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Title: FFX MUSIC DOWNLOAD!!!
Post by: Joey on 2001-06-19 14:13:00
Download FFX soundtrack here. requires Audiogalaxy. Click Here
Title: FFX MUSIC DOWNLOAD!!!
Post by: Sir Canealot on 2001-06-19 17:13:00
Intresting. But I have to leave for a bloody re exam in 15 minutes  :x damn god!

Will check it later.

Thanks.

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Post by: MMiller8 on 2001-06-19 17:57:00
Uhm, I feel stupid.  I signed up and all, (i'm a sucker) and I tried to download one by clicking on the link, but nothing happened.   HOW do I download all the songs, and WHAT THE HELL does that little satelite button do?  I pressed them all down.
Title: FFX MUSIC DOWNLOAD!!!
Post by: Joey on 2001-06-20 11:13:00
HINT: To queue the most popular bitrate/size of a song click on the Satellite Icon  

Definition - The Satellite Button will make your Satellite to download that song instantly if there are no current downloads.
NOTE: The audiogalaxy Satellite MUST be running. It will download the requested song and store it in C:/my music(default).

To download, click on the Satellite button. To view the song's info or choose a version, click on the title.

Title: FFX MUSIC DOWNLOAD!!!
Post by: Joey on 2001-06-20 13:08:00
So far, I have 8 tracks from that site. Some of them sound like the music of previous FFs, though.
Title: FFX MUSIC DOWNLOAD!!!
Post by: MMiller8 on 2001-06-20 23:35:00
oh man... If some of these tracks are really from FFX... we are in for ONE HELL of a great composition.  Try especially FFX: Crumbling of Time Extended
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Post by: Sir Canealot on 2001-06-21 16:11:00
Both version of the battle music I got are fake. There just some midi playing in front of a battle from FFVIII.

What crap.

Title: FFX MUSIC DOWNLOAD!!!
Post by: MMiller8 on 2001-06-21 05:08:00
Oh, I know the battle music is fake.  I agree with you; that stuff IS complete and utter yipple-dung.  Try downloading 'sky'.
Title: FFX MUSIC DOWNLOAD!!!
Post by: Joey on 2001-06-21 10:57:00
Maybe. But, suketi de ne is I think, real.
Title: FFX MUSIC DOWNLOAD!!!
Post by: MMiller8 on 2001-06-21 17:49:00
That was good, too.
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Post by: Anonymous on 2001-06-24 17:38:00
U guys all interested in Japanese actor n actress huh?Hey Joey do u know who i m?
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Post by: Joey on 2001-06-25 11:36:00
Kerry!!! Nice to meet ya here!!! Register to get ranks!!! Just post a topic u want and everyone will dicuss about it like this one. Continue to visit, will ya!
Title: FFX MUSIC DOWNLOAD!!!
Post by: Jedimark on 2001-06-25 13:20:00
Hmmm, I can see where this is going! Kerry and Joey ay! heh heh  :wink:
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Post by: Kerry on 2001-06-26 20:42:00
Hulloooo!We're just pen pals!Rite arent't we?
Anyway,it's great 2 meet u guys all up here!
Title: FFX MUSIC DOWNLOAD!!!
Post by: MMiller8 on 2001-06-27 06:35:00
Have any of you ever seen the british comedy called Red Dwarf?  If you have, what music theme do you think the Cat should have?  I was thinking the song 'The Cat' by Jimmy Smith.  Sorta a Austin Powers type hippie jazz song.  Really catchy and stylish.
Title: FFX MUSIC DOWNLOAD!!!
Post by: Joey on 2001-06-27 12:42:00
Oi! We are just pen pals. And does anyone here have the Power Office Girls(Shomuni) Closing Theme?
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Post by: Jedimark on 2001-06-27 13:21:00
Joey: Oaky it's just I don't think you've ever welcomed anyone to the board like that before, and then when someone joins with a girls name your all "Nice to meet ya" and "Welcome the the board". Wots wrong, your girlfriend been shaving your legs again?

