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Title: Final fantasy 8 for PC rerelease in Japan.Square back to PC?
Post by: Locutus on 2002-10-03 08:50:16
Squaresoft is releasing ff8 for PC in Japan. It may be sign that squaresoft is going back to PC , or it may means nothing. We shall see.
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Title: Final fantasy 8 for PC rerelease in Japan.Square back to PC?
Post by: The SaiNt on 2002-10-03 12:11:54
It marks Square trying to market their old stuff again.
Just like the remakes of FF1 and 2
Title: Final fantasy 8 for PC rerelease in Japan.Square back to PC?
Post by: Sephiroth 3D on 2002-10-03 18:01:40
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While the actual game has not undergone any changes, the re-release will feature a new packaging design.

Who gives a shit about packaging? I want true Win2k compatability!

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プラットフォーム:    Windows XP

I can't read japanese, but that sure as hell looks like it works on Win2k & XP! That's good enough for me.

And Saint is right. It's IS a re-release. They're trying to milk an almost-dead cow.
Title: ^^
Post by: Nori on 2002-10-03 18:07:29
http://www.amazon.co.jp/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00006L7C5/ref=ase_finalfantasy2-22/249-8563121-9966718

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Who gives a sh*t about packaging? I want true Win2k compatability!


Well, ne ne from my reading~
CD-ROM
PentiumII-266 (Min)
Windows95/98/Me/XP
64MB Ram
550MB Space
CD-ROM

6,018 Yen (errrr wait and see)!

************
For FF11 PC
OS: Wondows98/98SE/Me/2000/XP (Japanese Language Only)
CPU: Intel Pentium III 800MHz (min)
RAM: 128MB (min)
HD: 5GB (min)
CD-ROM
3D: VRAM32MB (min)/DirectX8.1
Online: 56kbps 'min' (Japan only)

7,280 Yen (too expensive) ^^;
Title: Done...
Post by: Nori on 2002-10-03 18:47:25
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It marks Square trying to market their old stuff again.
Just like the remakes of FF1 and 2


yupp yupp... for ps1 'WOW' =)
you can buy it now... eee some of you know the storylines~
well... try Japanese version (with mod).
Title: Final fantasy 8 for PC rerelease in Japan.Square back to PC?
Post by: Aaron on 2002-10-03 20:44:56
Hard to believe that FF8PC would work in Windows XP but not 2000.

Oh well, whatever they say...

I've never had any compatibility problems with FF7/FF8 in Windows XP (besides the FF7 Chocobo Race bug) anyway.
Title: Final fantasy 8 for PC rerelease in Japan.Square back to PC?
Post by: atzn on 2002-10-03 21:09:40
That's weird. Final Fantasy 8 PC worked fine on Win2000 for me.....  :wicked:
Title: Final fantasy 8 for PC rerelease in Japan.Square back to PC?
Post by: Sukaeto on 2002-10-04 04:23:34
It worked fine for me, too, in Win2k.

. . . I just ran it tonight - upgraded my CPU from a 900 Mhz T-bird to an Athlon XP 1600, had to see any kind of performance increase in different games.  The world map finally ALMOST runs at full speed . . . which is pretty sad.  Damn Square and their poor PC programming. - and it works pretty good in WinXP, as well.
Title: Final fantasy 8 for PC rerelease in Japan.Square back to PC?
Post by: Aaron on 2002-10-04 12:18:16
I had an old 4 meg graphics card - an "MPact 2 DVD" from a company called "Chromatic Research."
It ran the world map flawlessly, battles ok, and field screen terribly.
(All of my other games ran like crap on this card, except FF7 which ran fine)

I upgraded to a 32 meg TNT2 and the world map now doesn't run that good, battles excellent, and field screen excellent.

I don't get what is up with the field screen.  Works fine on cards that it shouldn't and doesn't work on cards that it should.
Title: Final fantasy 8 for PC rerelease in Japan.Square back to PC?
Post by: Goku7 on 2002-10-05 23:12:23
World map works fine and full speed on me 3Dfx Voodoo3 2000 PCI.

