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Title: Zack - I'm seriously not kidding and other cool hints^
Post by: Mkilbride2599 on 2006-01-04 21:20:20
I'm not FFVII expert or anything, but I was talking to my friend who's had it for years.

I was talking to him about how after playing the game I understood alot about Advent chilren(I saw it before I played the game, I know)

I told him how cool it was about Zack and mistaken idenity and he told me you could get Zack...

I told him bull, I told him about how I had heard tons of rumors and none where true...

He told me some complex way to do it and I still tol him BS.

So he said he'd show me.

No gameshark or anything, he loaded up FFVII on his PlayStation, and made a new game.

A few hours in he did all this stuff and answered some questions to that sick guy in the slums(who we all know is Zack) and he did alot of stuff that confused me.

And then he told me the reason why you can't sell the Buster Sword - it says initial equip, but everyone elses initial equip can, so why not Clouds? Simple. It's Zacks Ultimate weapon(it's full potential get's unlocked at a point). I once again said - BS!

So eventually after trolling around and doing what seemed to be USELESS .

He went back to him and some convo was exchanged and then...ZACK WAS IN HIS PARTY, I know it sounds BS.

He is going to write it down for me, cuz' I've got to try this with the PC version...it looks awsome.

Plus I noticed in the reunion patch, their is a battle model for Zack...so it jus might work for the PC version

I know it sounds Bullshit, as I've said, but it's damn true.

I remember that you can also get sephy legitly, although he did not show me.

But there are sephys swords you can get legitly in the Battle Arena...so it leads me to believe...

I don't care if you dun believe me, but once he writes it down I am going to try and post about it.

I've googled it and found no real info on it

And if you don't believe me, I ask: Why is there a Battle / Field model for Zack? and why is there a throwable and equipable sephy sword? that you can get in the Battle Arena.

(He said give it to a sephy clone, and  you get him. He also said rufus is, but I don't know about that one)


Don't believe me? oh well.
Title: Zack - I'm seriously not kidding and other cool hints^
Post by: Aaron on 2006-01-04 21:51:08
If you don't have more information, or screen shots, or something, I'm afraid that you're just going to look like someone who wants attention.  :-P
Title: Zack - I'm seriously not kidding and other cool hints^
Post by: Mkilbride2599 on 2006-01-04 21:52:59
Ok, I will once I do it, I said so.

Just think for yourself though.

About how you can't rid yourself of the Buster sword or why can you get sephys sword in Battle Arena? And why is there a Zack Battle / field model, yet we do not see it ingame?

this convinces me more that it may be truth.

Oh well. I'll just get it tommorow.
Title: Zack - I'm seriously not kidding and other cool hints^
Post by: Skillster/RedSarg99 on 2006-01-04 22:03:45
Well you cant sell Barrat's Initial Equip too. So that goes out the window...

Zack does have a field model because he is present in the game, but not as a playable character, just in the flashbacks cloud has of his past.
Title: Zack - I'm seriously not kidding and other cool hints^
Post by: Mkilbride2599 on 2006-01-04 22:06:33
Yes, in the flashbacks, but you never see him in an actuall battle, therefore he should never have a battle model, as it would be useless. You only see him in the original cloud like version...

So; you disprooved the one about the weapon, I couldn't rememner anyways, but ok.

Explain why you can win Sephys sword?

And he is a playable char, it's a matter of time.
Title: email me
Post by: joelo4 on 2006-01-04 22:32:58
well if what u are saying id true maybe you can send me the info to my email [email protected] and i can try it my self
Title: Zack - I'm seriously not kidding and other cool hints^
Post by: Mkilbride2599 on 2006-01-04 22:36:05
Once again, I will ask him for the info tommorow, he said he will write it down for me and then I'll try it myself, but I saw him do it without a GameShark, playstation version although, it shouldn't make a difference I think.
Title: Zack - I'm seriously not kidding and other cool hints^
Post by: Radiosity on 2006-01-04 22:38:22
Quote from: Mkillbride2599
that sick guy in the slums(who we all know is Zack)


