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Title: need help with 7th heaven setup
Post by: sirkos on 2016-01-06 23:36:08
i install ff7 1998 version onto desktop
i use ff7 game converter it moves the game to C:
after gives me a bunch of ERROR access denied then finishes
also with the game converter i can keep on trying to convert
on 7th heaven.exe when i click on download mod its always calculating

what do i have to do to make all this work? i tried going through the tutorial video and mines never the same
Title: Re: need help with 7th heaven setup
Post by: Yuffie1983 on 2016-01-07 00:11:30
i install ff7 1998 version onto desktop
i use ff7 game converter it moves the game to C:
after gives me a bunch of ERROR access denied then finishes
also with the game converter i can keep on trying to convert
on 7th heaven.exe when i click on download mod its always calculating

what do i have to do to make all this work? i tried going through the tutorial video and mines never the same

You can not install straight on to the desktop, your best bet is to install it like this C:\Final Fantasy VII, maximum install. If the game converter is throwing out errors be sure to run as admin. Also make sure to mount the blank ISO. That always calculating problem, sounds to me like either a server problem or a internet one. What you may want to try is cleaning the folder in the app data and try again. Also Run the 7TH heaven EXE with admin rights too.
Title: Re: need help with 7th heaven setup
Post by: sirkos on 2016-01-07 01:42:22
when i install ff7 i did it to the max also i have the real ff7 1998 cd so do i use disk 1 n not a  blank iso? other then that thank you for the reply ill be trying what you said now  ;D
Title: Re: need help with 7th heaven setup
Post by: sirkos on 2016-01-07 01:54:20
also is it true that i need to run ff7 and play abit before i can do modding? because i cant even make the game run nevermind with  mods and i tried messing with compatibles
Title: Re: need help with 7th heaven setup
Post by: sirkos on 2016-01-07 02:59:35
You can not install straight on to the desktop, your best bet is to install it like this C:\Final Fantasy VII, maximum install. If the game converter is throwing out errors be sure to run as admin. Also make sure to mount the blank ISO. That always calculating problem, sounds to me like either a server problem or a internet one. What you may want to try is cleaning the folder in the app data and try again. Also Run the 7TH heaven EXE with admin rights too.

im fine now you helped me thank you, now its just to see if i can play the game after all these mods done downloading, would the game work now? because if i try to play ff7 without mods after installation it wont play
Title: Re: need help with 7th heaven setup
Post by: weltall on 2016-01-07 05:08:58
Liek the guide said, you can either use the blank iso or rename a USB drive or hard drive to FF7DISC1. The converter and in extension the game, just needs to have a drive called that, so it can virtually see that the CD is inside your drive. I never tried leaving the CD inside, but I am guessing it would work if you did. Would give you a feeling of the past, when disc would keep spinning while we played games XD

I never player vanilla after I found bootleg/7th Heaven. I never had a problem with the game because of 7th Heaven. I did have problems running the game, but it was a bad configuration on my side. At least on windows 7 I do NOT set any compatibility options, when using 7th heaven that is. I did that only way way in the past when playing the game vanilla, without mods. Like Yuffie said, sometimes the converter throws errors. Better pay close attention to it.
Title: Re: need help with 7th heaven setup
Post by: EQ2Alyza on 2016-01-07 05:24:08
The converter was updated for this release, which I hope fixes most of the access denied, run as admin type of errors people get.

Having the install disc in your CD-Rom drive is ok, so long as the drive reads it as FF7DISC1. The renaming of a drive or using the mounted ISO is just a trick to have the game think the original CD is loaded, and it has to be there when you run the converter so that the registry keys can read what drive letter it wants to read FF7DISC1 from.
Title: Re: need help with 7th heaven setup
Post by: sirkos on 2016-01-07 05:34:38
ok thanks :) i bought the 1998 version to be doing this, when i tried again i did run as admin on both converter and 7th heaven and no errors so its all working until these mods done downloading then we see  when it comes to playing, the 2Gb+ ones take hrs :O
Title: Re: need help with 7th heaven setup
Post by: EQ2Alyza on 2016-01-07 05:39:25
Sorry, I can't help with the larger sizes on some of the categories :-\ The Field Textures made it up to 10+GB when we added satsuki waifu textures, so I decided it was best to split that one into 2 parts.
Title: Re: need help with 7th heaven setup
Post by: sirkos on 2016-01-07 05:42:24
naaa its fine :P

i like your avatar its cute :3, i cant find the mods "Dynamic Cloud Weapons"Team Avalanche Fields" (i put the rest in order with what i got) and because "The Reunion" is on the top "The Reunion - Beacause: root\ff7_bc.exe" set thst exe location only?
Title: Re: need help with 7th heaven setup
Post by: EQ2Alyza on 2016-01-07 05:49:05
Not sure what you mean by, "cant find the mods Dynamic Cloud Weapons Team Avalanche Fields" Did you download them? Check the window pane on the right side to see for blue text that says they were installed. It tells you it was installed after the download completes.

