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The remake is in dire need of more "Story Designers".
Anyone interested is encouraged to contact me or Seph3D.
Honestly speaking, you English doesn't have to be "perfect", as long as most people can understand what you're trying to say, it's fine.
Mainly, we need people to help out with designing and developing the story. (The story is way too huge to work on with a small number of staff)
You'll also need to write a short document on your perception of FFVII. When I say "perception", I mean something that wasn't included in the original story. It can be something suggested or something you completely thought up yourself (Has to make sense though).
Oh, and before I forget, you'll also have to ensure that you have "sufficient" free time for the project. It would be pointless to go through all your work and authorize you to only find that you don't have time to do anything at all :)
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Oooh...oh man...I'm going to check if I have the spare time for this...
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SaiNt: You're not gettin' much feedback on this, do you?
- Alhexx
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Well...I am getting some replies by mail.
Although I must say that I can't expect much unless I make a post like this in some fanfic forum or something :)
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Hey, that might be a quite good idea!
- Alhexx
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Would story people need to have FF7pc? If not, I know quite a few people who may be interested, and of sufficient calibur that I could send your way
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Like I said, it's all about the story, so they wont be needing FFVIIPC. In fact they don't even need a copy of FFVII if they know the game well enough. I know of people that rent the game but know the game inside out.
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Thought so. I'll start sending some people this way.
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...however, if someone doesn't have a copy of FF7PC they won't be able to run the Remake, which limits the amount of development they can do. They can still write the story, and go on to make dialogue scripts, so it doesn't *matter* as such - but while we don't need you to have FF7PC, it's a help.
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Ok guys, I'd take off some Beta testing time, and I think I could do it. What would you need? A sample of my writing?
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Could people just contribute small suggestions and not write a whole essay?
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Yes, they may.
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Cool, then I'll have some suggestions to send in sometime ^___^
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I wanted to continue/add to Final Fantasy 7's story since the day I completed it for the first time... like 5 years ago. I've got some excellent ideas, and if you don't mind, I'd like to help.
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I doubt I can be much help as a programmer.... yet. In a few years maybe :D
Where do people send their suggestions? Is there a forum or do we email? Wait. Am I gonna sound an idiot by asking is there a forum? I mean, is there a forum dedicated to small suggestions?
-Dan
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*cough*
Anyone interested is encouraged to contact me or Seph3D.
*cough*
:roll:
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Yes, I got your PM SI... I just haven't had too much time to go over it. School's a bitch, and NWN is just too damn addictive...
Sephiroth 3D
"I don't understand..." "You don't have to understand." - Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within
Sephiroth 3D.com (http://www.sephiroth3d.com)
[email protected]
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I was just replying to all the people who were asking how to apply, Seph....
:weep:
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saint, i sent you something about 6 months ago. look at that again :)
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hey Darkness, go on AIM and cntact me - Handle is Ultima2876
thanx
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Well, I know the whole story of FF7, and I have posted my ideas about some FF7 events and characters, especially Vincent Valentine. I would like to help, but I'm still not sure about my schedule (actually, I'm lazy). But I may just get off my butt, and do something good for a change. I'll contact you sometime.
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and NWN is just too damn addictive...
Here, here!
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guys
the term story righter may as well be redefined to script writer,
in terms of shelling out a story,
then turning it into a character script
ie:
cloud: blah blah blah
shinra: etc etc etc
u know
means u have to be commited, and follow it thru all the way.
you know what i mean?
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Mmm, I'm good in script writing.
Qhimm: I'm afraid we have to ban you vvalentine.
Vvalentine: WHAT?!?!? *with a surprised and sad look* But, but, why?!?!
Qhimm: *turning his back to vv* You haven't been posting here lately, and I know you are posting in other forums as well.
Vvalentine: *with a confused look* Is that a reason to ban me?
Qhimm: Yeah.
Vvalentine: *with a grin of fear in his face* I don't see that as a reason to be banned. That's just ridiculous!!!! *frowns his eyebrows*
Qhimm: Well, I said so, kthxbye. *clicks on ban button*
Vvalentine: NOOOOOOOOOOOoooooohh. *vvalentine now sits in front of his computer, watching the screen and reading the ban message over and over*
Nah, Qhimm is not evil (or is he? O_o). That's just an example of some script writing that I can do. Of course, I can do much much better. This just barely took me a minute to do it, and it all came as I typed it.
