Qhimm.com Forums

Off-topic forums => Completely Unrelated => Topic started by: Kashmir on 2006-11-22 10:53:27

Title: What consoles do you all own?
Post by: Kashmir on 2006-11-22 10:53:27: What consoles do you all own?

Im about to get one soon but the last console i owned was a sega so i dont exactly know whats out there or whether i should just avoid them alltogether seeing as ive pretty much played everything computers have to offer.
Title: Re: What consoles do you all own?
Post by: Fergus McMillan on 2006-11-22 14:33:14: I have a PS1 and a PS2 currently, before that I had a Genesis, before that I had a Nintendo. I'm planning to get a PS3 once the price drops and MGS4 and FFXIII come out.
Title: Re: What consoles do you all own?
Post by: Jari on 2006-11-22 14:39:14: The Mighty Box of X, and the Pay-not-quite-so-much-Station 2.

Really generic question you have there, I don't think that we can tell you whether you should get one, or avoid them altogether. I would almost suggest heading over to Metacritic (http://www.metacritic.com/), and checking out if any of the platforms have games that interest you.

I would go so far as to say that from a technical viewpoint it doesn't matter which console you pick, as long as you are comparing the same generation (well, maybe with the exception of Wii and its different target audience). The possible differences are not that great between Xbox and PS2, and it looks like they are not very large between 360 and PS3 either.
Title: Re: What consoles do you all own?
Post by: Vehek on 2006-11-22 14:42:21: None. Absolutely none. Never even had one in my life as far as I can recall. I mostly rely on emulators.
Title: Re: What consoles do you all own?
Post by: Borde on 2006-11-22 19:12:10: I had a Nintendo NES when I was a kid and that's all I had until 2 years ago when I bought a GC. Bad idea. It's a nice machine, but I has been so wasted... Well, at least is cheap.
Then I bought a cheap DC simply because of my collector spirit. Not that I'm really using it, but it's a piece of history.
And this summer I finally bought a DS Lite. Very nice machine, defintly a good purchase. If you spend a lot of time on the bus or the train, I'd certainly advise you to get one.
Title: Re: What consoles do you all own?
Post by: Threesixty on 2006-11-22 19:28:55: PS2.... and an AMD Socket 939 3000XP with PCI-E 6600GT PC are my only gaming outlet, of today.

Vehek: You were doing good, until you said that last sentence.....
Title: Re: What consoles do you all own?
Post by: zero88 on 2006-11-23 04:20:43: I currently own a PlayStation, Nintendo 64, PlayStation 2, and a GameCube. I actually just recently purchased the GameCube only for the latest installment in the Legend of Zelda series, Twilight Princess. Hey, call me crazy for buying a system for one game, but I got the system for $25.00 (USD).

As for the latest consoles out there, personally, I wouldn't go buy one just yet. More often than not, they're over-priced and temperamental. The console will most likely die on you and cause you to purchase a replacement before the next generation of systems is released. Therefore, I advise you to wait about a year until the prices drop and all of the consoles are basically as good as they're going to get.

For buying one, it's entirely up to you which one you buy. Each of the three, newest "main" consoles out there (PlayStation 3, Wii, and XBox 360) have their strengths, their weaknesses, but more importantly, they have video game series franchises tied to them. I never kept up with XBox and Microsoft very much (the biggest proprietary money maker they have is Halo, if you ask me), but the Wii has the Legend of Zelda series attached to it, along with Mario and several other prominent video game figures that are generally associated with Nintendo and that you are most likely most familiar with. In my opinion, the PlayStation 3 and Sony produce the best video game series (Final Fantasy, Metal Gear [for some reason I keep thinking there was a Metal Gear installment on GameCube...], Resident Evil [though, again, the GameCube saw some Resident Evil action], and the Grand Theft Auto series [though you may see that on the latest XBox]), but I personally am more attracted to those types of games.