It's not actually "root\ff7_bc.exe" --- root is just the location where your game is installed, so if you installed in C:\Games\FF7 then you would put into FF7 Exe C:\Games\FF7\ff7_bc.exe

I would load The Reunion - Beacuase and Menu Overhaul towards the bottom. Put all the Miscellaneous categories at the top, then everything else in alphabetical order. That is how I tested everything and it works great.
Title: Re: need help with 7th heaven setup
Post by: sirkos on 2016-01-07 06:03:59
well on yourtifas final heaven post it says Miscellaneous -
Dynamic Cloud Weapons
Miscellaneous - Jessie Mod
Miscellaneous - Sephiroth Story Mod
Miscellaneous - Team Avalanche Fields
Any order thereafter (I recommend alphabetically)

and on my catalog i dont see the ones that i mentioned, so i cant download Team Avalanche Fields Dynamic Cloud Weapons
Title: Re: need help with 7th heaven setup
Post by: EQ2Alyza on 2016-01-07 06:18:56
Did you update the Workshop -> Settings with the new subscriptions link?

Once you do that, close 7H. Then go to C:\Users\username\AppData\Roaming\7thWorkshop and delete the Catalog.xml. Now reopen 7H and click on Workshop -> Check subscriptions now. Then go to the Catalog tab and click the Search button to refresh. The new Catalog 2.0 should be there.
Title: Re: need help with 7th heaven setup
Post by: sirkos on 2016-01-07 06:35:51
thanks its fixed :)
Title: Re: need help with 7th heaven setup
Post by: sirkos on 2016-01-07 08:26:38
ok so back on here i moved on abit more the game loads but with no music and when i start new game nothing but black i can see chat boxes and sound effects and thats it not even a intro video unless thats suppose to be missing.
Title: Re: need help with 7th heaven setup
Post by: EQ2Alyza on 2016-01-07 08:34:37
Where did you originally install the game, before the GC moved it to a new location?
Title: Re: need help with 7th heaven setup
Post by: sirkos on 2016-01-07 08:58:30
well the last time i did put it in C: like someone said to do so its that with Final Fantasy VII as a name, so the GC(gamecube?) didnt have to move it
Title: Re: need help with 7th heaven setup
Post by: EQ2Alyza on 2016-01-07 09:39:31
GC = Game Converter

I have no idea how your game is installed at this point, but something isn't right. Go here and follow the steps in the first question for starting over completely fresh: http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=16538.0

After you've got a completely fresh install in a non-system folder (e.g. C:\Games\Final Fantasy VII), continue with STEP 1 again.
Title: Re: need help with 7th heaven setup
Post by: sirkos on 2016-01-07 09:49:43
ok but doesnt the game need patching so it will work on win 8?
Title: Re: need help with 7th heaven setup
Post by: EQ2Alyza on 2016-01-07 09:50:44
It's all included in the Game Converter.
Title: Re: need help with 7th heaven setup
Post by: sirkos on 2016-01-07 09:57:37
ok then, thank you for helping me :) also i need to install the mods  again right? or probably redo everything?
Title: Re: need help with 7th heaven setup
Post by: EQ2Alyza on 2016-01-07 10:07:08
I'd recommend you download again. Remember to delete everything inside the the C:\Users\username\AppData\Roaming\7thWorkshop folder before you open 7H again.
Title: Re: need help with 7th heaven setup
Post by: sirkos on 2016-01-07 10:12:28
ok i used the link you gave me ...
1. Uninstall Final Fantasy VII.
2. Delete all the junk files in the game directory.
2. Run this to clean FF7 registry keys

when using the GC it says its already been patched if i try to overwrite it gives a failed to find languages
i also reinstalled ff7 into C:\Games\Final Fantasy VII

i also did the deleted 7thworkshop folder
Title: Re: need help with 7th heaven setup
Post by: EQ2Alyza on 2016-01-07 10:15:17
Run the GC and choose to Unpatch first. Then you can run again and patch.
Title: Re: need help with 7th heaven setup
Post by: sirkos on 2016-01-07 10:21:34
telling me to put a path to data/movie but that folder doesnt exist
Title: Re: need help with 7th heaven setup
Post by: sirkos on 2016-01-07 10:26:45
nvm its fine now but still no sound saying something couldnt be found in the game and i havent used 7th heaven yet
Title: Re: need help with 7th heaven setup
Post by: EQ2Alyza on 2016-01-07 10:30:20
You should have sound. There is a music\vgmstream folder and the music files are in there. This is where the Aali's driver pulls the music from.
Title: Re: need help with 7th heaven setup
Post by: sirkos on 2016-01-07 10:34:56
my music\vgmstream folder is empty did a miss something?
Title: Re: need help with 7th heaven setup
Post by: EQ2Alyza on 2016-01-07 10:42:06
Yes, the GC should have moved the music files from the data\music_ogg folder to the music\vgmstream folder. This means the GC did not work properly for you. Post your FF7_GC.log for me please.
Title: Re: need help with 7th heaven setup
Post by: sirkos on 2016-01-07 10:43:57
here you go :)
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FF7 GameConverter, Version 7th Heaven
Creator: Kompass63
Editor: EQ2Alyza