Interesting. Especially when you consider that Zack is dead and buried outside Midgar at this point, after being gunned down by Shinra soldiers while protecting Cloud.
Title: k then
Post by: joelo4 on 2006-01-04 22:38:47
k then went you get the info send a copy to my email (hehehe i allways wanted to play as zack) :wicked:
Title: Zack - I'm seriously not kidding and other cool hints^
Post by: Borde on 2006-01-04 22:40:15
I think I should say something about Zack's "battle model". There is a hi-res model because Reunion created it. He removed Cloud's hair from the head model, removed the flesh from Zack's head (field model) and added the hair to the list of P files for Cloud's head.
I should also say that there is no portrait for Zack. So, if you got him on your party, I have no clue of what would be displayed on the menu. There doesn't seems to be any text lines for him either.
As far as I know, Zack is dead. I think he gets killed when Cloud and he are arriving to Midgard by the Militar Police.
I suggest you to watch the Last Order, an OVA that was distributed with the collectors editon of Advent of Children.
Title: well
Post by: joelo4 on 2006-01-04 22:40:20
cloud got a sword true his body if he survive that then zack most survive a few bullets
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Post by: Mkilbride2599 on 2006-01-04 22:43:59
Zack has Jenova's cell and Mako energy just like cloud, plus he was more powerful at the time; if cloud survived and got shot more, no doubt Zack did.

Anyways, it's already known Zack is the guy in the pipe in Midgar who is sick(Talk to the guy outside after reunion or so, he will say "That guy just wondered off and starting saying something about reunion" and if you checked out before hand, he had a #2 tatto, and if you read the documents in the Shinra mansion...then it should all become clear!)

Zack is in the game, and I saw him as a playable char & I didn't know about that reunion thing...so ok.

I will show ye soon enough.

We know he IS in the game, even if it's a small role.

I know you see him dead at the end of Advent Children, yet that's because...I dunno, they can't fill in every lil detail?

Hmm, but the sephy sword being won...not the "A perfect copy" item that you can throw, but a real sword that no one can equip in the party.
Title: Zack - I'm seriously not kidding and other cool hints^
Post by: Borde on 2006-01-04 22:51:34
Nop, Zack got killed way befor the begining of the game. As I said, watch the Last Order. Is a perquel that explains (well, more or less) what happened in Niblehime. It leaves no doubt, the MP killed Zack and they verified it. They left Cloud alive because he didn't seemed to be a hazard in his state.
Title: Zack - I'm seriously not kidding and other cool hints^
Post by: Mkilbride2599 on 2006-01-04 22:53:15
Ok, don't believe me for now

Explain why you can win an equipable sephy sword; but no party members can equip.

There is supposedly a legit way to get him.
Title: thats rye
Post by: joelo4 on 2006-01-04 22:55:38
thats true
Title: Zack - I'm seriously not kidding and other cool hints^
Post by: Darkness on 2006-01-04 23:17:05
There is also supposedly a way to play as Sephiroth and ressurect Aeris. It simply isn't true.
Title: for
Post by: joelo4 on 2006-01-04 23:22:18
i heard u use a gameshark for that
Title: Zack - I'm seriously not kidding and other cool hints^
Post by: Mkilbride2599 on 2006-01-04 23:37:01
Gameshark I know, and aeris is a no go.

But honestly; there is a sephy sword item to throw and one that is equipable...it jus adds up to the possibility.

And I will show you^
Title: Zack - I'm seriously not kidding and other cool hints^
Post by: -gone away- on 2006-01-04 23:43:24
Quote from: Radiosity
Quote from: Mkillbride2599
that sick guy in the slums(who we all know is Zack)


Interesting. Especially when you consider that Zack is dead and buried outside Midgar at this point, after being gunned down by Shinra soldiers while protecting Cloud.


Zack gets killed by sephiroth when the whole thing is explained in the sequence where cloud and tifa fall into the lifestream. It even shows a little animation of it happening, then cloud picks up his weapon and runs it threw sephiroth. So.. is it just me or does this guy seriously take some finishing off? :lol:.

Also Mkillbride, open google. type FF7 rumors/hoax's. read all available rumors. then check the author of each rumor and you will find it is the same jack ass that spreads all these bull shite rumors. And that man in the tunnel in the beggining is a sephiroth clone as indicated by the number two which aeris states that he has... not zack. And if you believe all these rumors then you will find that the man in the tunnel has many uses everything from resurrecting aeris to getting a grey chocobo that can travel to a moon map to becomming sephiroth.