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Whoa, that's a story ... :weep:
- Alhexx
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I'll be glad to help out with the story if you need me, but I cant be bothered to write this "perception" thing or whatever it is you want me to do. I dont really mind either way but if you want my help, you can have it. I'm not really up for writeing to much though due to limited time alevels are taking up. I'll bet I can give writers many helpfull suggestions and insights on writeing for the remake though.
But as I said *shrugs* I dont mind.
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Writing ye say? This, I can do. I have some time off from the Vengeance project (PS:T mod), and can write/script with no problem if need be. Plus, I think it would give me something useful to do with my time.
As for my perception, there are a couple of things that I think were massively underdeveloped in the game. The Turks could have more of a focus on their backgrounds, which I always felt was underdeveloped. Another thing that wasn't really addressed was the fact that Seph was more of a tortured soul driven mad than a monolithic evil. Focusing more on this aspect would be a nice touch. Other than that, Vincent could use a helluva lot more to say. :wink:
Anyway, I'd be more than glad to help if possible.
-Cil
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Feel free to contact me if you're interested.
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forgive me if i made a mistake...
i kinda understand that there's a policy here about old/dead threads being
dug up again...anyway...
i haven't been here long but i've read about this remake as far as a few months back. I jus wanted to inquire about a few things.
Is there any specific time in which u guys want this "side story" to take place...i read that this wouldn't exactly be a sequel but more like an extra story...i'm guessing here but i think u'd place the new story somewhere within the FF7 story itself. :)
If u guys permit me a small suggestion which i'm sure someone already suggested before me....go with the FF7 fanfic writers i know most of the fanfics released are after the actual FF7 story but they're good stories translating to good writers nonetheless.
I'd be happy to contribute if u'd let me...new character designs anyway say, new antagonists, that would bar the way from certain points of the story for the Avalanche crew (hopefully Aerith included)....like an episode per se lol. Thanks.
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First things first, this is a sticky topic so it's alright to post here as long as it serves its purpose.
Fanfic writers tend to base their story on what happens in the future, out main emphasis for the remake is what happened before and during the original game outside of "Cloud's" perspective.
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ah, so it's like a prequel of sorts...something like what they were doing before the game itself.
errmmh...i haven't played FF7 for the longest time (try 4 years) and do correct me if i'm wrong, but, most of the characters aren't exactly doing anything at that time :( ....but hey that's the nice thing about creativity/free reign...u could certainly make them do something. :)
Barret : no problem he has a lot of back story to cover, all the way to his old mining town whatsisname.
Tifa : has had close ties with Avalanche in general...so pre-adventure/ acts of terrorism/ roughousing couldn't be far off..even before Cloud joined in.
Although as an alternative u could probably tap on young Tifa and one of her adventures while training with her martial arts teacher. (again, i'm basing this on what little knowledge i hav left after a 4 year hiatus from the game...and countless other RPG gamings later so my memory could b sketchy at best)
Aerith : life as flowergirl...hmm...all i can think off at the moment -_-
Red XIII : maybe something on the events that lead to his capture?
Yuffie : Ninja Clan. Attitude. Kleptomaniac. with her kind of lease on life she most likely would get into all sorts of fn situations not to mention stupid ones :z
Cait Sith : can't think of anything on this one...unless u'd prefer a story about the person who controls the oversized moogle and weird looking Cat.
Cid : life as one of the best aviation pilots ever to grace the whole of the FF7 planet...lotsa possibilities.
Vincent: life as a Turk...man Vincents past has been tapped on so many times by fanfic writers that it would b impossible not to get any beef on him.
but i'm sure u guys hav thought of every single one of these before...in a way, it's like a refresher course for me..trying to remember this an that heh.
although, personal opinion, i think a "sidestory" instead of a "back story" would be a better way to go...for one, it's simply tapping into a readily built aspect of the FF7 continuity, their attitudes, outlook, and whatnot are established as opposed to making a story before they actually joined the crew. And they're all there :wink:
It'll be more like an episode...a lost episode that never made it to the actual story per se. Where the cast were momentarily deviated from their tracks to deal with an "unknown terror"...lol.
as u can see i've obviously put a bit of thought into this one...with lack of better things to do...anyway....it was fun. :) Thanks for listening .
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sorry mate
hate to burst the bubble
but the story is in the region of starting of midgar, wutai war, jenova catastrophy, time of the calm, and of course the hunt for the surviving ancients
all of which stand in the time before or in the infancy of the current FF7 crew.
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I can contribute. I'd love to be a part of this, and my coding skills are... well.. to put it frankly.. nonexistant.. this is the kind of thing I'm looking into for a future, so I'm here for ya all... If someone wants to get a hold of me... *looks at butons under his reply* Take your pick! I don't know how much I'll have time to/be able to do... But I'll definately give this a try. *thumbs up* Example.
