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Miscellaneous Forums => Graphical => Topic started by: Kuroda Masahiro on 2012-11-08 14:33:02
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I was talking to someone, and he gave me the idea to put Cloud in the wheelchair through the entire game.
I did it, and while I was making it, it occurred to me that Sephiroth STABBED cloud through the middle, and it certainly looked like the Masamune was going through his spine, so yeah, after Nibelheim, he became paralized from the waist down!
(and in the zack death, he never stands up, he just crawls around, which further supports this mod.)
anyway, here's a pic.
(http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2012/313/7/b/ff7_handicapable_cloud_by_video_boy_mal-d5kgfhk.png)
I changed every field model to have a wheelchair (except flashback ones) and I added in a special shinra soldier who was in a wheelchair for when Cloud is in Junon and changed the model for Cloud there.
If anyone is interested, I'll release this.
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This is Armoured Nanaki V1.
(http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2012/319/5/e/ff7_armoured_nanaki_v1_by_video_boy_mal-d5l2pae.png)
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Um.... How's that going to work out with limits? Not to say it's not an amusing idea, but I can't imagine Cloud in a wheel chair doing things like dressing like a woman, jumping off a train, performing Omnislash, etc.
Also, It's a major plot point that Jenova cells can heal injuries like that.
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The wheelchair is moved along as if he has legs, but the wheels are static.
I find it odd that you mention limit breaks and NOT the fact he climbs ladders.
Personally I found it amusing to watch the wheelchair stay at his waist, even while he's doing things like meteorain, omnislash, climhazard, climbing ladders, etc.
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The guy regularly carries around a sword that probably weights over 200 lbs, can swing it like it's a wiffle bat and it's NOT odd that he can climb ladders with only the strength of his arms? :)
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while keeping a wheelchair securely at his waist? did he wrap his legs aroud it or use the same cement for his hair on the chair? =P
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Is it wrong that this reminds me of Joe from Family Guy?
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Maybe the chair has a seatbelt of sorts
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LOL i love your crazy ideas Kuroda xD very creative haha
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it's a good laugh ;D
are you going to give the other crutches? (maybe link it to the HP, if the HP is getting low for someone, get them crutches :roll:)
Do we need to adjust all the fields to make them wheel chair friendly?
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Ramps for everyone - Especially in the Shinra building.
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If you thought Handicapable Cloud was good, then prepare yourselves!
for Cloud...
HAS A PET!
Handicapable Nanaki!
(http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2012/314/f/6/handicapable_nanaki_by_video_boy_mal-d5kknkv.png)
...I did this after talking to someone and he said it would be funny if Nanaki had his back legs off and those wheels on instead.
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lol
sorry, couldn't resist....
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8207/8170435251_f4fd741c3d_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/39897743@N05/8170435251/)
detail shot:
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7261/8170464896_a3d138d94f_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/39897743@N05/8170464896/)
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Cloud: NOOOOOOOOOO!! Stairs! my eternal enemy!
Barret: I ain't carryin' your spiky ass up those 60 flights of stairs!
Tifa: You can always... drag your chair up, or kinda... hop...
Cloud: ...How in the hell am I going to hop up around 6000 stairs!?
also, I rewrote othe bits of the game, such as when Tifa is ahnging onto cloud's arm after th air buster fight, speaking of which, Cloud's wheelchair would weigh 42 pounds. :P
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I got this to work by quite simply...
I glued the wheelchair to cloud's waist, then I cut off cloud's legs and feet, glued them to his waist.
Presto, 100% working cloud, I was looking at most of his animations, and very few even need to be changed since his waist is at a consistent height (ie, while walking, running, using his sword, etc) and during some scenes, its just amusing to watch cloud flip off trains and whatnot. =3
so, no field edits had to be done, apart from making a new char.lgp hrc file of a shinra soldier with a wheelchair, and then tell the flevel to load that instead of the normal soldier that cloud becomes in Junon and on the cargo ship.
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Cloud: NOOOOOOOOOO!! Stairs! my eternal enemy!
Barret: I ain't carryin' your spiky ass up those 60 flights of stairs!
Tifa: You can always... drag your chair up, or kinda... hop...
Cloud: ...How in the hell am I going to hop up around 6000 stairs!?
also, I rewrote othe bits of the game, such as when Tifa is ahnging onto cloud's arm after th air buster fight, speaking of which, Cloud's wheelchair would weigh 42 pounds. :P
This mod opens a whole new "level" of pain =D
Though I think Cloud is more of the serious sarcastic (... yes conflicting indeed) type then the screaming complainer.
