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Off-topic forums => Completely Unrelated => Topic started by: Emerald Weapon on 2006-10-26 15:05:36
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Hey all,
I'm leaving Qhimm.com. My reasons for this are many, but among them are:
1. Certain people on the boards, one in particular.
2. The overall deteriorated state of the boards.
3. Too busy with everything other than being online, reading and posting. Think University, friends and so on.
I do not know if anyone cares about this at all, I just thought I'd let everyone know. I haven't been posting for over 2 months now, so I had practically left already.
This is just the official announcement, I think.
Let me add a little more explanation to the first two points.
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I've become more and more annoyed by certain members here, which I will not name, because I am not out to turn this thread into yet another fight between people.
Let's just say these people seem to be able to somehow continue creating shitty-threads or making shitty-posts.
I'm very disappointed with one particular member, and his ways of treating me. I believe them to be unfair. I will not add anymore to this either. It comes down to the fact that the entire situation does not improve my enjoyment of Qhimm.com.
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I'm just going to say this the way it is. The boards have deteriorated badly.
Qhimm.com isn't near what it used to be and nowadays even far away from the good things going on when the situation was already slightly "bad".
Stupid people keep creating stupid threads, fighting over stupid arguments and finding more and more ways to make fun of, attack or insult other members.
Besides this, the forums have become somewhat of a helpdesk for new people to just post one message, get an answer and get the fuck out of here.
New, fun threads aren't created anymore, and when they are spammed full of silly posts, using grammar that isn't even near Engrish.
I know all too well, that I myself have also been a part of this and contributed to the above mentioned things. I "understand" that and, though it was fun at the time itself, now I am not proud of some of my posts. It was, and still is, unnecessary and I hope that in whatever the future may hold for the forums it will not happen anymore. I fear it will though.
Basically it means I do not feel the need to post anymore. I have noticed I'm not the only one in this, more "older" members have been around a lot less and some have even left as well.
I'm not saying the boards have completely lost their touch or right to exist, because Q-Gears is still going strong and there are good threads in both TR and GT.
The heart of the forums is still beating, the body however has started to die slowly, but surely.
There are many things these boards need, but I am not going to summarize them here, because they are well known.
Last, but certainly not least, I would like to thank Qhimm for granting me the possibility to be here, for 3 years of my life, and with that the time I was able to spend with many great people.
(And hope to continue to do with some of them.)
It's been fun, it really has. Too bad it has to end like this.
For those of you that care: I will miss you and this place. See you someday, somewhere.
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Well to be fair, the board is more active than it has been in years. :)
Sorry to see you go.
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One point.
"Besides this, the forums have become somewhat of a helpdesk for new people to just post one message, get an answer and get the f*** out of here."
This is by no means a new thing. You get used to it.
But still. No need to emo out over it, its just a forum :P
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I'm very disappointed with one particular member, and his ways of treating me. I believe them to be unfair. I will not add anymore to this either.
But I will. These vague remarks only create rumors, so I might explain it just as well: EW here is basically bitching that I don't talk to him - that's the way I 'treat him'.
What happened in a nutshell:
1) I asked EW to post a thread for me.
2) He agreed.
3) I asked EW to post a reply for me.
4) He whinybitched about how he will do it "if I really want it", but that it's "whine whine whine bitch bith bitch so forth".
5) I told him that he really does not have to go out of his way for me, but he neither has to talk to me, either. I will do lot for my friends, but I expect them to do the same for me. If not... tough luck. I proceeded to set IM blocks and avoid him on the IRC channel.
6) Due to some developments with Nori, I decided that encouraging her current behaviour could be very much counter-productive, so I came back.
7) This apparently bothered EW, since I got a whinybitch PM from him. Mind you, he succeeded in whinybitching without too many words, but the intent was rather obvious.
8) I replied pointing out my reasoning for my return, that I'm not angry at him, merely disappointed, some Nori-related stuff that's not for the public to know, that I do not wish to talk to him and that I'll place him into PM ignore after I send the message. And a comment about how he was the first person to whinybitch about my return.
9) Present.