MMiller8: I don't think Cat needs a theme tune the music on Red Dwarf is good enough as it is! I liked the Arnold Rimmer song that was hillarious!

"Arnold, Arnold, Arnold Rimmer,
More reliable than a garden strimmer,
He's handsome, bold a fantastic slimmer,
He will never need a zimmer!"

Heh heh  :)

Title: FFX MUSIC DOWNLOAD!!!
Post by: MMiller8 on 2001-06-27 17:50:00
Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee's AAAAAArnold arnold arnold Rimmer! Lah dee dah de dah... got an .mp3 of THAT song?
Title: FFX MUSIC DOWNLOAD!!!
Post by: Kerry on 2001-06-27 21:21:00
That is so lame!Really Joey ur gf have been shaving ur legs huh?Okok!Just joking by the way!
Title: FFX MUSIC DOWNLOAD!!!
Post by: Jedimark on 2001-06-27 22:16:00
Joey, it isn't a good sign when your girlfriend starts shaving your legs! I think maybe she's trying to tell you something.
Title: FFX MUSIC DOWNLOAD!!!
Post by: MMiller8 on 2001-06-27 23:28:00
Like, for example:  'What I REALLY want is a WOMAN in bed with me'!
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Post by: M0T on 2001-06-28 02:54:00
LOL  :D there are  going to be a few other changes to be made with the blade on that razor...
Title: FFX MUSIC DOWNLOAD!!!
Post by: Skillster/RedSarg99 on 2001-06-28 03:50:00
oi oi
dont even go there
we got allsorts of ppl on this board,
and im not gonna tolerate anything indecent or explicid ok?
Title: FFX MUSIC DOWNLOAD!!!
Post by: Anonymous on 2001-06-28 07:38:00
sorry to tell you guys but they are 100% FAKE!
i downloaded them on napster about 5 months ago.
Title: FFX MUSIC DOWNLOAD!!!
Post by: MMiller8 on 2001-06-28 17:48:00
Even if they ARE fake, they're still good to listen to.
Title: FFX MUSIC DOWNLOAD!!!
Post by: M0T on 2001-06-28 19:28:00
I didnt say anyhing, its all what you are thinking of in your mind, I was actually talking about removing some of his vocal chords so his voice is higher.
Ha you have the dirty stuff in your mind!
Title: FFX MUSIC DOWNLOAD!!!
Post by: Caddberry on 2001-07-01 13:00:00
Skillster .. just curious but who the hell do you think you are saying what we can and cant post on these boards? Last time i checked you werent a mod... anyway who really defines explicit anyway.. oooh ooh i know we can start rating posts in the topic just for you skillster.. They can be G, PG, PG-13, R, and X.. there ya go... we can rate them .. that way if there is any thing that is deemed explicit you dont have to read it.. Come to think of it last time i checked the internet was based on Free Speech.. I dont really see any harassment here so whats the problem..

(Sorry it just got to me, and i probably way overreacted)

Title: FFX MUSIC DOWNLOAD!!!
Post by: Jedimark on 2001-07-01 14:28:00
And we can implement a 9pm Watershed too!!
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Post by: M0T on 2001-07-02 03:07:00
I stand by my first post, he needs to have his genetalia removed to make him into a woman, I posted after 9pm etc
Title: FFX MUSIC DOWNLOAD!!!
Post by: Joey on 2001-07-03 13:20:00
My girlfriend isn't a lesbian. Anyway, my hair is back now.
Title: FFX MUSIC DOWNLOAD!!!
Post by: Skillster/RedSarg99 on 2001-07-03 13:50:00
listen i mayb no mod,
but as the most experinced Vet' here im gonna stand to keep good morals here so nerr  :P
Title: FFX MUSIC DOWNLOAD!!!
Post by: The SaiNt on 2001-07-03 17:11:00
Skillster : Totally agreed.