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I was basing cloud in the little mini based off obstinate melon's Cloud
and in case anyone didn't see his webcomic, here it is.
http://obstinatemelon.deviantart.com/gallery/25038206
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I got this to work by quite simply...
I glued the wheelchair to cloud's waist, then I cut off cloud's legs and feet, glued them to his waist.
Presto, 100% working cloud, I was looking at most of his animations, and very few even need to be changed since his waist is at a consistent height (ie, while walking, running, using his sword, etc) and during some scenes, its just amusing to watch cloud flip off trains and whatnot. =3
so, no field edits had to be done, apart from making a new char.lgp hrc file of a shinra soldier with a wheelchair, and then tell the flevel to load that instead of the normal soldier that cloud becomes in Junon and on the cargo ship.
errr.... talking about animation....how do you plan to solve the cutscene where cloud escapes on a motorbike?
The escape (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrnoZxv0C4o)
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Cutscenes are cutscenes.
Those don't need to be changed, and for the motorcycle minigame, all i really did was kill the motorcycle off and replaced it with the wheelchair, so yaaaay, wheelchair to the rescue!
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And jumping off the pillar in Sector 7? Cloud somehow shimmies up to Barret's head?
I know, this is just for fun, but this game wasn't designed for a handicapped map being the main character.
A wheel'd Nanaki seems fun until you get to the Junon boat scene, but still fun stuff. :)
Now we need a derp'd Cait Sith. :D
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can we have a blind Caith, constantly walking into everyone, waving a stick around?
Barret could be deaf (due to the giant gun at his hand) that could be easily done by changing his dialogue to "What did you say....?"
just some random thoughts :D
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Those don't need to be changed, and for the motorcycle minigame, all i really did was kill the motorcycle off and replaced it with the wheelchair, so yaaaay, wheelchair to the rescue!
Cloud doing 200mph on a turbo-charged wheeliechair while swinging his massive sword chopping off Shinra soldiers on bikes and saves the day? O.o Surely this is a must watch haha xD Don't forget the exhausts with some firepower coming out from behind ;)
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I was basing cloud in the little mini based off obstinate melon's Cloud
and in case anyone didn't see his webcomic, here it is.
http://obstinatemelon.deviantart.com/gallery/25038206
You just keep bringing out the awesome...
Well I know what my weekend is going to be invested in...
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Barret could be missing his other hand too! Give him one of those really tiny hooks.
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Hm, whenever I do a minor mod of Barret, I usually just GIVE him a hand, and for battle, I make him hold a gun or something.
But, for the handicapable mod, this is pretty much it, since both Nanaki and Cloud work 100% in the field and battle, and I replaced several minigames (its now wheelchair races instead of chocobo races) so yeah, it's... done.
it works better if its just 1 or 2 things amiss than everyone.
Off topic though, does anyone here have any ideas for how to give Yuffie Barret and Cid a decent redesign other than her Advent children one?
I'm trying to pick up an unfinished mod from a while back now that I have my windows comp working again, and I have a redesign for everyone except those 3 people, and I don't really have any designs in mind for them, apart from giving Yuffie a more traditional ninja attire.
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Cid could be in an astronaut suit :P
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In case anyone is interested in seeing what I have for the others, this is it.
(http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2012/315/e/5/ff7_lp_crew_wip_by_video_boy_mal-d5knrdj.png)
Cloud - green jacket, black shirt, jeans, black pauldron + gloves + boots
Tifa - blue shirt, black 3/4 trousers, brown boots, untied hair.
Aeris - Blue jacket, black shirt, beige trousers, black boots, blue ribbon
Red 13 - Unchanged, but I considered giving him either some armour or some native american clothing.
Yuffie - Undecided
Cait Sith - Unchanged
Cid - Undecided
Barret - Undecided
Vincent - Hybrid of his own clothes and Sephiroth's. (about 80% of the field and battle model parts are the exact same size.)
Sephiroth - Old Soldier 1st class + his boots.
In the LP, the enemy soldiers are redesigned, making Sephiroth's 'uniform' unique.
I just need something for Yuffie, Cid and Barret...
and space suit is a no go, imagine using a spear with one. =P
Although, I am thinking that I could simply make Yuffie wear the Redesigned Shiva's clothes...
