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Miscellaneous Forums => General Discussion => Topic started by: Brokenheart on 2007-07-29 08:01:39
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I know this is asked alot and i dont need to be yelled at (Especially being that im new here) but i need help with the ruby weapon. Now i looked up facts of course but my people keep getting sucked up in whirlsand. and dont tell me that it doesnt do that with its claws in the ground because its done it to me countless times....it isnt impossible im just having some trouble. I'm going to ask for maybe a few strategies? I dont have kotr and im not getting it anytime soon lol nor do i have mime. I've also tried the 'lucky 7's' and right now thats my best bet.
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i suggest using the final attack +phoenix, but that's more for the emerald weapon, but to beat a weapon you just need to level up and play it by it's rules, emerald says not much materia (air tai force deals 1111 for every materia you have equipped), ruby says 1 on 1 fight, so level your best guy up and hope for the best and try different styles. such as counter+mime and use a combo before that such as hero drink and elixir, if you need some more elixirs, you can always use the W item glitch if you don't have many on your person.
(you get mime from one of the 4 sacred materia caves, just breed some chocobos or use a editor to warp to the materia cave's location if you do not wish to breed chocobos)
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lol I've played through the game 4 times. I used my phoenix-final attack link and my cloud is lvl 85. I tried to breed chocobos but it didnt work in my favor ;-; so, i just thought that my next option was beating ruby weapon with out it. (I also used the w-item glitch) i normally just use mega elixers even if i have one guy i know it sounds like wasting them but i can always get them back. Again my main problem is is that because i dont have any strong summons or attacks (Except bahamut zero and hades(for ruby)) and i didnt breed a gold chocobo (I've tried countless times and i've even looked for help on this matter too) it seems extremely difficult. But again i have been trying to get lucky 7's to work in my favor, my friend suggested it to me. it works for a while and i learned that it becomes easier especially being that when a character is in lucky 7's that the magic hammer takes out 7777 mp! Which means easier take down. the problem is i try to keep lucky 7's going and in order to do that i need to revive my other chars.... now i might sound crazy but ruby weapon seems to use that stupid whirl thing with its claws in the ground! oh i forgot to mention this is for the ps1. ^^;;; its not computer related at all.
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im not sure if this is going to help you but it sure helped me (no saved game editor/codebreaker or other cheating devises needed). what i had was cloud alive (only one alive) the phoenix + revive (both master level) the 4x cut (cloud) 99 elixors and megaelixors (w-item glitch) and as much summons as possible (no kotor) and cloud at level 99, hp 9999, and mp 999 limit level was 4 and was full. (didnt have mime eather) then when the battle started i did omnislash then attacked healed when needed used a few summons when i thought it was needed, washed, wrinced, and repeated.
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its true that that should work but the problem with me is i dont want to waste exp. your idea is great and all. And i would use it but im greedy lol. well the people in my party are CLoud(As if i have a choice lol), Cid, and Barret. Cid has 2x cut because he's the only one currently with his ultimate weapon. I missed barrets and i'm currently too lazy to use clouds because of that 'no growth' factor. Mainly because all of the materia he has needs like.... '200,000' more ap to go. and also my strength isnt high enough and i tried getting sources to make my life easier and even so my attack still isnt great at all.
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if you want some easy power sources, put vincent in the team, give him morph and morph as many dino tanks (can't remember their name) and you;ll get a free one every time. (they are in Gongaga) in 30 half approx, i got about 70 power sources, and that would help anyone with their strength i believe. :P
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but if you use final attack + pheonix like all these guys have been saying you will revive all 3 characters and you NEED only one character alive
use final attack + revive (life2)
then it'll only revive the character you are using
then idk....i just throw coins at him ;/
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Both of the weapons are very easy if you go into battle with the following (beware it's very simple and you just sit there using "mime")
1. KOTR paired w/ HP Absorb (helps to have it mastered)
2. Mime
3. W Summon
4. Speed Plus (mastered will help alot since you get a better speed bonus)
5. Any weapon keep in mind that you get a ton of AP for killing them so it'll be great to use a Double or Triple AP weapon
6. Magic plus (really helpfull so that you connect with 9999 strikes with KOTR)
7. Ribbon (this is a must)
8. Final Attack+Phoenix (not needed but it helps)
9. At least 9000 HPs on Cloud
Emerald is as easy as taking candy from a baby if you have 2 guys equipped with "Final Attack+Phoenix" and just whack away Ruby on the other hand, no choice but to start the battle with only Cloud and the rest of the party dead this way Ruby doesn't use his stupid cheap whirlwind attack to take guys away. Start the battle and cast KOTR and sit back and when it's your turn again just chose "Mime". I did it with the active battle set to "wait" don't know if it makes a difference or not.
What happens is right after KOTR, Ruby hits you with Ultima and takes a good 5000hp away but you'll cast KOTR immediately and recover all of your HPs thru HP Absorb paired with KOTR. Next hit "Mime" and that's all you'll need to do to kill him. If you have Magic Plus and your KOTR hits for 9999 each time, it'll take you about 6-8 casts total to kill him. Really easy with this method it feels like cheating so you might not like it. All you do is cast KOTR with W Summon and then Mime, no need to use any potions or ethers just Mime over and over.
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its true that that should work but the problem with me is i dont want to waste exp. your idea is great and all. And i would use it but im greedy lol
well thats where the 99 elexiors come in and the 99 megaelexiors are there for backup.
Cid has 2x cut because he's the only one currently with his ultimate weapon.
if you want to level that up to 4x cut well this is what i did (its a true but sad storie) i just went to the northern creator to the area with the magic pots (dont remember how to get there) and just ran around and fought them (sure you have to give each one an elexor but the thing is before you do you can do the w/item glitch if your running low) and i know its a long prosses but with about two cans of energy drinks and determination you can do what i did when i acttily desided to go fight the weapons and this is how i got everyone to level 99 (this was before i found about jenova and this site)
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Or even better fight those floating fireball things in the same area as the magic pots. They give you 2000AP :-P
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I never seem to run into those i guess i'm in the wrong area and thanks for help.
and to ChocoboFriedSteak. I dont have a golden chocobo which means. No mime, and no kotr! I do have quadra magic though.....And to malach!(I'm too lazy to quote) I would just use yuffie(In my opinion i really dont like her) even though vincents my favorite character. The reason being i havent made him kill a lot of enemies so his attack is pretty bad ^^;;;..and i may sound stupid when i say this but i actually tried getting that up. I put him in the forest area where you can get either two enemies, five enemies or six. in one battle. I gave him slash all, it's hard to get it up though x.x....
Ok what I'm going to try and do is....use lucky 7's because right now thats the only thing i can do especially being that i dont have kotr. i just wish i had mime, this way if everyone was in lucky sevens and mime'd say a limit then they'd to 7777 per hit and they do a lot of hits. *Sighs* I have 9999 health. And the problem is, i want my characters alive. and everywhere i read it says "Ruby weapon wont use whirlsand(Or something) if its claws are in the ground!" can someone tell me this is a false fact please? lol. And I'm going to try and get power source's as suggested by malach! this is gonna take me a loooooong time lol.
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it was proven that the Ruby weapon is the hardest boss in videogame history, so it's meant to be hard and isn't meant to beaten, not by every tom dick and harry. :P
however, if you have the PC version, i would happily send you a copy of my save data where it has a black and wonderful chocobo waiting to be breeded. ^^
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Or even better fight those floating fireball things in the same area as the magic pots. They give you 2000AP :-P
arg i couldnt think of what to call them thanks squeeble.
however, if you have the PC version...
um malach! i do beleve brokenheart said something about him having the ps1 version nice try though
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Um thanks for reminding malach that i mentioned that. But um... i'm not a male. I'm female and proud thank you. lol thats an honest mistake because video games are played by mostly men, just because video games are my favorite pass time doesnt mean that im a man lol. and its true that i have a ps1 and play it on the ps1 lol. I dont have the computer version only because i dont have a need for it. And can someone help me pin point the area where i need to go to run into the magic pots and such because now im confuzzled.
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i believe you mean that by my 'tom dick and harry' comment made you believe i thought you were male, but it's just a phrase to mean anybody.
and the place for the magic pot and movers (you get 2100 AP from them in total :P) from the point where you split up and down a direction, you go down the left path and in the lower enterance i think, then you'll see a yellow area with swamps, continue to the next area and just wander about, then you'll come across them.
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No no no I was refering to 1337_grim. "um malach! i do beleve brokenheart said something about him having the ps1 version nice try though"
And thank you That helped.
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Wish more girls played games lol.
When you get into the northern crater and the team splits into two groups, I think you go to the left of the screen which takes you to this crater thing. Then theres two seperate ways to go if I remember top right and lower right, you wanna take the upper right I think and it takes you to an area that looks like this.
(http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s280/squeeblish/magicpotareathing.jpg)
This is where you fight magic pots and red fireball thingys, and some other weird creatures. This is the area I spammed the crap out of to max out all my materia like slash all and ultima KOTOR etc. it can be tedious but I reckon it's worth it.
P.S sorry for the crap photo it was all I could find at the time, I'll se if I can find the other are if you still can't find it.
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I never seem to run into those i guess i'm in the wrong area and thanks for help.
and to ChocoboFriedSteak. I dont have a golden chocobo which means. No mime, and no kotr! I do have quadra magic though.....And to malach!(I'm too lazy to quote) I would just use yuffie(In my opinion i really dont like her) even though vincents my favorite character. The reason being i havent made him kill a lot of enemies so his attack is pretty bad ^^;;;..and i may sound stupid when i say this but i actually tried getting that up. I put him in the forest area where you can get either two enemies, five enemies or six. in one battle. I gave him slash all, it's hard to get it up though x.x....
Ok what I'm going to try and do is....use lucky 7's because right now thats the only thing i can do especially being that i dont have kotr. i just wish i had mime, this way if everyone was in lucky sevens and mime'd say a limit then they'd to 7777 per hit and they do a lot of hits. *Sighs* I have 9999 health. And the problem is, i want my characters alive. and everywhere i read it says "Ruby weapon wont use whirlsand(Or something) if its claws are in the ground!" can someone tell me this is a false fact please? lol. And I'm going to try and get power source's as suggested by malach! this is gonna take me a loooooong time lol.
Just get the gold chicken, not hard at all and alot of fun to breed, it takes alot of money to buy those Sylky Greens though. Even with lucky 7s it'd be really hard because it'd take alot of those 7777 hits, KOTR hits for 9999 and it takes alot of hits so just imagine. Safe yourself the time and headache and breed a gold chicken, in the time you spend trying to figure out how to kill it and device ways of doing it, you might have bred 2 gold chickens.
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Or you could try barrette angermax thing which I saw killed emerald in 1min 19 secs. LOL.
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ugh i've tried soooo hard to get a gold chokie. and believe me at this point its not worth it. I may as well skip out of the weapons again then go through the chocobo's over and over and over again lol and thanks i thought it was in that area but i wasnt sure cause i have horrible luck i suppose. anywho. and video games are like life to me because i've played then since i was 2. yay! :mrgreen: anyway i'm still gonna try i guess. just need to level up more materia. and in terms of chocobo i've completely given up!
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i gave up on the chocobo breeding in 7 a long time ago. but getting the gold chocobo in 9 was loads easer. speaking of gold chocobos is there a way to update the chocobo that you can get in ff8? or are you stuck with the yellow one? 'cus if you are why didn't square make it/them into golden chocobo or make it like one?
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ugh i've tried soooo hard to get a gold chokie. and believe me at this point its not worth it. I may as well skip out of the weapons again then go through the chocobo's over and over and over again lol and thanks i thought it was in that area but i wasnt sure cause i have horrible luck i suppose. anywho. and video games are like life to me because i've played then since i was 2. yay! :mrgreen: anyway i'm still gonna try i guess. just need to level up more materia. and in terms of chocobo i've completely given up!
