submarine game
Post by: EQ2Alyza on 2012-08-29 14:14:21
I think because of the speed of the PC version, you can beat the mini game in a matter of seconds. It'll be nice to slow it down and give it some time to build a climax.
Title: Re: Bizarre question about submarine game
Post by: DLPB_ on 2012-08-29 14:22:40
No the PC version is the slow one.  It is based on the Japanese original one, as I just said.
Title: Re: Bizarre question about submarine game
Post by: EQ2Alyza on 2012-08-29 16:54:49
I misread it as the other way around, sorry.
Title: Re: Bizarre question about submarine game
Post by: DLPB_ on 2012-08-29 16:57:05
I may try to add the enemy sub data back from psx game.  The problem is the PC game is a complete mess.  Some data seems to be coming from the table and some is hardcoded data.  In PSX it is all from the table as far as I can see.

The sub game is the most badly coded thing I have ever seen in VII.