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Title: FF:CC - 1.5 seconds of footage, woo!
Post by: Aaron on 2002-08-27 02:37:08
Anyone seen this yet?  Good news for Gamecube loyalists :P

http://cube.ign.com/articles/367/367725p1.html

And here's a nifty video that has about a second and a half of FF:CC footage :P

http://o.insiderdownloads.ign.com/download/video/cube/finalfantasycrystalchronicles/ffgcnsmall.mov

(Doubt you'll be able to get that without an IGN Insider membership)
Title: FF:CC - 1.5 seconds of footage, woo!
Post by: Kendrilian on 2002-08-27 13:43:49
NOOO!  It does require a membership... *gurgle* I vill get you next time BATMAN!

Kendrilian
Title: FF:CC - 1.5 seconds of footage, woo!
Post by: Smurgen on 2002-08-27 14:28:09
Maybe someone could make a screenshot for us?
Title: FF:CC - 1.5 seconds of footage, woo!
Post by: M0T on 2002-08-27 21:11:42
Maybe a uk'er with a visa could buy me membership which I would then pay back and I'd upload it for everyone to see. (Ign won't accept my solo card :()
Title: FF:CC - 1.5 seconds of footage, woo!
Post by: Aaron on 2002-08-27 21:52:55
I'll upload it when I get home.

[Edit] Okey, this is the whole commercial (30 seconds, mpg) after I encoded it to be put on a VCD.  There is FF footage in here, in two or three places, and it's really short :P but take a look.  The FF footage starts at about 0:19 and goes on for a couple seconds, and there are other little "FF-snipets" at the beginning and end of the video.

http://www.vanguard.org/students/wpd2/kelleyaaron/!!stuff/ffgcn.mpg

[Edit II] Oops, that would be .mpg not .mov.  Heh.
Title: FF:CC - 1.5 seconds of footage, woo!
Post by: M0T on 2002-08-28 00:28:56
Thanks Aaron, although I still need to find a way to get insider :P I want to be up with the posting about my gamecubes :D
Title: FF:CC - 1.5 seconds of footage, woo!
Post by: Sir Canealot on 2002-09-20 14:15:04
Bah. Its on the Game Cube. Game Cube= Quake 2 graphics heh.

Guess I'll take a look... later.
Title: FF:CC - 1.5 seconds of footage, woo!
Post by: Alhexx on 2002-09-20 17:43:34
Hm ... GameCube ... Kaoru's got a GameCube ... hm ... that could be interesting for us (well, him and me)

Aaron: Thanx for the hosting !  8)

 - Alhexx
Title: FF:CC - 1.5 seconds of footage, woo!
Post by: sfx1999 on 2002-09-20 21:32:25
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Its on the Game Cube. Game Cube= Quake 2 graphics heh.

Guess I'll take a look... later.


You haven't played Turok: Evolution then!!!
Title: FF:CC - 1.5 seconds of footage, woo!
Post by: KojiroTakenashi on 2002-09-21 01:35:21
You obviously haven't played anything. Turok's one of the most graphically-unimpressive gameso n GCube.
...and...
BAHAHA! I don't know how, but it works just -fine- for me without a membership! Link me up, Scotty!
Proxomitron Naoko-4, I luv yoo ^-^ <3
Title: FF:CC - 1.5 seconds of footage, woo!
Post by: Aaron on 2002-09-21 06:30:16
I think the new Star Fox game (out in a couple weeks or something) looks pretty dang nice, as far as graphics go...

And, seems to me that Gamecube's graphics are a bit more impressive than PS2.
Title: FF:CC - 1.5 seconds of footage, woo!
Post by: Sephiroth 3D on 2002-09-21 07:56:52
The GC is, graphically, more powerful than the PS2, because it uses multiple GFX chips. The PS3 is going to use a similar method.
Title: FF:CC - 1.5 seconds of footage, woo!
Post by: Smurgen on 2002-09-21 11:50:09
And it uses ATI technology...so sexy
*Huggles Radieon 8500*
Title: FF:CC - 1.5 seconds of footage, woo!
Post by: Alhexx on 2002-09-21 12:18:06
PS3? Oh my god - they really should invent a new name ...

