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Title: Machines
Post by: dlskye on 2001-11-01 00:08:00
I was just wondering what all of you are running.

I've got a 1 Ghz Athlon, MSI mb, 512ram, 30G HD dualing XP pro and ME.  (I would've dualed with 98, but I couldn't find my cd.  Me is just for FF7 now, 8 when I get it).  Oh, also my AGP Geforce2 MX with 64 megs.
Title: Machines
Post by: dlskye on 2001-11-01 00:34:00
Testing my avatar...
Title: Machines
Post by: Sukaeto on 2001-11-01 02:05:00
900 Meg Athlon, A-Bit KT7-RAID Mobo (soon to be an EPoX EP-8KHA+), 384 Megs of PC133 SDRAM (soon to be 512 Megs of PC2600 DDR RAM), Asus V7700 GeForce 2 GTS 32 MEG DDR, and an SBLive! (not the Dolby Digital 5.1 :sad: ), and a *coughfifteengigcough* hard drive.  (Please don't make fun of my small hard drive . . .).  Dualing Win2K and Win98 (though I only use 98 for FF7.)

You won't have to worry about running FF8 in ME, XP should run it just fine (at least 2K does.)  Just make sure you have DirectX 8.0 and the latest Detenator drivers for you GeForce.

---Edit---

bah!  Spelling error.

[edited] 76 2001-11-01 03:12
Title: Machines
Post by: Alhexx on 2001-11-01 08:30:00
Currently:
800 MHz Duron, Elitegroup K7VZA (updated  BIOS), No-Name Riva TNT2 M64 32MB, 160 MB SD-RAM, Acer 6x4x32 CD-RW, Maxtor 20GB HDD, Hauppauge WinTV Primio, Elsa 56K Modem, VIA OnBoard Sound, Saitek ST 200 Joystick (for PSX Emu :smile: ), No-Name Optical Mouse, 15" Monitor, Win 98 German, I guess that's all

Changes in near future:
Win XP pro, LG DVD Drive (16x), More RAM, probably 40+ GB HDD :grin:

 - Alhexx
Title: Machines
Post by: Reznor007 on 2001-11-01 12:43:00
Athlon Thunderbird 1.33GHz
Epox 8KTA3 motherboard(latest BIOS and VIA 4.35 drivers)
192MB PC133 RAM
Voodoo5 5500 AGP(1.04 drivers)
SoundBlaster Live 5.1
VoodooTV 200
Hollywood+ DVD decoder card
Western Digital 20.5GB 7200RPM ATA66 HD
Creative 8xDVD
3.5" floppy
300 watt PSU
17" AOC monitor
Logitech 104key keyboard(PS/2)
MS Intellimouse(PS/2)
HammerheadFX (gameport version)
GamepadPro (USB version)
Sanyo HiFi VCR
SuperNES
Pioneer VSX D509S 500watt Dolby Digital/DTS receiver
Kimber Kable speaker wire
B&W DM603-S2 Front speakers
B&W DM603-S2 Rear speakers
B&W CC#3 Center speaker
Monster Cable THX certified subwoofer cable
Sony SA-WM40 12" 120 watt powered subwoofer
Rotel RCD-951 CD Player
Monster Cable cables connecting sound card to receiver's 5.1ch analog input

For info on the speakers, check http://www.bwspeakers.com You can't go wrong here.

[edited] 93 2001-11-01 13:45
Title: Machines
Post by: Anonymous on 2001-11-01 14:38:00
Well, I've been *living* in a P3 500 box, 128mb ram, intel integrated video and a 6.4g hd with Linux (mandrake) since I'm beginning to really realize what pure sh*t windows 98 is.  

My windows 98 box is an athlon 700 slot a, 384mb ram, 20gig hd, diamond viper 2 32mb video, cdrw (12x8x32), dvd, 17 inch monitor.

Currently looking to do a mb/proc/vc upgrade, prolly with an athlon xp proc, not too sure about the mb yet, and a gf2 video card.
Title: Machines
Post by: chowderhead on 2001-11-01 18:26:00
Now, I posted the above and I'm *pretty* sure I was logged in.  *hmph* :mad:
Title: Machines
Post by: Sephiroth 3D on 2001-11-01 19:40:00
I'm running a self-built system in desperate need of upgrading.

