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Title: Final Fantasy 7 Weapons I can't beat the underwater weapon
Post by: Soldier on 2005-07-26 20:13:06
And I am at level 99 and I have knightoftheround table maxed out and phoenix 4 star maxed out and still I can't beat the weapon. I don't get it, this makes no sense to me why this boss is like unbeatable. I even have clouds ulitmate weapon or something... I don't get it!!!

Please help me, thanks
Title: Final Fantasy 7 Weapons I can't beat the underwater weapon
Post by: Katana on 2005-07-26 20:39:13
Been a while since i last fought a tough boss, but if i remember right, what i did was:

Use ( Counter + Mime ) and ( Quadra magic + KOTR )
Or ( Counter + Mime ) and ( HP absorb + KOTR ) <- not sure if it was HP absorb, well its the materia that steals HP.
Go take a 5min break, come back and hes dead, this also works against ruby weapon.

If you dont have Mime materia and Quadra magic, its in those caves on the worldmap, i think u need a golden chocobo for that tough.
Title: Final Fantasy 7 Weapons I can't beat the underwater weapon
Post by: EmperorSteele on 2005-07-27 05:56:18
Quadra magic wont work with kotr =/

But counter-miming with a HP-absorbing kotr sounds like a good way to go =)
Title: Final Fantasy 7 Weapons I can't beat the underwater weapon
Post by: Soldier on 2005-07-27 06:50:01
Man, I was using KOTR and then it all got fucked up. I was miming and I could tell he was almost dead and my game froze? Nice... Damn game
Title: Final Fantasy 7 Weapons I can't beat the underwater weapon
Post by: EmperorSteele on 2005-07-27 20:15:40
Yeah, the game likes to cheat =P
Title: Final Fantasy 7 Weapons I can't beat the underwater weapon
Post by: Chaotic on 2005-07-28 18:31:25
try some of these combos

WEAPON : Ultima-MP Absorb, Ultima-HP Absorb, Ultima-Sneak Attack,
ARMOR : Ultima-MP Turbo, Ultima-Quad Magic, Ultima-Final Attack



WEAPON: Knights of the Round-MP Turbo, Final Attack-Phoenix, Master Summon-MP Absorb, Elemental-(Your favorite elemental summon)
ARMOR: Quad Magic-Hades, Sneak Attack-Choco/Mog, W-Summon


ARMOR/WEAPON : Master Magic, W-Magic, MP Absorb-Master Summon, MP Turbo-Knights of the Round, Master Command, Enemy Skill, W-Summon, Slash-All, Mega All, HP Plus, Final Attack-Phoenix


WEAPON/ARMOR: Enemy Skill(Big Guard), Mime, Final Attack-Phoenix, MP
Turbo-Knights of the Round, HP Absorb-Master Summon, Underwater (If facing Emerald WEAPON), HP Plus, Master Command, Master Magic-Quadra Magic, W-Summon, W-Magic, Mega All



WEAPON/ARMOR: Quad-Magic-Fire, MP Turbo-Fire, MP Absorb-Fire, HP Absorb-Fire, Added Cut-Fire, Added Steal-Fire, Magic Counter-Fire, W-Magic, Magic Plus
(This one can be used with any materia, you can use comet or ultimate with it if you want, but it seems that when ever I cast the spell, the game would somehow freeze, the caracter will stop attacking, the enemy wont do anything, the camera will keep moving and do the caracter and opponent, no one will ever attack, if you have a timer, it will keep going down without you being able to do anything about it)
Title: Final Fantasy 7 Weapons I can't beat the underwater weapon
Post by: neocui on 2005-08-17 06:56:28
Emrald isn't immune to gravity.

W-Magic, Gravity-All, Gravity-Quadra Magic, Mime

Start with Demi1, Mime it over and over... stop to heal if you have to. Swich to Demi2 if Quadra Magic runs out, or until Demi1 stops doing 9999 damamge. If Demi2 runs out, use Demi 3. By that time a couple of physical attacks should kill him.  Oh yeah, final attack-phoenix is still required. But you shouldn't need it more than 3 or 4 times. Start the battle with big-guard to get a speed boost.  I beat him without using the underwater materia.
Title: Final Fantasy 7 Weapons I can't beat the underwater weapon
Post by: Almighty_gir on 2005-08-30 11:30:14
Quote from: Sui
Been a while since i last fought a tough boss, but if i remember right, what i did was:

Use ( Counter + Mime ) and ( Quadra magic + KOTR )
Or ( Counter + Mime ) and ( HP absorb + KOTR ) <- not sure if it was HP absorb, well its the materia that steals HP.
Go take a 5min break, come back and hes dead, this also works against ruby weapon.

