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Title: So weapons anyone?
Post by: andrewmarsh13 on 2007-04-03 03:25:51
So squeeble, weemus, and I are working on a pretty decent sized modding project now. Squeeble is converting a bunch of battle models from KH, and other Final Fantasy titles, weemus is working on converting the battle models to field models, and I'm working mostly on weapons and fixing textures. So I got a question for you guys. What kind of weapons would you like to see in FF7? I already have a couple of Shin-Ra made swords, a Kingdom Hearts themed Keyblade, and the Master Sword from The Legend of Zelda, so what else?

**EDIT**
On the note of swords... this better work in game or I might cry...
(http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/6416/firstswordde9.jpg)
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: hero101 on 2007-04-03 05:26:10
I would love to see the Gunblade in FF7!!  :-D  Possibley even the Lionheart would be mad if you could do that!!
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: andrewmarsh13 on 2007-04-03 05:28:17
(http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/9867/firstswordel5.jpg)

okay... so I got a little lazy with the circle part, I'll make a better version tomorrow or something.
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: squeeble on 2007-04-03 05:30:20
OOoo looks very nice hey if you want i can send you the KH2 one as reference.
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: andrewmarsh13 on 2007-04-03 05:35:06
That'd probably help, as long as I'm able to import it in either pcreator or milkshape.
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: squeeble on 2007-04-03 05:43:57
does milkshape except .3ds?
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: andrewmarsh13 on 2007-04-03 05:45:28
Yeah, I can import them. I use that because it was cheaper than 3D Studio Max lol
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: squeeble on 2007-04-03 05:47:45
OK well i'll emailem to you soon and looky what i did with the collector lol
(http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s280/squeeblish/collector.jpg)
P.S well i got max fairly cheap lol no more to the discussion.
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: andrewmarsh13 on 2007-04-03 05:51:12
NICE! I can't wait to see a member of SOLDIER with the Powerblade...
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: squeeble on 2007-04-03 05:57:44
Oh yeah and to make the porting proccess quickeer instead of making the models in seperate peices try joining them and exporting them as one peice. Same with the uvmapping if u make your textures then pile them all into one file it has to be somthing lik 64x128 and just double that number if you want a higher res texture. Just pointing this out coz if you dont do it i have to anyway so yeah and keep the good work.
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: andrewmarsh13 on 2007-04-03 06:16:21
Heh... I read that AFTER I got done messing around with the Advent Children sword... oh well...
(http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/6058/firstswordjk5.jpg)
This is really just squeeble sending me a model and me looking at it, but here's what we'll probably use for the Advent Children sword
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: squeeble on 2007-04-03 06:50:42
If somehow you could rid of those bandage marks that would be really good. Oh and heres a first class soldier holding your powerblade.
(http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s280/squeeblish/shinrapowerblade.jpg)
Oh and i've had a really good idea aswell, seeing as cloud is wearing a soldier uniform if i tweak the cloud peices and maybe have you go over the textures for the different soldier classes we would have a brand spankin new soldier :-D
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: andrewmarsh13 on 2007-04-03 07:14:13
3 things.
1) AWESOME
2) I'll get rid of the bandages tomorrow
3) Changing the textures a bit will be easy I think. We just need the helmet head for them.
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: squeeble on 2007-04-03 07:22:03
Ok well to prove i can do more than just port things over wich takes minimal skill.

made from tutorial not very difficult
(http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s280/squeeblish/dreadnaughtrender.jpg)

made this myself from scratch took me 5 days of work the only problem you might notice... I dont know how to texture lol
(http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s280/squeeblish/tankcompleteclayrender.jpg)

so i can make things aswell but the reason im doing the porting aswell is because its not practical taking a week to make every model and theres like 200 models so like square said with a full team and five years we could do it lmao. So later on il work on that helmet and stuff.


**EDIT** Ok i have a a gunblade here from KH2 ready to put into the game, now the question is who should it goe to the obvious answer isnt cloud beleive it or not because the gunblade is a small one handed weapon. So it could go to vincent or perhaps yuffie as her weapons are all one handed or i could do sumthing really weird and attach it to barrett's gunarm lol. I will be awaiting input from the community until i proceed further.
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: andrewmarsh13 on 2007-04-03 13:24:09
Vincent definitely. So I got the craziest idea last nighti n bed that I might want to take on tonight after I'm done with that sword... making textures for Safer Sephiroth...Wish me luck on that one...
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: squeeble on 2007-04-04 02:28:50
Gunblade works really well ingame. :-D
(http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s280/squeeblish/vincentgunblade.jpg)
The reason his eye's look weird is because i swapped the texture with the gunblade so he now has gunblade eyes lol... I plan on puting the DOC Vincent ingame but my computer can't run PCSX2 so i'll have a lok around and see if i can get a hold of them :wink:.
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: Psychotic Ninja on 2007-04-04 04:08:27
damn. vincent looks like as if he has a claw AND a sword for hands
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: squeeble on 2007-04-04 04:38:51
I think that's just the angle the shot was taken from. This might give you a better idea.
(http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s280/squeeblish/vingunblade2.jpg)

(http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s280/squeeblish/vingunblade3.jpg)

I sure do love to post screenshots :-P.
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: Rancid Cheese on 2007-04-04 04:42:52
That is fantastic!

I gotta say at first I thought Cloud should have the Gunblade but now that I see Vincent with it you sure convinced me otherwise nice one! Is that from KH1/2? How about the weird Bandaged keyblade Sora gets for beating Sephiroth in KH2 . . . can't remember it's name. Or the Griever themed Keyblade from KH1 I like that one . . .

In terms of other weapons what games can you source from or do you model some yourself it'd be easier to make suggestions if I knew what your limitations were . . .
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: squeeble on 2007-04-04 05:04:38
Well i can get my hands on anything *cough**cough* so just throw an idea at me and i'll say yes or no and for what reason sort of thing :-).
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: Rancid Cheese on 2007-04-04 06:29:51
Chappu's sword from FFX would be nice,
Yuna's summoner staff from FFX for Aeris or some of the cooler one's for Cid
Wakka's blitzball's for Yuffie and maybe Princess Peach's Turnips from Smash Bros. Melee or a pokeball etc
The homerun bat from Smash Bros. Melee instead of the Nail bat
Some random gun from Halflife for Vincent or Yuna's "Gunner" gun from X-2

That's just off the top my head I could go on forever . . .

Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: squeeble on 2007-04-04 06:44:21
Well i think chappu's sword is the brotherhood that blue thing yeah, yunas staff are easy done and swapping kimhari's for cid's. As for the homerun bat i made a nail bat a while ago wich was just some textures i found of google and a baseball bat i found on turbosquid lol. Plus i could make pokeball or a turnip and get andrew to texture them :wink:.
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: Landarma on 2007-04-04 12:34:56
What about Standard SOLDIER-Issued sword which was shown in Crisis Core Trailer?
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: squeeble on 2007-04-04 23:30:07
lol I had a bit of a go at making it the other day but could'nt be bothered so i'll leave that task up to you andrew :wink:.
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: Rancid Cheese on 2007-04-05 13:19:59
How about Dante's swords from all the DMC games and maybe his Ifrit Gauntlets for Tifa, hmm?

Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: ultima espio on 2007-04-05 16:47:31
Gunblade works really well ingame. :-D
The reason his eye's look weird is because i swapped the texture with the gunblade so he now has gunblade eyes lol... I plan on puting the DOC Vincent ingame but my computer can't run PCSX2 so i'll have a lok around and see if i can get a hold of them :wink:.

Good luck finding them, since nobody has ripped them yet. I searched high and low but found nothing. Maybe yaz0r will make a viewer.....
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: squeeble on 2007-04-05 21:28:35
You use Pcsx2 to play DOC then you use Dxripper and select Pcsx2 as thw direct x app you want to run, then you get the models on screen you want then dxripper records it and dumps the ripped models to file.
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: andrewmarsh13 on 2007-04-06 00:54:01
So I finished the sword from Advent Children (I haven't been home in a couple of days, my band has been recording an acoustic CD). I'm going to look into getting pictures and making the SOLDIER issued sword soon, so it will probably be the next thing I tackle.

Here's the AC sword in all of it's glory:
(http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/1870/firstswordlv7.jpg)
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: squeeble on 2007-04-06 01:03:33
Aaww Andrew awesome job man it looks fantastic, everything seems to be coming along really nicely atm. As for the band thing thats sounds awesome man. Oh and ive got some FF weapons references if you want them?
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: andrewmarsh13 on 2007-04-06 01:22:41
Sure man, e-mail them to me. I think I have most of Saturday off from recording so I'll probably be able to get a couple of weapons done if I don't suck.
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: Psychotic Ninja on 2007-04-06 02:06:40
sweet ac sword. now to edit the omnislash lmt so its like it in the movie, then the 3 mods(wepons and teh kh chars including the field version(s)) will b(along w/the omnislash*) awsom









* its just deam of mine and maby others and i kno it would b very very very very hard to do/next to impossible/impossible but 1 can dream
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: squeeble on 2007-04-07 02:48:16
OK andrew finished the sword and sent it over for converting. Here are the results.

(http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s280/squeeblish/Apr07200712-36-58PM.jpg)

Works quite well ingame, but i did swap it with the ultima sword so this is what happens when your health is low :lol:..

(http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s280/squeeblish/Apr07200712-40-36PM.jpg)
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: Psychotic Ninja on 2007-04-07 21:14:34
lol blue sword. now just gata make it so it breaks a part during omnislash ^.^ and change the animation so it fits the movie
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: squeeble on 2007-04-07 22:27:13
 :lol:Grim i appreciate your enthusiasm but it's not gona happen man so i think you should stop building it up in you head lol. But i think we can change the names of the weapons to match the new ones.
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: Psychotic Ninja on 2007-04-07 22:50:03
ik... i just wish it could b done
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: squeeble on 2007-04-07 23:12:16
Hey it's ok it's still gonna be pretty awesome when it's done. Oh and i would fix your spelling before you get yelled at :-P. Also to stay on topic, I'm working on swapping some of kimhari's weapons for cid so I'll update that later..
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: Rancid Cheese on 2007-04-09 14:00:40
Nice work and I kinda like the Blue Buster Sword or whatever we refer to the AC sword as . . .
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: knives on 2007-04-09 16:54:44
Haven't been around here all that much but I have a few ideas.

