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Hi, I'm residing in Singapore and i just bought ff7 due to the love of the game and must of hesitation
I played in on ps and now was hopping to play on pc again.
after inserting installation disk and clicking on the install link in the welcome screen. nothing happen. Just like it woun't start installation.
May 1 know wats is the problem? Do i have to install win95 just to play the game?
I'm running winxp pro with sp2, intel p4.2.4 and ati 9100.
pls help. :isee:
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Looks like a bad install CD to me ... try copying everything from CD to harddrive and installing from there...
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Addition information i like to add.
I checked from my system task manage and there are 2 process running.
1. wowexec.exe
2.ff7inst.exe
and when i try to terminate the process
'windows 16 sub system might be unstable..blah blah'
thanks for reading again. hope it can help
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Ummmss.. seems a similar problem to me. I end FF7, but the process is still there. I installed the game, and reinstaled again. And now works ok. Try uninstall the game, also, try RegCleaner to erase everything related to FF7 in windows register
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well, he can try that. Nothing to loose. (again, i had the same problem with ff7 in memory when the game was closed, wxp pro)
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Addition information i like to add.
I checked from my system task manage and there are 2 process running.
1. wowexec.exe
2.ff7inst.exe
So, something is installed on system.
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i know your point. But *maybe* the install make some changes into register.
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Addition information i like to add.
I checked from my system task manage and there are 2 process running.
1. wowexec.exe
2.ff7inst.exe
and when i try to terminate the process
'windows 16 sub system might be unstable..blah blah'
thanks for reading again. hope it can help
Yeah wowexec.exe provides support for 16bit applications I think.. so you don't wanna go disableing it.
Is your copy of FFVII a legitimate copy of the game?
Try Windows Compatibility Mode.
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Yah. my copy of FF7 is orginal~ can't find a priated old games theses days too.
wat is windown xp compability mode?
how do i go there?
i did try to set the installer to run in win95 by changing the setting in the property tags. din work too. :isee:
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Oh well that is compatibility mode.
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Do you think it is possible to manually install the game by copying files?
Looking at my FF7 install folder, it looks like most of this stuff is just sitting there on the CD :P (I have the "platinum" edition CD, so I guess it could be different on the other one... my CD also has the 1.02 patch on it in an "Updates" folder, kinda neat.)
And then you'd have to configure the registry as well. Someone could export the registry settings for him.
Anyway, if you wanna try this, create a folder FF7 on your C drive so that you have C:\FF7.
Copy the "data" folder from your FF7 install CD-ROM to this location.
Create a new empty folder called "save" (I think the game will do this for you, actually).
So now you have c:\FF7\data (which has lots of stuff in it) and c:\FF7\save.
Then copy these files from the CD to your FF7 folder:
cdcheck.exe
EIDOS.url
FF7 PC manual.rtf
FF7 ReadMe.txt
ff7.exe
FF7Config.exe
ff7dll.dll
Register.url
SFMAN for AWE32,64 ReadMe.txt
Then take this registry file (http://aaronserv.dyndns.org/!!stuff/ff7.zip) and import it into your registry. Then go to regedit, navigate to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Square Soft, Inc.\Final Fantasy VII
Look on the right, and change the "V" in anything that starts with "V:\" to your CD-ROM drive letter.
The game should now be "installed." Use FF7Config.exe to configure and ff7.exe to play.
[Edit] Fixed broken registry file link.
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problems after problem...
now i mange to install FF7 and got it to run.
but i don see any of its starting videos like the moving squaresoft logo.
all i got is a black screen and only buy pressing ESC i get to the
'New Game'
'Continue' screen.
any idea wats the problem? and wat can i do to get it to work?
Thanks again guys.
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That happens when it can't find the videos. It should be able to find them assuming you have disc 1 in. Which you would need since it can't run without it. You wouldn't happen to be using a no-cd crack or something would you?
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problems after problem...
now i mange to install FF7 and got it to run.
but i don see any of its starting videos like the moving squaresoft logo.
all i got is a black screen and only buy pressing ESC i get to the
'New Game'
'Continue' screen.
any idea wats the problem? and wat can i do to get it to work?
Thanks again guys.
It's because you copied everything to the HDD and installed it *manually* without installing the codecfor the videos. Would help you but I can't remember where to get a working copy of Duck Trumotion Video codec.
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Try the eidos site and get the upside-down video patch. That comes with all the nessicary (i kant spel) codecs, anyway, i'm sure.
oh, just thought of something: Make sure in the registry, that the MoviesPath is either pointed to where you isntalled the movies on your HD (if you did) or its pointed at your cd rom.
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Problem: My movies play upside-down, or my movies don't play at all.
Solution: Download and install the upside-down movie patch here (http://support.eidosinteractive.com/GI/CustomerSupport/patches/PC/final_fantasy7/ff7betap1.exe).
Did you try that?
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I copied all the 4 disk on my hdd.
I have change the registry to datadrive to C.
I read up about something about no diskcrack.
does anyone knows where i can dl it?
and i notice my movie path in the register point to a folder which doesn't exist. cout it be that problem?
Thanks again..for all who bothersss :wink:
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Did you regedit the path for the videos?
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My movie path is C:\final fantasy\Movies
But from wat i check C:\final fantasy\Movies is not pointing to any existing folders.
But i still need to get my hand on the no cd crack first though. :-?
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Uhh, I don't think there is (or you don't need) a no-CD crack.
Anyway, I don't think you can have spaces like that in the registry. I believe you have to put a / before them, but I am not sure. Maybe someone else knows.
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Back to same old problem..
Manage to get the game to run.
burn the data on hdd to a cdrw and all i get is the 'new game'/'continue' screen.
i still see black screens when videos should be.. :isee:
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Make sure the final fantasy folder has no spaces in it and make sure the path in the registry is the same way.
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What you do is go to the registry and change the all your paths to point to your local folders.
Then change the Data Drive to C:\
Then label your drive as FF7DISC1 etc according to the right disc and it should load fine
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Perhaps the UK or US version of FF7 isn't supposed to work on a Japanese/Chinese(im sorry i don't know to much about geography, thats whyu im doing History for GCSES :P )
The same way that the lesser know FF8 Desktop acessories wont work on a non japanese windows system....
Just a thought...you know
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....isn't that install menu thing, an autoload menu?
I don't remember, too much about the installation of FF7, but most games skip the autoload menu, if you type "setup" in windows.
That usually activates the install directly. Could be that the Autoload menu is broken or something. Typing, 'setup', may kick start the install program.
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I reinstalled everything.. smoothly..
check the registry..
everything seem good..
but everytime i run the game all i get is the black screen and after pressing 'esc' do i get the 'New game', 'Continue' screen.
starting a new game do not show me any vids also.
izizt my video card problem?
wat solutions?
Thanks in advance.
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Ask Sephiroth 3D (http://forums.qhimm.com/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=135)
He used to have a similar problem(s)...
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The only things that I know of, is to install the upsidedown patch, and to play the game off of the same cdrom that you installed off of. Because, the path of where the moves are grabbed from are saved in the registery
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Hmmm...could this be linked to the reason I can't play the movies straight from the disc in winamp? all I get is a black screen -_-. .WMP is fine and so is the game...just winamp doesn't like me...hehe
Also, You ARE using official discs arn't you?
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Darkdevil: Get the upside down patch. Oddly enough, it SHOULD let you play the movies in winamp. It's not really a patch for the game, it's just updated codecs.
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Got your PM. All due respects to Nori, I've never had this problem.
My problems have always been about the game crashing after the initial loading of a savegame or a new game.
I wish I could help more, but I'm running win2k, so how my OS deals with problems is different, and every other suggestion I could of made has already been mentioned.
Sorry I couldn't help more...
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I have the same problem as this guy with installation, but I'm trying to get around it using the method described. However, the .reg file is no longer availible, so I can't create the right registry entries for the game. Also, I tried running the movie patch so I could get the right codecs, but that doesn't seem to work. Is there some sort of problem with old isntallation programs and Windows XP? That seems to be the core problem for my installation, anyway, and the patch file is an exe, too. It could just be that the program is looking for registry entries I don't have, so I'm hoping that someone can host the file so I can check it out.