Guys, I know that General isn't my "territory" but Skillster is right, tone down ok?

Title: FFX MUSIC DOWNLOAD!!!
Post by: eerrrr on 2001-07-03 20:33:00
LOL, but just one quick question. Is your hair all stubbly now Joey?
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Post by: M0T on 2001-07-03 22:08:00
*Turns his tone control down*
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Post by: Sir Canealot on 2001-07-03 22:43:00
*considers the odds of Joeys girlfreind existing*

*Gets big book of odds*

Whoa. To think there is more chance of  Koala bears mounting barrels and chaseing you to your death than Joeys girl freind existing. What facts!

Title: FFX MUSIC DOWNLOAD!!!
Post by: MMiller8 on 2001-07-04 03:42:00
sir canealot, do you play rayman 2?
Title: FFX MUSIC DOWNLOAD!!!
Post by: Caddberry on 2001-07-04 11:48:00
I still say thats way bogus.. Skillster you say your the most expierenced vet here.. DUDE ITS A MESSAGE BOARD!!! not a way of life.. its a way for people to communicate thoughts, feelings, problems, questions, comments.. after people know each other who really cares.. you find cursing all over the internet.. ALL OVER!!! seriously.. I dont really think anyone has the right and yes i said ANYONE has the right to promote censorship except Qhimm because its his site.. if he doesnt want any form of cursing i would definitely respect that because he made it he is the God here.. As for mods their duty is to uphold Qhimms laws so to speak.. i dont ever remember him saying dont curse.. *i dont remember it may have happened correct me if i am wrong* (yes if someones being harrassed thats different but ya see thats where mods duty comes into play) but c'mon now.. and Qhimm I would really appreciate your opinion here.. .. i would just like to know what you think about censorship on this board.. Its not CyberSex, Kiddie Porn, Hell any porno, Harrassment.. (maybe to joey it is but he deserves it most of the time anyway)

Really think here people.. hold on gotta light a cigarette.. going off on a tangent  :)

I say pooh, poop, crap, crud, many more.. what do i mean? I mean Shit ... so why not say it..

People made the language and its just a word.. thats all it is think about it.. its a word.. I believe there are no restrictions anywhere except kiddie sites and AoHell where you can curse...

Really the only person i feel that has a right to restrict cursing and bad language should be Qhimm.. I've seen it in other posts.. I use the language its just natural for me to do so.. I can use asteriks Fu*k is that better? Cuz anyone that can read knows what that is..

Check this quote out then i will shut up until someone responds  :)

"Censorship always defeats its own purpose, for it creates, in the end, the kind of society that is incapable of exercising real discretion... In the long run it will create a generation incapable of appreciating the difference between independence of thought and subservience." - Henry Steele Commager

Think about it.

Title: FFX MUSIC DOWNLOAD!!!
Post by: Skillster/RedSarg99 on 2001-07-04 13:48:00
i may not b a mod, but i think we need to have a desecion from ALL the mods, as qhimm cant monitor this board 24/7, so lets hear it guys, isnt this going abit overboard?
Title: FFX MUSIC DOWNLOAD!!!
Post by: MMiller8 on 2001-07-04 18:49:00
We voted for the mods, and the ones we wanted were elected.  The moderators were elected to do a job, and we elected them because we thought they might do it well.  In my opinion, we have no right to tell them how to do their job, as it is us who chose them.  I am sure Qhimm and the mods have seen this thread, and if they deemed it inappropriate, they are thinking about deleting it.  Come on guys, lay off.  I don't care how long you've been here, you aren't a mod.  Let them do their job.
Title: FFX MUSIC DOWNLOAD!!!
Post by: ficedula on 2001-07-04 19:29:00
OK ... this sounds like my cue to step in.

I didn't post anything when Skillster first came in because I didn't think anybody had said anything out of order ... I took the comments just before that as a joke (and not a *particular* explicit one, either).