Reeve: Mr. Shinra, The amount of land dying around the city of Midgar is growing exponentially. If we don't cut back on reactor usage, the entire continent may become a barren wasteland in as few as 50 years!
Shinra: Ah.. But was it not by YOUR design that Midgar has 8 Reactors? You had everything you planned.
Reeve: This is not what I planned! First off, we had no idea that the reactors would do this to The Planet! Look out that office window! The planet is dying, Sir. And if we don't cut back on reactor usage... We're ensuing our own demise. And about that plan of mine you say you gave me... I hadn't planned for people to be living in slums under the plate!
Shinra: They chose to live there, by not paying for our housing. [SHINRA walks across the room and looks out the window] You will do as I say and double the capacity on our reactors. REEVE shakes as if ready to strike him, but hangs his head, and slumps dejectedly]
Reeve: Yes... Sir...
[REEVE Leaves, as he leaves, PALMER enters.]
Palmer: You called me, Sir?
Shinra: Yes, I simply wished to inform you that we are cutting funding to the Space Program by 50%, adjust your budget accordingly.
~fin~
Heh. That was just a sample of mah SKILLZ. Feel free to use it if you wish, though.
~Contra~
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To be honest, the remake is moving at a rate slower than a snails pace.
It's mainly because most of the members either have lost interest of just don't have the time to commit to the project. (This might not apply to everyone, because I can't speak for all members of the project)
Well, any "fresh" breed with the time and abilities to commit to the project are certainly welcome. Feel free to contact me via e-mail or icq. (All my details are in my profile)
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yeah... where IS that one seph3d kid anyway? ^^
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I can help making the FF7 remake. Well not by coding, but i can write the script. Here's an example:
Stasis : Your mission is to secure the Guardian, because if it falls in the hands of Mastery Operations the world is in a serious risk. Am I clear?
Fallen Guardian and XF4: Yes sir! We shall save the world!
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"He walked through the now silent fields like a ghost... A ghost of one of the warriors that was slain here today. Laying his Masamune on the inside of his arm, Sephiroth looked around in silence. How many were killed here? it wasn't easy to estimate the damage... But they won, though. Wasn't that good enough? He smiled to himself. Hell no, ofcourse it wasn't good enough. He was born for the kill, the heat of the moment, the clashing of iron and flesh... But he had never expected that the thing he would fear most would come at the moment he saw there was no defeat in the eyes of his opponent. He did not beat him, Sephiroth understood. He had set the man free from an unstoppable future in which his once proud future would be ruled by a conglomerate known as Shinra Inc...
Sephiroth didn't enjoy working for them. He didn't enjoy the fact they had won this battle, and would probably beat Godo himself on the verges of Wutai early tomorrow...
What mattered at the moment was simple understanding of the fact why this victory was so shallow, while it was their biggest one up to date...
He stared through the broken fields, counting a few hundred dead bodies, broken equipment, some of Shinra's heavier machinery... It wasn't even worth looking at anymore.
Sephiroth put his Masamune on the ground and stared up at the stars... Yes, he knew it now. He would make sure that the agony of defeat would be in each of his enemy's eyes before he would wipe them out... Because if he didn't even receive that, what would he have left to fight for? And fighting was living, ofcourse..."
He thought back at that moment for just a second. Was that why he couldn't destroy the girl after she grabbed his weapon and tried to revnge the destruction of her village? It didn't matter anymore, now. The village was cursed, this reactor is cursed, he is cursed! And Hojo... Hojo...
Sephiroth walked out of the Jenova Chamber, his mind blurred with millions of thoughts... Pain, suffering, loneliness... They were all gone, gone into the bigger picture. After all, there was more to life after all... Finally, things seemed to look upward for him. He had taken the ehad of his mother with him. After all, why drag the entire body with you, while it is known that every cell of Jenova will get back together eventually? Isn't that what the entire Reunion Theory is about? Gast pointed that out quite nicely... If only he would've lived longer...
"Sephiroth!"
He looked over his soldier. It was the little sickly rookie soldier. His spikey blonde hair didn't cover his tear-filled eyes... Sephiroth smiled... This person in front of him... At least he managed to trigger the fire in this boy... And then the Masamune hits...
- What happened after this everybody knows. I hope I've proven myself a bit by now. This was unprepared writing, i can do a lot better than this if given the chance. ;-) -
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Clouds Journey to Midgar
After making the promise to Tifa that night on the well Tifa went home and Cloud just stayed on top of the well thinking about how he has is going to get into solder and how is going to become like his hero Sephiroth, then after an hour of dullding over these thoughts he got off the well and went home to go to bed because in the morning he will be setting off to Midgar to try to join solder when he got to his room and layed down onto his bed and fell straight to sleep. He had a dream that night that him and Sephiroth were standing next to each over fighting a huge dragon as he was now solder first class they were making mince meat out of the dragon when he got rudely awaken by his mother telling him it was time for breakfirst so he got up got dressed and went down stairs and sat the table to have his bakon and eggs his mum told him she was really going to miss him but not to worry about me because I will be fine,
He said to his mum he would miss here to and he will try not to worry about her. Then after breakfirst she told to go up into the loft because there was something she wanted to give to him before he went and she said it should help you a great deal if you want to join solder, so Cloud said ok I will go and get it so he made his way to the loft wundering what it could be when he finaly climbed the last stair into the loft, he has never been into the loft because his mum always said you were not allowed up there so he has always been courouis of what was up there when he opened the door to the loft he enterd what appeared to be an open room until he glansed what looked like a chest in the middle of the room so he went other to it and opened the chest to look inside and he found a sword he pulled it out of its scaperd its was quite a short sword looks like a standard he put back into the scaperd and went back down stairs very impressed of the sword. He asked his mum where she got it from and he was very shocked from the answer she turned round to look at him with tear bearing eyes and said it was your Father’s he told me to give to you when you were old enough to use it I didn’t want to give it to you until you said you wanted to join solder that was the last time I ever saw your father I had a letter 2 weeks later saying he was killed in a battle near North Coral over one of the reactors there so that’s why I never let you up into the loft until now. At this point she burst out crying Cloud run over to his mother and hugged her and said thank you for telling me this I will use this sword in pride for farther and for you so don’t worry mother I will make it to be in solder and become like my hero Sephiroth and these words he stoped huggin his mother and goodbye mother and picked up his things and his new sword and went towards the door and his mum called out after him goodbye and good luck hopethly I will see you soon and he opened the door and walked out straight towards the town exit hopethly not to be stoped by anyone espersuly Tifa else because he hates good byes. He walked out of the gates of Niblehem he walked for about 2 minutes then turned round and said at the top of his lungs goodbye Niblehem and then without anther look back he turned around and started to run and his fasted speed towards the river and then onwards to North Coral because he knows that way leads to the mountain path to Costa Del Sol and the boat to the main land where Midgar is.
To be continued……………..
I hope you like it is my first time trying to write a story or script but I hope you like
I would love to help and I have quite a lot of free time.
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Sorry if this sounds rude, but...
Iceydamo, what the hell was that? Work on your writing.
Another fan-fic, which I despise.
And if you say "I bet you can't write something better than that" I will have to respond with the fact that I can.
But sinister heaven wrote something nice up there. Good job.
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Now that Rubicant mentioned it, I have to admit that Iceydamo's story has a lot of grammatical/spelling errors too.
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that seriously was not good at all it has nothing to do with the story good god someone get me some bakon and eggs for breakfirst and tell your mum that I love here
its ben my lifelong dream to join solder because ive always wanted to be strong like sephiroth because hes my hero. i was always courouis of how spherephieroth got so strong so i decided to leave town
i espersuly like the masamune if i could hav one i would takeit
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I think the problem was that the story was six sentences long. Within those six sentences, there were few commas and no quotation marks. And, besides that, the story had nothing at all to do with the proposed remake. So, I shall offer you one suggestion for the story:
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They're periods. Use them.
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Words of truth, Floyd. I guess in some sense we do need education. Makes you wonder, if anyone is out there to teach our young ones about the fundamentals of the punctuational arts.
Sorry, I don't know many Pink Floyd songs..
If you can't make a sentence, you can't function in life. How can you possibly function in life if you can't make a sentence?!
Sorry, I'm done.
All in all it's just another post to my count
Done.
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Heh... At least you know some Floyd...
At any rate, I'm sure I could write up a storm, but I'll be going off to college soon. That should give me plenty of free time, but I doubt I would be able to commit that free time to any single project, especially one that doesn't look like it will reach completion anytime soon. I worked on an FFVII mod briefly over at wc3campaigns.com that tanked fairly quickly. Hmm... I should stop; I'm probably discouraging people.
'Sides, right now, I have that nice little topic on my 3DS Max woes, and I'll probably end up re-texturing Cloud and his weapons at least for Morrowind... But, if anyone wants me to write some short scenes and requests an example of my non-FFVII-related essays, I'd be happy to provide them.
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Rubicant you have no tact.. and i love that about you.. you give an honest opinion even if it is brutally honest.. i think thats a really good quality to have.. I wish more people would just be honest with others in this world.. there would be so much less confusion running rampant throughout the scenery..
Pink Floyd is awesome.. Listen to Dark Side of the Moon its some hardcore chillin music, and its great..
I rarely use puncuation, although i am usually for the most part decent with grammar.. I can write decently if i wish..
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I've got ff7PC, and I play it quite a bit... I wouldn't mind helping out if I could.
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guys seriously this is what it involves:
Spending countless hours writing your own sections of the story
Going into minute details about the sound, music, effects positioning of items etc
Online collabaration with fellow FFR team members by msn,irc, and PMs
Be able to pick yourself up and push yourself to do things that should have been done by something else
Motivate those active team members and have daily/weekly meetings
Work without needing instructions, all you will get is a brief on the story line for your segment.
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Hope thats some of the stuff you will be getting into.[/i]
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Telling someone to write anything and give it to you is a difficult assignment.. Give everyone something to write.. Give everyone a brief story line to write on, and see how that goes. let them work their own imaginations.. just give something to everyone so comparing will be hella easier..
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Heh. Even a year on my offer is still open if you want any help with anything FFVII content related... writing to.... I guess. Its not even like it'd be to much writing. More quality than quantity by far...
I'm even planing one of these days STILL to start my "FFVII project GAMMA: Play though game and write down everything that dosent make sense, then post it on Qhimms" in an effort to expand my FFVII knolledge. I started the Usa Psx version a while ago, but it sucks. Worth graphics and the script is awfull compared to the revised Pc version. Oh well, comming soon a forum near you: All my current problems with FFVII PC the next time I try to install it...
Edit: Actually it almost IS one year on since I posted the post I made on page 1... how time flys.
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Caddberry :
Skillster Wrote: Work without needing instructions, all you will get is a brief on the story line for your segment.
Thats the outline you will get, we obviously need to collect the story line info into one document for ppl to evaulate
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I could write a story--->But i'd need more time. :z
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I'll do the best story ever. Its a fact.
If you want to argue against my fact:
*Morpheous Voice*: "What is fact?"
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I gave TheSaint a sample of my work...and I don't think he's managed to buy the time to get around to reading it. Hell, it is a 12 page story about martha stewart being a hitler reincarnate trying to take over the world....probably not exactly everyone's cup of tea. Figuratively speaking, that is.
Only problem is that if I ended up writing for the remake the whole thing would end up being a comedy act. Unless I shape up :lol:
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I know we can't take a lot of what Sephiroth said for gospel (the game's Sephy, not our moderator), but I've always been intrigued with his statements about the Cetra being an "itinerant race," of the species moving from planet to planet. For clarity, a dictionary definition (American Heritage):
i·tin·er·ant adj. 1. Traveling from place to place, especially to perform work or a duty: an itinerant judge; itinerant labor. --i·tin·er·ant n. One who travels from place to place. [Late Latin itiner³ns, itinerant-, present participle of itiner³rº, to travel, from Latin iter, itiner-, journey. See ei- below.]
If your story will be including the hunt for the last surviving Ancients, presumably including the role of the Turks and Professor Gast (who would have probably been in charge of the project during pretty much the period you described), then this is wide open for you to develop. I don't think even the original writers did more than vaguely speculate on this matter, and if it's up your alley, I'd like to see somebody's thoughts on it. Sadly, my thoughts are quite muddled...
But you know, I do get the impression that the Cetra used materia, even if not much nor often. The Black Materia was actually sealed away by them, but I don't think it was Jenova's... I think it was their own, a last-ditch defense. The Cetra weren't dumb, and in fact defeated Jenova and sealed her away as well, as I recall, so there's a lot of force and power there, as well as symbiosis.
However, I remember hearing Bugenhagen say that the lead characters shouldn't use materia at all, because using them hastened the death of the planet. They'd use it sparingly, I suppose. Goodness knows they had powers of their own, else the materia in the game wouldn't have done anything.
Oh, yes. I'm, uh, not a "story" person, much as I'd like to be. I'm a concept person who waits desperately and forever for stories to come along, and then fails to do anything with them when blessed inspiration finally strikes.
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I know we can't take a lot of what Sephiroth said for gospel (the game's Sephy, not our moderator)
You can't be talking about me, right?
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Easiest way for you to find out would be to look at the moderator lists (http://forums.qhimm.com/).
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Seems a long time ago since Seph3D last posted.
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*chuckles* I was saying something vaguely insulting about Sephiroth, so I thought I'd put a disclaimer saying that I meant no offense to you, dude. :)
But yeah, uh... Cetra.
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Oh my. I just realized that Bugenhagen would probably have been a technician for Shinra at the time you're writing in. If you need proof, ask around in the airship about the time Bugenhagen is riding with you to the Temple of the Ancients. I think it's the guy working between the Operations room and the chocobo pen. You know, the guy who offers to chew the fat? I'm pretty sure it's him; barring that, it may be somebody in Cosmo Canyon itself who mentions it.
Anyway, point being that Bugenhagen used to work for Shinra, probably back when they were still weapons manufacturers as opposed to a domineering power and fuel concern. Considering the fact that he started Avalanche, according to Barret anyway, this could be vastly more important a plot point than anything about the itinerant nature of the Cetra... That's a side matter, this could be pivotal to the story.
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I can never tell whether I simply persue a topic more than anybody else wants to, or if I've genuinely killed it.
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lol
interesting point you made there about bugenhagen, something i think was easily overlooked :roll:
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It's really rather amazing how much back story there is in that game.
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thats what allows for a complete game to be made from the fragements of events that take place before FF7
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Aye... Still, it says impressively much for the writers, that they considered it enough of a work of art and inspiration to actually *write* it.
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Wow! The topic died!
And it's a sticky!
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Actually i think the project died.. Or it is atleast on major hold or some such.. People got busy i suppose..
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Brought up a couple of points, but I'm just not as much a story person. Ideas, perhaps, and stories from those occasionally, but I don't think they're looking for co-authors, I think they're looking for writers.
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Well im allways on the look out for people to help me write the story line and script for the remake.
since no other members of the project have time anymore.
If your interested please email me on
[email protected]
thanks
you should be able to work on a specific event in the history of ff7 (which i will designate for you) and research into it, then write up a brief story on it. then on approval we will move to make a detailed story, then followed closley by the script.
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Oohh...
Be on the lookout for an E-mail from [email protected] , because this is the kind of thing i definatly would like to help with!
I've already done a rather in depth summary into the entirity of the ff7 timeline (http://www.icybrian.com/fanficresource/ff7steeleinfo.php) SO i can help out in whatever areas you need me to =)
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I don't see the poing making a story biased on FFVII. Was the game not good enough?
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This translation of Iceydamo's for people that want an easier and more understandable text. Hope this help clears up any confusion!
The clouds travel to Midgar, after they formed the promise to Tifa, which the night in Tifa house and the cloud wohlen were, as soon as remained after the well, which thinks on, like it it will in the weld and of, how like its Sephiroth hero will become, later reaches after one hour of Dullding on this thoughts has, which it received from the well and which it went accommodating in order to the bed to leave, because in the morning he regulates blunt to Midgar, in order to try assembling the weld when it reached to its place of assembly and fell to the right down on its bed layed and, in order to sleep. It was sleepy that the night, which it and Sephiroth near everyone the abundance was stopped, which fought an enormous Dragon, because it was now first category of the weld, which stung the meat outside of the Dragon, when he reached rudely, by its nut/mother, that rose mentioned hour to it for roofridge exterior thus to it received dress and was under the stairs and which set table, in order its bakon to have and the eggs said its momia to it that it really went lacking it but, not to worry itself around me because I am fine, it said to its momia wakes up, which it to lack here would worry itself and it tried not over it. Then, after roofridge, which said it to above register for the attic because there were something her, it to give would like, before it and it were, said must it much help, if you liked to assemble the weld, therefore mentioned authorization of the cloud goes I reaching them therefore he formed its more maner it never is in attic been, because its momia said that they did not permit after there to it, thus it always courouis been is, of which it for above mentioned there was, when it to door in attic it enterd opened, which opened appeared fourth, until he found glansed, which it seemed a box in the center of the quarter, went thus it another to it and always opened the box, to seem over internal and it a blade, which removed it from their for its scaperd, that, seins to short-circuit of a blade a standard seem absolute should he again within scaperd sat down and after under the stairs was, which were formed very an impression of the blade. He asked over over its momia of, which he reached her it and much it the answer it gave it to an electrical impact that she gave around return to the volatile view in him with the eyes of the camp of rasgón and him to him was said, whom its father said I, to use to it, when you, were rather old it I to give not desires darlelo, until you said that you would like to assemble the weld, which was the last mark, I always saw that its father a letter had 2 weeks of more Saying killed there it in a battle near the Chorale of the north on one of the Reactors advanced, thus porqué never left him to I for mentioned above in attic until this moment. To this point it exploded outside of gritador the enterprise of the cloud increases to its nut/mother and it covered and this thanks, in order to say this to me that I in such a way use this blade in pride for far and in you ma I let it be in the weld and become like my Sephiroth hero and these words the fact that they took huggin its nut/mother stoped and good-bye to nut/mother and those were its things and their new blade and those toward to the door and its momia did not say loud, after he sees I him good-bye and the good luck hopethly soon and the door opened it and went outside toward too straight toward for the exit of the city hopethly stoped the Tifa good by any person espersuly, because he hates byes. It went from the doors from Niblehem, which it went up to the close 2 minutes, which later all around backget were given and then Niblehem means watched out good-bye and outside of the Anthere after it it return around gave in the cover of its lungs and it forwards work and its speed began ayunada toward to the river and then to the Chorale of the north, because it white that the way leads to the flight path of the mountain to the coast of the sun and the main boat to the mass, in which it Midgar is.
