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Title: Aptly named thread about OWA lyrics and Sephiroth
Post by: Rubicant on 2003-06-23 20:13:16: Thrice is a word. And this guy also did post the same message in the "setupx.dll" thread, or whetever it is, in "General". I don't think he means to annoy us. I think he wants to do things that we're suggesting _his_ way.

And in the song, I believe they say... "Cephiros", and not Sephiroth.
Title: Aptly named thread about OWA lyrics and Sephiroth
Post by: Threesixty on 2003-06-23 21:14:03: Well, I don't know what language that is....but when you view the Translated lyrics, it says Sephiroth...and the untranslated lyrics says the same thing.

http://www.nobuouematsu.com/main.html
look in the download pulldown menu.

http://www.nobuouematsu.com/files/owainfo.txt
or just view this, it's from the same source.

I always thought that, that was the true pronunciation of Sephiroth.
Seph-Er-oss, or "Seph-Er-ath"...whatever, it's hard to make out.

Frankly I like saying it as, "Seph-I-roth", myself.)
Title: Aptly named thread about OWA lyrics and Sephiroth
Post by: Rubicant on 2003-06-23 21:33:53: I've listened to 3 sources. I've listened to the individual samples from lb2.sf2 and it sounds like it ends with "ros". I listened to the orchestrated version..same thing. And the psf also sounds like "ros". The name of one of the midi songs included in ff7pc is named "cephiros.mid".
Title: Aptly named thread about OWA lyrics and Sephiroth
Post by: Threesixty on 2003-06-23 21:54:59: Well, it a pretty cool sounding song, regardless.

It's especially cool, when your fighting Sephiroth in Kingdom Hearts. Really sets the mood. His moves, and the soundbytes, really add to that effect, as well.
Title: Aptly named thread about OWA lyrics and Sephiroth
Post by: Anonymous on 2003-06-24 01:56:29: Message
Title: Aptly named thread about OWA lyrics and Sephiroth
Post by: Rubicant on 2003-06-24 03:44:42: Uh..huh...

Well here it is, stripped (http://bin.mypage.sk/FILES/bchoir.wav) right from lb2.sf2.

Sounds like the end of the sample ends with an "S" sound.
Title: Aptly named thread about OWA lyrics and Sephiroth
Post by: Anonymous on 2003-06-24 04:11:56: Message
Title: Aptly named thread about OWA lyrics and Sephiroth
Post by: Rubicant on 2003-06-24 05:29:31: Sorry to beat you to this, Jari, but I had some extra free time to grab a clip (http://bin.mypage.sk/FILES/owa-cephiros1.mp3) from the orchestrated version.

All this thanks to Mirex's server. Expires in one week.

I think it's pronounced like that because maybe that's how they wanted it said for all the versions(language-wise) of the game? They arranged it in Latin maybe so that for once a game wouldn't have japanese-sung words in it (chrono cross, damn them). Because isn't Latin considered the "universal language" in some ways? I mean, living things are classified using Latin words..so..

Or it just sounds cooler, because it plainly does.
Title: Aptly named thread about OWA lyrics and Sephiroth
Post by: Anonymous on 2003-06-24 05:53:53: Message
Title: Aptly named thread about OWA lyrics and Sephiroth
Post by: Qhimm on 2003-06-24 12:00:10: Sephiroth's spelling is a symptom of the same thing that sparked the Aeris/Aerith debate. In Japanese, Sephiroth is written SE-FI-RO-SU, and as Jari says with a silent 'u'. This is not necessarily to indicate an 's' sound, but rather because it's the closest they have for representing an unvoiced 'th' sound. Aeris/Aerith, by comparison, is written E-A-RI-SU.

So the reason they chose Sephiroth and Aeris as the English spellings are simply because they look better than Cefiros and Earith. The chorus, however, was managed by Japanese who most likely just romanized the katakana spellings without much thought. Thus, the exact sounds might not have been entirely accurately represented to our English ears, but probably sounded fine to the Japanese.
Title: Aptly named thread about OWA lyrics and Sephiroth
Post by: Contra on 2003-06-24 19:39:32: Sephira - Hebrew, Number. Pronounced "Sphere-Ah"
Sephirot or Sephiroth - Hebrew, Numbers pronounced "Sphere-Ot"

CON-TRA
(Contra Obey Nobody Technological Ranting Automaton)
Title: Aptly named thread about OWA lyrics and Sephiroth
Post by: Anonymous on 2003-06-24 22:28:15: Message
Title: Aptly named thread about OWA lyrics and Sephiroth
Post by: Rubicant on 2003-07-01 22:22:31: Sorry to raise this one from the ashes, but why did you have to make me look like an ass (http://www.markbarry.com/multimedia/images/donkey.jpg) with such a silly name for a topic? It's been on my chest for awhile...
Title: Aptly named thread about OWA lyrics and Sephiroth
Post by: Anonymous on 2003-07-02 18:30:23: Message
Title: Aptly named thread about OWA lyrics and Sephiroth
Post by: Lieron on 2003-07-02 19:19:46: i thought it was latin... hmmm
Title: Aptly named thread about OWA lyrics and Sephiroth
Post by: Rubicant on 2003-07-02 22:41:01: All right, thanks Jari. I had a feeling the name was your work :)

If for the english version of the game they would have changed the lyrics to english I actually would have been a little irritated. Since it seems that what is said in the song is pretty much nonstop repeating, the song would definately get old....much faster. Because it seems that if you listen to something you don't entirely recognize you will seem to get a better effect from it, and it will become boring (if it does) millions of times slower. Besides, the song sounds so cool in latin!