Establish what you want out of a console. This is my general consensus of opinion in the matter (note that I am mostly speaking of past experiences with the three companies [Nintendo, Microsoft, and Sony] and assuming that their past practices carry into the next generation of consoles):

If it's for a good time with friends, more interactive and casual gaming, go with the Wii.
If you want in-depth story games, containing mostly single player action and generally long gameplay hours, look up the PlayStation 3.
If multi-player action with similarly themed games as the PlayStation 3, and with superb visuals, I recommend you try the XBox 360.

A final note is that, though the prices on all three consoles differs independently, the PlayStation 3 is A LOT more expensive than the other two. A lot of opinion I've seen and heard from people is that the Wii will dominate the gaming market this generation. Hey, it eventually comes down to being your call on what kind of experience you want from your games.
Title: Re: What consoles do you all own?
Post by: ChaosControl on 2006-11-23 07:38:37: uhh...

Atari 2600
Amiga 600
Commodore 64
Nes
Snes
N64
Gamecube
Playstation
Playstation 2
Xbox (Kinda died I guess)
Game-Boy (2x normal, color, 2x advance, pocket, sp)
DS
Megadrive
Mastersystem
Genesis
Saturn
Dreamcast

I might have missed one, but I can edit so doesnt matter really.

You might think OMFG hes and addict!
but it's mostly because I like some of the games on them so i buy the system cus they're worth 10 bucks nowadays, except newer systems, i just have those because i wanted them when they got released :P.

And I don't sell them because by the time im done with em they arent worth anything anymore..
Title: Re: What consoles do you all own?
Post by: Jari on 2006-11-23 08:14:07: Quote from: zero88 on 2006-11-23 04:20:43
[for some reason I keep thinking there was a Metal Gear installment on GameCube...]

There was. Not to mention on Xbox. And PC. Up to now it's been 'timed exclusive' of Sony. MGS3 being totally exclusive.

Quote from: zero88 on 2006-11-23 04:20:43
Grand Theft Auto series [though you may see that on the latest XBox]

More than likely, considering that Rockstar is advertising simultaneous release on their page. Just like the previous GTAs were on Xbox too, again merely timed exclusives.
Title: Re: What consoles do you all own?
Post by: mirex on 2006-11-23 09:38:16: PC
notebook
some japanese clone of Nintendo with 50 games and lightgun for shooting ducks.

that's all, I can't afford to have many consoles, too expensive.
Title: Re: What consoles do you all own?
Post by: Covarr on 2006-11-23 09:39:49: I currently have a SNES, N64, GC, GBC, GBA, GBASP, DS Lite, and I plan to get a Wii by the end of the week. I used to have a NES, but a game genie broke it. I may get a 360 and a PS2 eventually.
Title: Re: What consoles do you all own?
Post by: Borde on 2006-11-23 11:30:20: Actually GC has more Resident evil games than PS2 :-P
Title: Re: What consoles do you all own?
Post by: Jari on 2006-11-23 14:24:13: Quote from: chaoscontrol on 2006-11-23 07:38:37
uhh...

...
Amiga 600
Commodore 64
...

Uhh... to yourself. Since when have these two been consoles of any kind?
Title: Re: What consoles do you all own?
Post by: ChaosControl on 2006-11-23 16:14:23: Quote from: Jari on 2006-11-23 14:24:13
Quote from: chaoscontrol on 2006-11-23 07:38:37
uhh...

...
Amiga 600
Commodore 64
...

