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Title: Final Fantasy 7 Fighting and menu crash in the beginning
Post by: Net Sphere Engineer on 2007-03-02 22:13:59
Sorry If this is a stupid topic but I already tried a lot of things, read the other topics, tried the 1.02 official patch the same things I always try before ask for some help, maybe I was just stupid and forgot soemthing but the game always crash when I enter in the first battle after cloud and the others jump from the train, if I push the menu button the game freezes too, please if anyone can help me I will be very grateful, thanks in advance and sorry about my bad english

Ohhh yeah my specs:

CPU: Pentium 4 HT 3.06 GHz
Graphics Card: GeForce 7300 GT 256MB
RAM: 512MB
Operating .System.: WinXP SP2 DirectX 9.0
Title: Re: Final Fantasy 7 Fighting and menu crash in the beginning
Post by: Borde on 2007-03-03 14:55:36
Just use the Win95 compatibility mode.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy 7 Fighting and menu crash in the beginning
Post by: Net Sphere Engineer on 2007-03-03 16:38:35
already tried that, well I uninstalled the game I will give another try!!!! but this have to be in the ff7.exe? Yeah stupid question but this compatibility thing never works for me and I always think that I'm doing something wrong

EDIT ohhh man no luck, the game still crash, any other ideas? I thought that this official patch from eidos should  resolve all the compatibility problems, please if anyone can help me!!!!!
Title: Re: Final Fantasy 7 Fighting and menu crash in the beginning
Post by: lparcshinoda on 2007-03-03 17:30:18
you got to use YAMP minigame/swhirl effect hack, use the 1.02 patch and check if your version of FF7 is not a repacked one found online
Title: Re: Final Fantasy 7 Fighting and menu crash in the beginning
Post by: Net Sphere Engineer on 2007-03-03 18:36:58
already used both patches, and this is not that Ultima thing if this is what you're thinking, this YAMP has a folder that came with patches this battle swhirl thing is automatic? and this kind of errors are very strange why I have a bad feeling? Thx a lot for you help guys, I hope we can fix this together, you all are my only hope
Title: Re: Final Fantasy 7 Fighting and menu crash in the beginning
Post by: Net Sphere Engineer on 2007-03-05 14:53:32
Sorry but no one can help me? I really want to play this game!!
Title: Re: Final Fantasy 7 Fighting and menu crash in the beginning
Post by: dziugo on 2007-03-05 15:22:59
Since the newest version can't be downloaded from the YAMP support thread, download it here - MGP with integrated BattleSwirlFix (http://dziugo.republika.pl/temp/1278/newmgp.rar) (or whatever). This will (hopefully) stop the crashing when entering the battle.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy 7 Fighting and menu crash in the beginning
Post by: Net Sphere Engineer on 2007-03-05 16:33:38
I overwrote the old patch and applied again this one and no change, what this error can be? it's very strange, no one seems to have this, if this was some common problem I could just follow the faq, like I said I have a bad felling, I really wanted to play this game, but if the problem is my pc there is nothing to do, I even closed antivirus and a lot of programs in a crazy tentative to run the game

thank you, if there is something else to try please say it to me, thx!!
Title: Re: Final Fantasy 7 Fighting and menu crash in the beginning
Post by: dziugo on 2007-03-05 16:59:53
Error reports (one for each type of crash) would be useful ("Do you want to send the error report to Microsoft?" -> "View the report"). Copy & paste here, I'll see what I can do.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy 7 Fighting and menu crash in the beginning
Post by: Net Sphere Engineer on 2007-03-05 18:57:39
Do you mean this?