1: Gotta have a lightsaber somewhere.
2: Don't just got for badass, sometimes simple things such as rubber chickens and metal pans can do wonders.
3: Shields (not too sure it'd be possible but maybe some yuffie arm switching would work.
4: Have fun and take your time on this one.
5: Tifa with Beowulf from DMC = win
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: andrewmarsh13 on 2007-04-09 18:32:19
May I present to you... The Buster Axe:
(http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/8072/axebe1.jpg)
I had an idea when I was in bed last night to make a cross between an axe and The Buster Sword. This is what I came up with.
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: Psychotic Ninja on 2007-04-09 18:48:08
i like it. its um...originale (for ff7) but it looks more like a spear from ff9. my question is who should have it?
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: andrewmarsh13 on 2007-04-09 19:41:03
I was thinking of having Cloud use it (I'm trying to make most of his weapons first)

1: Gotta have a lightsaber somewhere.

(http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/7617/saberwo2.jpg)
Ask and ye shall recieve. I was thinking of making Loz's weapon for Tifa at some point.
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: Psychotic Ninja on 2007-04-09 20:18:12
y not kadaja's for cloud? but i was thinking mby cid could have the axe/spear
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: andrewmarsh13 on 2007-04-09 20:51:11
I probably will make Kadaj's sword eventutally, but that will be really easy, so I'm not going to jump on it. I don't tihnk that axe would look really good for Cid, but I might make something like it for him.
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: squeeble on 2007-04-09 22:48:42
Woo hoo great work andrew, haven't seen you round here the last few days and was wandering where you where :lol:. I'm really liking the buster sword, sendem round to me and I'll put them ingame for you. At a later date i was thinking of changing the names on all the weapons so they match the new ones. As i saw with the spell patch you can change the name of the spells so why not the weapons aye? Also when all of a characters weapons are finished we'll have to figure out wich weapon should be switched with witch.
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: andrewmarsh13 on 2007-04-10 03:32:17
I decided that I didn't want to make an exact replica of Kadaj's sword, so I made one with a similar design:
(http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/1600/kadajxx4.jpg)

**Edit** On Second thought... maybe I should just make it look like Kadaj's sword:
(http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/7476/kadajwz7.jpg)
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: Rancid Cheese on 2007-04-11 13:52:18
Why not have both but have Kadaj's the stronger of the two and one of the swords you get for completing a task rather than just buying . . . 
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: B Tizo on 2007-04-11 19:16:57
So, Barret has a Chainsaw for a weapon, what about the Lancer from Gears of War (the machine gun with a chainsaw attached).

Household items wouild be kind of funny, especially on Cait Sith.  Seeing him a frying pan or spatula would be kinda funny.  Cid with broom, too.

It might be funny to give Cloud a dagger.  He'd still use both hands, but the blade would be really small.

I love the lightsaber, what about Darth Maul's double lightsaber for Aeris (would be sweet) or Cid. 

You could give Yuffie a Spartan Shield, a la the 300.  Also, seeing King Leonidas in the game would be awesome. 

More axes would be cool.  Keep up the great work!
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: Psychotic Ninja on 2007-04-11 20:24:22
Quote
It might be funny to give Cloud a dagger.  He'd still use both hands, but the blade would be really small.
he would eather b cutting 1 of his hands(mby both) or his other hand would b holdin ntn.  :-D  but if u could could u make it so he's holdin 2 daggers like zidane does
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: andrewmarsh13 on 2007-04-11 20:32:54
So, Barret has a Chainsaw for a weapon, what about the Lancer from Gears of War (the machine gun with a chainsaw attached).

Household items wouild be kind of funny, especially on Cait Sith.  Seeing him a frying pan or spatula would be kinda funny.  Cid with broom, too.

It might be funny to give Cloud a dagger.  He'd still use both hands, but the blade would be really small.

I love the lightsaber, what about Darth Maul's double lightsaber for Aeris (would be sweet) or Cid. 

You could give Yuffie a Spartan Shield, a la the 300.  Also, seeing King Leonidas in the game would be awesome. 

More axes would be cool.  Keep up the great work!

Well for the most part, at least at first, I'm trying to make weapons based off of the world of FF7 (with the exception of some weird ones like The Master Sword "Toxic's Keyblade" and the Lightasber) but once I start running short on FF7 themed swords, I'll probably take some of these into concideration. I'll probably do the household items for Cait Sith. I like that idea.
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: Jari on 2007-04-11 20:36:04
1337_grim: Have you by any chance read the rules (http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=5834.0)?

Let's see, out of the 19 posts you have made, you have broken them in every one. My patience is wearing thin, either read them and obey them, or risk being banned. Your choice.
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: ice_cold513 on 2007-04-11 21:47:57
andrewmarsh13

I got one for you

See your Kadaj's sword what if you flip the one blade so it like. ()
Nice work so far

To Jari
Good too see your holding back

To 1337_grim
You are using a lot of IM chat in your post's
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: andrewmarsh13 on 2007-04-11 22:11:43
Ooooh, I really like that idea, I might work on that right now actually
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: Jari on 2007-04-11 22:43:05
ice_cold513: My what?


EDIT: I don't think that you are in a position to judge anyone, seeing that you still haven't heard of punctuation. Not to mention several other things related to English. So, I'd really, really suggest that you shut the fuck up.
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: Wintermute on 2007-04-12 00:40:09
I think you misunderstood him. I guess what he really meant was:
"It is good to see that you are holding yourself back."