Uhh... to yourself. Since when have these two been consoles of any kind?
Wow, you are actually right, I'm sure this will be forgiven though.
Title: Re: What consoles do you all own?
Post by: Covarr on 2006-11-23 18:42:35: Oh yeah, I forgot to put "PC" and "Calculator that I installed Tetris on" into my list. Also, does "Stratego" count as a single-game console that doesn't have a screen?
Title: Re: What consoles do you all own?
Post by: ChaosControl on 2006-11-23 21:23:03: Quote from: Covarr on 2006-11-23 18:42:35
Oh yeah, I forgot to put "PC" and "Calculator that I installed Tetris on" into my list. Also, does "Stratego" count as a single-game console that doesn't have a screen?
Only if you put a monitor on the board.
Title: Re: What consoles do you all own?
Post by: RPGillespie on 2006-11-23 21:25:24: --------------------------------Consoles
SNES <-- My favorite
N64
Gamecube
--------------------------------Handhelds
Super Old-School Blocky Gray Gameboy
Gameboy Color
Game Boy Advance SP
Nintendo DS Lite
Ti-83 (I suppose...)
Title: Re: What consoles do you all own?
Post by: Kashmir on 2006-11-24 02:09:58: Quote from: Jari on 2006-11-23 14:24:13
Quote from: chaoscontrol on 2006-11-23 07:38:37
uhh...

...
Amiga 600
Commodore 64
...

Uhh... to yourself. Since when have these two been consoles of any kind?

The commodore was a awesome console with its tape deck plug-in, lol. I had space invaders, tron, digger(dig-dug) & others on it.
Title: Re: What consoles do you all own?
Post by: Borde on 2006-11-24 05:54:28: C64 isn't a console Kashmir, it's a micro-computer.
Title: Re: What consoles do you all own?
Post by: stevenw9 on 2006-11-24 08:39:38: N64, Gameboy, Gameboy Advanced, Gameboy SP, Playstation, Playstation 2, Xbox and Gamecube. Nice list eh? I actualy wish I had some of the older consoles... *tears* I miss them! I want my Sega Genesis with Sonic!!!!
Title: Re: What consoles do you all own?
Post by: ChaosControl on 2006-11-24 10:54:12: Quote from: Kashmir on 2006-11-24 02:09:58
Quote from: Jari on 2006-11-23 14:24:13
Quote from: chaoscontrol on 2006-11-23 07:38:37
uhh...

...
Amiga 600
Commodore 64
...

Uhh... to yourself. Since when have these two been consoles of any kind?
Tron rox0rs.

The commodore was a awesome console with its tape deck plug-in, lol. I had space invaders, tron, digger(dig-dug) & others on it.
Title: Re: What consoles do you all own?
Post by: Jari on 2006-11-24 15:52:31: (http://koti.mbnet.fi/jarihux/SM120.jpg)
Title: Re: What consoles do you all own?
Post by: atzn on 2006-11-25 00:25:34: NES, Playstation2 and more recently a DS Lite, after being pestered by my friends to get one.
Title: Re: What consoles do you all own?
Post by: Kashmir on 2006-11-25 11:03:01: Quote from: Borde on 2006-11-24 05:54:28
C64 isn't a console Kashmir, it's a micro-computer.

Meh, whats the difference.
Title: Re: What consoles do you all own?
Post by: Jari on 2006-11-25 11:15:57: Considerably larger than the difference between a modern PC and modern console. Back then consoles were truly dedicated gaming machines, while computers were... well, computers.

Or like Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_game_console) says:

Quote
A video game console is an interactive entertainment computer. The term is used to distinguish a machine designed for consumers to buy and use solely for playing video games from a personal computer, which has many other functions, or arcade games, which are designed for businesses to buy and then charge others to play.

I can't even believe that I have to explain something so fundamental.

Pity that (world's only?) webserver (http://tfe.c64.org/) running on C64 seems to be down.
Title: Re: What consoles do you all own?
Post by: M0T on 2006-11-25 20:28:19: Consoles I own:

Super Nintendo
Nintendo 64
Dreamcast
Gamecube
Playstation 2
Xbox
Xbox 360

Least played (over their lifetime) would be the ps2, most would be the Super Nes.

