Post by: Kaldarasha on 2016-01-21 15:50:38
Here is some ideas I got:
Visual degeneration of Clouds look
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Mouth movement when text box pops up. Needs a new tool for that.
Post by: mitzmitra on 2016-01-21 16:35:25
Btw. I could need someone who would draw a few high res textures for the eyes and mouths. My painting isn't clean enough for that.
ofcourse if i can be of any help i will do it! :D just send me the details (size, color, etc.) :-D
Post by: Kaldarasha on 2016-01-21 20:38:00
Post by: mitzmitra on 2016-01-22 04:35:45
That's very good for me, I have asked for a very long time for that. Well I have to look at the textures and see which I does use and send them to you.
ok sir! hopefully my work could be of any help to your models.. ;D i actually like to know how to create these models.. but don't know where to start :D
Post by: Kaldarasha on 2016-01-22 17:54:18
https://mega.nz/#!qFUyFaIJ!1XS-jEtx4_8380VW-40JBoxE1vqg8KOEFTpilo-h_Bg
I only need the mouth and the eyes high res. Please keep in mind there is a problem with the way the game use the blend mode so please avoid aplpha values. I also need the texture with the eyes closed.
Post by: mitzmitra on 2016-01-22 18:48:40
Let's start with Cloud's face
https://mega.nz/#!qFUyFaIJ!1XS-jEtx4_8380VW-40JBoxE1vqg8KOEFTpilo-h_Bg
I only need the mouth and the eyes high res. Please keep in mind there is a problem with the way the game use the blend mode so please avoid aplpha values. I also need the texture with the eyes closed.
i'm sorry, i don't know how these alpha channels work with textures, and this is the first time i did this kind of thing.. i was overwhelmed to accept the job, so didn't realized that i really don't know how these images work, so i don't know if this will do.. *based this from cloud ff7 remake trailer, added background for viewing purposes*
please don't kill me.. :(
(http://i.imgur.com/hBqkAWE.jpg)
Post by: Kaldarasha on 2016-01-22 19:43:48
Maybe if you paint on pure black it would work better. The problem is the fading from the texture to the background color. Well you could also try to paint it without a background and we will see how it will look on the model.
Post by: mitzmitra on 2016-01-23 08:42:45
I love that style!
Maybe if you paint on pure black it would work better. The problem is the fading from the texture to the background color. Well you could also try to paint it without a background and we will see how it will look on the model.
;D ;D ;D was happy that you like it! :D
this is the png file (without background)
https://goo.gl/photos/ogAmoXvxw1Zq15qZ7
Post by: Kaldarasha on 2016-01-23 12:44:13
(http://i.imgur.com/dok2IuC.png?1)
This is how it should look with correct working alpha blending:
(http://i.imgur.com/aA74YKD.png?1)
Post by: mitzmitra on 2016-01-23 12:45:53
EDIT:
when i give you the transparent image, is it place to the model as it is? i mean, no resizing? because i think we should shrink a bit the eyes :D i color pick a shadow from your model, that's the color im using now on the eyes shadow..
Post by: mitzmitra on 2016-01-23 13:25:41
(http://i.imgur.com/d4t2ZaB.jpg)
i will send you the png file again.. here it is :)
https://goo.gl/photos/vNVn8zX1MtmSLngo9
this png is transparent.. just showed you the color on first image :D
Post by: lionheart82 on 2016-01-23 14:13:41
Post by: Kaldarasha on 2016-01-23 14:24:01
Hahaha omg he looks like he hasn't slept for a week! Majin Cloud! :-P eyebrows are cool, but can you loose those dark rings around eyes?
Honestly it could be usefull
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Post by: mitzmitra on 2016-01-23 14:50:16
Post by: Kaldarasha on 2016-01-23 16:06:37
(http://i.imgur.com/kdRjFXY.png)
Post by: mitzmitra on 2016-01-23 16:15:36
Post by: lionheart82 on 2016-01-23 16:50:34
Post by: Kaldarasha on 2016-01-23 18:59:45
is that the black materia scene?
The Honey Bee inn. The wallmarket has many scenes I need to test a few things and a few have a very close camera.
How about you make them all like that and we send it to segachief to make a mod with it?
Why? It is a graphical mod which is my department. And if you refer to my idea of the visual degeneration it would also be a mod I'm best suited for because it will need features of 7H (replace texture by gamemoment).
Post by: mitzmitra on 2016-01-23 19:13:36
Post by: Kaldarasha on 2016-01-23 19:30:55
Maybe take the Smash Bros Cloud as inspiration.