Another thing, using a gameshark or hexeditor to get something in a game can hardly be considered a legit way of getting something. So go back to your teeny bopper friend(?) and punch him in the face for me.
Title: Zack - I'm seriously not kidding and other cool hints^
Post by: dziugo on 2006-01-05 00:02:16
Quote from: smithie
Zack gets killed by sephiroth when the whole thing is explained in the sequence where cloud and tifa fall into the lifestream. It even shows a little animation of it happening, then cloud picks up his weapon and runs it threw sephiroth. So.. is it just me or does this guy seriously take some finishing off? :lol:.
Hojo "takes care" of Zack and Cloud (he was injured too, remember that sword through his body?) after that incident.

dziugo
Title: Zack - I'm seriously not kidding and other cool hints^
Post by: APOSEIGd15 on 2006-01-05 00:11:20
Quote from: dziugo
Quote from: smithie
Zack gets killed by sephiroth when the whole thing is explained in the sequence where cloud and tifa fall into the lifestream. It even shows a little animation of it happening, then cloud picks up his weapon and runs it threw sephiroth. So.. is it just me or does this guy seriously take some finishing off? :lol:.
Hojo "takes care" of Zack and Cloud (he was injured too, remember that sword through his body?) after that incident.

dziugo


zack wasnt killed from sephiroth, but killed after escaping from hojo's stuff
Title: Zack - I'm seriously not kidding and other cool hints^
Post by: -gone away- on 2006-01-05 01:16:55
Ah... ok, must remember to watch that last order thing sometime.

Reminds me of a black adder quote.

 --- when they are working out the battle statistics ---

Black Adder "... ah yes fornsbury, he took some finishing of i tell you."

Brother "Indeed, I killed him myself at one point."
Title: Zack - I'm seriously not kidding and other cool hints^
Post by: dziugo on 2006-01-05 07:15:01
Quote from: d15c0d4v3
Quote from: dziugo
Quote from: smithie
Zack gets killed by sephiroth when the whole thing is explained in the sequence where cloud and tifa fall into the lifestream. It even shows a little animation of it happening, then cloud picks up his weapon and runs it threw sephiroth. So.. is it just me or does this guy seriously take some finishing off? :lol:.
Hojo "takes care" of Zack and Cloud (he was injured too, remember that sword through his body?) after that incident.

dziugo


zack wasnt killed from sephiroth, but killed after escaping from hojo's stuff
And between "not getting killed by sephiroth" (Nibelheim incident) and "escaping from hojo's" they both (Cloud&Zack) were taken care by Hojo :wink:.

dziugo
Title: Zack - I'm seriously not kidding and other cool hints^
Post by: -gone away- on 2006-01-05 07:33:40
Quote from: dziugo
And between "not getting killed by sephiroth" (Nibelheim incident) and "escaping from hojo's" they both (Cloud&Zack) were taken care by Hojo :wink:.
dziugo


So then why does cloud say he has never seen hojo before?

I want to watch LO but doesn't it really suck when you dont wont to pay for downloads that are going to chew up all your bandwidth. -_-
Title: Zack - I'm seriously not kidding and other cool hints^
Post by: dziugo on 2006-01-05 09:11:22
He also states, that he doesn't know (and never heard of) First Class SOLDIER Zack... His memory is just all messed up...

dziugo
Title: Zack - I'm seriously not kidding and other cool hints^
Post by: Skillster/RedSarg99 on 2006-01-05 09:31:37
Well can someone lock this thread please?
We seen all the crap on the internet already, this forum as been around for over 6 years!
The Sephiroth sword that you win is an ITEM, like the TISSUE and the 1/32 soldier and some of the other useless items that are in FF7 and it is not equipable!

Man, shows how new you are to FF7 to fall for rubbish like that.
Title: Zack - I'm seriously not kidding and other cool hints^
Post by: ice_cold513 on 2006-01-05 11:40:42
Quote from: smithie

 And if you believe all these rumors then you will find that the man in the tunnel has many uses everything from resurrecting aeris to getting a grey chocobo that can travel to a moon map to becomming sephiroth.


I never heard about that gray chocobo 1 that a new hoax on me.
as for zack battle model it WAS MADE for a Patch ......
Title: Zack - I'm seriously not kidding and other cool hints^
Post by: Emerald Weapon on 2006-01-05 12:19:25
Quote from: Darkness
There is also supposedly a way to play as Sephiroth and ressurect Aeris. It simply isn't true.


If there really is a way to resurrect Aeris I'm never touching FFVII again  :wink:

I really think people should stop trying to fantasize about playing with certain characters, I mean, it's just not gonna happen. Face it. Did that make you cry? Well...good.

(Sorry, I've been watching to much Firefly recently)
Title: Zack - I'm seriously not kidding and other cool hints^
Post by: Otokoshi on 2006-01-05 12:33:32
It's wishful thinking that any of these rumors are true.  A small part of me wishes Mkilbride2599 would post some screenshots, and we would all rejoice.  Sadly, I've heard this song many times before and it leaves me skeptical.  With a lack of a Zack battle model also crushes any hope.

Why not just put him in yourself.  Create a new portrait file for Zack, then just replace the portrait and model files for a character you don't care for.  Then just edit the name with Jenova.  I guess I wouldn't suggest replacing Red XIII.  Unless you want Zack walking around on all fours. :D
Title: Zack - I'm seriously not kidding and other cool hints^
Post by: Qhimm on 2006-01-05 13:31:52
Yes, screenshots of something for which there is no model or script data for would be nice. :)

Heh, this forum must really be the worst place imaginable to try and spread rumours like this. :P
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Post by: -gone away- on 2006-01-05 14:56:29
Yea, this whole general section seems to have gotton demoted to...

.....way down there somewhere near the 9th plane of hell :evil:.
     
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Post by: Darkness on 2006-01-05 17:15:02
Quote from: Emerald Weapon
Quote from: Darkness
There is also supposedly a way to play as Sephiroth and ressurect Aeris. It simply isn't true.


If there really is a way to resurrect Aeris I'm never touching FFVII again  :wink:

I really think people should stop trying to fantasize about playing with certain characters, I mean, it's just not gonna happen. Face it. Did that make you cry? Well...good.

(Sorry, I've been watching to much Firefly recently)


I've watched the movie like 5 times since Christmas... :)
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Post by: -gone away- on 2006-01-06 07:33:36
Im only up to 4 times.
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Post by: Threesixty on 2006-01-06 18:37:36
Quote
A few hours in he did all this stuff and answered some questions to that sick guy in the slums(who we all know is Zack)


...whatever.
Spread your Bull Crap somewhere else.


As for your Masamune sword question; your answer lies in the Hot Coffee mod of San Andreas...or the Tissues, miniture soldiers or the mirrors of the ancient city in FF7. Or...Save the Queen of FF9.
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Post by: nl on 2006-01-07 05:42:19
Hmm, have to keep an eye on Zack's remains, it seems.   :wink: Though, I'd say it's about 50/50 that Shin-Ra recovered it for its Jenova cells.
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Post by: -gone away- on 2006-01-07 07:31:58
oh God... :roll:  *Hits self in head*
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Post by: James Pond on 2006-01-07 21:22:31
Quote from: Mkilbride2599
Yes, in the flashbacks, but you never see him in an actuall battle, therefore he should never have a battle model, as it would be useless. You only see him in the original cloud like version...

So; you disprooved the one about the weapon, I couldn't rememner anyways, but ok.

Explain why you can win Sephys sword?

And he is a playable char, it's a matter of time.


There is also a supposed "revival scene" that is never used in the game.

In fact, alot of stuff was cut from FFVII before it was released.
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Post by: nijado on 2006-01-07 21:40:02
i think if this crap keeps up, warnings should be issued.
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Post by: Relf on 2006-01-07 22:04:48
Why? If they are stupid enough to post it, then they loose all credibilty on the forums, so instead of getting in trouble, they just get ostracized.
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Post by: -gone away- on 2006-01-08 05:05:18
Im surprised it's still going on after 7 years.
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Post by: APOSEIGd15 on 2006-01-08 05:35:56
Quote from: smithie
Im surprised it's still going on after 7 years.



probably because they think that someone will eventually find a way to do it

or maybe at least some extra mod that will make it possible...
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Post by: Almighty_gir on 2006-01-09 10:31:20
to add to that, the masamune you win has no actual stats, and is ultimately useless.

on top of which, sephiroth has no physical body, every time you encounter him, he is manifesting his thoughts onto a physical plane.

zack = dead, cloud buried him himself. if you watch the AC movie, youll notice that cloud uses the original buster sword as a tombstone.

gotta love rumours =/
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Post by: -gone away- on 2006-01-09 17:03:14
you would think that they would put items like the masamune in rare items list, as a sort of colectable. (nothing implied by that)

But as for the 1/35 soldier carn't you use them in the fight against cmd.grandhorn at the fort?. its said to do a attack simular to cait siths little soldiers limit break. the one where they're all in line and then shoot. Same with the super sweeper. I've never tried any of them but they always sounded plausible to me.
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Post by: EmperorSteele on 2006-01-09 22:01:05
..I couldnt read a single psot in its entirety in this whole topic; it makes my head hurt too much.  Therefor, please excuse any repeated information.