Man i can't believe some of you don't like the bird breeding? i thought it was easy but time consuming do you guys know where to look for them or you just hate having to race them up to class S?
Now, you want to hear tough, demanding and stupid? this i gave up on after 3 days, getting the ultimate weapon for the main character in FF10, what a damn pain. you have to deal with birds too a race with them and get some impossible times to get the weapon. :x
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you know what the funny thing is. I actually did that. And racing the birds isnt the hard part. When ever i try to breed them it just doesnt work.... I have them both on s class both are good/great chokies and i just dont know what goes wrong -.-.... comepared the the stress and annoyance that put me through final fantasy X ultimate weapons was a cake walk lol.
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wait wait wait slow down. are you saying that the chocobos in 10 are like the ones in 7? or am i missreading your guy/girl(s) posts?
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what are you talking about? lol no. CFS is trying to convince me to breed a gold chocobo saying how most people dont want to race them. And how that chocobos are annoying in FFX when trying to get tidus's ultimate weapon. I simply said i would rather race the chocobo's in 10 then breed them in 7 ^^;
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cast Hades, it'll cause "stop" as one of his effects. then own ass with KOTR. don't cast anything at him when he isn't stopped, or he'll counter with Ultima. just make sure you've got plenty of KOTR and MIME available. you should only need to cast hades three times.
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lol this is not mean or nothing. But i have mentioned serveral times that i dont have mime or kotr. and i am fully aware of the stop hades affect but thanks for trying to help ^^...
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Maybe try the leet thing by leveling your characters to max and having heaps of megalixers and stuff, and fighting him I spoze you could say normal style :-P.
You feel pretty leet afterwards I'd assume, I tried this a few time managed to knock off heaps of his health before dying cheaply lol.
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Maybe try the leet thing by leveling your characters to max and having heaps of megalixers and stuff, and fighting him I spoze you could say normal style :-P.
You feel pretty leet afterwards I'd assume, I tried this a few time managed to knock off heaps of his health before dying cheaply lol.
i've only done that with ruby and emerald maybe twice? once to see if it was possible, and then once to prove it to a friend.
i felt pretty leet, and then i felt like a complete dork haha.
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hey, i found a new (simialer to my old one and the leet one squeeble sugested) but before you do mine you need serten materia and two need to be attatched (the linked materia that looks like this 0=0) the materia are w/summon, quad magic (wich i do beleve you have) and a powerfull summon.(those two has to be the linked materia) now i choose (you pickachu) bahamut zero becuse he can do 9999 damage so times that by 4-6 and you get 59994. so 6 summons of bahumet zero (1 = 180mp) so you think you would use up 1080mp right? well your wrong the best (and funny) part is the game thinks you summend him/her/it once and only once. if you don't beleve me well http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7UnoIXNOIU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7UnoIXNOIU) this video that i made not to long ago will show you what i mean
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lol i know what linked slots are, i've played through the game quite a few times. I've just never bothered beating the weapons. and um i have no idea what you're talking about. Are you saying i should use W-summon with quadra magic linked to bahamut zero? Becuase thaT ONLy does 4500 rounded each time because the damage is split. I've done it before and believe me it didnt work that way.
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well bahamut zero for me did around 8000 damage (on all three (not combined)) and did you watch the vid? well what you want is quad magic linked with bahamut zero and w/summon seperate.
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lol ik i've done it before. It takes too long though....
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well i just thought of another idea. ill post it (mabey with video to)
EDIT: it worked but it took forever and a day(for me). what i had was 8 counter attacks, 4x cut, revive + final attack (both mastered)(didnt need the combo), (mastered) restore, full cure, 99 x potions, 99 elixiors, 99 megaliexiors, and luck lots of luck (not in game just in real life).
the down side?
(not sure if this is going to effect you but this might effect others)
the length that its going to get all of those things and how long the battle will be. and here is a pic for proof
(http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/3274/desertroseeu4.png) (http://imageshack.us)
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Or try this :-D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zp6qctdJstw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zp6qctdJstw).