Celeron 300a running @ 450
ABit BH6 Motherboard
192megs DIMM RAM
7gig C: HD
30gig D: HD
Creative Labs Annilator2 32meg (RIVA GeForce2 card)
Creative Labs Sound Blaster Live! (Original full version, not value)
Happauge WinTV TV Tuner card (OLD!)
Bocca 33.6 Modem
DFE-530TX+ Network Card (Currenly removed due to system conflict)
Creative Labs Voodoo2 12meg (have to install)
Creative Labs Dxr2 DVD decoding board (have to install)
Black Dell keyboard
Microsoft IntelliMouse Explorer (The $50 optic mouse)
Sony Multiscane E210 Monitor

That what I currently have. I'm hoping to upgrade to about 1gHz soon...

Sephiroth 3D

"I don't understand..." "You don't have to understand." - Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within

Sephiroth 3D.com (http://www.sephiroth3d.com)
[email protected]
Title: Machines
Post by: mirex on 2001-11-02 06:03:00
So here is one special ... my pc:
P200mmx
32 ram
15gb hdd
14" monitor
voodoo 2 12mb
some sbpro clone
with win95, and RedHat on some forgotten partition
and manli netcard 2k

ok, now stop laughin'

But my friend just recently bought P4 1.5ghz, and im thinking of buying something similar to that.
Title: Machines
Post by: tulkk on 2001-11-02 08:58:00
My comp?

Commodore64
Cpu           : M6510 - 1 Mhz
Ram           : 64Kbytes
Sound Chipset : SID
Hd            : wha? I got a floppy and a cassette deck :grin:

ohh.. I got one of those new PC's too..  :wink: nothing fancy though..
Title: Machines
Post by: Alhexx on 2001-11-02 11:55:00
Hey, that reminds me of the 'How old is everyone here?' Topic...

I've got a good old Amiga, too. Specs:

Commodore Amiga 600
512 KB RAM
68000 Processor (7 MHz)
720 KB Disk drive

That's all I remember...

 - Alhexx
Title: Machines
Post by: Ant on 2001-11-02 12:48:00
Mines an Acorn Electron  :sad: I loved it like nothing else :sad:

1.79 MHz
32 KB ROM
Good ol' cassettes that take 10 minutes to load a game.
Title: Machines
Post by: Darkness on 2001-11-02 22:43:00
mirex-> mines almost as bad

Celeron 400Mhz 200MHz FSB
Abit K6-V Raid (or something)
256MB PC-133 SDRAM
12.7 GB and 17.1 GB ATA Hard Drives
23" Monitor (Oh Hell Yes)
Voodoo 3 2000 AGP
SB Live! Value
HP 4x4x24 Internal CD-RW Drive
Samsung 3.5" Floppy Drive
Pinnacle Studio DC-10 Plus
DiamondMax 56k Fax Modem
10/100 Ethernet Adapter (Generic)
Espon Perfection 640U
HP Deskjet 682C
Windoze 98 Second Edition

Title: Machines
Post by: Goku7 on 2001-11-02 22:46:00
I hear ya, Mirex.  I gots one similar, but I'm a little better off than you are in some areas.  This one's self-built, and also is in desperate need of an upgrade.  Laugh if you want; my friends at school are constantly laughing at the specs anyway.

Specs:
Pentium-1 233Mhz MMX processor
48megs of RAM (32megs EDO; 16 megs Regular DRAM)
Asus VX97 motherboard
Linksys Network card (For DSL-splitting purposes :smile:)
13 gig hard drive; plus a 540 meg drive for archiving stuff and to store my MIDI collection.
24X CD-ROM Drive (DMA is enabled, of course!)
(GamePad)PC Propad 4

Now for the good stuff on the system:
3DFX Voodoo3 2000 PCI; 16meg
Sound Blaster AWE 64 (512kb RAM setup)
Also running a Maxi Sound Fortissimo (XG Hardware card with the newer YMF744 Chipset) on the same system!
Microsoft Sidewinder 3D Joystick.