So, this is more or less about me not talking to him. If he wants to consider that as one reason for his departure... well, that is his right.
*shrugs*
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Jari, Jari,.. *sigh* :-(
It's really sad, not to mention unnessessary, to bring up all of these 'details'. EW was decent enough to not mention names, and until you replied, I had no idea he was referring to you. Does it really make you feel better to try to embaress people like this. Is it nessesary? Because it makes you appear as some kind of psycho(as in mental)-sadist, someone who derives pleasure from belittling and humilating others.
Just let it go. Please?
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Yes, I know. I'm a horrible person, I think that we've established that a long time ago.
Or maybe I just don't like these insinuations - trust me, while you might not have known who he meant, most of the people here would have suspected - with or without reason - that it was me. After all, I am the root of all evil.
I have this tendency to get these things out of the way. Simple as that, really.
EDIT: I would say "Remember the Admin impersonator?", but you were not registered back then. It was prime example of how half of the forum jumped into the "OMG!!!! It's Jari!!!"-bandwagon, without having any kind of proof whatsoever.
While it's certainly rather satisfying to be vindicated and having the said half of the forum apologize to you, I'd rather perform my rumor control before it gets that far, if that's ok with you?
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Fuck, I thought we got rid of you already :(
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Angst much, asshat? :-D
Here's a free tip, you can always pretend that you are being persecuted by the cruel and unjust Jari, that way you can at least feel like a martyr. There are people here who would even agree with you, so maybe you can set up a secret club and share your stories! :P
Rest assured, opinions of idiots don't concern me, so don't waste your breath. However, better people than you have found out that pissing me off is a bad idea... so on the other hand, please continue. :D
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...Am I actually the only person who is happy to have Jari back?
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I'm just going to say this the way it is. The boards have deteriorated badly.
Qhimm.com isn't near what it used to be and nowadays even far away from the good things going on when the situation was already slightly "bad".
Stupid people keep creating stupid threads, fighting over stupid arguments and finding more and more ways to make fun of, attack or insult other members.
Besides this, the forums have become somewhat of a helpdesk for new people to just post one message, get an answer and get the f*** out of here.
New, fun threads aren't created anymore, and when they are spammed full of silly posts, using grammar that isn't even near Engrish.
I know all too well, that I myself have also been a part of this and contributed to the above mentioned things. I "understand" that and, though it was fun at the time itself, now I am not proud of some of my posts. It was, and still is, unnecessary and I hope that in whatever the future may hold for the forums it will not happen anymore. I fear it will though.
All i can say is goodbye
I feel the same way too and i have done some bad grammer in my time here too.
I was here a year or two b4 coming a member so i seen the down hill.
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Good bye Emerald Weapon. Wish you luck in your life.
I'm not completly possitive about the decadency of this forums. I must admit it's been quiet boring around here lately. I haven't done anything to help it either (but don't think our little project is dead yet :-P). But the Q-Gears project seems to be the most productive effort that has been done in this forum since I came (accidentally) here for the first time.
I still have faith in tese forums. :wink:
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I'm stuck here. See, if I give a friendly goodbye to Emerald Weapon that's relevant to his post, I'm being obnoxious to Jari. If I don't say goodbye, I'm being obnoxious to Emerald Weapon. My only choice then is to give a generic goodbye that's neither friendly or unfriendly, and completely irrelevant.
Goodbye, Emerald Weapon. May you have a future filled with Pop Tarts and Cheetos.
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I'm stuck here. See, if I give a friendly goodbye to Emerald Weapon that's relevant to his post, I'm being obnoxious to Jari.
Now you are being just silly. :-P
I wouldn't mind at all, I'm here only for rumor control reasons. In fact, I think that EW is a pretty nice kid, I just don't want to talk to him. Doesn't mean that the rest of you should be nasty towards him. :)
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Hey Emerald Weapon,
Well even though I didn't talked much with you... if not at all .. I think it's always sad to see people go... so well I wish you a very nice life and good luck with anything you'll do in the future.
[...]Here's a free tip, you can always pretend that you are being persecuted by the cruel and unjust Jari, that way you can at least feel like a martyr[...]