(http://static.trustedreviews.com/94/000036d1d/34e2_orh350w620/Super-Smash-Bros-Cloud-6-1280x720.jpg)
(http://www.ssbwiki.com/images/5/57/Cloud_SSB4.png)
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Post by: lionheart82 on 2016-01-23 19:35:50
Post by: mitzmitra on 2016-01-24 03:59:00
https://goo.gl/photos/iqRtqTnepWaE7vev5
i'll be creating another sample based on what you suggested, the SB CLOUD.. ;D
EDIT: here it is
https://goo.gl/photos/Jn1b5GiYhP8vXy1c8
Post by: Kaldarasha on 2016-01-24 10:14:04
For the second you need to move the eye higher or closer to the eyebrow.
Post by: mitzmitra on 2016-01-24 12:55:59
It does look better without the shadow. They eyeball could be a tiny bit smaller along the x axis.
For the second you need to move the eye higher or closer to the eyebrow.
ok i will do that to two samples.. will upload here later.. thanks for the patience ;D ;D
Post by: mitzmitra on 2016-01-24 16:58:14
https://goo.gl/photos/FRsrzmNPxotejuD8A
moved the eye closer to the brow
https://goo.gl/photos/usQbZHTgGJKG4rsF6
Post by: Kaldarasha on 2016-01-24 18:52:49
(http://i.imgur.com/fp6LUbe.png)
I have edited a bit because it the white on the right was too much. I like the first a bit more but because of the FMVs I think that we shouldn't use it.
Here is a comparison with the original texture
(http://i.imgur.com/Z9QP0Nj.png)
So Dan what do you think?
If everything is fine I need the eye texture with the light spot coming from the right and a with the eye are closed.
Post by: mitzmitra on 2016-01-24 20:15:28
Post by: Kaldarasha on 2016-01-24 20:27:38
coooool ;D can you give me a tex of the closed eye so i can base the size from there.. :) i will try to create the mouth too, i will base it on the SB model again ;D
The texture is from the battle model which has no closed eye texture so you need to make it from scratch. Sorry about that.
Post by: mitzmitra on 2016-01-24 20:56:46
this is the left and right eye with same light coming from the right
https://goo.gl/photos/DBvnQtyVWynX7FMv7
and this is the lips, this will be another trial and error again, sorry ;D
https://goo.gl/photos/ujeEGGaX4PRgVqMX9
i tried placing it on your screenshot, i hope the lips look like this on the actual model, but im not sure 'coz the model dont show what we want initially :D
(http://i.imgur.com/niCZkFE.png)
Post by: Kaldarasha on 2016-01-24 21:09:28
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and this is the lips, this will be another trial and error again, sorry
I need the lip to be more a line with a slightly move down
Post by: mitzmitra on 2016-01-24 21:15:11
https://goo.gl/photos/xpAoECNDfFJHPcQh6
Post by: Kaldarasha on 2016-01-25 19:23:25
Post by: mitzmitra on 2016-01-27 07:34:43
The bow of the upper lip should be more focused to the middle and very decent. You could try to indicate the lower lip with a small line.
sorry for the delay, just did some work ;)
here it is! just tell me if you have more modification in mind about this, i want this to be perfect :D
https://goo.gl/photos/NZzHT4vkHrLti1kQ7
Post by: Kaldarasha on 2016-01-27 16:07:40
sorry for the delay, just did some work ;)
here it is! just tell me if you have more modification in mind about this, i want this to be perfect :D
https://goo.gl/photos/NZzHT4vkHrLti1kQ7
No problem. I changed it a bit, but he does look pretty good now.
(http://i.imgur.com/4F2l46v.png)
Post by: mitzmitra on 2016-01-27 17:01:48
Post by: mitzmitra on 2016-01-28 12:03:32
Post by: Kaldarasha on 2016-01-29 05:31:46
what's next :D
I'll send you the textures. I need the eyes closed. Please make also half closed eyes. Oh and I need a makeup version of these textures for the Wallmarket.
Post by: mitzmitra on 2016-01-29 09:54:30
I'll send you the textures. I need the eyes closed. Please make also half closed eyes. Oh and I need a makeup version of these textures for the Wallmarket.
oh, i forgot about the close eyes.. so you need half closed and closed completely for smooth framing? i got excited for that cross-dressed cloud hahahaha
EDIT:
oh i was wondering what this karma means? it keeps going up.. what is it for?
EDIT:
here it is
eye half closed - https://goo.gl/photos/ZSFRrruFwqZb6Q7S8
eye closed - https://goo.gl/photos/grRagEsTqMksrtnn9
Post by: Kaldarasha on 2016-01-29 14:59:10
Post by: mitzmitra on 2016-01-29 18:57:32
Sadly the game only use closed and opend eyes. Maybe it's hackable (for the most characters exist two closed eyes but only one is really needed. Barrett is the only one who needs two eyes, because of his scars), but I don't know how. I look to the textures later. Atm they look pretty good.
ohhh.. ok just tell me if you need anything.. ;)
Post by: New Pagodi on 2016-02-01 01:47:18
Post by: olearyf2525 on 2016-02-01 20:30:04
oh, i forgot about the close eyes.. so you need half closed and closed completely for smooth framing? i got excited for that cross-dressed cloud hahahaha
EDIT:
oh i was wondering what this karma means? it keeps going up.. what is it for?
EDIT:
here it is
eye half closed - https://goo.gl/photos/ZSFRrruFwqZb6Q7S8
eye closed - https://goo.gl/photos/grRagEsTqMksrtnn9
Karma means someone likes your posts, it's basically your site reputation points. I gave you karma a few times because you're doing nice work.
Post by: Kaldarasha on 2016-02-01 20:35:13
Karma means someone likes your posts,
This reminds me on something.
Here are the files I made from your textures:
https://mega.nz/#!XRdhETxL!uphHLr_3HzICQTE4oDUXAuG11PBtQEC2N99mMcdROk4
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Since there's 3 levels of makeup bonuses that Cloud
Three? Are you sure? I could swear it's only one.
Post by: New Pagodi on 2016-02-01 21:13:28
Quote from: Kaldarasha
Three? Are you sure? I could swear it's only one.
According to this (http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Honey_Bee_Inn), there are 3 levels:
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After visiting a room the player can get make-up put on them by a girl in the dressing rooms. If the player talks enough times to the girl on the far left, they will get an option to ask the girl to apply make-up on Cloud. The success of the make-up work is random and the only clue to how good a make-up work the player got is the sound effect that plays when the girl does it. The sound of wind blowing gives the best result, increasing Cloud's chances of being picked by Don Corneo the most, but this is also the rarest outcome. Other outcomes are a simple bleep sound (the worst result) and a sound like being cured (the second best option). Dummied text unearthed from the game suggests that the player would have originally been able to choose which kind of make-up they want to have.
I know I've heard 2 of those sounds.
Post by: mitzmitra on 2016-02-02 13:17:40
Karma means someone likes your posts, it's basically your site reputation points. I gave you karma a few times because you're doing nice work.
ooohh.. thanks about that.. much appreciated ;D
This reminds me on something.
Here are the files I made from your textures:
https://mega.nz/#!XRdhETxL!uphHLr_3HzICQTE4oDUXAuG11PBtQEC2N99mMcdROk4
Three? Are you sure? I could swear it's only one.
i will research about that later and will create crappy makeups to real girl makeups ;D
Post by: mitzmitra on 2016-02-02 14:13:16
update:
i adjusted the eyebrow so that he wont look fierce.. the image below my edited eye is the basis of the makeup ;D
(http://i.imgur.com/OAzIDeL.png)
if this is ok, i will send it to you :-P
Post by: Kaldarasha on 2016-02-02 17:44:20
Post by: mitzmitra on 2016-02-02 20:53:58
Leave the eyebrow as it is. Cloud has no fun with the whole action after all. Besides I think that the real joke is the makeup with cloud's expression.
ohhh ok i'll edit it later, is the make up ok? gonna make the other eye if it's ok :D
Post by: Luigi Brosse on 2016-02-03 11:09:07
Post by: Kaldarasha on 2016-02-03 16:02:03
Post by: mitzmitra on 2016-02-03 22:05:15
I really like the make up touch :)
thanks sir!
I think you are free with the choice of the makeup. Iprobablyneed a childish version of Cloud's eyes for his children models. I guess the next model will be Barrett.
ok sir.. so what should be the difference beween adult cloud's eyes and childish cloud eyes?
i'm excited to do the barret one :D
Post by: Kaldarasha on 2016-02-04 14:26:32
Here is a list:
- Cloud 8 years: Kind look, eyebrows with a pregnant bow, brown eyes
- Cloud 14 years: Less kind, eyebrows with only a slight bow, brown eyes
- Cloud as ShinRa soldier: Strong look, brown eyes (actually we could use the current texture but with brown eyes)
- Cloud as Soldier: Strong look, blue eyes with more sparkle as normal eyes would have
Post by: mitzmitra on 2016-02-08 00:55:03
cloud make up
https://goo.gl/photos/2Z9PaAzwqYizCivbA
cloud child
https://goo.gl/photos/qz5xBWCZizjbPZVPA
cloud shinra infantry
https://goo.gl/photos/Jz3KxC9RnpxN4bi97
;D ;D ;D
Post by: Kaldarasha on 2016-02-12 07:29:55
Post by: mitzmitra on 2016-02-20 14:01:32
https://goo.gl/photos/2SZfPdWusFDNvwoy5