 - Alhexx
Title: FF:CC - 1.5 seconds of footage, woo!
Post by: J*** H******* on 2002-09-21 13:40:08
Message
Title: FF:CC - 1.5 seconds of footage, woo!
Post by: Smurgen on 2002-09-21 16:59:24
Well if ATI owns them now they are ATI so i'm still right :-p
Whatever
The console is a sexy one and that's all that matters
Title: FF:CC - 1.5 seconds of footage, woo!
Post by: KojiroTakenashi on 2002-09-21 17:55:36
I find it sad my old Geforce 2 Pro can run GTA3 better than the actual PS2 can.
Honestly, I think the GC has many design improvements over most of the consoles out there

- Loading time. Small little DVD's mean less physical seek times
- RAM. Belovéd, wonderful RAM!
- A decent processor, which actually has enough of the belovéd RAM to work its magic
- OOooh. Pretty Graphics Chips :D
- Finally, it's got some nice expansion abilities, nice little memcards, and the most comfortable controller to ever exist.
Title: FF:CC - 1.5 seconds of footage, woo!
Post by: Aaron on 2002-09-21 18:20:00
Yeah.  I have five games and not one of them ever says "Loading."  Well, SSB:M does but it stays only for less than two seconds.  Honestly it feels like console loading times!

And, well, my Gamecube came with a little sticker on the front that says "Graphics by ATI."  So, ATI claims to have done graphics for GCN, whether they did or not.  Works very well, although for computers I still prefer nVidia (go my Geforce4 TI 4600!).

Plus, the controller is pretty cool, although I don't understand why there's not a "Z trigger" button on both sides.  It doesn't make any sense.
Title: FF:CC - 1.5 seconds of footage, woo!
Post by: Kendrilian on 2002-09-23 00:07:17
It says "Saving" Aaron.  When you move from different menus it saves.

Kendrilian
Title: FF:CC - 1.5 seconds of footage, woo!
Post by: Sir Canealot on 2002-09-23 16:03:17
Quote from: KojiroTakenashi
I find it sad my old Geforce 2 Pro can run GTA3 better than the actual PS2 can.
Honestly, I think the GC has many design improvements over most of the consoles out there

- Loading time. Small little DVD's mean less physical seek times
- RAM. Belovéd, wonderful RAM!
- A decent processor, which actually has enough of the belovéd RAM to work its magic
- OOooh. Pretty Graphics Chips :D
- Finally, it's got some nice expansion abilities, nice little memcards, and the most comfortable controller to ever exist.


Small little DVDs mean games will cost more, and soon be on multiple disks.
The processor sucks. The graphics ESPECIALLY suck.
the expanstion abilities suck, the lack of a harddisk sucks.

And above all the controller SUCKS. I'd prfer to use my £10 usb gamepad to play game on a GC. Stupid button layout. Stupid D-Pad. Yeah I'll get used to it but I'd prefer to be playing an a X-Box controller or a Ps2 Duel Shock 2 any day of the week. Why. I heard on the GC Version of CvS2 they make you use the stick and not the D-Pad. "lolz"

Actually. Above all GC sucks. I'd never buy one of the things. I try to keep an open mind. But I just cant help hating the Game Cube. This must simply be becuase it sucks. I wont even comment on the games.

Imo Nintendo should screw the GC and concentrate on the GBA. The GBA is actually a pretty decent console (allthogh it suffers the same controll probelems as the GC). Sod the GC tiss a silly thing.
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Post by: M0T on 2002-09-23 19:46:04
Quote from: Sir Canealot


Small little DVDs mean games will cost more, and soon be on multiple disks.


Didn't seem to be a problem when we were all playing playstation games wit 4 discs, or PC games with 5. Resident Evil, a 2 disc game, is the same price as the other games and cheaper than many games on the PS2 and Xbox

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The processor sucks. The graphics ESPECIALLY suck.
the expanstion abilities suck, the lack of a harddisk sucks.