Continuous hope from I. To be that you taste of it is my first time has tries a history or a letter to write however I to hope that you pleasures to have. It might help and I has absolutely many of free time.
I hope that is easier to understand!
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You could have also done this back about a year ago... ok what 11 months ago.. when people were actually interested in the remake project, and were avidly hunting for story people..
I doubt Iceydamo even comes here any more..
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Im still interested....Only problem is i cant do shit with an editor >_<
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Ya know.. you never know shit about Cloud's parents. All you know is that Cloud is the new kid when he moves to Tifa's town.
Try to think of a story about his dad. You never see his dad ever.
No one make a story about the Turks cause thats what the FF7 Before Crises game will be about.
I know pretty much everything about FF7, I bet I could come up with something good.
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Ok, so what does this project mean? Are you looking for an actual story based on FF7 or a complete remake with a whole new story? I'm just asking because I'm doing nothing and have half a summer to churn out some damn good writing. All I gotta do is play FF7 one more time to get the feel back and I'm in business. It shouldn't take me more than a week to play it over again and the writing can be done in about 15 days after that. :D
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I know pretty much everything about FF7, I bet I could come up with something good.
Forgive me if im wrong,but was cloud not a clone of sephiroth? Hence he would have no parents?
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I know pretty much everything about FF7, I bet I could come up with something good.
Forgive me if im wrong,but was cloud not a clone of sephiroth? Hence he would have no parents?
Mabye he is referring to the people that raised him?
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You've kind of missed the point of a part of the game if you think Cloud was a clone of Sephiroth. He wasn't (you know this from the Tifa & Cloud memory reconstruction sequence when they fall in the lifestream at Mideel). In this part of the game you find out he was born and raised in Nibelheim, by his parents, and did indeed leave to go to Midgar to try to get into SOLDIER, only he didn't make it and just became a regular Shinra soldier (the ones in the blue outfits). On one mission he returned to Nibelheim, as in the sequence at Kalm when he explains when he last saw Sephiroth, but this recollection of events wasn't correct. It was Zack who was in SOLDIER and supported Sephiroth. Cloud was one of the masked regular soldiers and couldn't show his face to Tifa because he was too ashamed, as he'd said he was leaving to be in SOLDIER and hadn't actually made it. When Sephiroth went crazy in the Nibelheim reactor, Zack and Tifa were pushed back and it was Cloud who picked up Zack's Buster Sword and attacked him; he was unsuccessful, but upon trying to attack him on the platform above the lifestream he was speared by Sephiroth's sword. Cloud then used his strength to push Sephiroth into the air via the sword in his body and flung him over the edge, then collapsed. (It could be that Sephiroth's body floated through the lifestream and became crystallised, and that what you see as Sephiroth in the first part of the game is actually just a projection, which would explain why he floats and can travel through walls etc.; you see his body crystallised in the air when Cloud is affected by the Jenova cells later on in the game, there's an FMV of this near where the Weapons are released).
On a sidenote, after the fire at Nibelheim, Shinra hired people to go and live there and pretend as if nothing happened which explains why, when you first visit Nibelheim, no-one knows about the fire or who Cloud & Tifa are (in fact, they do know about the fire, but obviously they've been hired to pretend not to know). On Disc 3 you can visit Nibelheim again, and some of the people will tell you how they were hired after the incident.