Well, of course the fact that I have a 1.5Ghz CPU might have a LITTLE something to do with it. ;)
Title: Final fantasy 8 for PC rerelease in Japan.Square back to PC?
Post by: atzn on 2002-10-06 12:42:57
Haha yeah.... the Voodoo cards seem to do the job well for Final Fantasy games.....  :)

Anyway my GeForce2 Pro is doing quite OK with FF8 as well. Not surprisingly, there are still lines in the menu and it looked rather messed up. But when I turn on FSAA the lines disappeared and the graphics look OK (I presume that the line was blurred off till it disappeared lol) in World Map/ everything!  :D
Title: Final fantasy 8 for PC rerelease in Japan.Square back to PC?
Post by: Sir Canealot on 2002-10-06 21:47:37
FFVIII worked fine for me in XP.  I rearely have problems with FFVIII...
Title: Final fantasy 8 for PC rerelease in Japan.Square back to PC?
Post by: eerrrr on 2002-10-07 16:06:13
Quote from: Aaron
I had an old 4 meg graphics card - an "MPact 2 DVD" from a company called "Chromatic Research."
It ran the world map flawlessly, battles ok, and field screen terribly.


Hey hey hey! I've got a crappy 4MB EDO RAM graphics card, ATI Rage II+ DVD or something. Do you think FF7 would work okay? Of course, the fact that it's EDO RAM doesn't help, but you never know...
Title: Yuppp~~
Post by: Nori on 2002-10-07 17:57:13
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Hey hey hey! I've got a crappy 4MB EDO RAM graphics card, ATI Rage II+ DVD or something. Do you think FF7 would work okay? Of course, the fact that it's EDO RAM doesn't help, but you never know...


lol that will do =D
My old-compu (works):
333 MHz;
ATI Rage Pro (rpro_540-1b02k);
Windows98/ME;
49 SDRAM ---> 160SDRAM;
DirectX 8.1 =x.x=
Title: Final fantasy 8 for PC rerelease in Japan.Square back to PC?
Post by: Aaron on 2002-10-07 18:01:25
If you have a fast enough CPU, FF7 should work fine.

I had a 266 mhz with my 4 meg card and FF7 didn't work well at all, but when I upgraded to 950 mhz it ran very very very very nicely :P

Course it runs great on my new GeForce4 TI but whatever.
Title: Final fantasy 8 for PC rerelease in Japan.Square back to PC?
Post by: atzn on 2002-10-07 18:16:54
When I first run FF7 I was using a PII350 / 64MB SDRAM with a 8MB i740 graphics card and it ran well. When I upgraded to Voodoo3 3000 + 64MB of SDRAM the game became very fast.... :)
Title: Final fantasy 8 for PC rerelease in Japan.Square back to PC?
Post by: eerrrr on 2002-10-08 15:20:25
Oh yeah, check out my specs:

PII 233Mhz (only upgradable to 333Mhz)
32MB SDRAM
Win98 SE

Hot stuff eh? Oh well, never played games on it before, won't make any difference.
Title: Final fantasy 8 for PC rerelease in Japan.Square back to PC?
Post by: Sukaeto on 2002-10-09 01:19:40
Wow . . . I remember the first time I played FF7 . . .

It was on an AMD K6 MMX 233, with a 4 meg S3 VirgeGX and a SB AWE64 (with only the default 512k of cache).

I had to play the whole game in Software rendering mode (choppy as hell in the battles and on the world map . . . not to mention all of the mini games.), and the music sounded pretty bad.
Title: Final fantasy 8 for PC rerelease in Japan.Square back to PC?
Post by: Kendrilian on 2002-10-09 21:05:37
The first time I played FFVII... was on a:

Pentium I 166MHz
16 MB of RAM
SoundBlaster Pro II
Unknown video card
2 geg harddrive

WHOO!  Playable, but really LONNNGGG!!
The battle swirl took at least 2 mins...

Kendrilian :wicked:
Title: Final fantasy 8 for PC rerelease in Japan.Square back to PC?
Post by: atzn on 2002-10-09 21:15:33
I didn't know about Final Fantasy games in the past until my friend recommended me to get FF7. I thought, well I'll just give this game a chance. When I first played it.... it was really cool. That's when I started to like FF games.....  :)

I ran it on a P2 350/ 64mb RAM/ 8mb i740/ AWE64

The sound quality was good (although the MIDIs can't be compared against PS' music), but I had to run on Software renderer because I didn't know how to update graphics card driver then (New to the Internet during that time too  :lol: )

Overall the game ran pretty OK on software + full screen. When I updated the drivers I ran on D3D and I must admit I gasped when I first saw FF7's graphics in 3D.....  :)
Title: Final fantasy 8 for PC rerelease in Japan.Square back to PC?
Post by: Joey on 2002-10-12 01:43:16
It is great on my computer too except for the menus and dialogs which looks as if they're rusty. Also, the details looks blur. Might it be DirectX 8.1 causing this? Everything was OK back with DirectX 6.
Title: Final fantasy 8 for PC rerelease in Japan.Square back to PC?
Post by: dgp9999 on 2002-10-14 08:44:00
So, is this new J version of FF8 going to look exactly the same as the previous? I mean, are going to increase the resolution or change anything?