There is only one weapon in the game that you can get in your inventroy that you cannot equip to a ahcaracter, and that's the masamune.  Whish is Sephiroth's sword.

The guy in the pipe is NOT Zack.  The guy in the pipe has brown eyes; Zack's are blue.  The guy in the pipe is also said to have a tatoo #2; Zack never GOT a tatoo.

Also, Zack was not killed by Sephiroth; he just got hsi ass handed to him.  He was killed by Shinra troops while on the way to midgar (the place in AC where Cloud had the Buster Sword buried in the ground is where Zack was executed... and i say executed because what else would YOU call shooting someone who's down and defenseless 42 times in the head and chest at point blank range?)

uuugh, too much.. too much!
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Post by: Sukaeto on 2006-01-10 03:50:55
Hey, Mkilbride2599!  I think you're ready to unlock the next secret of FF7.  There's a secret character you can get in your party called "The Butcher."  It's kinda complicated, but it's REALLY worth it!  I've done it once on the psx version and once on the PC version, so I know it works on both.

To get the Butcher:

Make sure you DO NOT sell the original Bronze Bangle that Cloud has equiped at the beginning of the game. Leave it on him until you sell all of the other ones you have, because you MUST have that exact Bronze Bangle

You must have Barret in your party whenever possible.

Also, you CANNOT buy ANY Chocobo Stables.

Fight the Lost Number Directly after meeting Sephiroth in the Shinra Mansion, when he gives you the Destruct Materia. DO NOT get Vincent afterward. Leave the door locked.

Right before you fight Hojo, put the Buster sword and the bronze bangle you saved from the beginning back on Cloud. Fight Hojo with these equipped, and then once you are on disk three, go to the Shinra Mansion (Cloud must still be wearing the bronze bangle and the Buster Sword) and open the coffin Vincent is found in. Instead of Vincent, the Butcher will pop out.

The Butcher hates Chocobos, and will chop them up whenever he sees them. Take him to the Chocobo farm, it's pretty funny!
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Post by: Lieron on 2006-01-10 04:45:52
What happened to the pi ture you had of them before?
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Post by: APOSEIGd15 on 2006-01-11 03:53:08
Quote from: EmperorSteele

There is only one weapon in the game that you can get in your inventroy that you cannot equip to a ahcaracter, and that's the masamune.  Whish is Sephiroth's sword.


can this seph sword be thrown?  maybe thats the use, but ive never actually checked and im too lazy to go check now
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Post by: Skillster/RedSarg99 on 2006-01-11 09:52:25
If I remember correctly it is an item and you can only throw weapons.
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Post by: Emerald Weapon on 2006-01-11 10:53:04
Quote from: Sukaeto
Hey, Mkilbride2599!  I think you're ready to unlock the next secret of FF7.  There's a secret character you can get in your party called "The Butcher."  It's kinda complicated, but it's REALLY worth it!  I've done it once on the psx version and once on the PC version, so I know it works on both.

To get the Butcher:

Make sure you DO NOT sell the original Bronze Bangle that Cloud has equiped at the beginning of the game. Leave it on him until you sell all of the other ones you have, because you MUST have that exact Bronze Bangle

You must have Barret in your party whenever possible.

Also, you CANNOT buy ANY Chocobo Stables.

Fight the Lost Number Directly after meeting Sephiroth in the Shinra Mansion, when he gives you the Destruct Materia. DO NOT get Vincent afterward. Leave the door locked.

Right before you fight Hojo, put the Buster sword and the bronze bangle you saved from the beginning back on Cloud. Fight Hojo with these equipped, and then once you are on disk three, go to the Shinra Mansion (Cloud must still be wearing the bronze bangle and the Buster Sword) and open the coffin Vincent is found in. Instead of Vincent, the Butcher will pop out.

The Butcher hates Chocobos, and will chop them up whenever he sees them. Take him to the Chocobo farm, it's pretty funny!