http://img528.imageshack.us/my.php?image=errorzw2.jpg

http://img528.imageshack.us/my.php?image=error2io3.jpg

how can I copy and paste that? I can't even select all the text, I can take screenshots but there are lot's of info, are you looking for anything in particular? Damn!!!!! I'm really unlucky it's a lot of trouble for me and who are trying to help
Title: Re: Final Fantasy 7 Fighting and menu crash in the beginning
Post by: dziugo on 2007-03-05 19:45:26
What interests me is the memory address (in the first screenshot it's the 3rd line - 0x0..069b26d) and the type of crash. If it's the battle swirl crash that you've taken a screenshot from, then we have a second type of this crash (not good :P) - so I'd like to know which one was it. Oh, and the second memory address would be nice too :)
Title: Re: Final Fantasy 7 Fighting and menu crash in the beginning
Post by: Net Sphere Engineer on 2007-03-05 21:32:33
New type of crash huh, so I'm really unlucky  :cry: I took another 2 screens but it's not like I'm having some fun, the windows save this in a folder or something? can't I get the entire errors in some place and just send it to you? I really see a BIG list of errors and I don't know how to identify what's the ones you need sorry about my stupidness, can this problem even get fixed? or maybe this is just one wrong thing that I have done? Like a program or something? I really don't know

http://img252.imageshack.us/my.php?image=error3fn9.jpg

http://img252.imageshack.us/my.php?image=error4bc5.jpg


EDIT here's another one:

http://img187.imageshack.us/my.php?image=error5xz8.jpg

Ohh yeah this crash happens when I press the menu button, the same in the first battle, this is a new kind of error or just my bad luck hahaha
Title: Re: Final Fantasy 7 Fighting and menu crash in the beginning
Post by: Net Sphere Engineer on 2007-03-06 19:16:26
do you need more images? or you're just busy? sorry but I really want to play the game
Title: Re: Final Fantasy 7 Fighting and menu crash in the beginning
Post by: dziugo on 2007-03-06 20:18:10
No, these are enough. I wouldn't expect a miraculous fix in 1 hour if i were you - considering that I don't have FF7 installed and I can't just debug-it-in-time. First thoughts after looking into this - it's some kind of linked list with misallocated memory - probably related to graphics.

I need some time to work this out and I can't promise anything.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy 7 Fighting and menu crash in the beginning
Post by: Net Sphere Engineer on 2007-03-07 02:46:55
Ohh ok, It's not that I'm telling you TO FIND A WAY TO FIX THAT RIGHT NOW :-D I just wanted to read this kind of thing you already wrote now, I wanted to know if this will take forever to fix or I will never be able to play it, well I hope someday you can give me a way to solve the problem, if not that's ok, thx a lot man!!!!!
Title: Re: Final Fantasy 7 Fighting and menu crash in the beginning
Post by: cloud7strife on 2007-03-07 12:17:13
a know this kind of thing...had the same probleme on the old computer...but worked with 95 97 98 and dint workd with XP...i dont renmber what I did ...but it workd after...now I have a new comp...it works on it now...try changing the exe to 95
Title: Re: Final Fantasy 7 Fighting and menu crash in the beginning
Post by: Net Sphere Engineer on 2007-03-07 13:44:38
The Win95 compatibility mode don't work I already tried, but thx for your help!!!!
Title: Re: Final Fantasy 7 Fighting and menu crash in the beginning
Post by: dziugo on 2007-03-09 09:24:59
One thing came to my mind. Assign one of the CPUs to the ff7 process (Task Manager -> ... something :)). Square might have a reason to use critical sessions in that code.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy 7 Fighting and menu crash in the beginning
Post by: James Pond on 2007-03-09 12:04:18
Set Processor Affinity dziugo.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy 7 Fighting and menu crash in the beginning
Post by: dziugo on 2007-03-09 14:04:43
Yeah, that thing :P Thanks, I'm one of those... CoreUno users :)
Title: Re: Final Fantasy 7 Fighting and menu crash in the beginning
Post by: Net Sphere Engineer on 2007-03-09 16:14:12
That was a nice suggestion I really got excited  :-D but like they say in this site: http://blogs.msdn.com/oldnewthing/archive/2005/08/17/452630.aspx there are some cases that we can't solve the problem like mine, well but I'm not good in this things I just search it because I have nothing to do, well for me it's doesn't work I tried assign only to CPU 0 and nothing, the same just for CPU 1 the game still crash

Ohh my!! this guy from the site seems to be important :lol: he wrote a book!!! Look for what they say about him:

"Raymond has been at Microsoft for many years and has seen many nuances of Windows that others could only ever hope to get a glimpse of. With this book, Raymond shares his knowledge, experience, and anecdotal stories, allowing all of us to get a better understanding of the operating system that affects millions of people every day. This book has something for everyone, is a casual read, and I highly recommend it!"