But this is a prime example why people should at least try to write in full English to avoid such situations. Since the internet is depending on written language only, you can't judge your counterpart's gestures or manner of speaking and thus this could lead to misunderstandings.
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: andrewmarsh13 on 2007-04-12 01:03:38
Oooh! I got an idea! How about we take all off-topic english debate to PMs so we can stay on topic in this thread?

Speaking of on-topic:
(http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/7530/dualhoundgw7.jpg)
I hope this will not look like total garbage in-game.

**EDIT**
(http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/4383/helictq7.jpg)
The Helix-Blade
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: Jari on 2007-04-12 02:34:54
Wintermute: Oh, I understood him quite well. I just don't tolerate it.

andrewmarsh13: If needed I'll split the meta to another thread.

Oh, dear ice_cold513; we are discussing about introducing short term bans. Should work well for people are just too lazy. Intentionally break rules: one week ban. Intentionally break rules again, two week ban. Intentionally break the fucking rules yet again, four week ban. And so forth. Eventually even the most stubborn people learn. Or will simply be kept in check by being constantly banned.
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: ice_cold513 on 2007-04-12 09:23:00
Nice there andrewmarsh13

Thank you for showing that sword. What that hand thing?

Say when i restart doing my Sephiroth patch
Can i use some of your sword's?

andrewmarsh13
I'm willing to respect your wishes
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: squeeble on 2007-04-12 09:53:00
Awesome work andrew I'll have those ingame in a day or two. But i wanted to mention although your modeling and texture work is fantastic, your uv mapping is quite inefficient and was wandering if next time you make a model you could send it to me to map. Because as is there far to big, as in that by the time i stretch a 512x512 texture out to fit ingame it becomes 2048x512 so i don't lose image quality but the .bmp becomes 1mb and seeing as each character has about eleven weapons it becomes quite large quite quickly if you can see where I'm going with this.
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: andrewmarsh13 on 2007-04-12 17:26:33
Nice there andrewmarsh13

Thank you for showing that sword. What that hand thing?

Say when i restart doing my Sephiroth patch
Can i use some of your sword's?

The hand thing is the Dual Hound from Advent Children... well kinda'. It will be for Tifa. All three weapons used by Kadaj's Gang will be in the game.
Dual Hound- Tifa
Velvet Nightmare- Vincent
Souba- Cloud

As far as you using any of them, I don't know yet. We have to see which ones get used in the mod that I'm working with squeeble on.

squueble- Sure, I'll start sending you models to map. I've never really been all that great at UV mapping.
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: Rancid Cheese on 2007-04-12 23:58:24
Nice stuff, Loz's "Dual Hound" seems to be coming along.

How about Barret's mega hand cannon and even the metal hand it starts of as instead of the <weapon name here> :? he runs up and smacks them with, the spike ball one . . .  :|
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: andrewmarsh13 on 2007-04-13 01:04:35
Yeah, I plan on making all weapons from Advent Children present in the game. They will probably be all of the character's final weapons, with the exception of Tifa, because she just used leather gloves. So yeah, Barret will have the new cannon arm, Cloud already has the First Sword, Vincent will probably just get something from DoC because I really don't think there's a clear shot of his gun in the movie, so on and so forth.

**Edit**
No screens for it yet, but I'm finally working on Zack's Sword from Crisis Core

(http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/5868/zacksworddv9.jpg)
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: Rancid Cheese on 2007-04-15 19:52:46
 :-o

WANT!
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: Psychotic Ninja on 2007-04-15 23:31:01
I got a weapon idea. I'm not sure how to explane it but ill give it a shot. (video to show you what i want if needed). you know the dagger looking weapon that can be attached to the first sword (ac sword that cloud uses). it'll be cool to use that. (i could probaly do it with the tatorial (sp) that squeeble made). If your not sure what i'm talking about here's the video i promised

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCjGvIJzk6k (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCjGvIJzk6k) just stop at 6 seconds and look to your right. (cloud's left)
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: squeeble on 2007-04-15 23:40:25
Yeah but it might not look right ingame coz it's a one handed weapon, and cloud holds everything with two hand in FF7 so it might be a bit small. Definitely worth a try though.
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: Chrisu on 2007-04-16 07:19:47
Yeah but it might not look right ingame coz it's a one handed weapon, and cloud holds everything with two hand in FF7 so it might be a bit small. Definitely worth a try though.
Wouldnt it be against storyline if cloud has in FF7 the weapons he has in AC?
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: B Tizo on 2007-04-16 07:32:19
I don't really think the goal of recreating weapons is to remain with the "storyline."  What's the fun of adding mods if you have to stay within the story?  For example: Playing as Sephiroth or using Zak.  It's all for fun.  And, who doesn't want to see Aeris wielding a double light saber?
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: squeeble on 2007-04-16 07:49:54
Thats a damn good point there B Tizo but it probly wont fit anyway but it's worth a shot. But as for field and such I'm trying to get proper FF7 stuff.
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: B Tizo on 2007-04-16 09:07:32
Thank you very much!  I'm loving all the screens I'm seeing from your mod's progress.  I can't wait for the release!  I hope your little "competition" nets you some quality people and helps facilitate the mod's release. 

Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: squeeble on 2007-04-16 09:28:52
Yeah me too XD. Afterwards id love to do some sort of battlefield mod, if anyone has seen the attack on midgar in DOC thats what i would be after, minus the top end graphics :lol:..
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: Ace266 on 2007-04-16 10:52:37
for clouds weapons you might look into Aurons Weapons for some inspiration as well as some of the weapons in FFXII

Cid - Also FFXII has some lance type weapons too

Vincent - FFXI has some gun type weapons, also FFX2 has some gun weapons as well, Dirge of Cerberus as well
(I'm starting to think about what monsters could be put in for his transformations, I know his flame and chaos forms are on Dirge of Cerberus, don't know about others)

Tifa - at the moment I'm thinking FFXI might be the only newer game to be able to get High res weapons

Cait Sith and Red XIII might be a lost cause lol or custom onlys

Yuffie - Her kingdom hearts weapons

Aeries (too tired to remember spelling...) - FFXII has some staff weappons, FFX & FFX2 do

Barrett - I suppose you could just cut off the handle of other large guns and strap it to his arm (lol)

(I haven't played FFXI so I have no clue about its weapons)
Also here is a weapon from XI I just found a screenshot of that looks very similar to one you guys were playing with

http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/ahturhgan/equipment/algol.html
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: Rancid Cheese on 2007-04-16 11:36:23
Ace266:
I don't think anyone's found a way to get the models out of Dirge yet what with it not being supported by the PS2 emulator but maybe someday . . .

Yeah but it might not look right ingame coz it's a one handed weapon, and cloud holds everything with two hand in FF7 so it might be a bit small. Definitely worth a try though.

Pity there's no way to change the battle poses then . . .

Although you could just increase the scale of it and anyone who moans about it doesn't get the download link  :-D
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: andrewmarsh13 on 2007-04-16 19:17:14
Yeah but it might not look right ingame coz it's a one handed weapon, and cloud holds everything with two hand in FF7 so it might be a bit small. Definitely worth a try though.
Wouldnt it be against storyline if cloud has in FF7 the weapons he has in AC?

Well the way I figured it would work out is that everyone could get their weapons from AC, but they would be their Ultimate weapons. So that way, the weapon they end up with at the end of the game is the weapon they have in AC.
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: andrewmarsh13 on 2007-04-16 22:47:13
I'm almost done with Cloud's weapons. Here's one I call Thanatos:
(http://img458.imageshack.us/img458/8794/thanatosvp0.jpg)

**EDIT**
Crap! I hit reply instead of Modify... my bad.
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: squeeble on 2007-04-16 23:39:38
Heres my idea for a weapon, the hammer from super smash bros melee XD, instead of the nail bat. :-D Nice work by the way.
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: andrewmarsh13 on 2007-04-17 00:40:02
That's funny, because I was thinking of making a hammer anyways. Squeeble... you're going to hate me for this hammer, but I have to use a big texture file for it, I tried shrinking it and it made it look like crap. But anyhoo, here's the Smash Hammer:
(http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/5452/smashhammerlw6.jpg)
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: squeeble on 2007-04-17 00:58:21
XD dw nice work sendem round and I'll putem ingame I'l also post up pics of those weapons i said I'd put in last week  :lol:.
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: andrewmarsh13 on 2007-04-17 01:17:56
Give me untill a little bit later tonight, I onl have 2 more swords to finish up and I got all of Cloud's weapons done. I got a list of all the weapons and where you get them, so I figured that I'd use that to come up with what weapons to replace with what.

(http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/5161/chainbladeue4.jpg)
Here's the Chainsaw Blade. Now all I have to do is finish the texture on the Junk Sword, and I'll almost be done. Here's a list of Cloud's Weapons and what they replace:

Buster Sword stays.
Shin-Ra Powerblade- Stolen from SOLDIER: 3rd in Shin-Ra Tower (Replaces Hardedge)
Zack's Sword- Shop in Kalm Town (Replaces Mythril Saber)
Shin-Ra Collector's Blade- 150+ Performing in Junon, shop in North Corel (Replaces Force Stealer)
Toxic's Keyblade- Shop in Cosmo Canyon (Replaces Butterfly Edge)
Buster Axe- Nibelheim Mountains (Replaces Rune Blade)
Junk Sword- Man outside of Shop in Rocket Town (replaces Yoshiyuki)
Helix Blade- Shop in Wutai (Replaces Murasame)
Smash Hammer- Temple of the Ancients (Replaces Nail Bat)
Souba- Shop at Icicle Inn (replaces Organics)
Master Sword- Gaea's Cliff (Replaces Enhance Sword)
Lightsaber- Shop in Mideel (Replaces Crystal Sword)
Chainsaw Blade- Downed Shin-Ra plane (replaces Heaven's Cloud)
Thanatos- Ancient Forest (Replaces Apocalypse)
???- Defeat Proud Clod (I haven't made this one yet)
First Sword- Defeat Ultima Weapons (Replaces Ultima Sword)
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: Ace266 on 2007-04-17 03:16:06
I noticed your taking inspiration from other sources so here is another game that contains weapons that you might like, its called Monster Hunter its a Capcom Game

Weapons types in game:
Great sword types
Hammers
Sword'n Shields
Lances
Dual swords
bowguns

Monster Hunter 2 weapons (wasn't released in US)
Bows
Gunlance
Hunting Horn
Samurai Sword

Here are some sample pics
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f92/Ace266/MH2weps.gif
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f92/Ace266/mh2char2.gif
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: Hyunckel on 2007-04-17 03:30:00
Hum monster hunter!!!
Here is my topic on metagames (french forum) about MHfreedom2 on PSP:
56K High WARNING!! About 10MO the page! Yeah i love pictures!!

http://www.metagames-eu.com/forums/showthread.php?t=82700 (http://www.metagames-eu.com/forums/showthread.php?t=82700)
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: Rancid Cheese on 2007-04-17 11:23:24
The Smash Hammer and Chainsaw Blade are great looking, did you change the NailBat slot so that it takes Materia now or is it just the same?

Actually is it even possible to change that? :?
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: Vyper on 2007-04-17 15:45:57
so anyway i found this board with some help from someone from another board (not sure what his username is on this one :P)

anyway, how about a new masamune? that would be freaking kickass!
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: andrewmarsh13 on 2007-04-18 01:59:25
Okay idea time. I need to make one more sword, should it be a serious FF7-world sword, or a novelty sword. I don't have any ideas right now for the FF7-world one, but I was thinking that if I wanted to go novelty that I would make the Soul Calibur.
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: squeeble on 2007-04-18 02:59:42
That's nightmares massive sword yeah? If so definitely yes, infact i might see if i can rip it from the game.
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: andrewmarsh13 on 2007-04-18 03:58:54
No that's the Soul Edge I think, I'm talking about the blue one. I'm going to make Cloud's version of it.
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: squeeble on 2007-04-18 04:35:26
Oh ok well I'm still gonna see if a can get my hands on the soul edge, and see what that looks like on cloud.
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: Hyunckel on 2007-04-18 15:19:07
Oh ok well I'm still gonna see if a can get my hands on the soul edge, and see what that looks like on cloud.

There is a mod for morrowind called Nightmare Fixed (containing SoulEdge as well) . Maybe you can used the meshes (nif format) .
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: squeeble on 2007-04-18 23:27:25
I'll see I'm gonna have to contact the mod maker first and ask permission, I don't wanna just steal it from him  :lol:.
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: andrewmarsh13 on 2007-04-18 23:35:29
I already found a Soul Edge Model and E-Mailed the creator asking if we could use it, so don't worry about it. I'm just waiting for a reply
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: Hyunckel on 2007-04-19 00:40:26
Author : Elric Melnibone.

Website:
http://www.elricm.com/index.htm (http://www.elricm.com/index.htm)

Screen:
(http://www.casimages.com/img/jpg/070419025036492105.jpg)
Direct Download:
http://www.elricm.com/nuke/html/modules.php?op=modload&name=Downloads&file=index&req=getit&lid=2382 (http://www.elricm.com/nuke/html/modules.php?op=modload&name=Downloads&file=index&req=getit&lid=2382)

Quotes from readme:
Quote
Nightmare Armor - Finished Version

Nightmare Armor meshes and Souledge mesh by Vlix/Max Edwin.

Special Usage Comments:

I remember that Max Edwin posted in 2004 that he was happy that his Swords of Morrowind pack had been
uploaded to Euro-RPG,and he kept that link at his site for a long time, rather than reupload it to his site.
So he was glad to see his work kept available.  If this mod becomes unavailable again, please do upload it
to a mod download site.  But please, also keep it intact and unchanged, including this readme.

I also remember reading on his site that it was OK for others to use his work in mods.
So it's OK for this armor and weapon to be used in mods.  Please include this readme with your mod.

Quoted directly from http://roninproductions.tv/vlix/ :

--------

All the models are created from scratch by myself, only the texture that are not completely my works

--------

Who Am I ???????

- Name : Max Edwin
- Age : 19
- School Major : Multimedia
- my email : [email protected] (pls ask me first if u want to add my msn, there r too many unknown ppl on my list >_<......)
- Nationality : Indonesian ( im not a native english speaker, sorry for my bad english :-) )



I think you don't need his agrrement (see above) , but if you absolutely want it, send him an email.
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: squeeble on 2007-04-19 01:54:49
Waddya reckon andrew you wanna go with this one?

**EDIT**  :lol: I didn't see your post so i went ahead and started converting this one, well I'll post a screen of this up later but I'll wait for you to get a reply from your guy.

**EDIT 2** heres some screens.
(http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s280/squeeblish/souledge3.jpg)

(http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s280/squeeblish/souledge2.jpg)
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: Hyunckel on 2007-04-19 02:09:35
also note that the meshes contained in the archive are in NIF format, i think there is a plugin for 3dsmax 5 and 6 , and maybe 7-8 , you'll have to google for them.
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: Vyper on 2007-04-19 04:03:02
no masamune?

me = sad

 :cry:

see that? that's my sad face. please make it go away.
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: squeeble on 2007-04-19 04:09:15
I don't think the masamune would look right on cloud because of the way he holds his sword, not to mention when he puts it on his back after a battle it would appear to clip through the ground.

**EDIT** ROFL!!
(http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s280/squeeblish/rofl.jpg)
Better  :lol:
(http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s280/squeeblish/better.jpg)
Hope you don't mind but i had to do a bit of editing on it so it fit his hands properly.
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: Hyunckel on 2007-04-19 05:22:33
wow squeeble; you're a god, ahem, after my Almighty little Sephiroth off course  :-D
Anyway, may i suggest some swords? if yes i will dig up some mod files or directly nif files from my HDD lol. Or you could search for them on planetelderscrolls ...