Dude! I once got that very special character by total accident, I must have done everything you said without even knowing it! But now I know what happened, and oh yeah, you forgot one really important part about the Butcher: It's own very special summon: The Knife. You can summon it for free and it literally butchers everything! Way cool!
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Post by: dziugo on 2006-01-11 12:11:07
Yeah, even Emerald doesn't stand a chance :P. Anyone knows if it works on Ruby too? By the time I got him (The Butcher) Ruby was dead :(.

dziugo
Title: Orignal Post = BS
Post by: spyrojyros_tail on 2006-01-11 17:31:12
Hi, im a newbie here but i think i understand the game and film pretty well, and after watching the film i played the game again, paying particular attention to the details (i.e. if there was anyone ever name kadaj in niebhliem)

Anyway to put the original post to shame, the sick guy who is in the tube is NOT ZACK. First off dont you think that Aeris would recognise her old boyfriend?? (being the caring gentle creature that she is) then this sick guy has a tatoo on his arm (i think its 2 or something)

But first ill scientifically prove that the man in the tube is not Zack. How? Well if you dont understand this then you need to play the game over and over and see the secret flashbacks and cut scenes.

After sephiroth burns down neibhliem *sorry about spelling* all the surviors are grouped up and experiemented on (men in black capes - sephiroth clones) both cloud and zack are in this group, however they escape.

But when reading the journals in the shinra mansion you can see there are two speciemens, one that accept the jenova cells (Cloud) and one that rejects them (Zack)

Now, heres the science! Jenova cells contain jenovas thoughts, and people who have jenova cells are controled by Jenova. (including sephiroth & cloud), now Zack never accepted the cells so therefore he wouldnt obey Jenova.

Where is this going you ask? The sick man is a sephiroth clone (i.e. his tatoo) and has been infected with Jenova cells. And if you go back to him in the tube after the "Sephiroth Reunion" he has gone, ask the person beside the tube and he tells you that he has walked away mumbling "reunion". This couldnt be Zack, he would have never heard Jenova/Sephiroths voice as cloud does during the game.

There!! And finally! Zack DIED before you started playing the game!!!! So you cannot possibly say that he is in the game because hes is not. So the orignal post is just BS. Ignore it. Besides its way to vague to even follow.

There.
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Post by: -gone away- on 2006-01-11 18:13:52
Hehe... there is good reason why under your name it say's newbie.
... Just like theres good reason why it says crazy under mine.

No one here seriously pays attention to these rumors and bs post because we have all heard them before ...7 years ago. its more for comic relief :wink:.
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Post by: Cyberman on 2006-01-11 18:36:06
I suppose the only way to make the rumors come true is to hack the game.

:D

Cyb
Title: heh
Post by: spyrojyros_tail on 2006-01-11 18:43:06
heh, well i guess. I just like to put rumours to rest, and flex my ffvii muscle when it comes to the storyline.
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Post by: -gone away- on 2006-01-11 19:24:44
btw its good to see a newbie that doesn't take offense to everything i say *cough* but2005 *cough*
Title: Zack - I'm seriously not kidding and other cool hints^
Post by: Otokoshi on 2006-01-12 11:32:42
That's true smithie.  I recall numerous times when someone (who is banned, thank god) would accuse you of being rude and offensive.  :wink:   Of all the silly things to claim.
Title: Zack - I'm seriously not kidding and other cool hints^
Post by: Relf on 2006-01-12 23:54:59
Rude I could sort of see, offensive though? :P
Title: Zack - I'm seriously not kidding and other cool hints^
Post by: RPGillespie on 2006-01-13 13:17:28
Quote from: smithie
btw its good to see a newbie that doesn't take offense to everything i say *cough* but2005 *cough*


Dang it smithie, you jinxed us! Simplmy mentioning the name has put an everlasting curse upon the forum!

http://forums.qhimm.com/viewtopic.php?t=5168
Title: Zack - I'm seriously not kidding and other cool hints^
Post by: -gone away- on 2006-01-13 13:50:03
Sorry,
Naturally i'll take the only reasonable step and take my own life.

*smithie performs seppuku with a frisby on self :z * - http://www.realultimatepower.net/ninja/seppuku.htm , click to see how  8)
Title: Zack - I'm seriously not kidding and other cool hints^
Post by: ALPHA_WOLF1 on 2006-01-13 21:40:03
I ust feel like putting this BS up but its interesting


If you find Super FF7 it has an FFVII Unfinished page.. And in it it has several clues about the aires ressurection theory (ITS IMPOSSIBLE SO DON'T GET YOUR HOPES UP) but Aires Gainsbourogh wasn't supposed to die. (or she was going to be resurected) Because in the last scenes Before you fight JENOVA you see an EXTRA ledge, Bizzaro Sephiroth, On member missing in one party, and last but not least..... There is text in the Japanese version for Aeiris in disk 2 and 3.