(http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/056/1/d/ff7_mini_mod__tifa_cosplays_hel_by_video_boy_mal-d4qw5la.png)
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Maybe something like this for Yuffie?:
http://mimg.ugo.com/201101/1/1/0/162011/cuts/ayame-tenchu_528_poster.jpg
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think nanaki should be left unchanged, or changed somewhat?
i did this in about 5 minutes to see on a basic level how he would look with armour.
(http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2012/315/1/6/ff7_armoured_nanaki_wip_by_video_boy_mal-d5kozc8.png)
done properly, it'll be better shaped to his body, have underside armour, it'll go over part of his tail and i'd probably put a small sash and scabbard over his shoulder and have him hold a knife in his mouth in battle.
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A few plates on his thighs and maybe a 'helm' and it'd look pretty sharp!
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I tried a helmet, and it just didn't really work because it 'covers up' (aka, deletes) his head hair, which is pretty iconic for Nanaki.
(http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2012/317/9/f/fully_armoured_nanaki_difference_by_video_boy_mal-d5ksy7d.png)
This is what I have so far, and I'm considering giving him a little scabbard and a knife in his mouth, kinda like Repede, from Tales of Vesperia.
(http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/215/5/7/Repede_by_Lowawawah.jpg)
Anyone for the idea?
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How about a cyborg eye?
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Where in Final Fantasy 7 am I supposed to get a Cyborg eye from? Only good ones are off certain robotic enemies, and they are pretty low poly and look pretty bad, and most of them aren't even red, like the stereotypical cyborg eyes in things like Terminator.
And for the time being, I gave Yuffie a redesign, but i'm working on making her more ninja-esc, FF7 isn't very generous in that department and i'll have to splice just about everything I want to use for it.
for instance, for the forearm, I'll need to take Pollensca's forearm, recolour it to Yuffie's skin tone, cut it in half and recolour the other half to be almost black, then I'll have to take something else, such as either Tifa's Couter, or from another enemy, such as Motorball, reshape it to fit around Yuffie's Forearm as a realistic lower cannon of vambrace, and for the hand, I can just take the final battle sephiroth's hand and then recolour all but the fingers black and resize them.
But, for the chest, that's going to be more annoing because i'll have to take Shiva's midriff, recolour it, then find something that can work for the short shirt the ninja had, resize and reshape it to fit around Yuffie until it fits better.
luckily the legs can just be a recoloured version of what I already have.
Note, I can model pretty well, but for FF7 mods, I always splice for the key reason that it's hard to get decent baked lightning and ensure that the model fits the mdel standards of FF7 and its just easier to ensure this by splicing.
for things like resident evil or silent hill, I always just model my mods.
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Just so you know your mod and you yourself are epic.
Handicapable Cloud genius!
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I'm interested in the release of all three of these mods. Hopefully you have them in two places if you aren't ready to release them yet, because whitERaven had tons of half-completed mod models he didn't release or store online and he lost them all in a Hard Drive crash.
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LoL ;D ;D ;D can't help but laugh on those cloud and nanaki with wheels.. you really made good use of the available parts in game.. I personally like what you did with vincent , looks badass.
I really set a bad example on the hdd crash, LoL this is the second post where I saw my name in a "don't do what this guy did" warning, LoL ;D ;D ;D somehow this makes me look stupid..
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...Why is it that I had to defend the idea of cloud being in a wheelchair several times, and have 10 days of silence, and THEN people start getting interested in this!?
(shakes head) I am disappoint.
Oh, out of interest, for the mod compilation I was doing (which had civilian cloud, casual tifa, Sephy-Vinny, etc)
Should I have Aeris or Jenova?
if it has Aeris...
(http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2011/354/a/4/ff7_aeris_cosplays_dylan_by_video_boy_mal-d4jnlg7.png)
And this is Jenova.
(http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs47/f/2009/247/0/0/ff7_new_mod_human_jenova_wip_by_video_boy_mal.jpg)
Which would you rather be used?
And I guess I'll just have to release Handicapable Cloud + Nanaki as well as Armoured Nanaki. =P
I just need to fix up a couple other things, but i'll let that go by the public as well.
Chocobo racing...
Would you rather it have chocobos, motorcycles or wheelchairs for handicapable cloud? (and the motorcycle would have fixed animations, not like other mods in which it was bobbing all over the place.)
if it has wheelchairs, then i need to get every other thing sorted for wheelchair racing (fusing together the legs more than anything, which is annoying) as well as fixing animations.
if i keep chocobos, then I just need to change an animation or two.
If i put in motorcycles, then I just need to go into my older mods and get the file out, since its 100% ready. =P