Out of the latest generation I'd buy a Wii or a 360 if I were you (its what I'm doing). Ps3 seems to offer nothing that the 360 doesn't in terms of games, and from what I have read the 360 is better for a whole host of reasons. Plus I can actually play 360 now and PS3 isn't out until march.
Title: Re: What consoles do you all own?
Post by: Chrisu on 2006-11-25 20:57:00: I've got a NGC, a PS2, a GB, GBC, GBA and GBA-SP.
Title: Re: What consoles do you all own?
Post by: Kashmir on 2006-11-27 09:46:43: Quote from: Jari on 2006-11-25 11:15:57
Considerably larger than the difference between a modern PC and modern console. Back then consoles were truly dedicated gaming machines, while computers were... well, computers.

Or like Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_game_console) says:

Quote
A video game console is an interactive entertainment computer. The term is used to distinguish a machine designed for consumers to buy and use solely for playing video games from a personal computer, which has many other functions, or arcade games, which are designed for businesses to buy and then charge others to play.

I can't even believe that I have to explain something so fundamental.

Pity that (world's only?) webserver (http://tfe.c64.org/) running on C64 seems to be down.

Its hardly fundamental, how people categorise things is completely up to them alone. I doubt the ISO has determined what decides the difference between a console and microcomputer & i doubt they ever will as there is not much point. And its not like we all have to obey the organisation even if they did/have.

To stereotype something as a microcomputer just because of the way it was designed without any consideration as to what it was & will be used for is rather stupid.
Just like it stupid of me to stereotype the c64 as a console just because i used & treated it like one.
The only truely acceptable stereotype for a object / item really is the name it has been given or none at all.

So as to refrase and widen the scope my question so it is at a agreeable level for everyone on this forum and to prevent further arguement (hopefully),
What electrical devices that plug into a television set do any of you own and like to use to play video games on?
or handheld portable electrical devices that you also use?

and as a bonus question, was the psp any good? what are some good games for one? or is the ds better?
Title: Re: What consoles do you all own?
Post by: Borde on 2006-11-27 10:29:48: Well, I haven't touched a PSP on my life, but acording to what I've read, It's an excelent emulators machine. On the other hand, his native games aren't specially good.
I own a DS and I don't regret having buyed it. But It certainly looses appeal without a flashcard. It isn't just a matter of using backups. The homebrewn aplications that float around the net really add a lot of value to the machine.
Title: Re: What consoles do you all own?
Post by: Jari on 2006-11-27 11:04:20: Quote from: Kashmir on 2006-11-27 09:46:43
Its hardly fundamental, how people categorise things is completely up to them alone. I doubt the ISO has determined what decides the difference between a console and microcomputer & i doubt they ever will as there is not much point. And its not like we all have to obey the organisation even if they did/have.

WTF?

This has to be most convoluted defense ever, and just for being plain wrong.

So, if I were to categorize myself as black, I'd suddenly become one? I doubt that the ISO has determined me as white, either. Like it or not, we can NOT categorize things as we please. Or if we do, we'll have to face the reality that we might have categorized them wrong.

There is massive difference between microcomputers and consoles. You can play games with one. With the other one you can play games, you can program (believe it or not, I used to program quite a bit on my MSX), you can visit BBS' or Internet (Internet would be more of later Amigas' thing, BBS' being C64's). One has a keyboard, other one does not. One had image editing programs, video editing programs (you do understand that Amigas have been used in commercial TV-productions for subtitling? Their video toaster was way ahead of its time - and the larger ones were used to design and render the CGI for Babylon 5, for example), word processors and... well, basically almost everything modern PC has - the other had none of these.

You do that with SNES, and then I'll agree that they are the one and the same thing.

Quote from: Kashmir on 2006-11-27 09:46:43
To stereotype something as a microcomputer just because of the way it was designed without any consideration as to what it was & will be used for is rather stupid.

What you say? How exactly were they designed "without any consideration as to what it was"?

Quote from: Kashmir on 2006-11-27 09:46:43
The only truely acceptable stereotype for a object / item really is the name it has been given or none at all.

Jesus, Mary and Joseph, I thought that I had been saying that all along. Geez.

They have been known as microcomputers (or computers of some flavor) since their birth, up to this day. They have been marketed as such. Why can't you accept that they are computers, and consoles are a different beasts altogether?
Title: Re: What consoles do you all own?
Post by: ChaosControl on 2006-11-27 12:57:48: Then the PS2 and PS3 are computers too, same goes for the XboX and XboX360 cus you can do everything on those too, like programming etc... just get linux on it.
Title: Re: What consoles do you all own?
Post by: Jari on 2006-11-27 13:14:33: So, you like quoted my entire post, just to make one line reply? Way to go.

Netiquette (http://www.usenet.org.uk/ukpost.html#s3). Read it. It'll do you good.

Seriously, that is not only entirely unnecessary, but also really ugly.

As for your question: I believe that I already stated:

Quote from: Jari on 2006-11-25 11:15:57
Considerably larger than the difference between a modern PC and modern console. Back then consoles were truly dedicated gaming machines, while computers were... well, computers.

Compared to the earlier consoles that we were talking about, modern consoles are much closer to computers, no question about it.

However, I would like to point out that neither of the Xboxes were meant to run Linux - both need exploits to do it. And PS2... well, ask halkun how long it will take to compile a kernel on it. Hint: 32MBs of memory don't make a very fast computer, if you want to run anything even resembling a modern app on it.

And none of them come with a keyboard as a standard, for example. Or Linux, unless you want to count the PS2 bundle as 'standard'. While both C64 and Amiga did (just replace the word 'Linux' with 'operating system').

So, they are not computers... but they sure are lot closer than their old counterparts used to be.

EDIT: Actually, is there an exploit to run unsigned code on 360 yet? Does anyone know?
Title: Re: What consoles do you all own?
Post by: ChaosControl on 2006-11-27 14:07:53: Quote from: Jari on 2006-11-27 13:14:33
EDIT: Actually, is there an exploit to run unsigned code on 360 yet? Does anyone know?

Yes, there is.

Mod Edit: Do not quote whole posts.
Title: Re: What consoles do you all own?
Post by: Jari on 2006-11-27 19:35:50: *snicker*

You know, there is a difference between trying to annoy me, and trying to make an ass out of yourself. Seems that you are accomplishing the wrong objective. :-D But do not worry, I wish you luck on the road you have chosen.

Now that we have gotten the silliness out of the way, you no doubt want to post links about this exploit?

You wouldn't want to look like someone just talking out of their ass, would you? :-P
Title: Re: What consoles do you all own?
Post by: ChaosControl on 2006-11-27 20:46:12: I do, seeming my objective is being and idiot.
Or you could have asked nice (which is what normal people do, not internet junkies) and I would have given it to you in a nice PM. Sucks to be you now though, I bet it would take you 5 minutes of googling to find this "precious" info.
Title: Re: What consoles do you all own?
Post by: Jari on 2006-11-27 21:19:27: Quote from: chaoscontrol on 2006-11-27 20:46:12
Or you could have asked nice (which is what normal people do, not internet junkies)

Hahahah. How hilarious, to see that coming from you. :-D Hypocrite much?

Quote from: chaoscontrol on 2006-11-27 20:46:12
...and I would have given it to you in a nice PM. Sucks to be you now though, I bet it would take you 5 minutes of googling to find this "precious" info.

Newsflash; I don't need to know - I don't even have a 360. I wanted to know whether you were making this up, or not. Seems that you were. Too bad.

PS. My five minutes of Googling revealed a way to run backups, but no way to run unsigned code. So, unless you can back your claims with proof... you fail. Again.
Title: Re: What consoles do you all own?
Post by: Kashmir on 2006-11-28 05:34:48: so back topic, i was seriously considering a psp because i decided that portability was important & well the price of the ps3 is just too much & i have zero interest in the wii or xbox.

I like the hardware & look of the psp, and the size of the screen (not too keen on the duel screens on the ds). But the problem is there is no decent games available for it... is this ever going to change?
Title: Re: What consoles do you all own?
Post by: RPGillespie on 2006-11-28 13:11:19: Quote
Is this ever going to change?