My personal view on this topic?

One, a few people were Joey-bashing ... ok, ok, it was joking, but in this topic he hadn't posted anything really stupid. Like I said, I wasn't going to delete peoples posts over it though.

Two, yeah, swearing is something people are always going to disagree on. I'm just going to ask you to think about what you're posting, ok? This is a site where kids could very well end up so don't go posting messages like *full* of swear words or anything.

Unless Qhimm or the other mods disagree I'm not going to delete anybody's messages over this, but just bear what I've said in mind, right?

Title: FFX MUSIC DOWNLOAD!!!
Post by: The SaiNt on 2001-07-04 20:36:00
I don't personally like deleting posts either. Neither do I like closing threads. I don't even like telling people what to do either.

But honestly guys, know your limits, ok?
I know I don't want to read about suicide articles in my local newspaper anytime soon.   :wink:

Don't ask me why, go figure yourself.

*EDIT*
Damn typos

[This message has been edited by The SaiNt (edited July 04, 2001).]

Title: FFX MUSIC DOWNLOAD!!!
Post by: Qhimm on 2001-07-04 21:15:00
*dark clouds sweep in* KRA-BOOM! *lightning strikes*
Why yes, it's another divine intervention!

It has been brought to my attention that you want my view on this. Very well.

First of all, if anything in my posts seem a bit vague or self-contradicting, it is probably related to my fever.

Like I've said earlier, I'm not going to impose any censorship on this place; this board was created for the free exchange of ideas, tips and opinions. However, I have also always requested that the people who choose to be here consider what they're writing a bit. l33t-speak, heavy swearing, unrelated topics, personal insults, they're all things without which the board becomes easier to read, and more importantly, a nicer places to be at.

Remember, I'm not saying that I'm banning people from doing this, just asking nicely. When I get back and need to catch up on the board, it's so much easier to go through a number of well-organized, clean, on-topic posts than having to sort through "whadda fuck r u sayin?" and "did you know hippos are blue behind the ears? I didn't know that". Really.

And come on, can't you all give the Joey-bashing a rest now? I for one am getting pretty tired of it all, the casual bashing is even more annoying than Joey's outbursts. Leave it, there must be more honorable things in life to find humor in. Not to say that I'm tolerating Joey's behaviour, either. "Just post a topic u want and everyone will dicuss about it like this one". This board is not meant for people to try and rattle up a lot of posts about nothing or whatever I should call it. I created it with hopes of keeping it civilized, with at least semi-intellectual discussions in here. There are plenty of other places where you can attempt to lower the total average IQ. Sorry if I sound cranky, but I'm actually quite tired of this. I tolerate it because I'm also a nice guy with a lot of patience. Just remember that it's not unlimited, if this place (General) deteriorates even further I will be forced to do some heavy cleaning in here.

Title: FFX MUSIC DOWNLOAD!!!
Post by: Skillster/RedSarg99 on 2001-07-05 02:46:00
my thoughts exactly
know your limits, also think about what your saying, think about others feelings before u say it.
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Post by: Caddberry on 2001-07-05 11:14:00
Thank you Mr. Jesus Qhimm  :)  Seriously i didnt think any of the comments were outta line anyway.. I really do respect what you said Qhimm.. Thats all i wanted was that good 'ol divine intervention.. and i wanted your opinion on it.. I wasnt saying that i have a problem with mods cuz thats what they are there for.. If they said jump.. well you get the idea.. It was more or less curiosity for me, and i wanted to hear what Qhimm had to say on this issue.. cuz every where it is an issue.. I try not to curse that much and i try to keep my sick twisted american mind outta the gutter here... But i like and will respect your answer.. Thank you
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Post by: Joey on 2001-07-05 13:39:00
Ok....Ok.....Maybe I'm just curios about something and that I want to find a solution for it. So sorry.....Qhimm. I promise you that I will not post stupid threads again......maybe until there are no more good topics left.....Anyway......I meant no messing around.......I feel.......Speechless..........after looking at Qhimm's comments about me............
Title: FFX MUSIC DOWNLOAD!!!
Post by: eerrrr on 2001-07-05 22:14:00
Hey get well soon Qhimm!
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Post by: Jedimark on 2001-07-06 12:58:00
 
Quote
Thank you Mr. Jesus Qhimm

Oh dear... get a grip of reality mate.

