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Title: Final Fantasy X and X-2 are prequels to Final Fantasy VII
Post by: Topher on 2003-05-31 07:57:59
According to the Final Fantasy X-2 Ultimania Guidebook (and Nojima himself), Final Fantasy X and Final Fantasy X-2 are prequels to Final Fantasy VII.

Here's an online excerpt from the book: (EDIT It's in Japanese)
http://gameonline.jp/news/2003/05/30013.html
Title: Final Fantasy X and X-2 are prequels to Final Fantasy VII
Post by: Qhimm on 2003-05-31 16:33:06
Heh, interesting thought. I took the liberty of translating the first paragraphs, for those that are not fluent in Japanese language:

Quote from: gameonline
2003-05-30 (friday) 19:46
FF X-2 Ultimania - A connection between Shinra-kun and Shinra company?

From the staff interview in the "Final Fantasy X-2 Ultimania" which goes on sale tomorrow, we'd like to notify you about this rather eye-catching portion.

-- Does Shinra-kun have any connection to Final Fantasy VII?
Nojima: Actually, yes. Shinra-kun left the Seagulls, but received vast financial support from Rin and was using the otherworldy Vegnagun to extract Mako energy. In that age, however, the system to utilize that energy was far from perfected, but at some distant point in the future people people will have become skilled at it, and at some other point the Shinra company will be there... something like that.

(...)

Of course, I make no claims that this is properly translated (largely because I haven't played FFX-2...), so if you spot any errors just point them out.
Title: Final Fantasy X and X-2 are prequels to Final Fantasy VII
Post by: Topher on 2003-06-01 00:56:20
Thanks, Qhimm, that's a better translation that what I could do.
Another connection is that Shinra calls the Makô energy "the blood of the planet", just like in FFVII.

I found this on the GameFAQs SquareSoft Board:

-- Is there a connection between Shinra and FFVII?

Nojima: Yes, actually. After Shinra quit the Gullwings he got enormous financial backing from Rin and went to the Farplane to start extracting the Mako energy used by the Vegnagun. But the system for utilizing this energy could not be completed in his generation, so far in the future when space travel was possible, the Shinra Company was founded on another planet... or something like that. That would be a thousand years or so from this game's story.

-- And VII's story takes place after that?

Nojima: Well, you could say that's how I personally feel about it.
Title: Final Fantasy X and X-2 are prequels to Final Fantasy VII
Post by: Qhimm on 2003-06-01 09:43:36
Oh yes, I forgot the last sentence about the thousand years... One thing that perplexed me was the use of "hoshi" (star), so I took a guess and translated it as "point in time", but I guess the concept of space travel could fit better. Puzzling though that Shinra should be founded on another planet, one where they don't have space travel :)
Title: Final Fantasy X and X-2 are prequels to Final Fantasy VII
Post by: Sir Canealot on 2003-06-01 10:35:53
Pfft. BS. If this is true I'll remove FFX and FFX-2 from the FFVII timeline just like I've done with Star Wars Ep1/2.

Although.. if it is true... WHERE IN TIME DID THEY LOST ABOUT 500000 POLYGONS AND BECOME SO DAMN KAWAI? (or not)
Title: Final Fantasy X and X-2 are prequels to Final Fantasy VII
Post by: eerrrr on 2003-06-01 10:49:12
Lol, so if it's the same world where are all those... what are they called, little glowing things from the dead (Pyros?) in FFVII? I doubt 1000 years would alter the way you die...

Unless the farplane is in some way the lifestream.
Title: Final Fantasy X and X-2 are prequels to Final Fantasy VII
Post by: Lieron on 2003-06-01 14:47:54
hmm... as realted to the upper posts, it said that he WENT TO THE FARPLANE.... so maybe thats why, but i guess there would be even more floating thigns there... and then who were the ancients then? i thought they lived like 5000 yrs before ff7
Title: Final Fantasy X and X-2 are prequels to Final Fantasy VII
Post by: Topher on 2003-06-01 17:02:29
It would seem that, if in fact the Spirans were the Cetra, they existed less that 1,000 years prior to Final Fantasy VII.