And that's all I can remember off the top of my head.  Interestingly, while the Fortissimo box claims that the card has hardware DLS, it doesn't under Windows 98.  However, the card does something to allow DLS SoftSynths to run FF8's music with no performance hit :grin:

[edited] 239 2001-11-02 23:49
Title: Machines
Post by: Darkness on 2001-11-02 22:47:00
im trying to get about 1000 dollars to build a DDR system with a gig or RAM and a Radeon 8500
Title: Machines
Post by: J*** H******* on 2001-11-03 00:07:00
Message!
Title: Machines
Post by: ficedula on 2001-11-03 00:40:00
I think we all know where the names for all those computers came from :wink:

I don't *own* many of the computers in my house (there are 3 other people living here..) but since the servers are kind of composite beasts anyway (we all contributed something) I guess I can list them too....

Anyhoo:

Ficedula (my PC, duh!)
----------------------
K6II 500Mhz
192MB SDRAM
Radeon VE 32MB DDR
Unbranded 15" monitor
Iiyama 17" monitor (both running off the Radeon .. hoohah!)
Chic optic mouse
MS Internet Pro USB keyboard
SB Live (yeah!)
Realtek 8139 network card
Mirovideo DC30 video capture card
20GB Seagate disk
Sony 12X/40X regionless DVD drive
Iomega Zip650 CDRW
Internal Zip100 drive (plus a normal floppy, but who cares about that...)
Front speakers: Arowana satellites & subwoofer
Rear speakers: Zyteks
Soulmate MP3 docking station

Win98SE
(Oh, we're listing things connected to 'em as well? OK...)
LG PAL/NTSC VCR
Grundy cassette deck
Digital microphone


Hal2k (main server ... internet sharing, file server, web server, network server, TV server [really!], voicemail, entertainment system ... you name it)
-------------
PIII 500MHz
256MB SDRAM
6GB Seagate drive
60GB removable racked Maxtor drive
LS120 drive
Realtek network card
HCF modem
WinTV card
32MB TNT2 with TV output (for DivX playback on the big TV ... bwhaha!)
ADSL modem (yeah, baby!)
PCI128 soundcard (suxors, but hey...)

Win2K advanced server
Goes into our big TV for uber-DivX/DVD/gaming experience, yeah :wink:
I think the PSX might be *somehow* connected to this as well ... hard to tell, really, with all the cables in the living room :wink:


Brian (spare server ... we're gonna set this up as a Linux box for the house, probably)
-----------------
K6II 450Mhz
128MB SDRAM
1.7GB hard disk (ouch) (though we do have a spare 4GB disk *somewhere*...)
Creative 24X CDROM
SB16 soundcard (yes! the original ISA one that was half a mile long!)
Dodgy who-knows-what-it-is network card
SiS video card

WinXP currently ... soon to be Linux, perhaps.


Jesus (belongs to another of the guys in our house...)
-----------------------
Athlon 700Mhz
192MB SDRAM
40GB hard disk
SB Live!
100/10 network card
24X CDROM
Geforce 32MB (I think)

Win2K Pro

Don't know the details to the other two computers (Omoikane and Dave) in the house offhand ... we've got parts for at least another computer scattered around, but since there's no need we haven't put those back together yet.

I really need to upgrade my CPU/MB but that's such a costly upgrade, I'm putting it off as long as possible...

[edited] 68 2001-11-03 01:44
Title: Machines
Post by: J*** H******* on 2001-11-03 01:27:00
Message.
Title: Machines
Post by: The SaiNt on 2001-11-03 06:20:00
Jari : If the MAGI system really ran on that, "they" would really be in trouble to trusting a govt. with "so" much computing power. :wink:

Okay, here's my system, though I believe I've said this before:-

Ok, here's my main PC(No Name),

Core System
AMD Athlon 1000@1200Mhz / 1300 depends what I'm doing :wink:
Abit KT7-RAID
384MB PC133 SDRAM
MSI Starforce 815 (Geforce 2 GTS 32MB) with S-Video Output
Soundblaster Live! Value Card
2 X Quantum Fireball AS 20GB(7200rpm)
Aopen 50x CD-Drive
Yamaha CRW 2100E (16x/10x/40x)
3.5" Floppy Drive (Rarely used)
8+ Fans "Overvoltaged" to 17/24V for cooling

External Devices
Iomega Zip 100 External USB Drive
US Robotics 56k modem :razz:
Mustek 1200ED Plus Scanner (Not too good)
Epson LX800 Pinwriter (Almost as old as I am)
Epson Stylus Color 200 Printer
Canon BJC-3000 Colour Printer
Logitech Optical Wheel Mouse
Msft Ergonomic Keyboard PS2/USB (Can't remember exact name, it's the one with lots of extra buttons)
Altec Lansing ACS54 Speakers
17" Sony Trinitron E200 Colour Monitor (0.24 dot pitch, max res 1600x1200)
Rockfire PSX to USB converter & PSX controllers of course :smile:

Running on
WinXP (Main)
Win98 (via Virtual PC)
Linux Mandrake (via Virtual PC)
PS, if any of you wan't a copy of Virtual PC, I have one :smile:

Stuff connected to the PC
JVC VCR (Forgot the model name)
Sony Trinitron 21" Colour Television

-----------------------------------------------------------------------
My Second PC ( No name either) :wink:

Core System
AMD K6-2 300@400Mhz (No fan required!)
128MB SDRAM
8GB Quantum Fireball ST
FIC PA2013 Motherboard
Asus 3400TNT 16MB (Riva TNT) with S-video in/out & RF in/out, also comes built in with some chipset to allow video capture at 700somethingxsomething at 30fps hardware.
S3 Virge 4MB Video Card (I used this to play FF7PC a long time ago)
Creative Vibra 16(Soundblaster 16 really)
Pro Audio Spectrum 16 Sound Card
Aopen 32x CD-Drive
Compaq 1x CD-Drive (Yes, it still works and reasonably well too)
Unknown Brand Internal Modem
3.5" Floppy Drive (of course)
5 1/4" Floppy Drive

External Devices
Non-branded 14" "Colour" Monitor (It's half broken now, sometimes the white channel appears yellow or red)
Dell 2-button Mouse
Standard Compaq Keyboard
Crap Speakers

Running on
Windows 98

Note: TV & VCR is connected to this PC too

-------------------------------------------
Third PC (Name = Totally crap PC, fit for museum & yes it still runs)

Core System
XT PC I think, forgot the name
640k of RAM
No Hard Disk :smile:
2 X 5 1/4" Floppy Drives

External Devices
Keyboard (Creaks when you type)
3 Colour Monitor (Yeah!)

Running
Ms Dos 3.30(Boot Disk)

------------------------------------
PC's that have been trashed or salvaged and are in my cupboard somewhere.

Intel Pentium 166Mhz
Asus P55T2P4 Motherboard
64MB RAM
2GB Quantum Bigfoot
120MB Quantum Something (Still runs, but of no use)
BTW, I have a spare PIII 550Mhz(I think) that has no M/B for it to be attached to (My cousin gave it to me & it still works)
Compaq Prolinea CDS System Running on 486SX 33Mhz I think
A Pentium 100Mhz Processor

I could have missed something cause I'm writing this from the top of my head, can't be bothered to check. :wink:
Title: Machines
Post by: Alhexx on 2001-11-03 13:53:00
:grin: HOLY COW ! :grin:

 - Alhexx
Title: Machines
Post by: Darkness on 2001-11-03 15:05:00
hehehe NERV. i would never trust a supercomputer built by yui ikari to run a government.
Title: Machines
Post by: Alhexx on 2001-11-03 19:09:00
1.
Whoops ... my specs have changed :grin:
Now I've got 192 MB RAM :eek:

2. NERV ? So we are talkin' 'bout this MAGI computer...aha ! Well, I've got 'End Of Evangelion' now on mpeg... oh, and Yuki has bought a Limited Evangelion DVD Box...

3. As for me, my computer has it's own mind...it quit or crashes when it wants to... I don't need to comp with human brain inside :grin:

 - Alhexx
Title: Machines
Post by: Sephiroth 3D on 2001-11-03 19:25:00
Ok... Here's my family's entire "Render Farm":

Hal9000: (Mine)
  (See above)
  Kenwood 72x True-X CDROM Drive

Dennis: (About to be upgraded as soon as I finish posting. Upgraded stats listed)
  P4 1.6ghz
  Miro DC-30 Plus Digitizing Card
  512megs Mushkin RAM
  17" monitor
  TNT 16meg Video Card (I know, old)  SCSI Outboard Card
  Umax 600s flatbed scanner
  Polarid Slide Scanner (the $600 kind)
  6gig C-Drive
  20gig D-Drive
  60gig E-Drive
  8x2x2x CD-RW drive