Well SoulEdge is a very good sword, well too good,  too detailed to fit ingame i guess.

Anyway you're very talented at 3d i see. Don't even know how you imported the model? Did you find the NIF importer?? I know there is one for milkshape or blender around ...

GREAT JOB man.  :wink:
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: squeeble on 2007-04-19 05:26:05
 :lol: I just googled .nif plugin max, see google can find anything lol. I'm not sure what you mean to detailed to fit ingame i already posted ingame screens of it?
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: andrewmarsh13 on 2007-04-19 05:47:10
Yeah, I like the Soul Edge better than the one I got anways. The Smash Hammer looks awesome in game by the way.

Vyper: No Masamune for Cloud. Sephiroth already uses it.
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: Hyunckel on 2007-04-19 09:05:01
:lol: I just googled .nif plugin max, see google can find anything lol. I'm not sure what you mean to detailed to fit ingame i already posted ingame screens of it?
I meant the model for the SoulEdge is too much detailed compared to all others 3d models in FFVII . It appears really better than all others.
Like if you put a Sephiroth from Kingdom Hearts into FFVII and let oll others besides normal model . He will appear outclassing others in term of quality rendering.

Was it clear?
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: squeeble on 2007-04-19 09:19:10
Well sort of... but I understood what you ment, infact though the soul edge isn't very detailed at all it's just got a nice texture wich happened to be that screenshot you put up earlier :lol:. I'm not sure if they made that or just took a screen shot from something.
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: Ace266 on 2007-04-19 09:26:16
I swear that hammer looks like something from that show One Piece.
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: B Tizo on 2007-04-19 09:28:49
Whacka-Enemy!!!  Seriously, the Smash Hammer looks like the hammer thing on those kiddie games!  Awesome, simply awesome.  I can't wait to use these things.  The chainsaw blade, the Smash Hammer, the helix sword, a lightsaber!  Please, please, please, PLEASE keep up the good work!!
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: squeeble on 2007-04-19 09:32:26
@ACE266
ROFL that's exactly what i though when he sent it to me :lol:. Maybe if you ask really nicely he'll put luffy's skull and bones on it.
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: Hyunckel on 2007-04-19 09:55:01
Whacka-Enemy!!!  Seriously, the Smash Hammer looks like the hammer thing on those kiddie games!  Awesome, simply awesome.  I can't wait to use these things.  The chainsaw blade, the Smash Hammer, the helix sword, a lightsaber!  Please, please, please, PLEASE keep up the good work!!


I'm more eager to play better models (ie: KH1/2 models) , but i can resolve my troubles in exporting my works from 3dsmax, then i would try with weapons as well (got a fairly good amount of swords mods from morrowind you know) ...
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: Vyper on 2007-04-19 15:23:23
Yeah, I like the Soul Edge better than the one I got anways. The Smash Hammer looks awesome in game by the way.

Vyper: No Masamune for Cloud. Sephiroth already uses it.
of course. i mean make a new one for sephy. like transfer the KH one or something......
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: squeeble on 2007-04-19 23:11:24
I already did that a while ago http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=6576.msg82375#msg82375 (http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=6576.msg82375#msg82375)
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: Damage on 2007-04-20 10:27:47
That's some awesome models you've got there, guys.
Ever thought of putting the Dragon Slayer (original Buster Sword) from the manga "Berserk" in the game? http://img402.imageshack.us/my.php?image=berserkv20c10p197copywu7.jpg (http://img402.imageshack.us/my.php?image=berserkv20c10p197copywu7.jpg)
I'm sure it would suit Cloud.
Oh, yeah. I've been around for a while, just haven't bothered to register until now.
Keep up the good work.
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: Hyunckel on 2007-04-20 11:10:36
That's some awesome models you've got there, guys.
Ever thought of putting the Dragon Slayer (original Buster Sword) from the manga "Berserk" in the game? http://img273.imageshack.us/img273/6228/berserk202kf.jpg (http://img273.imageshack.us/img273/6228/berserk202kf.jpg)
I'm sure it would suit Cloud.
Oh, yeah. I've been around for a while, just haven't bothered to register until now.
Keep up the good work.

Hum i think of two things:
1/this sword is not particulary diferent from the original buster one.
2/it would be esier to find 3d models pre existent of swords ...
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: Izban on 2007-04-20 11:45:27
What about something like brotherhood, from FF10 its different and you could probably get the model from the net.
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: Damage on 2007-04-20 17:55:40
That's some awesome models you've got there, guys.
Ever thought of putting the Dragon Slayer (original Buster Sword) from the manga "Berserk" in the game? http://img273.imageshack.us/img273/6228/berserk202kf.jpg (http://img273.imageshack.us/img273/6228/berserk202kf.jpg)
I'm sure it would suit Cloud.
Oh, yeah. I've been around for a while, just haven't bothered to register until now.
Keep up the good work.

Hum i think of two things:
1/this sword is not particulary diferent from the original buster one.
2/it would be esier to find 3d models pre existent of swords ...