According to Nojima, there is around 1,000 years between the end of Final Fantasy X-2 and the beginning of Final Fantasy VII. If, like I mentioned above, I am correct in assuming that the Cetra were the Spirans, travelling from planet to planet, studying and collecting Makô energy, then the following timeline (taking into account texts from Final Fantasy VII itself) should be fairly accurate.
Title: Final Fantasy X and X-2 are prequels to Final Fantasy VII
Post by: Sir Canealot on 2003-06-01 18:41:42
Quote
He states that they moved from planet to planet, using an amount of the Makô energy the planet provides


Umm.. are you sure about that? As I've read it a dozzen times they move around from place to place on the Planet not from planet to planet.
Title: Final Fantasy X and X-2 are prequels to Final Fantasy VII
Post by: Qhimm on 2003-06-01 20:23:51
Uhm no, it's definitely other planets...
Title: Final Fantasy X and X-2 are prequels to Final Fantasy VII
Post by: Sir Canealot on 2003-06-01 20:26:49
I'll have to play though FFVII again... not that I trust the USA Psx version I'm trying to play (diffrent script to PC Version).

I've been planing to note down EVERYTHING that dosent make sense about FFVII as I go though the game and post it on here anyway :D
Title: Final Fantasy X and X-2 are prequels to Final Fantasy VII
Post by: Rubicant on 2003-06-02 01:03:47
I just love the way they attempt to link a crappy portion of the series (FFX) to FF7. It's interesting, but some things should just remain a mystery (the origin of the cetra).
Title: Something's fishy
Post by: Sinister Heaven on 2003-06-02 16:06:06
It doesn't end up at all... Even the world map is totally different, and so much doesn't change in 1000 years. Besides... The last full Ancient (Ifalna) died when Aeris was 6... Aeris during FF7 was 22, so she died about 16 years ago...

You are NOT going to tell me the last Ancient BEFORE Ifalna died more than 984 years BEFORE that... So where are the Cetra in FFX?

Rufus stated somewhere that his father created Shinra. His dad ain't no whooping thousand years old.

Somewhere in Wutai somebody (could be yuffie herself) said Wutai was hundreds of years old... Wouldn't there be traces of it then in FFX?

And where is the Northern Crater? jenova created that when falling from space... Calamity From The Stars, remember?

It all just doesn't connect, and I agree with Rubicant this is a sorry attempt to get some more depth into a disappointing game like FFX... And FFX-2, for that matter.
Title: Final Fantasy X and X-2 are prequels to Final Fantasy VII
Post by: Topher on 2003-06-02 16:20:38
You're forgetting one thing... Final Fantasy X and Final Fantasy VII take place on two different planets.
Title: Final Fantasy X and X-2 are prequels to Final Fantasy VII
Post by: Threesixty on 2003-06-02 16:50:38
You could even link FF9 with FF7 if you look hard enough....

Wasn't the world called Gia in FF9 and Terra was the other world in FF9. The world where (forgot the main character's name) Zidane was created?

Terra could have been the planet from FF7...


...Think anyone can make any sense, out of "Kingdom Hearts"? :)
Title: Final Fantasy X and X-2 are prequels to Final Fantasy VII
Post by: Qhimm on 2003-06-02 16:53:42
The connection between FFX and FFVII should in no way be seen as definite or "official", it is merely an interesting what-if scenario Nojima amused himself with while drawing up some story elements for FFX. It was never meant to fit perfectly into FF7, rather a thought that it could have been something like this. If you really need to draw parallels, think of it as Nojima's tribute to the FFVII story, feeling it was so unique he incorporated similar elements into FFX-2.

However, with some work, I'm sure it could be made to fit into FFVII. I'm just not sure it would be worth it, as it would probably degrade the integrity of both storylines. For example, the following points are hard to dispute:
Title: Indeed...
Post by: Sinister Heaven on 2003-06-02 18:27:43
I agree with you there as it being Nojima's tribute or something alike that.

I'm a type of guy that says: Let Final Fantasy stand on it's own... Do not combine different parts together as one... Each has their own sense of reality and possibilities, and it would be a shame if all, or some, could be linked together... It would remove the word 'Final' in Final Fantasy...
Title: Final Fantasy X and X-2 are prequels to Final Fantasy VII
Post by: ye-roon on 2003-06-02 21:31:10
damn i gotta learn japanese :/
Title: Final Fantasy X and X-2 are prequels to Final Fantasy VII
Post by: ye-roon on 2003-06-04 20:50:04
btw when i try to read that site i get all sorts of weird signs, but not japanese signs.....

can someone point me out so that i see the japanese signs ??

i use win2k
Title: Final Fantasy X and X-2 are prequels to Final Fantasy VII
Post by: Caddberry on 2003-06-04 22:26:28
to the best of my knowlege it depends on the browser your using.. use internet explorer, and have the japanese language pack installed.. same with other languages.. if you cant see the characters and get weird glyphs you dont have it installed and you need to do so..
Title: Final Fantasy X and X-2 are prequels to Final Fantasy VII
Post by: The SaiNt on 2003-06-06 08:55:23
Quote from: Qhimm

  • If the Spirans instead came to FFVII's planet long after the Cetra, but still long enough for people to forget their heritage, it could explain the rather advanced Mako technology Shinra uses. However, would the space travel technology so easily be forgotten? (remember, Shinra still struggles with simple rockets). It is unlikely that the people of FFVII are all aliens and just happened to "forget" every single detail about their rather recent (much less than 1000 years ago) origin.
    • [/list:u]


Provided the Spirans need to use spacecraft to travel.
They could very well use "magic" to create portals.
With the emphasis of technology, magic is forgotten so they cannot travel to other planets anymore?

Wait a second...that sounds like FF6.


On second thought, could the Cetra & Spirans be a single race with different emphasis? Like the Cetra were more of the "magic" kind of people while the Spirans were more technology oriented?
Title: n00bie with a theory
Post by: BrokenAntiMatter on 2003-06-07 08:30:52
:love: i have an idea

FF7:
it says in ff7 that there are other planets
it also says the cetra have unknown origins and that the came from the earth and will return from the earth it never ends
when a person dies they are sent back to the earth until they can be reborn

FF10:
It says in ff10 that aeons come from heaven(many retarded races refer to outerspace as heaven)
In ff10 people are sent to heaven(another world)


My Theory:
Perhaps the people of ff10 are sent to the ff7 makostream when they die
Perhaps the summoners/holy people are sent to the planet to live
If this was true then the summoners/holy people (those who rejected mecha) became the cetra (there technology and housing structers are similiar in many ways.
The unholy/comman people came forth from the mako stream later in time. They used also kept their former knowledge. This would explain why some places in ff7 have super advanced technology(midgar/zanarkand) others have some (midell and corel/al-bhed race) and those with none (costa de rica and cosmo canyon/all those little crappy places in ff10)


ff9 takes place after ff8
(many refrences are given to ff4/ff8/ff7)
ff8 takes place after ff7
(it just does)
ff7 takes place after ff6
(the technological advances of all the towns and technology brought on by mako can be show in ff7 where ff6 places still function technology is old ect)
Title: Re: n00bie with a theory
Post by: Rubicant on 2003-06-07 15:21:34
Quote from: BrokenAntiMatter
ff9 takes place after ff8
(many refrences are given to ff4/ff8/ff7)
ff8 takes place after ff7
(it just does)
ff7 takes place after ff6
(the technological advances of all the towns and technology brought on by mako can be show in ff7 where ff6 places still function technology is old ect)


I'm sorry, but you're dead wrong on that one. It's not a continuing series. I could almost buy the whole "ff8 after ff7" thing, considering on the back cover of ff8(psx) it says "an epic story based on the theme of love, set in a massive new world". Perhaps the people on the ff7 planet finally got their act together (500+ years later) and started back up with civilization. Their skinny-elbow arms grew into polygon-rich limbs. But where's the midgar ruins in ff8? ff9? If these games are in the same world, then the time where the games take place must be tens of thousands of years apart. Still..no way.