Yeahhh nothing to do with FF7 but you guys can be interest, this kind of thing are Greek to me but others can learn something
Title: Re: Final Fantasy 7 Fighting and menu crash in the beginning
Post by: Net Sphere Engineer on 2007-03-20 18:13:31
sorry but no more ideas? I guess I will have to play the psx version without the mod improvements then, that's a shame, I wanted to replay the game with the mods, but it's all my damn PC fault
Title: Re: Final Fantasy 7 Fighting and menu crash in the beginning
Post by: dziugo on 2007-03-20 22:15:38
Guess you don't read PMs. Oh well... Whatever.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy 7 Fighting and menu crash in the beginning
Post by: Net Sphere Engineer on 2007-03-21 16:14:39
Sorry I just didn't see it, This forum don't show any warning messages for Pm's? ohh well my bad I have to pay more attention

Tried that patch and the game crashes after the square logo and give me this error:

http://img255.imageshack.us/my.php?image=error1gr1.png

Didn't I have to give up and don't bother you anymore? maybe this problem is unsolvable or when you fix this will appear more? I wanted to play the game but if there is no way I have to live if that  :-(
Title: Re: Final Fantasy 7 Fighting and menu crash in the beginning
Post by: dziugo on 2007-03-21 17:41:42
It was supposed to be giving you another crash - it's just the address that looks weird. Did you use 1.02 US ff7.exe?
Title: Re: Final Fantasy 7 Fighting and menu crash in the beginning
Post by: Net Sphere Engineer on 2007-03-21 18:35:53
yeah I used that, but maybe I did something wrong, because you saw something strange
Title: Re: Final Fantasy 7 Fighting and menu crash in the beginning
Post by: dziugo on 2007-03-22 18:19:30
Would you mind sending me your ff7.exe (the one after applying my mod - which crashes at the startup) ?
Title: Re: Final Fantasy 7 Fighting and menu crash in the beginning
Post by: Net Sphere Engineer on 2007-03-23 21:28:09
Here it is:

http://rapidshare.com/files/22458240/ff7.rar.html

I hope it's ok to host in rapidshare I do not know anything better

Before send it to you I uninstalled and installed again and tried to make sure to not do anything wrong, I apllied the 1.02 US patch, deleted all the other patches and only apllied the one you send, something strange happened I was able to play futher, but in the second battle the game freezes again I guess you made some progress!!!!!

here I'm happy because the menu opened and I'm trying to cofigure the controls like the original psx version hehehe:

http://img339.imageshack.us/my.php?image=configyl7.png

here is the error:

http://img507.imageshack.us/my.php?image=errorek3.png

Title: Re: Final Fantasy 7 Fighting and menu crash in the beginning
Post by: dziugo on 2007-03-23 23:32:58
Good to hear that. I suspected, that your ff7.exe got mispatched. Now you're just getting the regular battle swirl crash. Install the most recent MGP (link in one of my previous messages in this thread) and you're good to go.

Now I wonder what might cause the "menu crash", since I only changed the game behaviour when it encounters this error...
Title: Re: Final Fantasy 7 Fighting and menu crash in the beginning
Post by: Net Sphere Engineer on 2007-03-24 03:42:40
Thanks a lot man for all your hard work, I hate to bring bad news for me of course  :-( but the game still crash, the menu crash I was talking about is perfect now!!!! with this other patch you updated in the first page I was able to go even further, but in one of the battles the game crashed, I tried again and the game crashed in the first battle again

I did a lot of combinations hehehe and no progress, like I tried to apply only the MGP with integrated BattleSwirlFix patch, the MGP with integrated BattleSwirlFix together with CrashMyApp, the CrashMyApp with the older YAMP and nothing
Title: Re: Final Fantasy 7 Fighting and menu crash in the beginning
Post by: dziugo on 2007-03-24 10:19:15
It's supposed to be MGP with integrated BattleSwirlFix and CrashMyApp together. Apply both, check if it worked (like - enter the menu :P) and post the address of the next error.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy 7 Fighting and menu crash in the beginning
Post by: samph on 2007-03-24 11:19:04
I am also having trouble with FFVII crashing in the first battle and menu. I am patched up to version 1.02 i think. And i am using compatibility mode set to 95.