Exactly. Square ripped Kentaro Miura off. They simply sliced the Dragon Slayer in half and put two holes in it, and named it the "Buster Sword".
Anyway... There ARE pre existing models of the sword. I believe there's been 2 Berserk games so far. (One for the Dreamcast and one for the PS2)
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: Thanatos on 2007-04-23 20:38:13
Hi I'm new here I thought of a few ideas for weapons for Cloud and Yuffie, based on the weapons from FFVIII:

First there is the Punishment Gunblade which apart from the handle would be suitable to use as a broadsword:
(http://www.rpgclassics.com/shrines/psx/ff8/weaponpics/punishment.gif)

For Yuffie, Rinoas disk launching weapons may be suitable for her, both the Rising Sun and Shooting Star appeal to me as weapons that could be by Yuffie used in FFVII:
(http://www.rpgclassics.com/shrines/psx/ff8/weaponpics/risingsun.gif) (http://www.rpgclassics.com/shrines/psx/ff8/weaponpics/shootingstar.gif)

Sorry about the image size but those were the largest pictures I could find.
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: dante66 on 2007-04-24 19:14:33
(http://www.morrowind.pl/screen/Swords%20of%20Morrowind/Brotherhood%20Sword.2.jpg)

(http://www.trueswords.com/images/prod/c/tidus_brotherhood_sword_final_fantasy_540.jpg)

You should make that one, Tidus's best sword IMO. Best looking anyway.
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: Rancid Cheese on 2007-04-25 10:58:01
I recommended that sword on page 1 dante, of course you did post pics so kudos . . .
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: Valcus Valentine on 2007-05-01 15:12:01
Those weapons look veeery nice! When will they be avaible for download?
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: andrewmarsh13 on 2007-05-05 09:51:45
(http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/6227/vinnieqs2.jpg)
For Vincent

**EDIT**
(http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/2702/spearlm1.jpg)
For Cid
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: zackner on 2007-05-06 10:40:23
(http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/248/devoradordealmas2qq8.th.png) (http://img129.imageshack.us/my.php?image=devoradordealmas2qq8.png)

This is for cloud
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: squeeble on 2007-05-06 23:23:29
We don't need anymore suggestions on Cloud's weapons I should point out, we already have more than enough of clouds weapons.
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: Dark_Ansem on 2007-05-08 15:08:39
What about a Colt Single Action Army for Vincent?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colt_Single_Action_Army

Tough I wished an Odin sword for any character... the one from Final Fantasy 8...

for yuffie:
http://www.lalama.eu/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=12&products_id=1048&zenid=a1532825f42b3049939099cbff32c376
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: murak on 2007-05-08 15:39:03
I hope squeeble dosen't mind me making some custom weapons for the minority, But when I get some free time i'll make your soul eater, shuriken and colt single action army as well as a odin sword. I was planning on making one for sephiroth anyway.
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: Dark_Ansem on 2007-05-08 19:16:38
I forgot to say one thing: the soul edge sword is simply awesome. Why not more soul calibur swords?
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: squeeble on 2007-05-08 23:19:59
Well because to many weapons creates a conflict of interest, and not everybody is going to know how to swap weapons around. Murak if you wish to make a weapons thread for your own patch that would be good as this is for my patch and having so many different weapons in one thread may confuse people, wich may make them think it would be for this patch but there not.
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: Cyberman on 2007-05-10 12:39:49
Is the PC version of FF7 restricted by the issues of no textures for weapons?
I know the PS1 version is.

Cyb
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: andrewmarsh13 on 2007-05-10 20:37:35
Nope. I don't know how it works on the PS1 version, but in the PC version, the weapon models are part of the character models. As a very important side note, squeeble might have to discontinue his work, for personal reasons. I'll let him announce all that though, what I'm hoping can happen is that I will resume work on the mod, but I'm not very good with character modeling, or making them work well in game, so I'm going to need some help if this mod is ever going to get finished.
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: zackxc on 2007-05-13 12:12:23
Hey just wondering when are you going to release this?
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: DarkVenomandCarnage on 2008-09-30 17:54:35
Hey just wondering when are you going to release this?
I also wish to know.
Also, with SE, you must have Soul calibur! :-D
I think the hammer should be moved/replaced with SC!
I agree with Darth Maul's Double-bladed lightsaber for Aerith
and I think that Beowolf for Tifa is in order.
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: Tsetra on 2008-09-30 18:37:22
I'm pretty sure it's safe to say that the answer is "Never" considering the last post.
Word of advice before the hailstorm of necromancy comes, don't get your hopes up for most of the modeling projects which don't already have downloads for betas. These topics were rampant back in the day. Almost none delivered.
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: DarkVenomandCarnage on 2008-09-30 18:42:14
I'm pretty sure it's safe to say that the answer is "Never" considering the last post.
Word of advice before the hailstorm of necromancy comes, don't get your hopes up for most of the modeling projects which don't already have downloads for betas. These topics were rampant back in the day. Almost none delivered.
Bummer... Oh well. :-(
Title: Re: So weapons anyone?
Post by: Tsetra on 2008-09-30 20:17:52
Yeah really. I think if someone isn't going to finish something, why bother posting about it? I can see if someone is just fooling around and showing off for the sake of presenting a possibility, but not when you're saying you're working on a big modding project. Some things are obvious, like KH ports, but then you get people going on about how they're going to make something spectacular... and then the topic fades into obscurity. I'm guilty of it I suppose, having mentioned I intend to redo the intro, but the difference is I still plan to when my schedule frees up again. Plus I've got a new method of doing it which to my knowledge will be a first in the FF7 community  :wink:

I wish I could work some magic with models cause I know they're popular topics and people love to look at them, but unfortunately that's just not my area of expertise.