Look up Super ff7 and see for yourself!  :D
Title: Zack - I'm seriously not kidding and other cool hints^
Post by: -gone away- on 2006-01-14 19:50:00
*Cast Life3 on self somehow*
I dont know about you's but i cannot just let "*******" (Something bad will happen if mention who) have the last say on this thread.

So here goes. *take's frisby out of mouth and throws at ******, it does nothing * . Damm  :evil: i knew i should've picked better weapon proficiencies. Ah well, maybe things will go better when i get that frisby of mega-death+5.
Title: Zack - I'm seriously not kidding and other cool hints^
Post by: James Pond on 2006-01-15 00:30:12
Quote from: ALPHA_WOLF1
I ust feel like putting this BS up but its interesting


If you find Super FF7 it has an FFVII Unfinished page.. And in it it has several clues about the aires ressurection theory (ITS IMPOSSIBLE SO DON'T GET YOUR HOPES UP) but Aires Gainsbourogh wasn't supposed to die. (or she was going to be resurected) Because in the last scenes Before you fight JENOVA you see an EXTRA ledge, Bizzaro Sephiroth, On member missing in one party, and last but not least..... There is text in the Japanese version for Aeiris in disk 2 and 3.

Look up Super ff7 and see for yourself!  :D


Text is in the PC version, and its not for Aeris, its jut the normal text for the person in slot 3, Its generic.

Ressurection scene is a possibility, as there is an unknown feild area, 3 screens high, and contains aerisis theme when loaded.
Title: Zack - I'm seriously not kidding and other cool hints^
Post by: Borde on 2006-01-15 08:23:41
Oh, actually I think that  that field has been identified as part of the secuence where Cloud gives the Dark matter to Sephirot. As for the reason why Aeris them is there, it remains as a mistery.
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Post by: James Pond on 2006-01-15 08:42:03
Oh was it? Ok, I didnt know.
Title: Zack - I'm seriously not kidding and other cool hints^
Post by: Contra on 2006-01-16 17:35:14
That field is actually used for a split second, there is 'event' music playing, so the coded bgm isn't heard. But when you're at the crater for the very first time, and Shinra's down there inspecting everything, and RIGHT after cloud gives Sephiroth Black Materia, loads that screen, then immediately cuts to an FMV background that pans up and shows Sephiroth's Materia-cocoon slip down about 5 feet. The field map is probably needed to load a walkmesh.
Title: Zack - I'm seriously not kidding and other cool hints^
Post by: James Pond on 2006-01-16 20:07:26
Quote from: Contra
The field map is probably needed to load a walkmesh.


So Walkmesh's can be shared between feilds?
Title: Zack - I'm seriously not kidding and other cool hints^
Post by: Skillster/RedSarg99 on 2006-01-17 09:56:12
No I think he simply means the field file was loaded to show the walk mesh for the 2d polygons which are present in the FMV.
Field files dont share walkmesh's they are embedded in the field file itself, so they must simply be the same.
Title: Zack - I'm seriously not kidding and other cool hints^
Post by: Red_Wraith on 2006-04-01 10:10:24
Has someone noticed that Mkilbride2599 hasn't posted anything in this thread for many days? He's probably reading this thread and laughs at those people who are expecting a description from him how to play Zack.

You'll never get a description how to play Zack because it simply isn't possible.


PS: I wanted to clear that up for those people who don't already know that.
Title: Zack - I'm seriously not kidding and other cool hints^
Post by: Sad Jari on 2006-04-01 12:40:35
(http://pendragon.mine.nu/nucleus/media/1/captainobvious.jpg)
Title: Zack - I'm seriously not kidding and other cool hints^
Post by: Midgar on 2006-04-01 14:30:16
Right Jari, except that you forgot that this is the real captain obvious! (http://www.frontiernet.net/~joe14580/captain%20obvious.jpg)
And Red, don't revive dead topics.
Title: Re: Zack - I'm seriously not kidding and other cool hints^
Post by: Krack on 2006-05-15 10:50:20
There's an assload of stupid in this thread
Title: Re: Zack - I'm seriously not kidding and other cool hints^
Post by: Sad Jari on 2006-05-15 11:10:23
Did your sense of humour run away from you?

:lol:

Besides, please don't resurrect dead topics.
Title: Re: Zack - I'm seriously not kidding and other cool hints^
Post by: Covarr on 2006-05-16 18:17:47
How ironic. The last post before it gets revived says
Quote
And Red, don't revive dead topics.
And then Krack goes and revives it. The logic escapes me.
Title: Re: Zack - I'm seriously not kidding and other cool hints^
Post by: Krack on 2006-05-17 20:09:57
logic escapes me.