If you dont have Mime materia and Quadra magic, its in those caves on the worldmap, i think u need a golden chocobo for that tough.



5 minutes isnt long enough, the KOTR animation itself is nearly 2 minutes iirc, and you have to use it nearly 13 times to take down the 1.5 million hp that emerald weapon has.
Title: Final Fantasy 7 Weapons I can't beat the underwater weapon
Post by: Lieron on 2005-08-30 23:27:10
or copy that japanese video 0.o
Title: Final Fantasy 7 Weapons I can't beat the underwater weapon
Post by: Contra on 2005-08-30 23:38:02
Quote from: Lieron
or copy that japanese video 0.o


Cloud equipped with W-Item

Third Party Member dead

Barret with a Full limit bar, his limit level 3, equipped with the following matteria
[Command Counter]+[Mime] [Command Counter]+[Mime] [Command Counter]+[Mime] [Command Counter]+[Mime]
[Command Counter]+[Mime] [Command Counter]+[Mime] [Command Counter]+[Mime] [Command Counter]+[Mime]

Battle starts, cloud W-Items a pair of Hero Drinks onto Barret, Barret uses Ungarmax, then you do nothing.

Emerald will be dead in less than two minutes.
Title: Final Fantasy 7 Weapons I can't beat the underwater weapon
Post by: dramamamaindistress on 2005-08-31 21:20:56
wow i beat that wen i was level 55!!! without using mi level 2+ limit breaks too! :o
Title: Final Fantasy 7 Weapons I can't beat the underwater weapon
Post by: James Pond on 2005-08-31 22:03:51
I really doubt that tbh.
Title: Final Fantasy 7 Weapons I can't beat the underwater weapon
Post by: dramamamaindistress on 2005-08-31 22:05:02
y do u doubt that? and what does tbm mean???

i meant tbh***
Title: Final Fantasy 7 Weapons I can't beat the underwater weapon
Post by: James Pond on 2005-08-31 22:09:40
This is a world boss that has 1.5 MILLION HP.

Unless you hacked your save file to give yourself KOTR at level 55, you would have no chance.
Title: Final Fantasy 7 Weapons I can't beat the underwater weapon
Post by: dramamamaindistress on 2005-08-31 22:11:32
maybe it was a different weapon... i dont know i just know i beat the water weapon. (and for your info... im playing on PS2)
Title: Final Fantasy 7 Weapons I can't beat the underwater weapon
Post by: James Pond on 2005-08-31 22:13:34
Probably just weapon.


The grey one with rocket launchers on its shoulders that you see in the junon destruction FMV?
Title: Final Fantasy 7 Weapons I can't beat the underwater weapon
Post by: dramamamaindistress on 2005-08-31 22:15:21
yeah that one!!!!
Title: Final Fantasy 7 Weapons I can't beat the underwater weapon
Post by: James Pond on 2005-08-31 22:16:42
Yes, thats just Weapon.

The one they are talking about is Emerald Weapon.
Title: Final Fantasy 7 Weapons I can't beat the underwater weapon
Post by: dramamamaindistress on 2005-08-31 22:20:30
o okies sorry im stupid!!!
Title: Final Fantasy 7 Weapons I can't beat the underwater weapon
Post by: James Pond on 2005-08-31 22:22:23
No you arn't, You just didn't know what was being discussed.
Title: Final Fantasy 7 Weapons I can't beat the underwater weapon
Post by: sfx1999 on 2005-09-02 02:38:29
I thought the big one was called Diamond Weapon. I don't know for sure, though.
Title: Final Fantasy 7 Weapons I can't beat the underwater weapon
Post by: James Pond on 2005-09-02 07:26:34
Was it?

I alwyas just called it Weapon.

I may very well be wrong though, Ive not played the game in ages.


however ill install it as soon as my new monitor comes, I wanna try Saints high res patch :D
Title: Final Fantasy 7 Weapons I can't beat the underwater weapon
Post by: Contra on 2005-09-02 18:10:21
I hear that in the Japanese, there was one Weapon and it was just Weapon. That being the dark purple one with 4 legs. Now, my information may indeed be wrong on that, but I'm pretty sure it's right.