Start running at    Date: 07/01/2016    Time: 11:23:14.25
Active code page: 850
ActualPath C:\Users\me\AppData\Local\Temp\7ZipSfx.000


You are running "Windows 8 Pro" on a 64 Bit Operating System (AMD64)

Real Management 32Bit WOW64

This patch is not yet applied.

old Release is installed in "c:\games\final fantasy vii"


Installation path found at...

"c:\games\final fantasy vii"

If an installation path IS found, press ENTER.

If an installation path IN NOT found, TYPE IT IN and press ENTER.

EXAMPLE: "C:\Games\Final Fantasy VII" (parenthesis included)



Patching...

Copying Registry Keys...
Removed CompatFlags from "ff7.exe"
Removed CompatFlags from "ff7config.exe"

Setting GC Registry Keys...

HKLM\SOFTWARE\Square Soft, Inc.\Final Fantasy VII\GameConverterkeys


Setting language to en...

Detecting drive letter for FF7 Discs...

Drive letter for FF7DISC1 --- G:\


Original release detected...

A "movies" folder has been placed into the data folder of your game directory...
TYPE the path to this "movies" folder, then press ENTER.

EXAMPLE: "C:\Games\Final Fantasy VII\data\movies" (parenthesis included)


MOVIEPATH NOT FOUND.
It may have been typed incorrectly...

Using "c:\games\final fantasy vii\movies" instead...

Movies not found...

If custom Movies are located somewhere, change the "MoviePath" Registry Key entry at:
HKLM\SOFTWARE\Square Soft, Inc.\Final Fantasy VII


Movies path found at...

"c:\games\final fantasy vii\movies\"

Backing up files to be modified...

Backing up more files to be modified...

Copying English Files...

Copying 1.02 patch for ff7.exe...

Copying Aali's Custom Driver, version 0.8.1b...

Moving OGG music files...

Adding more Registry Keys...
Adding Registry Keys to HKLM\SOFTWARE\Square Soft, Inc.\Final Fantasy VII
Adding Registry Keys to HKLM\SOFTWARE\Square Soft, Inc.\Final Fantasy VII\1.00\Graphics
Adding Registry Keys to HKLM\SOFTWARE\Square Soft, Inc.\Final Fantasy VII\1.00\MIDI
Adding Registry Keys to HKLM\SOFTWARE\Square Soft, Inc.\Final Fantasy VII\1.00\Sound
Adding Registry Key to HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\App Paths\FF7app.exe

Please check over the settings for FF7Config...

1) Sound tab should have a Sound device set. Do NOT leave it blank.
2) Perform the Sound and MIDI tests.
3) Graphics tab can be ignored.
4) Click OK when finished.

Inserting Multi.dll, Hext.dll, and Languagefile...

Patching FF7anyCDv2...

Install the Laptop Keyboard Patch?
(Choose YES if keyboard does NOT have a NUMPAD)
NO

Patching complete.

Check FF7_GC.log for details.


called with ""C:\Users\me\AppData\Local\Temp\7ZipSfx.000\FF7_GameConverter_7H.bat""
Arguments: "C:\Users\me\AppData\Local\Temp\7ZipSfx.000\FF7_GameConverter_7H.bat"