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Post by: M0T on 2001-07-06 19:24:00
Not quite Jesus I think :)
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Post by: Jedimark on 2001-07-07 01:59:00
Hey I dont know if any of u guys can help me here but....

I downloaded Internet Explorer 6.0 from microsoft.com and installed it. When my computer loaded up again after it was restarted I got an "EXPLORER" error saying that there was a problem with the file SHELL32.DLL and the computer loaded no futher. I have had tones of people looking at it and I eventualy gave in and formated the computer and started from scrath.

When I re-instaled Windows 98 the install program kept crashing Lo and behold SHELL32.DLL was the culprit!  :x Now what I can't understand is that if I did I clean format and re-install how can the problem remain?  :-?

Any suggestions anyone?

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Post by: MMiller8 on 2001-07-07 16:21:00
Correct me if i'm wrong... but isn't 6.0 a beta?  I'd stick with 5.0.
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Post by: Joey on 2001-07-07 16:27:00
Here's a number of possible reasons:

1)The copy of your MSIE is corrupt or virus infected.
This is a very high possibility. MS's IE download has been known to be really corrupt at times and that the virus stays in your BIOS even after you reformatted it. Solution:Replace the computer(run a DOS based Antivirus scanner (i.e Symantec's Virus remover(Download from http://www.symantec.com/nav  )

2)Your version of IE is fake or beta
As if you didin't know, there are many fake MS sites out there with lots of virus waiting 4 u 2 download. Also, Beta versions of IEs are known to corrupt critical system files. Solution :Delete the copy/reformat the computer/reinstall windows.

Title: FFX MUSIC DOWNLOAD!!!
Post by: Joey on 2001-07-07 16:34:00
Forgot to add: Symantec's website is temporarily down todey. try again later.
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Post by: Sukaeto on 2001-07-07 08:33:00
Joey: do you have ANY clue WHAT you are talking about?

hmm . . . so you're getting a Shell32.dll error during the installation of Windows?  I wouldn't think that these two problems are related, but it seems like a strange co-incidence.  Try using a friend's Win98 CD and seeing if it gives you the same error.

Title: FFX MUSIC DOWNLOAD!!!
Post by: Jedimark on 2001-07-07 20:48:00
No I got the Shell32.dll error when I instaled IExplorer 6.0 and then when I formated the hard drive the Shell32.dll error was still there.
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Post by: Caddberry on 2001-07-09 12:41:00
Hey yeah Qhimm Christ right?  LoL it was a joke anyway.. Sheesh.. Reality i have no grip of except the surreal boundaries that border from time to time as i slip in and out of Dreams.. he he he

About the Shell32 thing Joey *(&*(@&#$*Y&*Y&^!&&*^!@#* GOD MAN YOUR A MORON!!! He probably got it from a valid website or from a friend .. i highly doubt sommeone wrote a damn virus into 6.0 and yes its a beta.. Boy Christ Jesus Wept son of a .. anyway.. even if it was a virus unless it was a crafty one it should have perished with the format.. try something else.. (at the command prompt)

C:>Format C: (or your hd) /u

*this does an unconditional format*

or if you get really pissed at it

C:>FDISK

and kill the partitions.. **nothing lives through that.. you better have your disks ready.. you boot to nothing.. infact i dont even believe you get a prompt.. be careful with Fdisk.. and you may want to read up on partitioning your HD.. thats what it does.. it basically just removes the partition so the computer cant find data.. it doesnt really kill anything.. so yeah FDSIKING will not help if the cops are after your HD..