Um... No? (http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=sony_bullsh*t)
[edit] Apparently, the forums edit "bullsh*t", so the above link will not be direct... Simply click maddox's latest article : ).

As the owner of a DS, and the brother of an owner of a PSP, I'm going to have to say that I'm much happier with a DS.

The loading times for the DS are virtually instant, whilst my brother waits nearly 5 minutes to play one level of battlefront.

The DS is backwards compatible with GBA, and has an arsenal of good games (Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow, Mario Kart DS, Tetris DS), and is more than half the price of a PSP...

I don't know, the only reason I would ever buy a PSP would be because of it's homebrew/emulation capabilities. You can jack up your PSP though if you're not careful.

Make your choice wisely...

-RPGillespie
Title: Re: What consoles do you all own?
Post by: Kashmir on 2006-11-30 04:54:26: Okay so i guess the DS is the way to go, ill guess i will put my duel screen phobia behind me and go get one...

also FF3 has just come out on it, thats been a huge deciding factor for me.
Title: Re: What consoles do you all own?
Post by: ChaosControl on 2006-11-30 08:24:10: Quote from: Kashmir on 2006-11-30 04:54:26
Okay so i guess the DS is the way to go, ill guess i will put my duel screen phobia behind me and go get one...

also FF3 has just come out on it, thats been a huge deciding factor for me.
Heh, I own a DS and really like it, a friend of mine has a PSP and it's ridiculous how long loading takes.
In WWE smackdown (or whatever the psp version is called) takes 8 minutes from boot till first game.

You wont regret buying a DS, especially if you're gonna play FFIII on it ;)
Title: Re: What consoles do you all own?
Post by: L. Spiro on 2006-11-30 15:26:54: Or Mario Kart DS. We could race online if you like.

L. Spiro
Title: Re: What consoles do you all own?
Post by: Skillster/RedSarg99 on 2006-12-17 21:16:41: In order of purchase or accrument:
Acorn Electron (Yes it does play games),
Commodore 64,
Game Boy,
Bleem! (Yes I paid for it and was well worth it to play GT, MGS, Xenogears and FF8),
Playstation 2 (Never thought I would give in and give Sony my money),
Nintendo 64 (ISS98, Mario 64, Goldeneye, Mario Kart - No comment!),
Gamecube (So damn cheap for a new console I thought I would give it a go).

Possibly get a Wii in the new year, but no way am I getting an Xbox and I will try and avoid the temptations of the PS3 (Damn you Pro evolution Soccer...)
Title: Re: What consoles do you all own?
Post by: ChaosControl on 2006-12-18 07:30:57: I got a Wii now, it really rocks.
Twilight Princess really consumes all my time at the moment now though :P

I recommend everyone to get a Wii with Zelda:TP, it'll rock you over.
Title: Re: What consoles do you all own?
Post by: Darkness on 2006-12-19 21:46:45: NES
Genesis
N64
PS
PS2
Xbox
Wii

I am selling the Wii.
Title: Re: What consoles do you all own?
Post by: Jedimark on 2006-12-20 16:18:36: I have a PS1, PSP and a SEGA Game Gear.

Darkness: Why are you seeling the Wii?
Title: Re: What consoles do you all own?
Post by: Darkness on 2006-12-21 15:14:40: Quote from: Jedimark on 2006-12-20 16:18:36
I have a PS1, PSP and a SEGA Game Gear.

Darkness: Why are you seeling the Wii?

Well I was going to make some quick Christmas money, but I'm stuck in 3 feet of snow 70 miles from home. I guess I'm keeping it ;p
Title: Re: What consoles do you all own?
Post by: Jari on 2006-12-21 16:24:15: Oh, that's where all my snow went. I want it back! Gimme gimme! :-D
Title: Re: What consoles do you all own?
Post by: Izban on 2007-01-06 20:38:16: i have all after the nes