PROCESSOR_ARCHITECTURE:          x86
PROCESSOR_ARCHITEW6432:          AMD64
Actual Path:                     C:\Users\me\AppData\Local\Temp\7ZipSfx.000
Product Name:                    Windows 8 Pro
Architecture:                    AMD64
Running in Modus                 32Bit WOW64
OS Bit Version                   64
Reg-Keyname Steam                HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall\Steam App 39140
Reg-Keyname Re-Release           HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall\{141B8BA9-BFFD-4635-AF64-078E31010EC3}_is1
Reg-Keyname 1                    HKLM\SOFTWARE\Square Soft, Inc.
Reg-Keyname 2                    HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\App Paths\FF7app.exe
Reg-Keyname 3                    HKCU\SOFTWARE\Classes\VirtualStore\MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Square Soft, Inc.
Steam Release is present:         
Steam Release Path:               
Re-Release is present:           
Re-Release Path:                 
Original Release is present:     Yes
Original Release Path:           c:\games\final fantasy vii
Destination Path:                c:\games\final fantasy vii
Source Path:                     c:\games\final fantasy vii
Videos Path:                     c:\games\final fantasy vii\movies
Original Videos Path:            c:\games\final fantasy vii\movies
Original Language                en
Converted Language               en
Original Drive Letter:           G:\
Converted Drive Letter:          G:\
and now clear up Variables...
Ending at           Date: 07/01/2016    Time: 11:24:23.40
Title: Re: need help with 7th heaven setup
Post by: EQ2Alyza on 2016-01-07 10:50:46
Does your data\music_ogg folder have the music files in it?
Title: Re: need help with 7th heaven setup
Post by: sirkos on 2016-01-07 10:53:20
data\music_ogg folder, there is music type files but nothing to do with ogg folder no folder at all in data/music
Title: Re: need help with 7th heaven setup
Post by: EQ2Alyza on 2016-01-07 11:03:09
Ok, you're running original 1998 game discs? I think I know the "issue" now, though it's not really an issue. The 2012 Square Enix Store and 2013 Steam releases have the updated data\music_ogg folders with looping OGG music files. The original game had the .midi files in data\music. This isn't a problem for you, as you just need to download the Media - Music and Sound category from the Catalog and run one of the music mods there.

I may have to make a 2nd GC for anyone using the original game discs, and have it place the original music in the music\vgmstream folder. That's only needed if you want to play with music and without downloading the Media - Music and Sound category from the Catalog.

Does the opening movie with Aerith/Midgar play for you?
Title: Re: need help with 7th heaven setup
Post by: sirkos on 2016-01-07 11:11:53
yea i am using the 1998 disc
ok so without mods when i start i still cant see anything there is no aerith/midgar cutscene just black and sound effects with the text box "come on new comer"

in data/music the music type files but not midi format back in data file there is a data/midi folder
i am planning on using the music mod but that didnt change a thing after i downloaded and installed it
 i have ff7  steam version could i rip the music from that and put in data/music/ogg folder?
Title: Re: need help with 7th heaven setup
Post by: EQ2Alyza on 2016-01-07 11:16:32
No, I'm worried about the part in your FF7_GC.log where it didn't recognize the movies folder. You then appeared to have typed in the wrong location for the data\movies folder, so it tried creating one for you and it's in the wrong location.

If you have the Steam version, I'd use that. It has been what I've run most my tests on. I can install the original discs sometime later and problem solve this stuff myself. At this point, we're running in circles when we could move forward with the Steam version.
Title: Re: need help with 7th heaven setup
Post by: sirkos on 2016-01-07 11:20:44
ok sorry about that but i personally know alot more about this stuff thanks to you :) i guess i made a bad choice with using the 1998 version but hey the box looks cool lol
Title: Re: need help with 7th heaven setup
Post by: Yuffie1983 on 2016-01-07 11:30:10
I have an issue myself now, I can not figure this out sorry.

https://photos.google.com/search/_tra_/photo/AF1QipM4Z0HEDxw8ItvFBAWqECuHjSpAr1UskKUybA27 (https://photos.google.com/search/_tra_/photo/AF1QipM4Z0HEDxw8ItvFBAWqECuHjSpAr1UskKUybA27)
Title: Re: need help with 7th heaven setup
Post by: sirkos on 2016-01-07 11:34:41
I have an issue myself now, I can not figure this out sorry.

https://photos.google.com/search/_tra_/photo/AF1QipM4Z0HEDxw8ItvFBAWqECuHjSpAr1UskKUybA27 (https://photos.google.com/search/_tra_/photo/AF1QipM4Z0HEDxw8ItvFBAWqECuHjSpAr1UskKUybA27)

hey give me back my materia you :P
Title: Re: need help with 7th heaven setup
Post by: Yuffie1983 on 2016-01-07 11:37:58
hey give me back my materia you :P

Sorry I need it for Watai.
Title: Re: need help with 7th heaven setup
Post by: sirkos on 2016-01-07 11:56:20
maybe i Cloud will defeat your dad before you do haha no final limit break for you!(i think)
Title: Re: need help with 7th heaven setup
Post by: sirkos on 2016-01-07 15:51:17
No, I'm worried about the part in your FF7_GC.log where it didn't recognize the movies folder. You then appeared to have typed in the wrong location for the data\movies folder, so it tried creating one for you and it's in the wrong location.

If you have the Steam version, I'd use that. It has been what I've run most my tests on. I can install the original discs sometime later and problem solve this stuff myself. At this point, we're running in circles when we could move forward with the Steam version.

hi sorry to bother you, everything was going well but im abit lost now...
i keep getting this popup Mod The Reunion - Because and Menu Overhaul, setting because - no compatible option.... and so on, what do i do here?
also when i mess with the sephiroth story mod it makes 7th heaven crash
also i cant play until that popup goes away