Not surprising.

1) Had I said anything about the topic, I would have been reviving it. What's that? I didn't? So the topic wasn't revived?  gg

2) This thread was on first page, I commented on it.

3) Suck down more of my nut while you're on the floor rolling in that dumb shit ready to toss some into your next post, again
Title: Re: Zack - I'm seriously not kidding and other cool hints^
Post by: Emerald Weapon on 2006-05-17 20:46:26
What's this with new people having to start bitching other members in their first posts? (Well, not like it's really new...unfortunately)

@ Krack: No-one's attacking you or something. Covarr's post is a little sarcastic, yes, but does that really mean you have to "defend" yourself and insult Covarr?
You revived an old topic. No matter what way you look at it. The last post since yours was over a month old. That means the topic is dead, you posted in it, so you revived it. It therefore doesn't matter whether or not you commented on the topic or not.

Besides that, and correct me if I'm wrong, your first post didn't really add to the discussion in the first place, did it?

Oh, whatever. Why do I even try...
Title: Re: Zack - I'm seriously not kidding and other cool hints^
Post by: happsai on 2006-05-19 17:50:42
I'm wondering if the Sephy sword that can be won is actually another leftover from the original design of FF7.
In the original Japanese design (didn't get past beta stages), it was supposedly possible to resurrect Aeris which was necessary to access 2 out of 3 possible endings (the ending in the released version is the "bad" ending to my understanding).  With this plot removed from the official game, some items and miscellanious elements that became meaningless were left in the game.

Another example of a leftover item would be the "Underwater" materia which was in the Japanese version of the game even though there was no Emerald Weapon to fight.  It only has a purpose in the American version.  I think it was originally meant to  play a part in some sort of sidequest where cloud works with the guy in the slums pipe to resurrect Aeris.

This is all stuff I've read (may or may not be reliable).  What interested me was that there seems to be other leftover elements such as field areas that I never knew existed.  What program do you guys use to see this stuff, and is there any way of finding out exactly how these things were meant to be used and how it would play out?
What started as a rumour has gotten me interested in the untold story.   :roll:
Title: Re: Zack - I'm seriously not kidding and other cool hints^
Post by: Synergy Blades on 2006-05-20 00:06:28
I think over the many times this notion has come up it's been said repeatedly that the idea of Aeris resurrection is plain rubbish, and always has been; it was never, ever, planned for Aeris to be "resurrectable".
Title: :)
Post by: Asdayasman13 on 2006-05-20 02:55:58
Few things, Underwater materia is for nothing but Em. wep, and the masamune that everyone is saying thst you can't equip, I think iI have this, and Vincent uses it, I don't know why, also, it's just a normal gun...
Title: Re: Zack - I'm seriously not kidding and other cool hints^
Post by: Lazybones on 2006-05-29 22:56:01
Your friend has played you for a fool.  Grats!   :lol:
Title: Re: Zack - I'm seriously not kidding and other cool hints^
Post by: E-Sephie on 2008-09-07 11:28:00
Zack dies Dumb @$&%
Title: Re: Zack - I'm seriously not kidding and other cool hints^
Post by: Some Guy on 2008-09-08 18:21:35
These kind of rumours upset me.  Not because they always turn out to be false, or how stupid they are, but because of the total lack of evidence.  I mean, Photoshop isn't so hard to use, why not post some screenshots of Zack joining your party, or of Aeris coming back to life?  When people point out the hoax, they'll be less insulting about it, because you'll actually have provided them with something vaguely funny. 
Heck, go one step further and build a whole custom mod in which you can do all these things that are rumoured.  Release screenshots for massive publicity.  I'd do it, if I had the time.  Also, if I could code.  So basically, I will never do that.
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Post by: Tsetra on 2008-09-08 20:02:36
The horse died a long time ago guys, no need to keep kicking.
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Post by: Darkness on 2008-09-08 23:01:43
But its so much easier now...
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Post by: DarkVenomandCarnage on 2008-10-13 02:17:22
I'd like to see the instructions posted up for my testing! :-D
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Post by: The Seer of Shadows on 2008-10-24 03:17:19
This thread is amusing!  Not just reading about all the "fantasies" of Final Fantasy, but also seeing the way some people react!

I'm not accusing anyone - just noting down my observation.