The localized version (American, and I'm assuming the Euro release as well) had that one, labelled Ultima Weapon, and three others. Or 4 by some accounts.

Diamond Weapon, "Godzilla in a Cocktail Dress" that storms Midgar and kills Rufus Shinra.

Ruby Weapon, the red terror of the desert, who patrols around The Gold Saucer.

And Emerald Weapon, lurker of the ocean deapths.

Some, myself included, like to label a fifth weapon, Saphire, that gets blown to bits by the Mako Cannon at Junon. It's most definately not Emerald, Ruby, Diamond, or Ultima that gets shot there. It doesn't look like any of them. Either way, it doesn't matter, because it gets blown to bits.
Title: Final Fantasy 7 Weapons I can't beat the underwater weapon
Post by: Roxas on 2005-09-03 01:30:58
Quote from: Contra
I hear that in the Japanese, there was one Weapon and it was just Weapon. That being the dark purple one with 4 legs. Now, my information may indeed be wrong on that, but I'm pretty sure it's right.

The localized version (American, and I'm assuming the Euro release as well) had that one, labelled Ultima Weapon, and three others. Or 4 by some accounts.

Diamond Weapon, "Godzilla in a Cocktail Dress" that storms Midgar and kills Rufus Shinra.

Ruby Weapon, the red terror of the desert, who patrols around The Gold Saucer.

And Emerald Weapon, lurker of the ocean deapths.

Some, myself included, like to label a fifth weapon, Saphire, that gets blown to bits by the Mako Cannon at Junon. It's most definately not Emerald, Ruby, Diamond, or Ultima that gets shot there. It doesn't look like any of them. Either way, it doesn't matter, because it gets blown to bits.



Yup, you are correct.

The Weapon that attacks Junon was officialy named by Square as "Sapphire Weapon" .

There are 5 Weapons, no more no less. :)
Title: Final Fantasy 7 Weapons I can't beat the underwater weapon
Post by: Cool Newbie on 2005-09-03 16:30:37
here a video of emerald getting beat in 1 minute 18 seconds

http://n.ethz.ch/student/wmartin/videos/FFVII%20(JP)%20Beating%20Emerald%20Weapon%20(in%201.18%20min).rmvb

u have 8 Counter materia linked to 8 Mime materia, u have cloud use W-item to get Barret pumped up with 2 H drinks, then u have Barret use his limit Ungermax on Emerald for 18 supercharged hits. Emerald counters with his generic Beam attack and Barret counter with mime 8 times meaning 8 consecutive Ungermaxs meaning 144 hits of 6000+ damage.
Title: Final Fantasy 7 Weapons I can't beat the underwater weapon
Post by: dziugo on 2005-09-03 17:40:27
Impressive :)

I remember... beating the Emerald with simple KotR, Mime and Phoenix with Final Attack. The thing is, I didn't use Underwater materia. What's so special about that you'd ask? I'd killed him when counter was at 0:02 (or 0:01). He turned red, and I saw "GameOver"... Again... what's so special?

I actually won that battle! I could only select "New Game" or "Continue" but in the background there was an after-battle screen with my exp and materia rising over and over again :). That's a bad luck :P

dziugo
Title: Final Fantasy 7 Weapons I can't beat the underwater weapon
Post by: Bunnie-Maru on 2005-09-04 06:40:02
I believe Omega was also in the JP international version of FFVII, but didn't make it over, or it was renamed to one of the regular ones.

If it's any consolation, atleast the weapons cant one-shot you like in a certain other online final fantasy x_X
Title: Final Fantasy 7 Weapons I can't beat the underwater weapon
Post by: sfx1999 on 2005-09-04 18:05:31
I thought Emerald could kill you in one hit.

Do you have a picture of Omega Weapon?
Title: Final Fantasy 7 Weapons I can't beat the underwater weapon
Post by: Bunnie-Maru on 2005-09-04 19:57:38
Look what I found while trying to find a picture:

http://snailrush.online.fr/2snail/read.php?key=1122886670

Perhaps someone on the board who's peeked into these files can confirm any unusual looking weapons not in FFVII  :wink: