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Title: FFVII Piano Collections
Post by: eerrrr on 2003-12-03 16:02:06
Odd, it appears to have been released today. Quite sudden, I hadn't heard anything about it.

Anyway, here are some links:
Square-Enix Shop (http://www.square-enix.co.jp/shop/goods/ff7_piano.html) (Japanese)
Advent Children (http://www.adventchildren.net/ff7ac/news/articles/20031031_1.htm) (First english site I found with info)

I'm getting hold of a copy as I write this (:P), so I'll give you a quick review when I'm done.

I'm quite shocked. This must've been released to build the hype for FFVII:AC. Did anyone else know about this? FF's Piano Collections are great, I'm so glad they've finally released one for FFVII!

Update: Well, I've given it a listen, it's great! Makes me feel very nostalgic, I haven't listened to any Final Fantasy music in ages. Although I'm not sure if it's any better than the other Piano Collections, it's hard to say. It sticks fairly close to the originals most of the time, unlike the FFVIII PC where the arrangements were pretty crazy. Not completely though, songs like Fighting and JENOVA have really interesting arrangements.

Gets the thumbs up from me. :D
Title: FFVII Piano Collections
Post by: Qhimm on 2003-12-03 18:58:07
Holy cow!
Title: Holy Mooo!!!
Post by: Nori on 2003-12-03 23:05:26
Gets the thumbs up from me :D

Piano Collections Final Fantasy VII LIVE
Location:
http://smurgen.kj-soft.com/ (SmurgenDorf Radio)
Date & Time:
December 04, 2003
4:30PM (USA Eastern Time)

A special thank to Smurgen (http://forums.qhimm.com/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=402)
Quote from: Smurgen (http://forums.qhimm.com/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=402)
(Note, If the radio is down its because Smurgen was a Lazy Ass, Send him an AOL message to get his bum working!)
Title: FFVII Piano Collections
Post by: Smurgen on 2003-12-03 23:14:27
Yep! from 4:30 till whenever! I'll play FF7 Piano then end it with requests untill everyone dosen't listen to me anymore!
Title: FFVII Piano Collections
Post by: Jedimark on 2003-12-04 07:45:08
Oh nice. This would be a neat christmas present... santa... if you are reading this... -_-
Title: It's been hyped about for a while...
Post by: xeriouxi on 2003-12-04 09:18:58
Hi!

Are you telling me that nobody knew about the Final Fantasy VII piano collections? A thread was started about it's release date in December 2002, and the track listings were released in October 2003. I haven't got it yet, but I will!  :wink:

One thing that I am a bit worried about though is how J-E-N-O-V-A will sound. I wonder if it will be the same worries as when 'The Man with the Machine Gun' was to be orchestrated. Hey... why am I worrying? It's Nobuo Uematsu, here! How dare I doubt his talent!  :weep:

xeriouxi.
Title: Re: It's been hyped about for a while...
Post by: Smurgen on 2003-12-04 10:21:16
Quote from: xeriouxi


One thing that I am a bit worried about though is how J-E-N-O-V-A will sound. I wonder if it will be the same worries as when 'The Man with the Machine Gun' was to be orchestrated. Hey... why am I worrying? It's Nobuo Uematsu, here! How dare I doubt his talent!  :weep:

xeriouxi.


Actually its
Arranged by Shirou Hamaguchi
Performed by Kiyotsugu Honda
Title: Oops... I forgot!
Post by: xeriouxi on 2003-12-04 13:35:07
Hi!

I completely forgot about that. I knew that he was doing it, but forgot when I got caught up in talking about Mr. Uematsu! Oh... isn't his actual name Shiro instead of Shirou?  :-?

xeriouxi.
Title: FFVII Piano Collections
Post by: Smurgen on 2003-12-04 22:09:52
Sorry about being late! work ran a little over...i'll wait till 6:30 PM EST
Title: FFVII Piano Collections
Post by: Qhimm on 2003-12-04 22:10:27
Hmm, I thought Shiro Hamaguchi did a decent job with FF8 piano collections... I kind of expected more from this.
Title: FFVII Piano Collections
Post by: Smurgen on 2003-12-04 22:26:36
If you plan on listening please send me an AOL message
Smurgen69

I wanna know who i have listening so i can play your songs
Title: FFVII Piano Collections
Post by: Caddberry on 2003-12-05 06:16:59
Hmm.. cool thought streaming audio like that.. unfortunately i totally missed this post.. so i didnt get to check it out.. but i got VIII piano collections anyway.. I have been listening to all the FF piano collections on my playlist when i go to sleep.. well all but 6 there are just some in there that i didnt really get into.. bah rambling..
Title: What does J-E-N-O-V-A sound like?
Post by: xeriouxi on 2003-12-08 11:12:51
Hi!

I haven't had the time to go out, buy and listen to the CD yet. Can anybody tell me what J-E-N-O-V-A sounds like? I want to know what they did to it...  :D

xeriouxi.
Title: FFVII Piano Collections
Post by: eerrrr on 2003-12-08 15:04:30
The official link I posted has a sample:

J-E-N-O-V-A (http://www.square-enix.co.jp/shop/goods/sound/jenova.mp3)
Title: FFVII Piano Collections
Post by: Sephiroth2000 on 2003-12-08 16:29:05
I've arranged a piece for this thread last night. It's the Weapon Raid song...
http://www.bin.mypage.sk/FILES/gs_weaponraid.mp3
Enjoy!
Title: FFVII Piano Collections
Post by: Caddberry on 2003-12-09 01:13:31
Quote from: Caddberry
Hmm.. cool thought streaming audio like that.. unfortunately i totally missed this post.. so i didnt get to check it out.. but i got VIII piano collections anyway.. I have been listening to all the FF piano collections on my playlist when i go to sleep.. well all but 6 there are just some in there that i didnt really get into.. bah rambling..


Boy did you ever have a day when you felt retarted? I totally missed the whole point of this thread.. I thought you were all talking about VIII piano not VII .. I have since noticed my error, and am currently getting VII piano collections ^_^   ... At least i know i am human.. ^_^
Title: FFVII Piano Collections
Post by: eerrrr on 2003-12-09 15:50:44
Wow, very nice arrangement there Sephiroth2000! You've got real talent, wish I could play piano (and write/arrange) that well.

Looks like I'm gonna have to take it up again these coming holidays...
Title: FFVII Piano Collections
Post by: atzn on 2003-12-09 22:10:15
Sounds similar to the one that can be found from this url:
http://www.squaresound.com/ff7.shtml

So unless you're (Seph2000) Gigashadow or josh_1...... I won't believe that you've "arranged the weapon raid piece" last night.... instead you're just taking someone elses hardwork and claiming that it's yours.

The filename gave it away anyway; because I do download fan-made piano arrangements.....

Edit - Oh and I realised that you've actually edited the "Arranged by Josh Barron" part and replaced it with "Played by Sephiroth2000 for Qhimm's forum."
Title: FFVII Piano Collections
Post by: Qhimm on 2003-12-10 09:50:42
That site clearly mentions two different people as arranger and performer, and Sephiroth2000 here claims he did it all by himself last night? I hope there's a really good explanation for this, we do not take kindly to stealing people's work and claiming it as your own here.  :evil:
Title: FFVII Piano Collections
Post by: Lieron on 2003-12-10 23:07:12
maybe he has a split personality ) lol
Title: FFVII Piano Collections
Post by: Caddberry on 2003-12-11 21:09:44
Maybe he is uh that person.. It sounds pretty cool, but its not cool to rip other people off..
Title: FFVII Piano Collections
Post by: Smurgen on 2003-12-12 03:46:21
Hmm...no reply defending himself yet.....
Title: FFVII Piano Collections
Post by: Qhimm on 2003-12-17 16:25:12
No reply indeed. Maybe the official warning will raise his attention.

WARNING ISSUED:
User: Sephiroth2000
Severity: Admin's faith in mankind took another hit.
Reason: Apparent theft and copyright infringement.

If you have a good explanation, the warning will of course be lifted. We'll be waiting for that explanation here. Also, if you claim you are the author we will naturally attempt to verify it.
Title: FFVII Piano Collections
Post by: Sephiroth2000 on 2003-12-21 03:45:14
Yes, i am GigaShadow. I never saw anything about a josh_1.

[edit]
Ok, i e-mailed josh_1. He claims HE did it. ABOUT THE LAST NIGHT THING_I rearranged it last night, as the original did not work on this forum. Talk about accusasions... :o
If no-one believes me, that is perfectly understandable. I've been in cases like this before. I'm used to it. So yeah, don't believe me if you don't want to.
Title: FFVII Piano Collections
Post by: atzn on 2003-12-21 09:57:32
Stop lying Seph2000... I think I probably have more than enough evidence to prove that you're NOT Gigashadow or Josh1 for that matter.

Matter of fact, I actually spent some time googling..... and found out that GigaShadow is from England, and Josh1 is from the US. And you're from NZ, and you claim that you're GigaShadow??

Quote
ABOUT THE LAST NIGHT THING_I rearranged it last night, as the original did not work on this forum. Talk about accusasions...


I don't believe it.... because the file name is exactly the same, the file size is exactly the same, and the date is exactly the same. Only difference is the "Josh1" and "Played by Seph2000" part.

Plus, if you're really GigaShadow, why would you need to rearrange the piano sheet?? And I don't understand what you mean by "The original didn't work on this forum".... you're just supposed to play the piano using the arranged piano sheet..... and don't tell me that you have the ability to arrange with the same precision and accuracy like Josh1?
Title: FFVII Piano Collections
Post by: Sephiroth2000 on 2003-12-21 18:30:09
I arranged that when i was IN the UK. I movede to NZ 2 years ago. Are you sure josh_1 played it? I bet it's his version on SquareSounds, because i don't remember ever posting the piece on squaresounds. I haven't rearranged the sheet, either, just replayed it(right choice of words?)and i know it sounds the same, it was off the same sheet as i have stated. As i said, if you don't want to believe me, fine by me. The original version did not work on the forums because of a notice when i tried to access it through the forums that said Unable to locate server(i'm using Opera).
Title: FFVII Piano Collections
Post by: Aaron on 2003-12-21 18:54:36
I think he may have dug himself into a hole here.

Quote from: Seph2000
I've arranged a piece for this thread last night. It's the Weapon Raid song...

Turns out Gigashadow played that song and Josh_1 arranged it, and you can get a copy at http://www.squaresound.com/ff7.shtml .  We know it's the same song, because...

Quote from: FFTactic_Boy
The file name is exactly the same, the file size is exactly the same, and the date is exactly the same. Only difference is the "Josh1" and "Played by Seph2000" part.

There's no way that's a coincidence.  And I'm pretty sure the one on Squaresound was there before the night that Seph2000 "arranged" it.

Quote from: Seph2000
I rearranged it last night, as the original did not work on this forum.

Quote from: Seph2000
The original version did not work on the forums because of a notice when i tried to access it through the forums that said Unable to locate server(i'm using Opera).

It was giving you a server error when you tried to post it, and to fix it, you took it and rearranged it?  Hmm...

Quote from: Seph2000
Are you sure josh_1 played it? I bet it's his version on SquareSounds, because i don't remember ever posting the piece on squaresounds. I haven't rearranged the sheet, either, just replayed it(right choice of words?)and i know it sounds the same, it was off the same sheet as i have stated.

If you replayed it, how come the file size and date are the same as the one on SquareSound?  Even if it was you, there's no way that you would have played it on the night that you originally claimed.  And no, Josh_1 didn't play it, he just arranged it.

I think you're gonna have a hard time convincing anyone that this is your song now.  Or maybe it's just me.
Title: FFVII Piano Collections
Post by: atzn on 2003-12-21 19:29:31
Quote from: Sephiroth2000
I arranged that when i was IN the UK. I movede to NZ 2 years ago.

Yup, that's right.... "you arranged it." You "moved from UK to NZ" 2 years ago.

Like Aaron said, josh1 DID NOT play it, matter of fact he was the one who ARRANGED the piece.

2nd fact: Gigashadow is in UK. Period. If you insist that you've "moved" over to UK, I'll probably contact the REAL (Yes, read: REAL) Gigashadow and I'll see what other explanation you can give. Either that, or I can contact Josh1 to see if you've contacted him or not.

Quote from: Aaron
I think you're gonna have a hard time convincing anyone that this is your song now. Or maybe it's just me.


You're not alone.

Just stop twisting and turning the whole thing and admit your lies Seph2000, before I actually contact the real authors of the song (Which is IMO, great work..), and then I'll see what explanation you can give then.... as I've said, don't force me to.
Title: FFVII Piano Collections
Post by: Sephiroth2000 on 2003-12-22 18:56:24
Quote from: Aaron
It was giving you a server error when you tried to post it, and to fix it, you took it and rearranged it? Hmm...

Yep, that's it. Any reason why it would do that?
Quote from: FFTactic_Boy
Just stop twisting and turning the whole thing and admit your lies Seph2000, before I actually contact the real authors of the song(Which is IMO, great work..), and then I'll see what explanation you can give then.... as I've said, don't force me to.

Go ahead.
Quote from: FFTactic_Boy
Yup, that's right.... "you arranged it." You "moved from UK to NZ" 2 years ago.

I REARRANGED it. Yes, i did move to NZ 2 years ago.[/b][/quote]
Title: FFVII Piano Collections
Post by: Aaron on 2003-12-22 19:32:32
You have yet to answer this... What I wanna know is, if you rearranged it, how come it's the exact same file as the one on that site?

I'll leave FFT_Boy to contact the authors.
Title: FFVII Piano Collections
Post by: atzn on 2003-12-22 19:39:03
I will contact them. Leave this to me.... I had enough of all this crap. If only you admit that you're not GigaShadow, then I'll probably drop this matter. But since you insist that you're GigaShadow, then I will contact the real GigaShadow (Just for everybody's information, he's a member of the Gamingforce Audio boards, registered on May 2003 and HAS ENGLAND as his location in his profile (Oh unless he "forgets that he left UK 2 years ago"), plus he posted the LINKS to SquareSound regarding his work, whereas Seph2000 claims that 'he doesn't remember posting in SquareSound'). I thought these amount of evidence (Plus the file size, name, etc) is enough to convince me that you are lying, unfortunately it isn't. So I will fulfil your wish by contacting them.
Title: FFVII Piano Collections
Post by: sephiroth2045 on 2003-12-22 22:44:35
OMG... look at their god damn emails. They aren't even the same!
Title: FFVII Piano Collections
Post by: Sephiroth2000 on 2003-12-23 07:49:20
Sorry guys, it was all a big lie. My god...I lost most of my skills on piano about three months ago.

edit--
There, i have changed it to how i actually feel.
Title: FFVII Piano Collections
Post by: Sephiroth2000 on 2003-12-23 07:52:52
Tell me honestly, did anyone actually fall for that? The piano idea, i mean. It was quite nostalgic, i used to be able to play the world map theme on the piano and actually have something truthful to brag about. Sadly, no more...
Title: FFVII Piano Collections
Post by: atzn on 2003-12-23 09:20:17
You're *lucky* that I actually didn't reach the real authors of the song yet, or I think a big ruckus might've happened. If you want to pick something to joke on, I would suggest picking on something less serious than stealing others work (Then make a joke out of it) because I am sure everyone deem this as a serious offence.

As for your attempted lies (Or joke would I say?).....

Reductio ad absurdum.

And I'm sorry to hear about your piano skills, but hey I bet at least you're better than me, I stopped after passing my first grade. [Which was years ago]
Title: FFVII Piano Collections
Post by: Qhimm on 2003-12-23 10:37:41
Well, as for the admin of this place, you don't get sympathy, you get...

WARNING ISSUED:
User: Sephiroth2000
Severity: Smart people can act stupid, but stupid people can't act smart.
Reason: Admitted theft and copyright infringement, and trying to downplay it by pretending it to be a joke, and finally trying to turn the shown good faith of the other members into them being stupid for not calling you a liar from the start.

Well, guess what. Your credibility is now zero on these forums. Well, it probably was the instant you tried to defend yourself in a rather obvious lie, this just formalizes it.