Well Jari ... I'd say that it's you who try to play the martyr here... Emerald was just saying that he leave the forums for the reasons he mentioned ... and then you took the lead of this thread telling things like "Yes, I know. I'm a horrible person, I think that we've established that a long time ago." ....
Rest assured, opinions of idiots don't concern me, so don't waste your breath. However, better people than you have found out that pissing me off is a bad idea... so on the other hand, please continue. :D
I don't think that by telling people that they are idiots will help you making friends here... although I must admit that chaoscontrol wasn't very kind with you....
Enough of this let's not forget the true purpose of this thread witch is to say farewell to Emerald Weapon... Well I hope you enjoyed your days here as much as I do...
Well Farewell...
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Jesus, Mary and Joseph! Do you people misunderstand on purpose, or are you just really ignorant about things going on in here?
Hello?
[...]Here's a free tip, you can always pretend that you are being persecuted by the cruel and unjust Jari, that way you can at least feel like a martyr[...]
Well Jari ... I'd say that it's you who try to play the martyr here... Emerald was just saying that he leave the forums for the reasons he mentioned ... and then you took the lead of this thread telling things like "Yes, I know. I'm a horrible person, I think that we've established that a long time ago." ....
Here's a question for you: how high would you consider the possibility to be that you completely misunderstood the thing I was referring to, pick one:
a) Fairly high
b) Very high
c) Monumental
Because here comes the explanation - apparently I should just attach these to everything I write, so that I wouldn't have to explain later on; I was a) being sarcastic and b) referring to the rather well known We Hate Jari-club, not EW. Not to mention, I was replying to RW_66, not EW.
Understood that?
Or do I have to explain in more detail?
I don't think that by telling people that they are idiots will help you making friends here... although I must admit that chaoscontrol wasn't very kind with you....
Good thing that I'm not here to make friends and even less to suck up to people. If someone wants to be my friend, you are welcome by all means. But I won't be cleaning your anus with my tongue just to have you as my friend.
Could the next person commenting on this please know something about the thing they are talking about, and not just make wild guesses? As amusing as they are...
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Well whatever... just to let you know I am not in this Hate Jari-club. I was just saying that I think it was useless to come in this thread writing all this.... considering this I begin to understand the first reason Emerald Weapon mentioned...
Now Jari if you don't want to say good bye to Emerald fair enough if you don't want to make frends here fair enough ... but stop trying to look cool by humilating people... maybe then this Hate Jari-club will vanish.
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Goodbye EW, I'd say "see you around", but I don't count it likely.
...Am I actually the only person who is happy to have Jari back?
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Nope.
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I was just saying that I think it was useless to come in this thread writing all this....
Oh man, do you people read what I write at all?
...I'd rather perform my rumor control before it gets that far...
You haven't been registered long enough to see the "Admin impersonator"-incident, but just try trusting me on this; this forum has quite a few rather gullible people, and I would prefer to keep the rumors to minimum, so that I don't have to go around fixing things up afterwards.
..but stop trying to look cool by humilating people... maybe then this Hate Jari-club will vanish.
Could the next person commenting on this please know something about the thing they are talking about, and not just make wild guesses? As amusing as they are...
No doubt if I stop "humiliating people", the people will stop trying to DoS the server down, for example? Or perhaps you didn't know about that, either. Could it be that you just don't know what you are talking about?
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Uh Oh :-o
Here we go again...
(And no I havent read it all)
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Didn't stop you from commenting, it seems. :roll:
EDIT: Actually, let's just have a free for all. Everyone who has issues with me, raise your hand and post them here. Since you seem to be taking pot shots anyway, without actually knowing anything, so what's few more messages, right?
Let it all out. Tell me how I raped you and ate your kids and killed your mother. Let's hear it.
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Welll... I don't think it's the thread for that. That's exactly what I want to say... your're right I probably shouldn't talk of what I don't realy know... but my point is just that it's not the thread for discussing of issus that people have with you .. it's a thread to say goodbye to Emerald......