I actually could probably buy "ff7 after ff6". In both games, some idiots are trying to synthesize magic. And in the end it comes back and bites them in the ass. Considering at the end of ff6
Spoiler: show
the entire world is left in shambles, and magic is eliminated
, it would make sense that after a hundred or so years the story in FF7 could happen. But where do the cetra come in? And that's where you realize that they can't be linked. FF7 seems to be a "lighter side" of FF6, if you think about it. Let's combine Sephiroth and Kefka for a second. We'll call them "Lenny". In FF7 Lenny attempts to destroy the world for his own powers, but manages to fail. In FF6, Lenny
Spoiler: show
 manages to screw up the world, and ends up becoming powerful, but fails in the end
. So I might consider that FF7 is almost a FF6 remake. Do you?

FF8 and FF9 are in no way linked whatsoever. FF9 was more of a mixture of several of the FF games into one. FF9 was more similar to FF7 than anything else, however. To be honest, the way the story was presented in FF9 kind of made FF7 make sense to me.

And please, people, there is no way in hell that FF9 is in the same world as FF4. Except for wooden-style airships, of course. But do you see any stupidly-clothed idiots leading a party of blind fools to defeat some big bad guy in both FF9 and FF4? Of course you do! But that doesn't make them equal. But let's face it, Cecil looks like a total fruit after
Spoiler: show
turning into a paladin
. Zidane just belongs in a zoo, period.

By the way, AntiMatter, have you even played any of these games you're talking about? It kind of sounds like you don't.
Title: Final Fantasy X and X-2 are prequels to Final Fantasy VII
Post by: BrokenAntiMatter on 2003-06-08 03:40:40
ff9 and ff4 are the same world you fru weapons/people/items/events that occur in ff4 are found in ff9 and it relates them all to ff4 and zidane even mentions squall and cloud in ff9.

FF7 does have alot of the same story and places

the divine yevon/cetra who i pointed out are magic users from ff10/ff7
could be the thasma people from ff6 and espers/summons/aeons could all be the same.

the world of ruin bears some major resemblence to ff7
(given the time period you have to include some continetal drift, flooding, volcanic activity  a possible iceage)

ff8 follows alot of the same land mass as ff7
(given the time period you have to include some continetal drift, flooding, volcanic activity, possible nuclear winter and green house effect)
Title: Final Fantasy X and X-2 are prequels to Final Fantasy VII
Post by: Aaron on 2003-06-08 03:42:11
I think it makes more sense if you just say they're all on different worlds and not connected, cause thats how it seems to be intented to be interpreted anyway.  Although making up theories from the facts available can be interesting.
Title: Final Fantasy X and X-2 are prequels to Final Fantasy VII
Post by: Rubicant on 2003-06-08 06:30:21
No! Every game in the series rips each other off in some stupid little way. If it even WAS an ongoing series on the same planet there would be some sort of menion of events that had recently happened in the previous game. With a series that hardly changes as it is, it really is hard to be original like they are. It would be really interesting if the games were interconnected, but there are too many differences.

FF9 is just a bunch of the pieces of the series put together in an interesting way. Nothing more.
Title: Final Fantasy X and X-2 are prequels to Final Fantasy VII
Post by: KojiroTakenashi on 2003-06-19 19:24:23
FF does have a very loose timeline, but never on the same planet, and here's why:

FF5 takes you across three different Worlds...maybe more, never played it. The first two get blown to hell, I think.