Joey: (This is just a rendering computer)
  AMD 1.6ghz
  256megs DDR Mushkin RAM
  ATI-RageII video card (REALLY old)  80gig HD
  52x CD-ROM drive
  14" monitor (We're running out of monitors!)
Colossus: (The first twin)
  AMD 1.2gHz
  256megs RAM
  Winfast 64meg GeForce2 video card
  DVD-Rom drive
  45gig C-Drive
  45gig D-Drive
  17" monitor

Guardian: (The other twin)
  AMD 1.2gHz
  256megs RAM
  Winfast 64meg GeForce2 video card
  52x CD-ROM drive
  60gig C-Drive
  60gig D-Drive
  20" monitor

M5:
  P4 1.5gHz
  512megs Mushkin RAM
  Winfast 64meg GeForce2 video card
  SCSI 36gig HD
  Pioneer DVR-A03 DVD-RW drive (I can burn DVDs!!)  17" monitor

My mom & my sister also have systems but I don't really know what's in them because it's my sister's job to take care of them. (She's tech support-in-training.)

That's all for now. :grin:

Sephiroth 3D

"I don't understand..." "You don't have to understand." - Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within

Sephiroth 3D.com (http://www.sephiroth3d.com)
[email protected]
Title: Machines
Post by: Alhexx on 2001-11-03 19:32:00
Quote
Taken from Sephiroth 3D's Signature
"I don't understand..."


...why has everybody got some 1+ GHz comps...and I have to run on my 0.0008 TeraHertz ... :weep:

 - Alhexx
Title: Machines
Post by: Sephiroth 3D on 2001-11-03 19:45:00
Alhexx, be happy I have these systems. They're the ones I'm going to render the remake's FMVs with.

Actually, minus software & a monitor, I can build you a computer similar to M5, Guardian or Colossus for about $1200 US dollars. Maybe even better than them since prices today have gotten MUCH cheaper for better things!

Sephiroth 3D

"I don't understand..." "You don't have to understand." - Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within

Sephiroth 3D.com (http://www.sephiroth3d.com)
[email protected]
Title: Machines
Post by: ficedula on 2001-11-03 20:34:00
Hey, I'm building the Remake on a 500Mhz beastie. You don't need above that for an awful lot.
Title: Machines
Post by: Darkness on 2001-11-03 20:45:00
the only game i cant force my system to run becuase of processor speed is RtcW
Title: Machines
Post by: chowderhead on 2001-11-04 01:22:00
Yeah, don't feel bad Alhexx, I'm *only* @ 700MHZ with a classic athlon, and my Savage card blows chunks.  Can't have everything...
Title: Machines
Post by: Alhexx on 2001-11-04 09:12:00
Seph 3D: 1200 $ = 2500 DM ... for 2500 DM I can get a 1.5 GHz here in Germany, too. It's not that point...I haven't got enough money for building a new comp every year. And my mom would kill me :grin:

It's not that 800 MHz are not enough, but simply get jealous when I see all that crap build in your comps :grin: ... but well, okay, when I get older and I get a job, I'll buy such a system, too :razz:

 - Alhexx
Title: Machines
Post by: The SaiNt on 2001-11-04 09:48:00
I'm not sure about pricing, since I haven't bought anything lately but I'm sure prices of things here are pretty low.
Title: Machines
Post by: Qhimm on 2001-11-04 12:50:00
Why let you people have all the fun? Here are my humble machine specs (home-built):

1.0GHz Athlon
768MB RAM
50GB HD (4+16+26+4)
Geforce2 GTS 32MB
Pioneer DVD thingy
CDRW burner
Horribly overpriced 19" screen
Prolly a lot of other stuff

Oh well, I sorta got bored while writing it :wink:
Title: Machines
Post by: Ant on 2001-11-04 13:26:00
:eek: Jesus Christ - that is a helluva lot of RAM !  :eek:
Title: Machines
Post by: ficedula on 2001-11-04 14:01:00
True - might cost all of, ooh, £60 at the moment :wink: ?

Remember, RAM is cheap as anything at the moment. I wish CPU's would drop a bit more, though....that's what I need.
Title: Machines
Post by: Darkness on 2001-11-04 15:05:00
qhimm, might i suggest generic 512mb ddr? 50 some USD a peice.
Title: Machines
Post by: J*** H******* on 2001-11-04 21:06:00
Message.
Title: Machines
Post by: Darkness on 2001-11-04 21:08:00
oh sorry, i havent watched eva in quite a while.
Title: Machines
Post by: Darkness on 2001-11-04 21:10:00
hehe i guess they could. but probably not.
Title: Machines
Post by: ficedula on 2001-11-04 21:59:00
Its perfectly possible ... think how long TCP/IP's lasted so far :wink:
Title: Machines
Post by: Darkness on 2001-11-04 22:02:00
EVA TAKES PLACE A COULPE DECADES FROM NOW, RIGHT?

sorry my caps lock was on and im too lazy to type that again even though this message is longer than that one, my bad
Title: Machines
Post by: J*** H******* on 2001-11-04 22:23:00
Message!
Title: Machines
Post by: ficedula on 2001-11-04 22:41:00
Hehe ... I can just imagine it.

Misato: "Shinji! What's wrong? Your synchronisation's fallen to nothing again!"

Shinji: "My ping's too high dammit! The MAGI are dropping packets!"

Angel: "Haha, my ping r0x0rs!"
 
Shinji: "ARGGGGGGGGH!"

...a scene regularly seen in our house when Q3-ness occurs :wink: Well, not with Shinji and Misato. Unfortunately (well, screw Shinji :wink: )


Oh, and I hope you've all read this (http://www.toastyfrog.com/jump/thumbnail/eva_01.shtml)
[edited] 68 2001-11-05 00:01
Title: Machines
Post by: Darkness on 2001-11-04 23:04:00
dont you just wanna kill shinji sometimes?
Title: Machines
Post by: Darkness on 2001-11-04 23:06:00
"Hi Shinji! Im Eva-01!" :grin: thats great
Title: Machines
Post by: ficedula on 2001-11-04 23:09:00
It has *lots* of great lines :wink: One of my favourites is:

Rei: "I am I. I am me. I am also voiced by Megumi Hayashibara. Bow down and worship me. Build a shrine to me now, geek-boy!"

...or possibly...

Gendo: "Shinji, you don't totally suck."
Shinji: "Wow, almost a compliment. I think I'll fixate on that and go on about it for the rest of the series."
Title: Machines
Post by: Darkness on 2001-11-04 23:18:00
im only on episode 7 but ramiel is hilarious!
Title: Machines
Post by: J*** H******* on 2001-11-04 23:37:00
Message!
Title: Machines
Post by: Darkness on 2001-11-04 23:47:00
omg thats hilarious. i especially like:

Shinji finds love. It's turns out to be a complete and utter disaster(www.imac.com).=6
Title: Machines
Post by: chowderhead on 2001-11-05 00:40:00
Christ, that's funny!  Oh, wait-I suck!
Title: Machines
Post by: Darkness on 2001-11-05 01:01:00
Kusanagi: Naked women kick butt! Even diplomats aren't immune to naked women! *blows up diplomat*
 :grin:
Title: Machines
Post by: The SaiNt on 2001-11-05 04:09:00
Reading through that actually reminded me of that long scene...

Spoiler:

when Shinji killed Kaworu


That damn scene was still for so long that I thought the file was spoilt.

Then again, that reminds me of the "lift" scene of Rei & Asuka.

Title: Machines
Post by: Sephiroth 3D on 2001-11-05 05:57:00
I'm only a few episodes into it and I've already found my favorite line:

Walkman: (Click)

It you do it with a pause between Walkman & click, it's incredibally funny! (At least to me it is...)

Sephiroth 3D

"I don't understand..." "You don't have to understand." - Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within

Sephiroth 3D.com (http://www.sephiroth3d.com)
[email protected]
Title: Machines
Post by: mirex on 2001-11-05 12:20:00
Alhexx: My friend bought computer like that for about 29000 Sk, thats little less than 1500 DM,-
It was intel 1.5 GHz, with about 400 mbram, motherboard, 2 optical mice and ... i dont remember more.

Or try in Czech rep. Maybe there it is cheaper there.
And prices are still going down.


When Ill buy new comp, it will be something like 700Mhz, why to have something stronger ? :???:
Title: Machines
Post by: Alhexx on 2001-11-05 14:21:00
HOLY COW! What a discussion!

Darkness, Fice & Co: EVA -> Yeah, like it :smile: My favorite chars are Maya Buki and Rei (if someone's interested in that)

Rei: I'm not your doll.
(End of Evangelion)

GitS:

Diplomat: Our country is a peace-living democracy...
Kusanagi: Sure we are...
*kills diplomat*

:grin:

Qhimm: For what do you use 768 MB of RAM? Programming? Guess not...

 - Alhexx
Title: Machines
Post by: Darkness on 2001-11-05 21:07:00
hehe and then ther was the bubbling recreation of the arm and the gasping =) that was the greatest movie.
Title: Machines
Post by: Darkness on 2001-11-05 21:10:00

Spoiler:

Poor Shinji, oh wait....... YOU SUCK!

Title: Machines
Post by: Skillster/RedSarg99 on 2001-11-06 09:13:00
ok MY turn
advent 3203 (i paid 255£ for it)
1GHz Thunderbird athlon
SoundBlaster live1024
4 point surround speakers
Geforce 3 (gotit FREE) elsa limited edition gladiac920
toshiba DVD/CDRW
TDK CYCLONE 24/10/40 ROCKS with nero5.5
786mb 133sdRAM
IBM DESKSTAR 60GXP (KISS MY ASS) 60gb 4 partitions (win95,xp,linux)
Seagate 30GB win98
gigabyte something :razz: motherboard
ATX 300W supply
Proview 19" monitor (£200)
philips pro vesta web cam (25£)
canon 620uscanner
canon BJ2100 printer
EPSXE (i had to say that), Counterstrike 1.3, MaxPayne ,Buldersgate2, MYst 3, AintDark3,SUSE linux7.2 WinXP full pro, win98, win95 ON the same system
did i miss anything OH YEA
logitech wingman xtreme, psxtoUSB convert>psx joypad, thrustmaster RAGE3d gamepad,
MS internet keyboard pro (20£) MS intellimouse with IntelliEYE (ROCKS!!)
anything else....
 :roll: :roll:
Title: Machines
Post by: Alhexx on 2001-11-06 16:36:00
Am I wrong or was this a hard-ware related topic? :grin: Well, should I post all my installed software here? (I'm sure noone's interested...)

 - Alhexx
Title: Machines
Post by: Darkness on 2001-11-06 21:02:00
hehe im depressed enough  :wink:
Title: Machines
Post by: vvalentine on 2001-11-06 21:08:00
Mine is a sony vaio notebook.
551 Mhz AMD K6-2/III processor.
12 GB hard drive.
1 floppy drive.
Toshiba 8x DVD drive.
192 Mb SO-DIMM SD RAM.
Windows 98SE, and Linux Mandrake 7.2.
External 250 Mb Zip Drive.
8Mb Video Memory, Trident CyberBlade card.
and all the basic stuff for a Notebook computer.

-vvalentine
Title: Machines
Post by: Darkness on 2001-11-06 21:25:00
ahhhhhh     ive seen pocket pcs better than my computer in some ways.
Title: Machines
Post by: dlskye on 2001-11-07 02:24:00
Please don't start with software-think if we all listed every piece of software we've ever installed.
Let's see...I've got fdisk, edit, qbasic, paint, notepad, wordpad, Photoshop 6, Unreal, yadda yadda yadda... Get my drift?
Title: Machines
Post by: vvalentine on 2001-11-07 08:13:00
Qbasic?  Man, I have that in my old 386 processor computer.
It's a packard bell computer with a 386 processor, 200 Mb of Hard drive memory, 1 Mb RAM, 2 floppy drives (big floppies and small floppies), and have Windows 3.1 installed in it. LOL.  I use Qbasic when I am really bored, and I want to use my old computer.  I learned Qbasic first, then C (a little bit), then some other programming language, and right now C++.  Woops, I got right off the subject.

-vvalentine :grin:
Title: Machines
Post by: ficedula on 2001-11-07 08:18:00
Looks like you're fitting right in here then :wink:
Title: Machines
Post by: mirex on 2001-11-07 11:39:00
One question for programmers: what do you think, what is better, OpenGl, or Direct3D, (or maybe something else). Im trying into OpenGl a little, it looks fine. Could you rate them, tell their adv/disadvantages ?
Title: Machines
Post by: ficedula on 2001-11-07 12:26:00
That's the sort of question that sparks off large scale flame wars, you know :wink: I'll still answer it tho.