In what way does the processor suck? I mean, yeah in a pc it would suck but the system as a whole outperforms the PS2 easily and comes very close to the Xbox.

Did you look at resident evil or Star Fox or Rogue squadron? Those games have better graphics than Nearly all the games on the Xbox and every PS2 game. Are you sure you didn't see one on a 14" portable?
What is with the expansion abilities sucking, Its got more expansion ports than the PS2 and Xbox , in fact the Xbox doesnt have any Xpansion abilities at all.
What is with this hard disk Stuff, only the Xbox has a harddrive and its not like it uses it for anything profound, sure its nice to listen to music in game and have little loading in games like Halo but with the size of the GC's DVD's its not like it would be hard to reproduce that load time.

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And above all the controller SUCKS. I'd prfer to use my £10 usb gamepad to play game on a GC. Stupid button layout. Stupid D-Pad. Yeah I'll get used to it but I'd prefer to be playing an a X-Box controller or a Ps2 Duel Shock 2 any day of the week.


The button layout works suprisingly well, however I don't expect you to know because it is evident from you post that you haven't exactly played one much. And if you prefer to use your £10 USB pad, I'd like to see exactly what you got for you £10. Although saying that I prefer my Logitech Wingman Extreme to all of them. Especially to the cheap nasty peice of shite that is the PS2 dualshock 2 controller.

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 Why. I heard on the GC Version of CvS2 they make you use the stick and not the D-Pad. "lolz"


You heard wrong

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Actually. Above all GC sucks. I'd never buy one of the things. I try to keep an open mind. But I just cant help hating the Game Cube. This must simply be becuase it sucks. I wont even comment on the games.


Although you have your opinion I do feel that it is one that should be filedunder the heading 'Rampant Fanboy' and then never to be looked at again. From your actual post it is quite clear you have logged little or no playtime with a GC and therefore don't actually know what you are talking about. I therefore am drawn to the conclusion that you are a subscriber to www.teamxbox.com and you would become another on the list of worthy retard spammers that frequent the IGN boards.

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Imo Nintendo should screw the GC and concentrate on the GBA. The GBA is actually a pretty decent console (allthogh it suffers the same controll probelems as the GC). Sod the GC tiss a silly thing.


That statement is Dumb, first off, why would nintendo screw the GC, unlike Microsoft they are currently making money off it as shown by the fact that they were recently listed as japans No1 company which considers factors such as Worth, Growth and Profit.

You sir, are a silly fool who needs to learn that having an 'open mind' and being a rapid fanboy are two totally different things. It is hard to tell if you are A ps2 or an Xbox fanboy however from the fact that you complain about the lack of a harddrive you must be an Xbox fanboy, since you can't really consider the ps2 to have a harddrive in the sense that it doesn't have one to begin with, like the GC, and is only able to upgrade to one (view a very expensive upgrade), also like the GC.

Before you type another half baked dumb reply consider this, are you really hating the GC, or the fact that you don't have one and it is getting final fantasy?  Is it a case of rotten eggs?
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Post by: Sir Canealot on 2002-09-23 20:12:31
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Didn't seem to be a problem when we were all playing playstation games wit 4 discs, or PC games with 5. Resident Evil, a 2 disc game, is the same price as the other games and cheaper than many games on the PS2 and Xbox


Never the less disk swaping is a damn turn off. "Oh no I have to get up in 2 hours cause I'm near teh end of the disk". yayayayaya... no. Nintendo should have just stock to conventional DVDs... and not some ghey DVDs that only look cute (and that they do) but cant hold much information compared to normal DVDs.

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In what way does the processor suck? I mean, yeah in a pc it would suck but the system as a whole outperforms the PS2 easily and comes very close to the Xbox.

Did you look at resident evil or Star Fox or Rogue squadron? Those games have better graphics than Nearly all the games on the Xbox and every PS2 game. Are you sure you didn't see one on a 14" portable?
What is with the expansion abilities sucking, Its got more expansion ports than the PS2 and Xbox , in fact the Xbox doesnt have any Xpansion abilities at all.
What is with this hard disk Stuff, only the Xbox has a harddrive and its not like it uses it for anything profound, sure its nice to listen to music in game and have little loading in games like Halo but with the size of the GC's DVD's its not like it would be hard to reproduce that load time.


