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Title: Play As Zack!! (The Absolute Zack Project)
Post by: rugbykid on 2007-08-09 15:24:49
This is A Patch I Created For The PC-verision of FF7!
Send me some screenshots!

Look at this website for updates and news!  :-o

http://the-absolute-zack-project.tk/ (http://the-absolute-zack-project.tk/)

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Realease 2.75 is now avalible at my homepage! And if you are intresded in Zack with NPC just send me a pm or write in the forum!

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The work for a while go slow since our great sthepen/murak modder got a virus...

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The 2.73 is almost the same as 2.75 but 2.73 messes up so use 2.75!
Title: Re: Play As Zack!! (The Absolute Zack Project)
Post by: Scorpicus on 2007-08-09 18:16:20
It works!  :-D

However, you've still got a lot of work to do swapping Zack in for battle (although you only need to do the head); text, obscure field models like Cloud in the wheel chair; icons, the world map and the mini games.

Also you shouldn't upload the whole char archieve (highly illegal!) instead, create an auto patcher using LGP tools.  That will also keep the file size down  :wink:

Perhaps you should upload the patch to this site:  http://www.hotlinkfiles.com/  This site allows you to direct link to the download file so people trying to download it won't have to wade through advertising!

I've been looking forward to a Zack mod for ages - it's been talked about but never finished (as far as I know).  If you need any help, don't hesitate to shoot me off a PM  8-)
Title: Re: Play As Zack!! (The Absolute Zack Project)
Post by: EmperorSteele on 2007-08-09 21:24:34
It may be beyond the scope of the project, but perhaps you should rescript the text so that "Zack" doesn't have Cloud's identity crisis.  Otherwise the game won't make sense.

Title: Re: Play As Zack!! (The Absolute Zack Project)
Post by: rugbykid on 2007-08-09 22:54:44
Well As I Said THis Is Just A Beta (Very, very Beta!)
It's To bad I Can't fix it on this computer  :-( :cry:
I'll have to wait like 4-6 week before i can work on it more!
But if you could send me some screenshots it would be great!

Thanks For Trying It Out!

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I have now fixed so instead of clouds face in the menu it's Zacks!  :-D
It also change the face on the menu when he's young!  :lol:
I also added some alternative pictures for new game/load screen! (don't shore it' works! A nice person maybe want's to check? :-P)

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Please if anyone could send me screenshots! Just use the print screen button!  :oops:

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New ver is coming soon! Iv'e got help from a guy named stephen here on forum.qhimm.com and he's really great!!! So check out the website!

Then when i have less to to on this patch i maybe will start working on another one tht i will call "The Boring Switch Patch" (My idea is to let peapole vote whose the most boring playing character and then switch into another person that you othervise can't play with! I'll start a new shred for that to let peapole vote!)   :-D :-D :-D

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It's ready 2.00 (Alpha)!!! I'll have fix a few thing first then i'll add it to my website!!!  :-D

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Now it's here Realease The Absolute Zack Project 2.0 (Alpha)! This Includes almost everything (not worlmap cloud though) clouds animations to zack and also battle animations!!!

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Peace with the Lord (why did i write that?) Soon the new realeas will be here! It will include zack on world map, new wepons, text fix, deltafult name zack, and i think also a better battle zack! Also the spell names will be fire, blizzard,thunder and all that!

Check out the website! http://the-absolute-zack-project.tk/

I now have uploaded some pictures on my websit!

Mod Edit (SB): Do not quadruple post, and do not remove the mod edit notification.
Title: Re: Play As Zack!! (The Absolute Zack Project)
Post by: Scorpicus on 2007-08-10 16:01:20
Firstly, don't double quadruple post - the mods don't like it.  If you want to add something to your last post, use the edit button.   :wink:  Editing a post also bumps the thread, so there really is no point in cluttering the thread with double posting.

O.K I've tested the new version and it's critiquing time!  :evil:

I like the 2nd Zack icon (it's the concept art, right?)  The only problem with it is that it looks majorly pixelated/colour drained compared to the other icons. 

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h63/Scorpicus/icons.jpg

The main menu pics cover the "new game/continue box" and only part of it shows.  Maybe you could keep the menu picture the same (it is Zack's buster sword after all  :-D) and just add the text "The Absolute Zack mod" underneath.  The main menu pic (the part that shows) also becomes a bit pixelated in game.

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h63/Scorpicus/mainmenu.jpg

Very weirdly, the Zack field model swap stopped working after my first test  :?  And when I try and load any game it comes up with the error message:  "Fail to load.AVFD.yos"  and then crashes.  It's most bizzare cos in the char archieve there arn't any files of type ".yos" in there in the first place.

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h63/Scorpicus/charerror.jpg

How are you swapping the field models over?  Are you renaming Zack's head P file to replace Cloud's and vice versa or are you renaming hrc files or some other method?  Tis a most bizzare error indeed.

Also, with your website you should check out: www.awardspace.com  Most excellent free hosting service- no forced ads for starters!  Or, another thought on the website stance, you could set up a Live Journal account for the mod.  That way it'd be easy to archieve news and different versions, allow people to comment and advertise it to the many FFVII comunities on LJ etc.

The only problem with the LJ suggestion is that, unless you sign up for a paid account, your stuck using templates (Although there are hundreds to choose from - no exaggeration!)

Last point - the ReadMe is a bit hard to... well, read!  Using capital letters on every word isn't very eye friendly  :wink: Also, perhaps it would be better to split out the sections a bit more clearly with some -------- or =======.  Also it probably is a good idea to order the sections:  Title and contact info; introduction, install instructions; previous version info; other things to note; thankyous and then contact info again. 