I would go into my whole FF-series loose connection theory, but I'm too tired for it right now. It's a couple pages long.
Title: Final Fantasy X and X-2 are prequels to Final Fantasy VII
Post by: Rubicant on 2003-06-20 00:11:23
FF5 takes place in the same damn world the entire time. It goes like this:
Spoiler: show
The world was split into 2 so that Galuf and his pals could seal Exdeath into the world that the main character is from. But towards the end, the two worlds merge together to become the real world.
This happened because Exdeath did something extremely magical...can't entirely remember. I should play it again.
Title: Final Fantasy X and X-2 are prequels to Final Fantasy VII
Post by: tekwiz99 on 2003-06-20 01:16:56
i got bored in the part where you have to get on to that pirate ship. i kept circle around in the front cave and never realized its time for abording the ship  :o
Title: Final Fantasy X and X-2 are prequels to Final Fantasy VII
Post by: Rubicant on 2003-06-20 04:44:02
That's a shame. The game actually does shape up a bit. I played FF5 when I was like 12, so it must've been a ton  more magical then. It still is magical. But tons of people don't like it...still don't know why.

YOU CAN'T EXPECT SOMETHING AS GOLD AS FF7 TO APPEAR EARLIER IN THE SERIES!! This goes for all games. All this week I played metroid for the nes. It was hard as hell, but I have managed to actually get somewhere in it. I recently have started playing super metroid for the snes. The overall concept is the same, but super metroid definately takes the good concept that metroid(nes) had to a higher level.
Title: Final Fantasy X and X-2 are prequels to Final Fantasy VII
Post by: Caddberry on 2003-06-20 20:42:58
When you think series are linked or not take a broader stance on the world..

The earth can not be the only life sustaining planet in all of space.. I would say space is too vast for that.. though i dont know if i believe space is infinite.. Time can recycle.. Say that long long ago.. we got to a technological point that the earth was pretty advanced .. then someone set somethign off that destroyed everything.. if you believe in evoloution to a certain extent.. things could have naturally been reborn.. trees would grow back.. and a populous would resurface.. you can make a time line out of anything.. FF7 you could say came before 8.. and 9 could be after after 8.. FF8 had very advanced technology.. whos to say that something like this didnt occur.. and time just sort of started again..

Take it back to our world.. the Atomic bomb can destroy a city.. well more than a city.. the Hydrogen bomb can take out more than that.. i heard.. dont you think that sometime they will develope somethign to take out a country.. perhaps not blow it up.. but some sort of virus perhaps.. or something.. man kind just cant leave things alone.. we have to keep advancing.. its just the way it is.. Some day.. it may be our demise..

Just a thought..
Title: Final Fantasy X and X-2 are prequels to Final Fantasy VII
Post by: Deamon on 2003-06-24 07:01:37
Note to Rubicant: Games are often better than thier future counterparts.
But not FF5.  

FF5 has all kinds of cons and a single plus:

PRO
- An awe inspiring class-changing system with a secret class

CONS
- Serious lack of a decent storyline
- Character name: "Butz"? Why!?!?
- Annoying character swap between Galuf and Cara.  (Who'd of thought that a simple charm like that would give me the EXACT stats of grandpa?)
- Music that will drive you to kill faster than Exdeath
- Horrible storyline: "What they're sisters!?!?" "Well, there's not much else to do... we might as well travel to another world to fight Exdeath."

Alright, so truthfully it just lacks a storyline and tries to cover it up with a class changing system.



Quote from: BrokenAntiMatter
ff9 and ff4 are the same world you fru weapons/people/items/events that occur in ff4 are found in ff9 and it relates them all to ff4 and zidane even mentions squall and cloud in ff9.


You have yet to point out a single weapon/person/item/event that is common.  FF9's eidolons don't seem to have a special summon world found near the dwarves underground.

Quote from: BrokenAntiMatter
FF7 does have alot of the same story and places

the divine yevon/cetra who i pointed out are magic users from ff10/ff7
could be the thasma people from ff6 and espers/summons/aeons could all be the same.


Don't own a PS2, but the magic of the Espers is wiped out after the battle with Kefka, ref: Terra became fully human; end scene FF6

Quote from: BrokenAntiMatter
the world of ruin bears some major resemblence to ff7
(given the time period you have to include some continetal drift, flooding, volcanic activity  a possible iceage)


I look just like James Bond after some continetal drift, flooding, volcanic activity and a possible iceage.