I dont even know any thing about the processor. I'm just assumeing it sucks like the rest of the system. It dosent out perform the Ps2 imo (amazeing I know). All of the games I've seen so far have looked like something back in the Windows 95/98 era. Some program had a review of a GC Fps and I was like "Cool looking HL mod" for a second. The graphics suck on the thing. Yeah Rogue Sqaudren (yes spelling that = to much effort) does look ok, so does Star Fox, but nether of them imo look as good as Mgs2 or FFX on the Ps2 (a couple of the Ps2s better looking games). Also a while ago due to certain circamstances (long story) a freind had a newly bought GC with him in my home. He had Super Smash Bros. I'm like after 30 minutes "yeah the gameplay is pretty cool, the music is l333333333t, but why does this look something worse than what Voodoo2s did in there time?".  And as for the harddisk. Lets just say its every thing. DVD= Slow. Yes I said SLOOOW. Hardisk= FAAAST. That means Box Devlopers can put a lot more shit in a game world, as it can be quickly streamed into the ram via the hardisk a hell of a lot faster than it can via the DVD (GC).

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The button layout works suprisingly well, however I don't expect you to know because it is evident from you post that you haven't exactly played one much. And if you prefer to use your £10 USB pad, I'd like to see exactly what you got for you £10. Although saying that I prefer my Logitech Wingman Extreme to all of them. Especially to the cheap nasty peice of shite that is the PS2 dualshock 2 controller.


Lets see how we you can play a Fps, something where you need acces to a lot of buttons fast, or a beat em up on it. Wait... you cant can you? Haha. Okay maybe Fps.. a BIT. The my £10 Usb pad OWNZ. I've used it so much, the D-Pad is nice and lose so it ownz all my controllers except my l33t Namco Arcade Stick kthx. Also Ps2s Duel Shock 2s are all round the best joypad out for a console today. Good build quality (compared to X-Box and GC heh), excellent button layout, commfy when useing one for hours, excellent all round pad for whatever the heck your playing. Sure GC controlls arent*that* bad. I'd prefer to play on one of them than some ghey old skool atari joysitck but still. Nintendo should have planed the controller out better (Same for the GBA. 4 buttons. What were they thinking!? It should have been 6!!!)


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You heard wrong


I'm not going on personal experience. This is just what a freind told me. It dosent matter any way. You wont be busting out dragon punches on that D-Pad any way... and what about the infamous "simple" mode hahahaha.

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Although you have your opinion I do feel that it is one that should be filedunder the heading 'Rampant Fanboy' and then never to be looked at again. From your actual post it is quite clear you have logged little or no playtime with a GC and therefore don't actually know what you are talking about. I therefore am drawn to the conclusion that you are a subscriber to www.teamxbox.com and you would become another on the list of worthy retard spammers that frequent the IGN boards.


Incorrect. I'm not a fanboy at all. I simply like what is good (X-Box hardware, some Ps2 games) and hate what is bad/shit (Ps2 hardware (UGGGGGGGH) GC hardware, a lot of X-Box games). I dont need to log time on a Game Cube to say "the graphics suck, theres no games out on it, the controller sucks, and nintendo is doing the stupid thing with it by not getting good games out on it fast". I'm not speaking as a fanboy. More spekaing as a fan of Nintendo who hasbeen sent from teh path by the shite GC.

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That statement is Dumb, first off, why would nintendo screw the GC, unlike Microsoft they are currently making money off it as shown by the fact that they were recently listed as japans No1 company which considers factors such as Worth, Growth and Profit.


Becuase as far as I know people own more GBAs in the world, then people own GCs haha. The reason nintendo are making money off it is cause the GC is so shit they only cost 5p to make (!!!) while the X-Box is good it costs £10000 to make (!!!!!!).