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nice find squeeb. (mind if i call you that?) but can you find one in english 'cus i cant read that or understand him and i dont think brokenheart can too.
edit: just finished watching the vid. but how did berret do angmax(sp) 6 times after the origanle?
never mind found out how via youtube that dude if f***ing smart
2nd edit: i just realised a two flaws in your idea squeeb.
1 : she doesnt have mime
2 : it would be very hard to keep both people alive during the ruby weapon fight
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Yeah you can call me Squeeb I get called it all the time when in TS.
About the mime thing maybe investing a bit of time into getting I think you need the mountain chocobo, and as for keeping people alive you could just use hades to sop him temporarily and the pray lol.
Also I just found the japanese one more amusing :P
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the thing is i'm having less trouble with emerald then ruby. *Sighs* ruby just happens to be more annoying.
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why not try my new stratigy? it works. its kinda like the angermax limit trick but with cloud and no mime (you could try with 4x cut but that means a lot of materia leveling
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rofl no problem there. Materia leveling is easy for me expecially being that i dont have a life.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyZeAWQiEus
pretty much teh same tactic as emerald?
can anyone elaborate on how THIS http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ovxL1wdjtI <<<< is possible?!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyZeAWQiEus
pretty much teh same tactic as emerald?
can anyone elaborate on how THIS http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ovxL1wdjtI <<<< is possible?!
It's not cheating, it's using a bug that's intrinsic to FFVII: Vincent's Death Penalty weapon deals damage according to the number of enemies he's killed. When that number comes close to 65,535, the internal damage calculation overflows into negative numbers and the game sorta freaks out. It means insta-kill on any enemy, except Ruby who has super-high defense
that's from youtube (same video)
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lol vincents death penalty and i have that vid on my favorites. the problem with vincents death penalty is i've completely given up on killing enemies lol.
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@ Broken Heart
Well i am not really the wise man as far this game, but you said you were having easier time fighting Emerald. so why don't you concentrate on defeating it/him/her/whatever and then obtain the Master Materia set by exchanging whatever he drops with the kalm traveller. So that way you have the Master Summon which i presume will include KOTR and Master Command, which again will grant access to Mime, and then you can follow the countless strategies already suggested. I can't say much, I am still trying to defeat Weopon on my relatively 65-70 levelled characters (with strength's 93,76,75 for my characters!!!! I know this is suicidal! but i managed to deplete around 6,00,000-7,00,000 of its HP therefore i am a little confident) . Though somehow I too feel that EMERALD is a lot easier, cuz i dont have Mime and therefore am dependent a lot on limit breaks and EMERALD's low defense (RELATIVELY OK?) makes my job easier as i am more of a hack-n-slash player. I just hope that the their is no flaw in above strategy cuz that's how i hope to defeat the Ruby Weopon whose high defense irritate me a lot!!!)
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actually that doesnt sound like a bad idea, i was thinking about doing that at first but.... idk i seem mroe focused on ruby because it just mocks me...lol but i'll try that and possibly give you some feed back, thanks for the help.
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it was proven that the Ruby weapon is the hardest boss in videogame history...
Source?
I'll contest that.
Ruby WEAPON only took me a couple days to devise and carry out a strategy to defeat him with. That was without using the W-Item trick and reproducing Megalixirs.
The hardest boss that I've ever fought in my entire video game lifetime would have to be unlimited Universe Indalecio of Star Ocean: The Second Story. It took me damn near three years before I finally defeated him, no tricks involved. Indalecio has several million hit points and he knows all of the best spells, including a few of his own which are basically death sentences. Since Star Ocean 2 has a full-active battle system, you could actually avoid a lot of damage by running around, but Indalecio is just as fast as you are and his attacks have awesome range, and he can cast spells while moving (nothing else in the game can), so... I eventually just buckled down and leveled my entire party up a few dozen levels.
That was probably one of the few occasions in which I impressed myself while playing video games.