Heres the error I get when it crashes from the battle.

Problem signature:
  Problem Event Name:   APPCRASH
  Application Name:   ff7.exe
  Application Version:   0.0.0.0
  Application Timestamp:   35feae6f
  Fault Module Name:   ff7.exe
  Fault Module Version:   0.0.0.0
  Fault Module Timestamp:   35feae6f
  Exception Code:   c0000005
  Exception Offset:   002bbecd
  OS Version:   6.0.6000.2.0.0.256.1
  Locale ID:   2057
  Additional Information 1:   26f4
  Additional Information 2:   1010d531de5f5e6b794b7cf524a042ff
  Additional Information 3:   b7c0
  Additional Information 4:   9ebcb41397a41d362d0daac7d30f4338

And here is the one i get when i try to access the menu

Problem signature:
  Problem Event Name:   APPCRASH
  Application Name:   ff7.exe
  Application Version:   0.0.0.0
  Application Timestamp:   35feae6f
  Fault Module Name:   ff7.exe
  Fault Module Version:   0.0.0.0
  Fault Module Timestamp:   35feae6f
  Exception Code:   c0000005
  Exception Offset:   0029b26d
  OS Version:   6.0.6000.2.0.0.256.1
  Locale ID:   2057
  Additional Information 1:   26f4
  Additional Information 2:   1010d531de5f5e6b794b7cf524a042ff
  Additional Information 3:   b7c0
  Additional Information 4:   9ebcb41397a41d362d0daac7d30f4338
And to make things more complicated, im running Vista :S

Hopefully someone can help.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy 7 Fighting and menu crash in the beginning
Post by: dziugo on 2007-03-24 14:49:14
When exactly did the first one happen?
Title: Re: Final Fantasy 7 Fighting and menu crash in the beginning
Post by: Net Sphere Engineer on 2007-03-24 18:21:15
sorry about my bad english but I already aplied both of then and like I said the menu now is opening fine, the problem is only with battles that after go further in the game one time, when I try another time the crashes happens in the first battle like before, here is the erros after the battle crash:

http://img523.imageshack.us/my.php?image=error1qy1.jpg

http://img523.imageshack.us/my.php?image=error2fm6.jpg

samph how can you save the erros? can you please say it to me? I can only get screen shots and it's a pain!!!!!
Title: Re: Final Fantasy 7 Fighting and menu crash in the beginning
Post by: dziugo on 2007-03-24 23:28:44
Once it's directly connected with battle screen, I'm off. It's too complex for me to "debug" if I don't have FF7 installed.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy 7 Fighting and menu crash in the beginning
Post by: Net Sphere Engineer on 2007-03-25 00:58:17
It's ok you already did a lot!!!!!! Well no luck for me then  :cry: Do you think any one will ever got interested in fix my problem? or I just give up and end this?
Title: Re: Final Fantasy 7 Fighting and menu crash in the beginning
Post by: Danieel on 2007-10-17 12:44:30
This is because you have corrupted Battle.lpg file. It is very common on the pirated versions of Final Fantasy 7 but if you have the original Final Fantasy 7 and the Install cd somewhere, just open the Final Fantasy director from the cd, and copy Battle.lpg from there. Replace it with the Battle.lpg in your computer and it should work fine. But if you have pirated version of the game.. Then.. well Tough luck :/..
Title: Re: Final Fantasy 7 Fighting and menu crash in the beginning
Post by: Dark_Ansem on 2007-10-29 00:21:05
I experience a crash just after entering the first time at Tifa's /th Heaven, after I press the button to get down with the flipper game, it says that ff7 encoutered an error. is it a movie error?