::advertiser voice::
Just use the Standard DOD Government shredder
.. hell they can even pass that too.. it just makes it harder  :)

good luck.. but nothing lives past new partitions...

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Post by: Jedimark on 2001-07-09 13:07:00
Yeah I think I have sorted it now. I did something called a "Low Level Format" which is what I think you were talking about Caddberry. It took damm nearly half the night but when I came to install Windows 98 again it never crashed like it did before so I think my problem is sorted  :)
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Post by: mirex on 2001-07-09 20:38:00
Caddberry: Viruses that are stored in bios won't be destroyed if you format your hard-drive.

And I can't get it why low-level format was needed. Maybe format c:/q/u (quicker) would be enough too.

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Post by: ficedula on 2001-07-09 21:41:00
True. Luckily bios viruses are fairly rare since they only work on one bios model (=one motherboard) generally. (And usually they aren't long-term as such; they just wipe the bios so the computer dies). You're fscked if you *do* get one though, unless you're lucky enough to have a dual bios.
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Post by: Jedimark on 2001-07-10 14:16:00
Well I tried format c:/q/u and all the other combinations etc but I read somewhere that formating does not remove a) your internet history [index.dat or somet] and b) your system files! This makes sense as when I did a Low Level Format everything started working again including the System File that was corrupt in the First Place (Shell32.dll). So I would advise no one to download Internet Explorer 6.0!!! I quite like the new MSN Explorer that has MSN Messenger Integrated into it.   :)

Edit - Ooooooo I'm an insane Poster  :)

[This message has been edited by Jedimark (edited July 10, 2001).]

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Post by: ficedula on 2001-07-10 15:34:00
Umm ... formatting - any sort - should remove *all* files. Only thing it doesn't clear is boot records generally. Didn't think IE6 would update that! but I guess you never know.
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Post by: mirex on 2001-07-11 11:10:00
no way. Your history can be removed also manualy, and format will destroy it for sure.
Btw when Im reinstalling system, Im not formatting, I just rename old system directory and system files, then I install new system, and it is totaly clean. No problems, and it takes only about hour.
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Post by: Caddberry on 2001-07-12 11:16:00
Ok about bios viruses and the like.. now lets be honest here people.. most viruses now are Visual Basic, C, C++ .. even some in Pascal.. to code a Bios virus wouldnt you have to use Assembly? I mean atleast if you were going to write one .. wanted to do it right sorta thing.. plus not many have the knowlege of writing viruses like that.. unless you really pissed off someone i really wouldnt worry about that.. oh n e way..

I have seen formats where it allows you to leave the system files .. i thought you had to type C:>format /s and it would retain or copy system files.. they may have changed it though.. I just use FDISK.. i think it works the best when your really frusterated want everything to die and dont wanna play Unreal Tournament, FF, whatever  for awhile anyway..  :) they might have changed that though.. god Computers are so user friendly i wanna puke sometimes...

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Post by: dagsverre on 2001-07-12 13:25:00
I wouldn't advise to low level format...not if you are talking about that option in your BIOS settings at least. It has a potential for destroying newer hard drives because it formats them like the older ones...or so Jari told me. The newer BIOSes don't have a low-level format option anyway...

If you are really paranoid about it you can always get hold of a linux boot-disk and type "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda". Should wipe things clean. Or, you can download a tool from the manufacturers web-site (those custom hard drive tools are usually quite good...at least the ones I've touched...lets you recover a totally broken hard disk sometimes).

Now for what I really wanted to say. Look on why viruses exists in the first place. Granted, in the later years it's been a lot of 31337 script kiddies that have taken advantage of Microsofts idiotic system design, but traditionally viruses is something that had prestige...creating a good virus really proved you knew your stuff. So I think most people created them to test their abilities and perhaps gain some bragging rights.