Quote from: BrokenAntiMatter
ff8 follows alot of the same land mass as ff7
(given the time period you have to include some continetal drift, flooding, volcanic activity, possible nuclear winter and green house effect)


No.  But, before I point out an improbability on the side of FF8, I must bring up the point that any connection of FF games that occurs AFTER FF7 is fallable; FF7 has two endings!

In FF8 the world was CLEARLY created by the great Hyne.  Then the world had always been infested\blessed by the presence of sorceresses.  Don't try and tell me that good ole' Sepy was not only a woman, but a sorceress!

You need more proof to even TRY and bridge a gap between any FF games.

Edit by Jari: Made a single post out of two posts.

Deamon: Nice post. But please, try to avoid consecutive posts, single (even bit longer) post is preferred format here.
Title: Final Fantasy X and X-2 are prequels to Final Fantasy VII
Post by: Rubicant on 2003-06-24 07:26:58
Quote from: Deamon
Note to Rubicant: Games are often better than thier future counterparts.


Yeah, it may have seemed I meant that, but I worded it wrong. Very wrong. People all of a sudden "play" one of the earlier games in the series and say it "sucks" because it wasn't like their precious ff7. They say it "sucks" because of the graphics, or some stupid shallow reason. Yes, usually the earlier games in series are better. But you just can't compare the earlier games to the newers ones, because the newer ones will usually have some sort of advantage, such as funding, console capabilities, etc..

I don't know wtf I was saying back there..must've been in a sleepy stupor.

Quote from: Deamon
No.  But, before I point out an improbability on the side of FF8, I must bring up the point that any connection of FF games that occurs AFTER FF7 is fallable; FF7 has two endings!


What two endings? Am I missing something?
Title: Final Fantasy X and X-2 are prequels to Final Fantasy VII
Post by: Lieron on 2003-06-24 16:51:23
yah i was wondering about that
Title: Final Fantasy X and X-2 are prequels to Final Fantasy VII
Post by: Threesixty on 2003-06-24 18:30:27
Deamon....quit making shiiiii..stuff up... You now damn well that FF7 has no ending.  :roll:
Title: Final Fantasy X and X-2 are prequels to Final Fantasy VII
Post by: Mofokubik on 2003-06-24 18:47:31
Whats ff7's normal ending? pm it to me, because i have 2 videos on my computer, and they are supposed to be 2 other endings besides the one you normally get...
Title: Final Fantasy X and X-2 are prequels to Final Fantasy VII
Post by: Qhimm on 2003-06-24 18:57:54
Ehm, what? I've never heard nor found anything about a second ending... I somehow doubt you have either. The ending cinema is split up into two or three segments, that's about as divided as it gets.
Title: Final Fantasy X and X-2 are prequels to Final Fantasy VII
Post by: Rubicant on 2003-06-24 19:18:25
It must be "ending3.avi" that you must be thinking of, Mofokubik. It is shown after the credits. And that cinematic takes place "500 years later".

Please enlighten us on this "second ending", deamon  :lol:
Title: Final Fantasy X and X-2 are prequels to Final Fantasy VII
Post by: Contra on 2003-06-24 19:28:19
*nods* Yes, please. I've beat FFVII 17 1/2 times, sifted through the videos on the cd, and on the PSX version, read the script ripped out of both of them, and I have never seen an ending besides the one. Care to explain?

O_o

Contra. Cerubedo, the blue-haired U.R.T.V.
Title: Final Fantasy X and X-2 are prequels to Final Fantasy VII
Post by: Mofokubik on 2003-06-24 19:45:33
One of the endings is the life stream comes and saves midgar, or something like that so I assume thats the normal one. Another one shows after the fight, red and red's kids are running up a mountain, and see a view of midgar years after seph was destroyed, and midgar had plants growning all over it.