Both have advantages and disadvantages. A quick summary:

Direct3D
-----------
Pros:
-Integrates with other DirectX components for sound, video, etc.
-Sometimes better driver support (depends on the manufactorer)
-Don't have to worry about extensions

Cons:
-Windows only
-MS only support it under VB/C++ (you can get it working on lots of other things ... but no official support)
-Have to deal with COM (ie. not *quite* so simple)


OpenGL
------------
Pros:
-Cross platform
-Easier to start learning with
-Longer lifetime (ie. quite a few features, OGL has had for longer than DX has)
-Extensions
-More than one software renderer to plugin as well

Cons:
-Extensions
-Have to use something else for sound, etc, in a game


So ... what do I mean by extensions?

Well, OpenGL has a feature called extensions which means that if a card implements more than the minimum set of features, it can have an extension to let you access the additional features.

IE: All OpenGL supporting drivers will support basic features (texturing). Some (most nowadays, it has to be said) will support multitexturing, so they register an extension called GL_ARB_MULTITEXTURE (or something similar). If you want to use multitexturing you can't just use it - you have to check whether the card supports that extension; if not, do something else or at least report an error and quit :wink:

In DirectX in *theory* most of the features don't follow that pattern. Instead, if you try to use a feature the driver doesn't support, DirectX is supposed to try and emulate it in software.

So, for simple things, DirectX makes life easier because you don't have to worry about checking driver support and so on.

In practice, it makes little difference because if the card doesn't support something in hardware, you're often better off leaving it rather than letting the software renderer try it - software is sloooooow.

Also: it means for things like vertex shaders, under OpenGL each card reports and extension for vertex shaders. In DirectX, Microsoft adds shaders into the next version of DX, and the card manufacturers have to support shaders in their drivers.

Similar story there too. Under DirectX, all cards (that have shaders) will conform to the built-in DirectX shaders, so easy to use. Under OpenGL each card might well report a different extension (one per manufacturer, generally). Thats bad because your app has to support multiple methods of doing shaders. But it's good because you're going to get *full* access to each cards hardware features - under DirectX you might well just get the features MS decided DirectX would like to support.

Eventually, of course, the OpenGL authority will merge the separate shader extensions into one official shader extension so there's no problem there either.
Title: Machines
Post by: Skillster/RedSarg99 on 2001-11-07 21:19:00
pete (the creator of the xcelent PSX GPU plug ins) has said that the DX "surfaces" are better ("cant get surfaces like those in DX plug in").
also in terms of visual quality (wasnt quake 2 made in opengl?) half life (whose engine was orinigaly OpenGL) looks 20% better in D3d then OpenGL on a Gf3, 1GHz athlon at highest quality set up in riva tuner.
--
point made
Title: Machines
Post by: ficedula on 2001-11-07 21:47:00
Depends what you're doing. There's no innate quality difference between OpenGL/D3D - they both do exactly the same thing: send messages to your 3d card.

If Halflife looks better in D3d mode, it's because they wrote better D3d code...

Yes; OpenGL can't access video memory directly like DirectX can (at least, not fast enough to be useful). That's one area where DirectX has an advantage. Of course, you don't often need to (emulators are a special case, I guess).
Title: Machines
Post by: The SaiNt on 2001-11-08 01:32:00
Strange but OpenGL has usually been "darker" on my system...
Title: Machines
Post by: mirex on 2001-11-08 11:57:00
Then Ill go with OpenGl. Anyhow I dont like ms, and I like porting. Who knows how to run OpenGl program in Dos ? :smile:

(oops forgot 'r')

[edited] 171 2001-11-08 13:03
Title: Machines
Post by: dgp9999 on 2001-11-19 19:05:00
My PC is going to be upgraded by 2002. At the moment it is:
Intel Pentium !!! 500
448mb SDRAM (PC100)
AOpen AXBsomething motherboard
13.5gb harddrive (hoo hoo hoo, God that's funny)
Creative GeForce2 Pro 64mb DDR 400mhz (Detonator 14.10)
Creative Labs Live! 1024 Player
Creative PC-DVD 12x IR Dxr3
Samsung SyncMaster 700s Plus (17")
Yamaha YST-M15 Speakers (Only two I'm afraid)
Motorola something-or-other 56k Modem
Windows 98 dual boot usind System Commander

That's about it. I hope to get a 2ghz AMD or Intel processor and convert my memory to PC133 or PC2600. Of course a new motherboard. Can anyone recommend a motherboard and processor manufacturer?