Anyway, the old-school viruses and the new-school viruses are like two completely different worlds. There is NO WAY that any old school virus were written in a high-level language. Those viruses were able to completely integrate themselves into exisiting programs...detect which parts of the programs were unused, and put themselves there. The best viruses never left a trace, files had the same file size and date, only by doing a CRC check could you detect anything (these days we have virus scanners of course).

I would say that unless you rely on the total incompetence of Microsoft to get it spreaded then assembly is a must for doing viruses...and assembly programmers aren't really few in this world. In fact I had the impression they were all over the place :-)

Lastly I want to mention that in other operating systems than Windows there are no viruses, because the designers of those systems weren't so beyond belief incompetent in their system design. So for a virus to attack a Unix system it has to attack at boot time (when forgetting to take out the disk before booting).

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Post by: Joey on 2001-07-12 14:47:00
Anyway, they are still viruses.
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Post by: mirex on 2001-07-12 20:38:00
I see future of viruses in mix of highlevel language + asm, because it is hard to maake viri spreading throught email and stuff in assembler, and it is hard to code good virus in high level language.
But as i heard, now W2000 has many things denied, int's, ports and so.
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Post by: ficedula on 2001-07-12 21:31:00
You don't need to write viruses to take out Unix systems ... you just let the system blow itself up.

Unix (ESPECIALLY Linux) does everything to extremes. When it works, it's *very* reliable and *very* stable. When it doesn't it refuses to recognise the fact you've got a computer ("PC not found"). There's nothing in between. Hence why Windows is still used by major organisations and businesses (not exclusively, mind, but even still).

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Post by: dagsverre on 2001-07-12 22:35:00
I can kind of agree to that...

With Windows and Plug&Pray, it's just to reinstall Windows and the programs over and over again, and perhaps try different drivers, until things works. This also means that a Windows system can run without being 100% in order.

What I don't like about it is the unnerving thing that I never know if the system is fine or not. In Linux there is always a reason. So, if you know enough about the system, it's just a matter of changing some text files and things are in order.

Not implying that I know linux that well myself. I've just never gone through that repeated reinstall cycle, but rather searched desperate for non-existant hints on what I'm doing wrong...I guess the difference is that in Windows, the system might be doing something wrong, while in Linux you are likely doing something wrong. It's theoretically easier to correct yourself than the system, but it's even easier not to correct anything I guess.

Computers today are way too complicated anyway. They should have been consumer products, not some hacker tool. Why aren't text editors and web browsers as easy as gaming consoles? Why did the shitty i386 architecture get so widespread? We should all go and get ourselves some macs...

Of course, for us programmers this is all a great bonus as we get the incredible flexibility with it...

Joey: They are still viruses, but they are targetting the PC rather than Unix, so Unix has nothing to do with it. You can really call them BIOS viruses instead (though some of them does install themself in the hard disk boot sector and only uses the BIOS to perform the installation).

Idea for a cool virus: An email virus that patches Outlook on the end user system. The virus would have total control over the computers out- and ingoing email, and can replicate very easily with small chances of getting caught...luckily ILOVEYOU shut down the binary attachment door most places so it can't get around that easily anymore...if ILOVEYOU was coded smarter we would never have got rid of it...

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Post by: Caddberry on 2001-07-13 10:11:00
Dagsverre.. When u think about it who the hell would wanna write a virus and try to spread it through a linux Unix system or hell any other system for that matter.. Windows is most popular . basically cuz it has to be.. Why waste your time (unless your pissed at some poor unsuspecting bastard) to write a virus that wouldnt really spread like the ILOVEYOU and Melissa Viruses..? I sure as hell wouldnt
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Post by: dagsverre on 2001-07-13 13:44:00
Greatly simplified:

It is impossible to write a virus for Linux because programs don't have write access to most areas. Meaning, if you start a program named ff7.exe (it isn't exe in linux but for the sake of the discussion) then ff7.exe isn't allowed to write to any program files. In fact, it is not allowed to write to anything in the entire machine except for the user directory ("My Documents"), which it has to write to to save your documents.