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*Raises hand*
(the only thing I got of this post was +1 postcount, maybe i'll be as cool as jari one day)
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Well, that was brief.
Next!
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>_> This place feels much more normal with this thread here, I must say.
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Hey Jari. Nice to see you back.
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Hi I'm one of the quiet ones who read a lot and post a little. Just wanted to say a couple things.
1). I don't know you well or anything but good-bye emerald. It's never really pleasant to lose a real member. Especially due to little things that shouldn't happen or things that aren't intentional (I.E. some of the "using grammar that isn't even near Engrish.") Not everyone is completely fluent in English. Though there are some who just felt like taking grammar out back and shooting it. But on the internet these days it's rare to see any places with a fair number of members that don't have at least a couple people like that. I hope you end up reconsidering and sticking around regardless.
2). I'm sorry if my horrible lack of punctuation, improper structure, and (on occasion) bad grammar bother anybody but i admit I have been, and more than likely will be again, part of that problem. I don't think i fall under the other issues addressed but if i do sorry.
3). It's too bad when people don't get along, especially when they can't handle it themselves privately and find a resolution to the current dilemma. I know i heard plenty of times growing up the classic, "If ya can't say nothing nice don't say nothing at all!" Granted i don't know the whole situation and I'm not asking to but i think some people may need to step back and think about some of the flames, insults, fights, etc that they are getting involved in and consider the other persons point of view make sure you fully grasp what they are saying and if that doesn't help how about simply resisting the urge to start or provoke drama. Allow the newbies a little newbishness and if you want to say something about things try being nice and showing some courtesy it might help if not and they bother u that bad ignore them.
Thats pretty much it. I know at least a couple people are going to disagree or feel I've overstepped myself or something (which is their right,) but I'm feeling opinionated today so i thought I'd share on the off chance it might do some good. I'll return to being quiet again now.
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I wasn't planning on posting after my previous one, but I will make one last post.
First, I'd like to ask an admin or mod to close this thread, since it has served it's purpose. Those of you that wanted to say goodbye, did, thanks for that. :)
Second, I would like to explain one more thing, and this may sound weird to some of you.
I do not mind that Jari posted his first post, I intentionally left it up to him to decide whether or not he wanted to explain the situation, yes or no.
And he is right when he says that some people might have expected who I was talking about, whereas lots of others wouldn't have.
He decided to explain, that is fine by me.
1). But on the internet these days it's rare to see any places with a fair number of members that don't have at least a couple people like that. I hope you end up reconsidering and sticking around regardless.
It is rare indeed. I'm not reconsidering, I might return if/when there are new forums and maybe I'll lurk around here every now and then. But no, I've decided to leave, and thus I will do so.
2). I'm sorry if my horrible lack of punctuation, improper structure, and (on occasion) bad grammar bother anybody but i admit I have been, and more than likely will be again, part of that problem. I don't think i fall under the other issues addressed but if i do sorry.
No need to apologise to me or anyone else. It's more than enough that you try and are aware of it.
3). It's too bad when people don't get along, especially when they can't handle it themselves privately and find a resolution to the current dilemma.
It is indeed, however sometimes that's just the way it is. Jari's made his decision and I respect that, whatever I think of it or however I may feel about it, is mainly my business. I think this is a very important thing, which more people should learn to understand. Respect. (Don't think Tupac here ;) )
I also think Jari is a nice guy. He really is, so please don't think differently of him than you did before I posted this entire thing (whatever opinion that may have been), achieving that was not my intention.
And no, I don't hope you will start talking to me again by posting this.
Thats pretty much it. I know at least a couple people are going to disagree or feel I've overstepped myself or something (which is their right,) but I'm feeling opinionated today so i thought I'd share on the off chance it might do some good. I'll return to being quiet again now.
Don't, whenever you feel opinionated, do post. It's what makes and keeps forums interesting.
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Goodbye EW :)
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Take care EW, sorry to see you go.
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Goodbye, Emerald, and feel free to come back whenever you want to.
First, I'd like to ask an admin or mod to close this thread, since it has served it's purpose.
As you wish.
Topic closed.
- Alhexx