The first I played FF7 was on my last computer:
Pentium III 500mhz
192mb RAM
Voodoo 3 3000AGP (Like AGP ever made a difference with the V3s  -_- )
Everything ran fine, the world map does run a lot faster on a GF2 but it ran pretty fast then, hella stable too might I add.

FF8 PC's music was rather impressive I thought. I never played the PSX equivelent (still haven't) but the Microsoft Synthesiser is... er, well is was ok then! Now, I don't know what to use for FF8.
Title: Final fantasy 8 for PC rerelease in Japan.Square back to PC?
Post by: Aaron on 2002-10-14 12:06:57
FF8 sounds a lot better than default if you use Samuel's DLS :P
Title: Final fantasy 8 for PC rerelease in Japan.Square back to PC?
Post by: Goku7 on 2002-10-14 21:18:51
Yeah, but not everyone has the time or modem speed to d/l it. :P

Which is why I'm hoping the Revision2 DLS update can help people in those situations.

And, no, I'm not really trying to compete with Samuel's DLS on an instrument quality scale, but it WILL be a pretty good compromise between sound quality and download size.

Just be glad you only have to D/L a 1mb patch instead of being forced to download the whole 9.2mb all over again!
Title: Final fantasy 8 for PC rerelease in Japan.Square back to PC?
Post by: atzn on 2002-10-14 21:28:08
Samuel's DLS is pretty good (sounds better than the MS synthesizer!). And yes I downloaded the 30mb on my 56k!  :wicked: (That was before I got my DSL)  :)
Title: Final fantasy 8 for PC rerelease in Japan.Square back to PC?
Post by: Goku7 on 2002-10-14 22:45:46
Sigh.......

You know, most likely Samuel's DLS is being played back by the MS synth, anyway, so you really can't say it sounds better than the MS synth.

Whenever you're talking about the quality of a DirectMusic synth, such as the MS synth, the synth's quality can only be as good as the instrument samples in the DLS its using.

Which is why the MS synth can sound totally different, depending on the DLS loaded.
Title: Final fantasy 8 for PC rerelease in Japan.Square back to PC?
Post by: dgp9999 on 2002-10-15 07:54:19
I downloaded Samuels DLS a long time ago on a 56k. I just used a download proggy called GoZilla! Now I use GetRight though, less ads. I think I'll try out Samuels DLS again, I want to challenge Omega Weapon, never done that before.
Should I use MS Synth or upload it straight to my Audigy?
Title: Final fantasy 8 for PC rerelease in Japan.Square back to PC?
Post by: Aaron on 2002-10-15 12:06:45
If you've got the Audigy set up to do hardware DLS, go for it, it'll take a little bit of load off of your CPU.
Title: Final fantasy 8 for PC rerelease in Japan.Square back to PC?
Post by: atzn on 2002-10-15 15:10:11
Quote from: Goku7

You know, most likely Samuel's DLS is being played back by the MS synth, anyway, so you really can't say it sounds better than the MS synth.

Whenever you're talking about the quality of a DirectMusic synth, such as the MS synth, the synth's quality can only be as good as the instrument samples in the DLS its using.

Which is why the MS synth can sound totally different, depending on the DLS loaded.


I'll keep that it mind. Learnt something new today.  :P

Thanks.
Title: Final fantasy 8 for PC rerelease in Japan.Square back to PC?
Post by: Smurgen on 2002-10-15 17:39:44
I like setting Winamp's midi plugin to directmusic then setting the DLS to Samuel's and playing ALL my midis with it
its keen
Title: Final fantasy 8 for PC rerelease in Japan.Square back to PC?
Post by: Sir Canealot on 2002-10-16 07:03:54
Heh I used a PII 233Mhz
64 Megs of ram
Some Yamaha Soundcard
ATI Rage Pro
back in the day. Every thing ran damn well to.. I remember back then when I first got the demo after playing the Ps version months back. I remember playing it though at least once per day to retain my sanity :D
Eventurly I convinced my dad to buy it and thats my story... eventurly I upgraded the ATI Rage Pro to a Riva TNT1. Fixed a lot of the movie crashing problems I was having but the game still crashed a bit. FFVII ran flawlessly on my next machine (Atholn 650), but I havent tried it on this one cause I screwed up duel booting to 98SE last time I tried. Oh well.