I havent beat ff7 yet...care to know why? I got up to the last disc, then  I couldnt find it. Damn you disc 4!!!! I still dont know where it is...
Title: Final Fantasy X and X-2 are prequels to Final Fantasy VII
Post by: Threesixty on 2003-06-24 20:03:29
????Now I'm totally confused......

Who's who? (Mofokubik=Deomon?)

I thought some "newbie" named Deomon was going to be doing the explaining.

There is only one ending....it's split into three FMV's. Why? because of the infamous third battle between Cloud and Sephiroth....it's in between the first and second ending movies, and then there is the final conclusion after the credits. And all three of these FMVs together, don't tell you what happened to Cloud and the others.

As for you missing final CD.....hmm....
Title: Final Fantasy X and X-2 are prequels to Final Fantasy VII
Post by: Faeranicus on 2003-08-14 02:34:30
Here's my thoughts on a few of the ff games that I've played


I never really got into the first 6, though I'm sure they are good games (If tactics comes out on PC I'll buy it).

FF7 - Great game for its age, still fun to play. Materia system is kind of annoying though.

Downsides -
Buggy PC Version
Graphics are ok, even for its time.
Materia system, I just dont like it

FF8 - Great graphics for its time, the first disc was great, 2nd was ok, and I stopped playing when space came into the idea. (I'm playing through it now, I just finished dollet but I won't quit when space crap comes into play).

Downsides -
Plot is pretty strange
Love story (bleh)
Space crap

FF9 - I first saw this game and said "oh my god... these characters look like sh!t". Honestly, I really couldn't get into the game, it had a feeling that I was supposed to be ages 6-10 to play it. I really didn't like it... at all. I got to what a friend says was "one of the last 2 or 3 battles" before I took it back (rented).

FF10 - Never played it, heard it was 50% cinimatics...

If square was more open to people, they would continue releasing PC versions... but I guess I have to wait for ff11 or ff12... the MMORPG
Title: Final Fantasy X and X-2 are prequels to Final Fantasy VII
Post by: Rubicant on 2003-08-14 07:22:41
FF9 isn't that bad. It LOOKS like a little kid's game, but it just is definately...um.."unique" amongst the other FF's.

In my opinion, FFX is okay to play through the first time, but it definately is a letdown if you are expecting a good game.

FF7 and FF8 I cannot stand anymore because I overthunk about them. Urrghhh...
Title: Final Fantasy X and X-2 are prequels to Final Fantasy VII
Post by: vvalentine on 2003-08-14 07:39:13
Quote from: Faeranicus
but I guess I have to wait for ff11 or ff12... the MMORPG


FFXI is the MMORPG, FFXII is NOT going to be online.  And yeah, I'm currently playing FFXI beta version (in PC of course, and in English not Japanese version). :D
Title: Final Fantasy X and X-2 are prequels to Final Fantasy VII
Post by: Faeranicus on 2003-08-15 22:07:19
How bad is it? I saw screenshots and thought "my god... IT LOOKS WORSE THAN 9!"

If it -does- have a story... it will be the exact same for everyone, so I don't think I'll bother with it...

I mean, if it had a story that all players affected, it would end up being affected by one idiot who played 23 hours a day.. That might end up being me, but nonetheless I dont like the idea.
Title: Final Fantasy X and X-2 are prequels to Final Fantasy VII
Post by: Rubicant on 2003-08-16 20:50:21
It's obvious what they're doing. How else will Square make a profit on this other than give it a place in the Final Fantasy franchise? If it was some bogus name with the square logo, I doubt it would get as much attention as it would with the name Final Fantasy tagging along. It'll probably end up being pretty fun, but mmorpg's really don't spark my tastes anymore.
Title: Final Fantasy X and X-2 are prequels to Final Fantasy VII
Post by: Jait on 2004-01-04 23:36:16
Actually the info in the beginning of this thread is nearly 100% accurate.

BTW You do realize that the Al-Bhed are the Cetra don't you all?


....green eyes....
Title: Final Fantasy X and X-2 are prequels to Final Fantasy VII
Post by: Aaron on 2004-01-05 03:57:26
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