So, say that a virus is run in Linux, it has no way to spread itself because it can't write itself to disk, and it is gone when you reboot the system. No matter how good you are in coding doesn't change the fact that it is impossible to create a virus for linux (that is, assuming linux systems are bug-free and correctly set up...they usually aren't but that doesn't help the viruses as all the systems have the errors in different places).

Oh, and I don't mind people not bothering to try...in fact I'd be perfectly happy with linux even if I was the only one in the world using it, because it's so nice to use for programming etc. I guess you have to be a programmer to really appriciate the system.

[This message has been edited by dagsverre (edited July 13, 2001).]

Title: FFX MUSIC DOWNLOAD!!!
Post by: sHELL on 2001-07-20 00:10:00
/me looks at post one

talk about offtopic...

Title: FFX MUSIC DOWNLOAD!!!
Post by: ficedula on 2001-07-20 02:10:00
It's kind of tradition on this board, isn't it...

actually, on *most* message boards. This isn't as bad as some...  :wink:

Title: FFX MUSIC DOWNLOAD!!!
Post by: Sir Canealot on 2001-07-20 02:27:00
Haha. This isnt as bad as Eidos.
I remember the six "Age? Not relivent I guess..." topics that we spamed up. Ah. Good days.
Title: FFX MUSIC DOWNLOAD!!!
Post by: Caddberry on 2001-07-20 10:32:00
Dag .. Spreading would really be out of the question anyway.. because Microsoft is the VAST majority .. to such the extent anyway that no one has any reason to thrash a linux system..

Spreading would be unheard of anyway because .. well.. no one uses linux.. viruses can still devistate linux they just dont spread as easily or at all.. but if linux was the VAST majority that microsoft is .. i bet hella more people would certainly be trying.. i just think they really dont care at this point..

I am not bashing linux.. In fact if things werent the way they are i would happily use it.. but i am a gamer.. and it is alot easier to just install the game.. tweak a few things.. that not have the thing run at all.. Windows sucks! i hate it.. but.. XP is supposed to take care of everything.. We'll see.. I have had linux installed and used it a bit.. but i just felt more comfortable in windows.. therefore i dont know very much about linux .. so  :) i could be wrong about the viruses being able to spread or whatever..   :)

Title: FFX MUSIC DOWNLOAD!!!
Post by: Joey on 2001-07-20 12:17:00
How bout the virus disabling that feature?
Title: FFX MUSIC DOWNLOAD!!!
Post by: The SaiNt on 2001-07-20 18:46:00
 
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Originally posted by dagsverre
It is impossible to write a virus for Linux because programs don't have write access to most areas. Meaning, if you start a program named ff7.exe (it isn't exe in linux but for the sake of the discussion) then ff7.exe isn't allowed to write to any program files. In fact, it is not allowed to write to anything in the entire machine except for the user directory ("My Documents"), which it has to write to to save your documents.

So, say that a virus is run in Linux, it has no way to spread itself because it can't write itself to disk, and it is gone when you reboot the system. No matter how good you are in coding doesn't change the fact that it is impossible to create a virus for linux (that is, assuming linux systems are bug-free and correctly set up...they usually aren't but that doesn't help the viruses as all the systems have the errors in different places).

I don't think the same thing applies for memory(RAM). I'm pretty sure there's a way or two to intercept memory calls. Modifying memory can have adverse effects, if you get what I mean.

Oh, and Joey, if dag's idea does in fact work 100%, you won't be able to disable the feature since you don't have access to anything at all, except memory.

[This message has been edited by The SaiNt (edited July 20, 2001).]

Title: FFX MUSIC DOWNLOAD!!!
Post by: Joey on 2001-07-26 14:30:00
Do you know that despite those claims, Linux can still blow up.