Even harder is Tales of Phantasia (PSX version) on its hard mode...I can't even make any progress. At least with Star Ocean 2 you could customize yourself a pretty fancy weapon early on, but man, Tales of Phantasia absolutely kicks my ass on hard mode. Couple that with the fact that I don't read Japanese and you've got yourself a very difficult RPG.
And I know I'm barely scratching the surface here. There are far harder RPGs than Final Fantasy VII (I think we all knew that, though...) and thus far harder bosses than Ruby WEAPON.
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lol it depends who you are and how you play the game bosses are harder depending on strategy. I think out of a lot of bosses Ruby is one of the hardest.
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lol it depends who you are and how you play the game bosses are harder depending on strategy. I think out of a lot of bosses Ruby is one of the hardest.
Yeah ruby is at least one of the hardest FF bosses. No dubt the hardest FFVII boss. I still haven't beaten the hardest ones after FFVIII though... The one I spent the longest time on beating however was the ones in FFV.
Btw u got a Gold choc yet?
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I'm not going to get a gold chocobo. I'm gonna beat ruby.
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@zero88
well, i recall seeing on 'when videogames attack' that they were looking at the top 10 hardest bosses in videogame history, and he was ranked at number 1, but i don't listen to middle aged men who only play games all day, and that little unlimited Universe Indalecio was no problem as strageties are actually needed and can be performed in a enviroment such as that, however, ff7 on the other hand, is basically turn base, not much you can do to evade damage and block blows, so i second Malach!'s opinion about the ruby weapon as the hardest boss in video game history. (or penance from ffX as it's such a long fight and he has quite a bit of power)
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Actually even though its turn based, it depends what type of materia you have equiped! Thats the strategy, and Ruby is easily one of the hardest bosses in game history.
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and emriald can be easy or hard depending on how many materia you have equiped (not sure if it's in total or what)
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Thats true, but normally once you have that figured out, you equip certain amounts of materia to each person.
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I'm not going to get a gold chocobo. I'm gonna beat ruby.
I know that wasn't the subject, bur really, getting a Gold Chock isn't hard at all. Just requires some patience. You probably read this but heres a "perfect" guide (http://www.ffonline.com/ff7/chocobos.htm).
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well, heres the thing, no luck wi9th chocobos, aint gonna happen, i dont use guides unless i really need to and i dont need to. I have patience but after 9 or 10 years of trying i've completely given up i couldnt do that since i was 5 or 6 and its not gonna happen now :P. So i'm gonna beat emerald and then i'm gonna beat Ruby.
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Alright! It's not up to me. But I eagerly await the day you'll hit your forehead with your palm, sighing hard while realising how easy it really was lol. Good luck with the Weapons!!
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I doubt I'll do that, Emerald is easy though, it just depends on who i have in my party. Ruby is the problem and i just cant win still >.<
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Ruby is quite, quite simple, if you do a bit of preparation. There's a monster near the Forgotten Capital that you can steal 'Dazers' from - they inflict Paralyze status, which Ruby can be affected by. Grab a bunch of them, then paralyze the heck out of him. It's fine to revive your other two chars after the beginning of the battle.
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I used dazers I have 99 of them...and If i revive them they get sucked into the whirl pool even if Ruby has its claw things in the ground. lol
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That's never happened to me (I beat Ruby as soon as I could, with no 'legendary materia')
All I had to do was Dazers, Phoenix, Dazers, (two people cast big damage spells), Dazers, etc...
Emerald was much tougher. I actually needed 'Underwater' :)
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People that don't use the underwater materia are eather A. to stupid to use it. B. know that they are most likely going to die C. think that they can easily defete (spelling) it D. trying to use hardly any materia for the air tame stump(not sure if thats the correct spelling) trick. or E. they accidently ram into it. (i know i have in the past).
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I have beaten it without using Underwater, but it needed craploads of preparation. My 'fairly low level' strategy was to cast Demi on him over and over again (he resists Gravity, but is not immune like most bosses) - tiring, but it works.
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In my mod both Ruby and Emerald gets full recovery from Fire attacks. Thus Phoenix is useless. Life2+all works fine though.