Oh, and most admins would just ban you for posting stolen work, without even listening to your explanation. I on the other hand will keep you around for a while, for the added morale you bring to the place.
Title: !!!
Post by: Nori on 2003-12-23 15:46:05
Sephiroth2000, I think you should apologies :(
Title: FFVII Piano Collections
Post by: Jedimark on 2003-12-23 16:45:03
I’m sure there is a term for people who lie compulsively. I still think you’re lying to be honest. You've invented some rubbish story about how you seem to be testing us to find out how long your lie can go un-noticed, where in reality you are probably just using this as an excuse trying to get out of a corner you've been backed into by people on here. A simple “hands in air” with an apology would have been better for you. Don't forget you are still a relatively new member of these boards and you have a repuation to build up.
Title: FFVII Piano Collections
Post by: Sephiroth2000 on 2003-12-23 17:33:37
1: It wasn't a joke. I had this urge to just try to make my reputation look better by saying i was good. Guess that teaches me. :weep:
2:Yeah, sorry guys.
3:*sticks his hands up in the air and apologises again*

Well, have a good christmas, everyone.
Title: FFVII Piano Collections
Post by: Lieron on 2003-12-24 06:30:22
isn't it spelled apologize? (with a z, not an s)
Title: FFVII Piano Collections
Post by: Sephiroth2000 on 2003-12-24 07:24:17
Can't remember...i'll have to check that one in a dictionary.
Title: FFVII Piano Collections
Post by: Synergy Blades on 2003-12-24 07:32:35
Z in America, S in the UK. :)
Title: FFVII Piano Collections
Post by: Jedimark on 2003-12-24 08:35:41
Yeah replacing S's with Z's is the Americanised spelling.
Title: FFVII Piano Collections
Post by: C819Strife on 2004-01-02 00:07:34
As part of the deceased FFVIIPC project, I am quite upset with Sephiroth2000 for doing such a thing.  I guess most of you know me if you know josh_1; I'm the other half of the project...the one who did Reunion and Cinco de Chocobo.

Sephiroth2000, I would like to take this time to personally highlight what you did and ask you why you felt it was necessary to do these things.  
1) Stealing an arrangment.  now I understand some of the more evil people out there feel it necessary to take another's work and call it there own, but I never dreamed of such a thing within a community such as this or the one on gamingforce.  If you don't want to be an honest person, please do so in another department.  Music is serious stuff and I don't think you'd like it if I, Josh, or the REAL Giga took one of your pieces and said we performed it.
2) False identity.  Now this is just child's play.  I can't believe you would pose as an accomplished pianist and claim to be who you are not.  It really disgusted me that you posed as Giga.  Please rethink your antics in this matter in the future.
3) Reputation.  I really do not understand how stealing a piece and calling it your own may boost one's reputation.  Care to fill me in?

These things have really angered Josh and myself and I'm sure GigaShadow won't be too pleased if he finds out he was framed in such a devious scheme.  I, personally, accept your apology, but I still want answers.  Thank you and I'd like to see you give me some answers.

~C819Strife~
Title: FFVII Piano Collections
Post by: Jedimark on 2004-01-02 19:46:53
C819Strife: He gave his reasons for doing this in his post.

Quote from: Sephiroth2000
1: It wasn't a joke. I had this urge to just try to make my reputation look better by saying i was good. Guess that teaches me. :weep:
2:Yeah, sorry guys.
3:*sticks his hands up in the air and apologises again*

Well, have a good christmas, everyone.
Title: FFVII Piano Collections
Post by: C819Strife on 2004-01-03 16:09:32
eh, fair enough.  just think before you do stuff like that, as it will only get you in trouble in the long run.  as you can see, everyone jumped at you and knew it wasn't your arrangement, so this should teach you how hard it is to get away with something like this.  

also, don't be surprised if you're contacted by josh_1 about this...just letting you know.

and I hope you get your skill back at piano...as a fellow pianist I know how it feels to lose something like piano skill; good luck at trying to get it back :)

~C819Strife~
Title: FFVII Piano Collections
Post by: Caddberry on 2004-01-03 18:50:16
Actually in a "normal" board of this size he probably would have.. but the people here go above and beyond the call of duty to bust liars, and they are very good at what they do.. Ask our older village idiot.. well he's not here anymore, but if he was you could ask him .. LoL