Also, I used to have the game installed on my computer before, back when it was running Windows 98, but I uninstalled it a long time ago. So, the discs I have definately work, and it seems to be a problem with XP. I still have some residual registry entries left over from my old installation, and I don't want to delete them until i can get replacement entries (just in case I can modify existing ones to make it work).
Thanks alot, BTW, I've been looking all over the Net, and this is the one place that has actually suggested any useful solutions to the problem. I would've tried the manual install myself, but I wanted to get an outside opinion/outside help first.
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Something else that's interesting.... according to my Task Manager, whenever I try to run the install program it runs an NTVDM.exe, which is apparently the NT Virtual Mahcine program. I'm running WIndows XP... why is it trying to use an NT program? Maybe someone here know a little bit more about this.
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Well... XP is NT5.1, so I guess it is an NT program. :) ntvdm.exe starts up when a 16-bit process needs to run, and so I would assume the installation program is also 16-bit.
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for the movie path in the registry, im quite sure you need to have a \ at the end of the specified path... also spaces are fine in the path (i know as mine works). If the movies still don't run with the latest codec and the moviepath as i have said (eg: "c:\program files\final fantasy 7\data\movies\" without the quotes) then i havent the faintest idea.
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Well, it's good to know that I have the right Virtual DOS Machine installed :), but I'm still thinking that it might be part of the problem. After all, after running the install program, it loads up ntvdm.exe, and even after nothing happens (meaning that the system does not proceed any further than a waiting cursor which then reverts to normal) this program remains, until I end it manually. In fact, if I try to run the install program again, it will spawn another ntvdm.exe, with the same end result, except now I have 2 copies of the program open, doing nothing (using no CPU, but taking up RAM, obviously to keep the program open).
Another thing I've thought about: Installshield. I've been looking around, trying to figure out if the reason I can't install is because there is something wrong with my InstallShield driver, and I thought I'd finally found something that could fix it, but it didn't pan out. I found a section of the InstallShield support area that dealt with getting an updated version of the program. This page described various solutions for the different versions of the program that were not working, such as one entry which would say: For versions starting with 6: Do This. However, even though the list went from 6-9 and from 2.0 down, there was no entry describing the version that FF7 uses: 5.0. Is this the problem? This file verison is no longer supported? Or maybe it isn't, this might be a blind alley, since it might just mean that this version is supported by all versions of the program.
Again, I'm hoping someone out there has the registry file that someone else mentioned in this post, so I can sidestep the isntall program and do it manually.
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BTW, I copied the files to a folder, and I can get ff7config to work, but when I try to run the game, it goes to black screen then exits. I know I've seen this problem posted before, and I know that (maybe) the way to solve it is to use the video patch, but for some reason that didn't work, and I'm wonering if that might be because I don't have the correct registry entries.
Also, I found this, which could be significant, on Eidos support website. Not quite sure how to implement it in XP though:
Final Fantasy VII - Installation Problems - Errors -113, -105, -115 or -117
I get an error -113 or -105 when trying to install the game.
"Your CD-ROM drive and system is probably running the game in MS-DOS compatibility mode. You need to check Control Panels ??> System ??> Performance. Check File System it needs to be 32-bit. If it is 16 bit then you are running in DOS compatibility mode and need to contact your hardware manufacturer on how to get your system out of MS-DOS compatibility."
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I don't know if registry entires will hurt FF7's operations to that degree. However, you can have this copy of the registry I use to reinstall FF7 (dog chewed up my install disc).
Here it is: FF7.reg (http://bin.mypage.sk/FILES/ff7.reg)
It works if FF7 is installed in "C:\program files\final fantasy VII\"
The movies will have to be located in "C:\program files\final fantasy VII\movies", but you can change that if you run the movies off the CD. Good luck.
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Haha! Success! I had to do some fiddling with the registry file yous upplied, but now I've reached the New Game screen! Still haven't resolved my installation problem, but at elast this takes off some of the urgency.
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Everything is working in-game so far, no errors. Up to Shinra HQ :)
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Well, had my first and only error so far :) It appears I'll need the Chocobo Race patch after all.
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Hello Mage246,
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