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Title: ff8 crash need assistance!
Post by: cloud69 on 2004-06-05 11:21:50
yo peepz
im pretty new to the ff scene and i gotta admit itz a damn addictive franchise. i finished ff9 but i recently bought ff8 on pc, and it kept on crashing on the fmv where the black widow robot thing chased you to the beach and quistis has to minigun it down. i replayed it like 10 timez literally but same shit kept pissing me off. i had to lvl up to lvl 18 or sumthing to get pass dat bit. well after that, it crashed three times in the squall and riona dance fmv b4 i changed da movie quality 2 HIGH and i counldnt believe my luck it actually worked. but now im in timber and da 1st train fmv keeps crashing no matter how i change da settings. i got da latest patch and burnt da image of da disk onto my HD but no luck @ all.
i tried it on two of my comps as well, one bought in 2000 n one bought a month~ ago.

my specs are as follows:

new                                 old
p4 3Ghz                           Celeron 533 Mhz
FX 5900XT                       11MB integrated VGA
512 RAM                          128 RAM
XP pro                             98 SE

ive read bout 80% of these forums but cant find any answers and been tryin for 1 month to get past this bit. i ve just tried bout everyfin even crawled web 4 ages.

Can any one help me?  

BTW can anyone tell me how i can upload my saves into this forum?

thanx

Mod Edit: Don't type in huge fonts. Thanks. - Aaron
Title: ff8 crash need assistance!
Post by: ye-roon on 2004-06-05 13:30:36
You can't upload saves at this forum. Also, try not to use the large font size, evryone here can read normal fonts.

And for your question, i dunno, but what video codecs do u have installed?? (ffdshow, Nemo etc.) Heard a friend that couldn't play movies cause he had installed all different types of codecs.
Title: ff8 crash need assistance!
Post by: Threesixty on 2004-06-06 04:16:12
Usually, the only thing that will cause FF8PC to crash during movies, is a scratched disk......I'd say the copy you bought is bad.

FF8PC really doesn't have any common crashes, like FF7PC does.

I suggest getting a PS2 or a PS1.....or learn how to use ePSXe. All of these options require you to buy the Playstation version of the game. But I would go the PS2 route if I were you.....FF10 alone is worth it. But then there is Xenosaga, Zone of the Ender 2, Shadow Hearts, Kingdom Hearts, Onimusha....and countless others.
Title: ff8 crash need assistance!
Post by: Goku7 on 2004-06-06 05:28:21
I've had this problem before, in my Voodoo3 days, when it came to the low-resolution ending video that had "Eyes on Me" in the background.

And yeah, the hi-res videos worked.  Strangely enough, once I had upgraded to a Voodoo5, I stopped getting the crash.  I'm completely confounded as to why that would fix the problem, especially when the symptoms point to a disc scratch.

-edit-
Just re-read your specs, and I'd guess that you've already tried running it on Win98SE.  Well, there goes my suggestion. :P
Title: ff8 crash need assistance!
Post by: Darkdevil on 2004-06-06 07:18:53
Gah.  Can't read much of that....too...many.....shortened...words >_<
Title: ff8 crash need assistance!
Post by: Relf on 2004-06-06 15:22:47
My suggestion would be to lower your hardware acceleration, it works for some of my ff7 vid problems
Title: ff8 crash need assistance!
Post by: trickstar66 on 2004-06-06 21:29:20
I've had this problem before when I was using an old cd drive (16X) and the CD wasn't being spun fast enough for the videos. I solved my problem by junking the old CD drive for a new one. (52X) I dunno but that's how I solved my problem! I could never get that far though... the drive would stop responding after 30 seconds into the intro and I would have to do a hard shutdown (You know! When you have to unplug the godamn fucking thing from the wall!) the whole system would freeze up! My guess is that the size of the Bink videos are too big for the drive to buffer in time with the processor and thus you get total meltdown.
Title: ff8 crash need assistance!
Post by: cloud69 on 2004-06-12 12:01:31
thanx 4 the help every1
But like i said, i copied the image of the cd using alcohol software so it cant b anything to do with bad or corrupted data

another weird thing came up recently though, i used the ff8fmv utility and every single movie worked perfectly from start to finish so i happily went into the game thinking the problem was somehow fixed. but OMFG it crashed on the exact same spot. going back to watch the movie on bink video, it played for a bit longer until crashing, saying the program "has encountered an error and needs to close" , and then asks me if i would like to send an error report to microsoft. this subsequently happens to every single clip that i try to play after this crash. And when i restart the comp the bink vids work well again but it stuffs all over again when i play the game

can ani1 plz tell me wat the hell is going on?

i mean it looks like only i have this problem. when i bought my new comp this is the first thing that i installed and played. i played ff8 just after i took the comp outta the box until it crashed. >< its killing me!!!

its seems that only the games from the playstation ports to pc, crash on my comp. another example of this is 'chao legion' which i also bought recently and coincidently it crashes randomly during movies as well!!

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Relf Posted: 2004-06-06 15:22    Post subject:  

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My suggestion would be to lower your hardware acceleration, it works for some of my ff7 vid problems
 


do you literally mean that i go into my system propeties and manually lower it?

looks like i have to buy this game... it'll b a hard find

god help me... :(
Title: ff8 crash need assistance!
Post by: Darkdevil on 2004-06-12 12:38:54
Quote from: cloud69
thanx 4 the help every1
But like i said, i copied the image of the cd using alcohol software so it cant b anything to do with bad or corrupted data



Sure it can...IMO alcohol isn't the best for making ISO's

EIther way...Arn't we supposed to tell him we can't help if he doesnt legally own the game?
Title: ff8 crash need assistance!
Post by: Messiah99 on 2004-06-12 18:32:00
The only time I would consider bootlegging a game as acceptable is if at some point you did own the game. (Worn out and scratched discs IMO dont constitute a reason you should repurchase a game, but that is just me) But if he did download it, well man, tis a shame, thats all I'll say, as I have done more than my share of downloading music before.

But as for your problem man, even if you burned from ISO, and the disc that the ISO was made from was corrupt or otherwise not right, then the ISO will be the same.
Title: ff8 crash need assistance!
Post by: Darkdevil on 2004-06-13 10:00:46
Quote from: Messiah99
The only time I would consider bootlegging a game as acceptable is if at some point you did own the game. (Worn out and scratched discs IMO dont constitute a reason you should repurchase a game, but that is just me)


So if I boiught, say, Hitman Contracts the day it came out, completed it, and took it back the next day.  It would be ok for me to download a copy of it the next day because i missed a weapon out. Because at one point I owned the game.


IMO Copies should only be made if you CURRENTLY own the game LEGALLY And should only be used as replacements so discs won't get ****ed up.
Title: ff8 crash need assistance!
Post by: Messiah99 on 2004-06-13 10:08:34
Quote from: darkdevil
So if I boiught, say, Hitman Contracts the day it came out, completed it, and took it back the next day.  It would be ok for me to download a copy of it the next day because i missed a weapon out. Because at one point I owned the game.


That wasnt what I meant, because in returning the game youre returning your license to play that game. I was referring to a situation where, lets say you buy the game, and 6 months later your dog knocks the discs out of the case and they get scratched beyond repair by the carpet, so you do legally own the game, but you cant use those discs (I know a dude that this happened to). I dont see a problem with you downloading replacements rather than purchase it a second time when you already did once and still own that license.
Title: ff8 crash need assistance!
Post by: Darkdevil on 2004-06-13 11:43:44
Quote from: Messiah99
6 months later your dog knocks the discs out of the case and they get scratched beyond repair by the carpet



Damn! What type of carpet do you have in your house?!

hehe
Title: ff8 crash need assistance!
Post by: Messiah99 on 2004-06-13 17:19:57
Quote from: Darkdevil
Damn! What type of carpet do you have in your house?!


The kind that mutilates cds, trust me on that one, Ive seen it a hundred times, a lot of my music cds got the same treatment from pesky pets and little sisters over the years, haha.
Title: ff8 crash need assistance!
Post by: Darkdevil on 2004-06-13 18:29:53
Quote from: Messiah99
Quote from: Darkdevil
Damn! What type of carpet do you have in your house?!


The kind that mutilates cds, trust me on that one, Ive seen it a hundred times, a lot of my music cds got the same treatment from pesky pets and little sisters over the years, haha.


Sounds like something you could kill a man with....
Title: ff8 crash need assistance!
Post by: Relf on 2004-06-13 18:40:55
The ultimate CD destroyer is sunlight  :weep:
Title: ff8 crash need assistance!
Post by: Darkdevil on 2004-06-13 20:54:36
Quote from: Relf
The ultimate CD destroyer is sunlight  :weep:


No no, im pretty sure its hydrofloric acid....Trust me, ive done it.
Title: ff8 crash need assistance!
Post by: Aaron on 2004-06-13 22:08:38
Or... your microwave oven.
Title: ff8 crash need assistance!
Post by: Darkdevil on 2004-06-14 06:47:42
Quote from: Aaron
Or... your microwave oven.


Or for that matter....My ass...
Title: ff8 crash need assistance!
Post by: trickstar66 on 2004-06-14 07:53:01
Have you tried running the same res movies as the ones that you're using when you actually played the game? Or in fullscreen?

Oh and by the way, there is no one ultimate CD destroyer. It depends if it's a cheap CD too.
Title: ff8 crash need assistance!
Post by: cloud69 on 2004-06-14 11:29:24
omg u ppl all got the wrong idea

i 4got to tell youz i do legally own the game and i only used alcohol to burn it coz it kept crashing.

thus i have to 'buy' the game again if the disc is corrupt since i bought my current one overseas where i got it in a major retailing store, whereas i have to now browse used psx or pc stores since they dont officially sell it here anymore.
Title: ff8 crash need assistance!
Post by: Darkdevil on 2004-06-14 15:36:26
Quote from: cloud69
i have to now browse used psx or pc stores since they dont officially sell it here anymore.


Jesus HAVE YOU NOT HEARD OF EBAY?!?!
Title: ff8 crash need assistance!
Post by: Messiah99 on 2004-06-14 18:06:32
Quote from: Darkdevil
Jesus HAVE YOU NOT HEARD OF EBAY?!?!


Heh, and I come one step closer to the belief that I truely am that last human walking the earth that hasnt ever used ebay. Am I the sole survivor of a time when you had to go buy things? Haha, sorry for this useless comment everyone, but I couldnt resist.  :wink:
Title: ff8 crash need assistance!
Post by: trickstar66 on 2004-06-14 21:05:03
You're not the only one who doesn't use ebay... I HATE egay!! There really is no point in buying stuff on there because you have to wait to get it! If you go to a store, you get it right away! And having the inner child that I have, GIMME!!!!!! :D
Title: ff8 crash need assistance!
Post by: Darkdevil on 2004-06-15 06:19:58
Quote from: trickstar66
You're not the only one who doesn't use ebay... I HATE egay!! There really is no point in buying stuff on there because you have to wait to get it! If you go to a store, you get it right away! And having the inner child that I have, GIMME!!!!!! :D


Patients is a virtue my friend.  And plus, would you rather pay 39.99 for a game and play it that day.  or pay 29.99 and receive it in possibley 2 days?
Title: ff8 crash need assistance!
Post by: trickstar66 on 2004-06-15 08:26:17
F you man! :)  I don't even buy games that cost that much!! :lol:  I usually look like a homeless guy rummaging through bargain bins and used game sections. I don't need ebay unless I'm looking for something really special and rare but I usually don't have enough money for much of anything since I'm still not old enough to get a job so I don't need it. I usually find rare things at the malls and game stores in my area because we seem to usually get stuff 2 months late. And we also have a lot people who sell rare stuff at the high population areas of this place. We have a very broad range of people living here too (very poor to very rich) so that means since the high population areas have a lot of poor people living there, and a lot of rich people sell there due to the high amounts of stores, the items are very cheap in price!! 8) And might I add, I didn't know "patients" were virtues... I just thought they were all sick!
Title: ff8 crash need assistance!
Post by: cloud69 on 2004-06-16 11:35:45
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Darkdevil Posted: 2004-06-14 15:36    Post subject:  

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 Jesus HAVE YOU NOT HEARD OF EBAY?!?!
 


well duh, i aint livin under a rock
i juzt aint gotta credit card an i dun noe any1 dat has 1 (cept parents hu obviously wont let me)  :P  :P
Title: ff8 crash need assistance!
Post by: Jedimark on 2004-06-16 11:41:57
Quote from: cloud69
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Darkdevil Posted: 2004-06-14 15:36    Post subject:  

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 Jesus HAVE YOU NOT HEARD OF EBAY?!?!
 


well duh, i aint livin under a rock
i juzt aint gotta credit card an i dun noe any1 dat has 1 (cept parents hu obviously wont let me)  :P  :P


You can send cash / personal cheque if the seller allows.
Title: ff8 crash need assistance!
Post by: Goku7 on 2004-06-19 04:29:51
Quote from: Darkdevil
Patients is a virtue my friend.  And plus, would you rather pay 39.99 for a game and play it that day.  or pay 29.99 and receive it in possibley 2 days?


...or, pay $29.99 plus $10.00 shipping and handling, and thus still have to pay $39.99 and still wait 2 days for the same item you could have had NOW by buying it in a store for that $39.99?

Just because the price appears cheaper doesn't mean it is.  You have to factor S&H charges in as well, otherwise that bargain of a purchase suddenly loses any advantages it had over just finding it in a store.
Title: ff8 crash need assistance!
Post by: Darkdevil on 2004-06-19 08:45:54
Quote from: Goku7

Just because the price appears cheaper doesn't mean it is.  You have to factor S&H charges in as well, otherwise that bargain of a purchase suddenly loses any advantages it had over just finding it in a store.


I apologise, Ive been using a website that give me free postage for all my games....And even then Game.uk.com's postage is only £2.50....
Title: ff8 crash need assistance!
Post by: trickstar66 on 2004-06-19 09:22:25
No offense to anyone, but are some of you just programmed to type the way an illiterate slave talked back in the mid-early 20th century when they were freed?? http://memory.loc.gov/service/afc/afc9999001/5091a.ram
Title: ff8 crash need assistance!
Post by: Goku7 on 2004-06-22 00:46:49
Quote from: Darkdevil

I apologise, Ive been using a website that give me free postage for all my games....And even then Game.uk.com's postage is only £2.50....


 :o

Free s&h?!  Now THAT'S a deal.

Other than that, from what I've seen on Ebay (and from my experience in buying a few things from there as well), having to pay $10 s&h for the stuff you bought is moderately common, as the seller could be anywhere in the world, and thus make it cost more to ship it the larger distance.

Quote from: trickstar66
No offense to anyone, but are some of you just programmed to type the way an illiterate slave talked back in the mid-early 20th century when they were freed??


That question is just....wrong....on so many levels....

(http://mapage.noos.fr/gc12/x3dfx/lmao.gif)
Title: ff8 crash need assistance!
Post by: Darkdevil on 2004-06-22 07:08:33
Quote from: Goku7
Quote from: Darkdevil

I apologise, Ive been using a website that give me free postage for all my games....And even then Game.uk.com's postage is only £2.50....


 :o

Free s&h?!  Now THAT'S a deal.


http://www.gameplay.com