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You sir, are a silly fool who needs to learn that having an 'open mind' and being a rapid fanboy are two totally different things. It is hard to tell if you are A ps2 or an Xbox fanboy however from the fact that you complain about the lack of a harddrive you must be an Xbox fanboy, since you can't really consider the ps2 to have a harddrive in the sense that it doesn't have one to begin with, like the GC, and is only able to upgrade to one (view a very expensive upgrade), also like the GC.

Before you type another half baked dumb reply consider this, are you really hating the GC, or the fact that you don't have one and it is getting final fantasy? Is it a case of rotten eggs?


While the part about being a fool is in utmost completely corret the part about me being a X-Box/Ps2 fanboy is wrong as well. If any thing I'm a PC fanboy, mostly a ME fanboy. And yes, I'm typeing this becuase I really hate the GC. Really seriously and totally. For reasons I have quite possibly listed above and for reasons I myself dont quite understand. lolz.

Aha. This post has given me a nice break from my Media Studies homework (damn alevels). I will now return to my work/bum around for another hour spaming on more forums. Kthx.
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Post by: M0T on 2002-09-23 20:41:36
Lol, sorry but that stuff about being beaten by the PS2 is funny.

Walk up to a wall in MGS2 or FFX, then go up to a wall in a GC, then notice how the Texture is far clearer on the GC. This is why developers make GC and Xbox versions of games better than the PS2 counterparts, because the two systems are far mor advanced than the ps2. Hell there are better textures in some of my dreamcast games than In MGS2.

I also admit to being more of a PC man than a console guy and I spend much of the day playing CS when my PC is actually working right. However I object when people start rampantly Bashing the consoles that I own. Which is why my freinds never argue with me about consoles.
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Post by: Sir Canealot on 2002-09-23 21:01:57
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Walk up to a wall in MGS2 or FFX, then go up to a wall in a GC, then notice how the Texture is far clearer on the GC. This is why developers make GC and Xbox versions of games better than the PS2 counterparts, because the two systems are far mor advanced than the ps2. Hell there are better textures in some of my dreamcast games than In MGS2.


Yeah but Ps2 games arent about textures. Yes Ps2 has a STUPIDLY designed memory system. 32Megs of "fast" ram. No texture compression. Completely insane. But Square and Konami both said "The Ps2... it does some stuff well (polygons) and stuff badly (everything else almost haha)" and they catered the games to work around and with the Ps2s strenghths (polygons) and weaknesses (every thing else almost). So unless you look purely at textureing (which yes admintidly I do when I want to flame the Ps2) Mgs2 and FFX are two most amazeing looking titles (god I cant wait for Mgs2 Pc... shame theres no FFX Pc around the corner. Imagine those games in high res with decent texture filtering...). Yes the GC does textureing, probebly techs like bumpmapping ect better than the Ps2. But imo still graphically nothing on the GC beets Mgs2 or FFX. Its not just the technicalities of the graphics... its also the style. And so far Nintendo has been pretty shit at that... (imo)

And whats with the crappy midi music in Rogue Squadron 2? Its was just about passable in RS1... its not about midi sounding that bad on next gen consoles... SSBM has some of the most l33t music I've ever heard dang it.

Still I'm TRYING to give GC a chance. From what I've seen the RE game looks intresting, but every thing else dosent intrest me so far... but I'm not willing to like the thing for one game I'm afraid. Even X-Box has more than ONE intresting game on it.. but at £130 its not to bad a deal. I just hope Nintendo stops f-ing about and gets some good stuff out on it asap. Oh well.

Haha this post has been a nice break from my English homework... which I havent started yet. Bugger.
Title: FF:CC - 1.5 seconds of footage, woo!
Post by: M0T on 2002-09-23 21:03:50
Mario is the best game in ages, shame its bloody hard. I am personally gonna get MGS substance when it comes out.
Title: FF:CC - 1.5 seconds of footage, woo!
Post by: Sir Canealot on 2002-09-23 21:18:53
Yeah but Mario still has crap graphics (imo haha).
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Post by: sfx1999 on 2002-09-24 01:19:49
Compare this http://www.nintendo.com/systems/gcn/gcn_specs.jsp to this http://www.us.playstation.com/hardware/PS2/415007657.asp. If you know stuff about hardware, you can tell GC is better. One thing about PS2, though, LINUX!!! LINUX!!! http://www.us.playstation.com/hardware/more/SCPH-97047.asp
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Post by: Smurgen on 2002-09-24 01:42:48
I personally don't care if console A can do 45 more polygons than console B or if console C has a superduper thingy.
All that matters to me is the games and i'll play whatever games i likes. and since most games now are being made for all 3 consoles, it dosen't matter what one i get
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Post by: Aaron on 2002-09-24 03:39:16
Well, even though I still think Gamecube is graphically superior to PS2, let's look at the games.

Games I want on PS2:
FFX, possibly MGS

Games I want on Gamecube:
Star Wars RL, SSB:M, Pikmin, Sonic Adventure 2: Battle, Mario Sunshine, Star Fox: Adventures, Zelda, Super Monkey Ball / Super Monkey Ball 2, and others (not to mention the GBA games)

X-Box:
None

I really have always liked Nintendo-style games and have been less interested in these more "mature" games (fps i.e. Halo, scary bloody zombie shooters i.e. Resident Evil) that have many people's interest currently.


Some of my favorite games ever have really crappy graphics (by today's standard).  Starcraft, Zelda: Ocarina of Time, Pokémon for example.  Graphics don't matter as much... but they're still cool.

Enough rambling.
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Post by: Sir Canealot on 2002-09-24 09:15:06
sfx1999: Specs dont mean shit when it comes to Consoles.

Aaron: Is it me or are half those games not even out yet? But bah. I got tired of kiddie nintendo games a long while back me thinks.
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Post by: M0T on 2002-09-24 09:59:57
Maybe you just got tired of having fun?
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Post by: sfx1999 on 2002-09-24 18:50:17
If X-BOX used an AMD processor, I would probably wan't one...
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Post by: eerrrr on 2002-09-24 19:23:53
The only real reason I got an Xbox is cos my friend has one, and after playing Halo I just had to get one too. Plus playing 8 player deathmatches with all you mates is great.

I wouldn't mind having a PS2, but don't any of you get tired of playing remakes of the same Nintendo games over and over again? The Mario/Sonic/Pokemon/Zelda/Starfox games by Nintendo are almost getting as repetitive as the Street Fighter games. That's what put me off the Gamecube, and the fact that it's so small I'd probably lose it. :lol:

Hmm, reasons to buy the consoles?

PS2: Final Fantasy (of course), plus the fact that most game companies are jumping on the bandwagon because of its popularity.

Gamecube: ...the new Mario game looks interesting, but not worth splashing out £130 for.

Xbox: Halo, Halo 2, Splinter Cell, MGS2: Substance, Project Ego. That's about it, a lot of game companies seem to be afraid of making games for the Xbox, but put those games in my rack and I won't leave my room for months. Oh, and I like the Xbox's hardrive, it's a lot easier to borrow a friend's CD and burn the album onto the Xbox than copy it onto another CD, and since it's hooked up to my hi-fi I get the good 4 speaker quality. Oh, and the fact that it supports 5.1 for DVDs, music AND games, unlike the PS2.
I think the only downside of the Xbox is the amount of noise it makes, it's a lot quiter than a PC, but the fan's a little loud for my liking. A lot of people complain about the size, but come on, the PS2 looks like a radiator and the Gamecube would probably get blown out the window if a draft gets past the door.

Well, that's my two pennies.
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Post by: Sir Canealot on 2002-09-24 20:12:49
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are almost getting as repetitive as the Street Fighter games.


....

Most of Capcoms latest Street Fighers have been good...

Any way. Its nice to see some feedback from an X-Box fanboy! Nice going eerrrr.

Down with teh Game Cube.. or something :D

Btw is Spliter Cell out for X-Box yet? The preview I saw in Pc Zone a bit back made me droolz.
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Post by: Sephiroth 3D on 2002-09-24 22:11:49
Quote from: eerrrr
Xbox: ..., MGS2: Substance...

Don't bring MSG2: Substance into this. It's also be developed for PS2 and PC. (PC version is gonna kick every other version's ass!)
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Post by: Kendrilian on 2002-09-24 23:35:35
Herr Canealot, of course they haven't come out yet, Aaron said "want".  But what I wanna know is why the ones he has are on it... but I guess it saves making 2 lists.

The reason not to get an X-Box:  it's made by MicroSoft.

The reason not to get a PlayStation II: the 2 Final Fantasy's that have come out suck.

The reason not to get a GameCube:  Nintendo Games are usually more kiddy.

The reasons to get an X-Box:  better graphics, alotta first person shooters (I don't care about that one), Dead or Alive III.

The reasons to get a PlayStation II:  The Oshimo (or however you spell it) Series (I&II), XenoSaga, Maybe future Final Fantasy's IF they get better.

The reasons to get a GameCube:  Dr. Mario, Mario, Luigi, Bowser, Peach, Yoshi, Donkey Kong, Captian Falcon, GannonDorf, Young Link, Link, Zelda (Sheik), Samus, Kirby, Ness, Ice Climbers, Fox, Falco, Pichu, Pikachu, MewTwo, MR. GAME AND WATCH!, Marth, and Roy... NOT to mention the other games that come out for it! :P

Kendrilian :wicked:
Title: FF:CC - 1.5 seconds of footage, woo!
Post by: Sephiroth 3D on 2002-09-25 08:34:11
Those reasons to get a GameCube sounds just like the reason I'm going to get it. But I can break it down into two different titles: Super Smash Bros. Melee, and the new Legend of Zelda game.

I'm gonna get a PS2 so I can play FFX (I own a copy, but I don't own a system), and Gundam: Journey to Jabrow. (If that game had multiplayer it would have been awesome!)
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Post by: M0T on 2002-09-25 12:06:58
I had to get an Xbox too after playing Halo :) and I am waiting for quite a few games for it, although Metriod is no 1 on my list.
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Post by: Kendrilian on 2002-09-25 14:25:20
MOT!! THAT IS EVIL!  YOU HAVE BEEN ASSIMILATED!

Kendilian :wicked:
Title: FF:CC - 1.5 seconds of footage, woo!
Post by: M0T on 2002-09-25 16:16:41
I know, but I feel microsoft could have done a better job, I have had to stop playing 3 times now because the controller has become too painful to use, I want to use my GC one.
Title: FF:CC - 1.5 seconds of footage, woo!
Post by: KojiroTakenashi on 2002-09-25 19:34:51
Why don't you simply get a Controller S for your X-Box?
Title: FF:CC - 1.5 seconds of footage, woo!
Post by: Sir Canealot on 2002-09-25 22:22:06
Kendrilian... FFX owned... f00.

The X-Boxs controller acording to one person I know is extremely comfy to use once to get used to it, and he had experienced no pain or strains while useing it like other controllers hes used.

Me myself I could see myself getting uncomfy with the GC controller as its a bit small for my hands (even though my hands are smallish). The X-Box controller I've found very good for playing Halo (provided I could set the controlls up like Mouse and Keyboard eg: stick on right look around, d-pad move up/down/left/right), allthough it was pretty bad for DOA3 (ita all about getting a Psx-X-Box adaptor from Lik Sang and useing l33t Psx pads and arcade sticks for Doa3 heh). So Imo X-Box controller IS good once you get used to it... but its not great for every thing like the Ps2 controller is. Controller S for the X-Box is supposed to be about as bad/good as the normal one.. better with some games, worse with others.

But any way M0T... take teh pain. Its not about having to stop playing cause your hands are hurting. Now I'm on a desk without a wrist rest many a time my wrists hurt when playing UT for hours online... but I know its just because I'm useing muscles I dont use often, and working though the pain will simply increase my muscle mass and make me more atractive to women.

*shrugs* Same thing.
Title: FF:CC - 1.5 seconds of footage, woo!
Post by: M0T on 2002-09-26 07:21:05
LOL

There are very few muscle groups in your hand so any pain you experiance there is likely to bee Strain injury or even the onset of CPS, which means you should stop.
Co-incidentally the Psx pads give me this and also the snes pads (but thats because they are small)  I also have never experianced discomfort from the dreamcast controller which everyone talks about.
Title: FF:CC - 1.5 seconds of footage, woo!
Post by: Kendrilian on 2002-09-26 13:39:33
Canealot, I do not have FFX.  As a matter of fact, I hate it!  It is just a junky game...  The X-Box controller is just wierd, I agree with you there Mot.  GameCube and PlayStation Controllers are pretty much the same shape so using them is no problem if you have used one of them before.  The only problem I have experience with the GameCube controller is rolling my finger along the D-Pad because it is not used much...

Kendrilian :wicked:
Title: FF:CC - 1.5 seconds of footage, woo!
Post by: Sir Canealot on 2002-09-26 14:10:56
Quote from: M0T
LOL

There are very few muscle groups in your hand so any pain you experiance there is likely to bee Strain injury or even the onset of CPS, which means you should stop.


The reason you feel strain is becuase your over useing muscles you normally dont use much. So if you play a LOT of games (like I do) muscle string should be a very rare thing (I ocationly get very rare cases when playing Tekken on arcade stick with my freinds for hours on end, thats because I've only been useing arcade stick for about 7 months, so I've not had the time to build up my mighty sholder heh). String useing a game pad of any form would never happen to me, and string from a keyboard is very rare these days. Just gotta build up init.

However saying that, if your in more than very mild pain you SHOULD stop heh. No point digging a dagger into an open wound to try and get used to pain so to speak.
Title: FF:CC - 1.5 seconds of footage, woo!
Post by: Aaron on 2002-09-26 22:32:34
Ok, I feel like I have to say some stuff.

Obviously Kendrilian doesn't like FFX, but I know that all he's played is the beginning... maybe you should keep a more open mind until you get the chance to play more of it, because everyone I know who's played it (besides you) likes it.

Obviously Sir Canealot is pro-X-box and anti-Gamecube, and MOT is pro-Gamecube and anti-X-Box controller... maybe we should stop argueing becuase I don't think that any of us is gonna convince anyone else to change their opinion on this right now.

Ah well, that's it for now.
Title: FF:CC - 1.5 seconds of footage, woo!
Post by: Sephiroth 3D on 2002-09-27 02:15:16
I'd like to point out that on Ebay, you can buy adapters for whatever control you like to use, ot juts about any system you want. So you could use a PS2 control on a gamecube, or a gamecube on an X-Box. (Although I don't know if they make those yet, but it stands to reason that they do.)
Title: FF:CC - 1.5 seconds of footage, woo!
Post by: Sir Canealot on 2002-09-27 13:45:44
Thats what its all about heh. Useing l33t Ps2 joypads and arcade sticks on your GC/X-Box :)

But you can get them on Ebay? What did you search for? I've looked for Psx-Pc adaptors on ebay before (since my dad wont let me order off Lik-Sang) and theres been none thus far.
Title: FF:CC - 1.5 seconds of footage, woo!
Post by: M0T on 2002-09-27 15:15:36
I'm not antin Xbox controller as in I prefer the layout of the buttons I just don't like the controller size and handle shape.
Title: FF:CC - 1.5 seconds of footage, woo!
Post by: Sephiroth 3D on 2002-09-27 21:00:43
uhmm... I just entered "Playstation PC controller" and got 40 items, most of which are PS1/2 to PC adapters.

Similarly, I just entered "Playstation Xbox controller" and got 14 items, most of which are PS1/2 to Xbox converters.

They're out there, you just need to search for the right things.
Title: FF:CC - 1.5 seconds of footage, woo!
Post by: sfx1999 on 2002-09-27 22:35:35
Sir Canelot, I remember you saying specss don't mean shit when it comes to consoles. Weren't you raving on about XBox's graphics?