You also know from the Mansion library sequence on Disc 3 that after Cloud had finished off Sephiroth, Shinra soldiers came and took Cloud and Zack away (Tifa was saved by Zangan, her martial arts instructor, beforehand - see the note in Tifa's bedroom at Nibelheim). They were placed in Mako tubes in the Mansion basement and experimented on, presumably by Hojo, being injected with Jenova cells. They had no effect on Zack, but Cloud became extremely ill. They managed to escape and reached Midgar by hitching a lift on a truck, but Zack was shot when Shinra caught up with them, and Cloud, in his confused state, picked up Zack's sword and went to Midgar. The effect of the Mako and Jenova cells on his body confused his memories with Zack's, making him think he had actually got into SOLDIER and had been friends with Sephiroth and hence explain his memories and actions at the beginning of the game. Why didn't Tifa say anything? She said she was a little confused herself, but gradually during the game she realises that Cloud wasn't the member of SOLDIER she saw during that day, five years ago, at the Nibelheim incident (there are points throughout the game where she begins talking about it but then stops, can't think of any right now). She didn't want to admit it either, but during the Mideel lifestream incident she did, and they figured out together Cloud's memories and what really happened (see above).
The term 'clone' was used, but they weren't literally trying to clone Sephiroth. They were simply trying to produce soldiers (from exisiting soldiers) that had similar abilities to Sephiroth. Sephiroth on the other hand was born with Jenova cells in him, because Hojo injected the unborn embryo with Jenova cells.
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You're going to change the story? It's such a great story, why change it at all (except for the issues with copyrite)? Is it possible to just have some people peice out the storyline from the original? Just making a few quick suggestions.
Also, Cloud wasn't really a clone, he was a normal soldier until he threw Sepiroth into the lifestream at Nibelhiem. Then Hojo must've found him at the reactor afterwards, and taken him to experiment. This is all covered in the second disk when Cloud and Tifa fall into the lifestream. He had Jenova cells injected into him that changed everyone's memories to suit his new identity.
I'm a lazy teenager, Saint, but I don't have much free time. I might be able to send in a tid bit of story ideas every now and then, though.
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You're going to change the story?
I think they just want to "extend" what's already known by "filling-in" what we don't know. Correct? For example: Red XIII having kids.
I'm curious what The Skillster meant by, "for the remake (http://forums.qhimm.com/viewtopic.php?p=37224#37224)".
Hojo must've found him at the reactor afterwards
Yep, Cloud was wounded; probably unconscious. Zak too.
...if you think Cloud was a clone of Sephiroth. He wasn't...
I’m in complete agreement with you, but isn't it possible? Did anyone say "born in Nibelheim" when referring to Cloud? I only recall "growing up" in Nibelheim. Of course, the "clone" would need to age naturally, travel from Midgar to Nibelheim before ~8yrs old, have no psychologically damaging events in his live (during that time), then have the desire to go back to Midgar to prove himself. Highly, highly unlikely, but...
Now that I think of it... Septh-Clones all have Jenova Cells, so why would cloud (if he already had those cells, as a clone would have) want to leave Nibelheim when Jenova was already near by? --> Recall, when Cloud and Zak went to Midgar, Jenova had already been transferred there. :isee: Bla, bla... …water under the bridge. Anyway...
The term 'clone' was used, but they weren't literally trying to clone Sephiroth..
Ya, but at least one was a really good clone! Think that was a mistake? :o
Perhaps it’s better to say, they didn’t care if the clones ‘looked’ like the original Sephiroth, as their goal wasnt a "look-a-like".
Ya know.. you never know sh*t about Cloud's parents. All you know is that Cloud is the new kid when he moves to Tifa's town.
Well, we can ‘lean’ to a few conclusions based on Cloud’s back story. For example, cloud wasn’t at all popular. This hints at the idea that his parents/guardians weren’t as important then anybody else. More likely, since Cloud was “the new kidâ€, his parents were treated not any better (at least at first) then ordinary outsiders.
EDIT: Please tell me I didn't kill this topic :weep: .
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I don't know if this helps... but... in a cut-scene in the game (I only had this happen once never again....) you see Cloud and zack escape from the lab in the shinra mansion, they are then riding in the back of a truck, and just on the outskirts of Midgar (they are being chased by shinra also) cloud tries to pull zack a little farther, yet I believe Zack plops down and dyes... Zack and Cloud are the specimens that escaped and made the finder nail marks in those tanks (for anyone who didnt know :P)
edit: mod delete this before people post if i did wrong
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before mod's berating... dont revive old threads ^^
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Does that really include "Announcement" threads too?
Qhimm: Perhaps it's time to Un-Announce this thread? :-?
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Very true, this thread served its purpose long ago.