Woah... long post...
Title: Re: Play As Zack!! (The Absolute Zack Project)
Post by: rugbykid on 2007-08-10 18:59:55
Well actually the ".yos" thing is my problem it's always the same (like reunion and NPC) so i'll have to find out what that means!

Mod Edit (SB): Sorry, nothing personal, but please don't quote a vast post just to add a sentence.
Title: Re: Play As Zack!! (The Absolute Zack Project)
Post by: Murak Modder on 2007-08-17 14:12:48
hi, as some people are aware, i am working on this, and i wished to state that it's pretty much done, all that's left is to compile it into a patcher or the basic files, but the flevel is annoying. >.<
and we're are using a take on Malach!'s hi hi res cloud but changing it to look like zack, but that is optional, but we are also considering a NPC RP model alternative as well, but that is only if people show interest in it.
some weapon changes are the ultima weapon being the buster sword and the masamune as the Ragnarok. the spell names are also following the style the other final fantasies set. (fire, fira, firaga, cure, cura, curaga, etc)
the field models are zack, and for models that could not simply be made by taking the parts of the file are changed by matching the colours to darken the clothes.
the mini games are zack, well, for the chocobo one anyway, but i could not find where cloud is on the motorcycle mini game to change him to zack, but that's bearable, right? (if anyone knows what cloud's file names are in the motorcycle mini game, please tell us!  :-D)
and that is the end of my update.  8-)
Title: Re: Play As Zack!! (The Absolute Zack Project)
Post by: rugbykid on 2007-08-17 18:52:27
Okay so now here goes! Please weite in the forum if you think i would be fun with zack in a NPC to!
Please i would really appreaceate if you all would do that!  :roll:
Title: Re: Play As Zack!! (The Absolute Zack Project)
Post by: Great Sephiroth on 2007-08-19 22:18:42
hi Rugbykid

This patch is good,(i only use the battle lgp for now) good work.  This is strange to see clouds eyes and eyebrows in battle

Sorry but on your site, you said the version 2,73 is release but there is no Link at all 

is it truly release or you do some modification on it

The Great sephiroth

Title: Re: Play As Zack!! (The Absolute Zack Project)
Post by: rugbykid on 2007-08-20 01:46:39
So I Uploaded It Now! Yay!

hi Rugbykid

This patch is good,(i only use the battle lgp for now) good work.  This is strange to see clouds eyes and eyebrows in battle

Sorry but on your site, you said the version 2,73 is release but there is no Link at all 

is it truly release or you do some modification on it

The Great sephiroth


Title: Re: Play As Zack!! (The Absolute Zack Project)
Post by: Great Sephiroth on 2007-08-20 03:34:52
thanks buddy :)   

i will try it right away,( only the battle.lgp because i play with the NPC RP6 )



The Great Sephroth


EDIT:   EUH... dont work i cant make the autopatcher working (Access Violation at address 000000000 read of address 00000000
Maybe i dont understand the instructions  can you give moire detail about installing the battle lgp autopatcher
Title: Re: Play As Zack!! (The Absolute Zack Project)
Post by: Zaxd on 2007-08-20 04:15:51
thanks buddy :)   



EDIT:   EUH... dont work i cant make the autopatcher working (Access Violation at address 000000000 read of address 00000000
Maybe i dont understand the instructions  can you give moire detail about installing the battle lgp autopatcher

Same to me. Patcher doesnt work, too bad.
Title: Re: Play As Zack!! (The Absolute Zack Project)
Post by: Great Sephiroth on 2007-08-20 04:18:16
Maybe if he take his battle.lgp already patch  probably it will work

What are you thinking about it ???


The Great Sephiroth


edit:  another thing is there a way to make it compatible with NPC RP 0.6      it will be great
Title: Re: Play As Zack!! (The Absolute Zack Project)
Post by: rugbykid on 2007-08-20 12:30:18
well... i read somewhere that the autopatch isn't the the very best to use so thats why i included to original patch files to!

And at this time it's not compitable with NPC but if enough peapole shows intrest one will be done!
Title: Re: Play As Zack!! (The Absolute Zack Project)
Post by: Great Sephiroth on 2007-08-20 16:02:35
did you mean by battle-patch.ffpatch,  (not sure) if yes all i have to do is rename it battle .lgp ???



edit I found how but it make me a error when apply patch.... Stream read error and it stop at a filein battle.lgp(rtat)

edit2: No the autopatcher work but he stop at the file rtat with the error  Stream Read Error    can you please send me the already patched Battle.lgp plz

Thanks in advance

The Great Sephiroth
Title: Re: Play As Zack!! (The Absolute Zack Project)
Post by: stormmedia on 2007-08-21 04:42:46
Might be a little late for that but if I recall correctly the ".yos" problem in the NPC and Reunion patch was some kind of lgp tools compatibility issus with some version(or configuration) of windows XP...

Try this:

Highwind 1.20 (http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=6389.0)
Title: Re: Play As Zack!! (The Absolute Zack Project)
Post by: Great Sephiroth on 2007-08-21 15:52:46
Sorry Again   

I try many sorts of things to resolve my problem but nothing  seems to do  , can you tell me how to install it or just sent me the battle.lgp already patched

Thanks
Title: Re: Play As Zack!! (The Absolute Zack Project)
Post by: Great Sephiroth on 2007-08-22 11:50:05
I think i found the file that are cloud eye and eyebrows in battle .lgp    rtac     i try to make the eyebrows black but  when i try it ingame, ther is white geometric form instead   

can somebody help me


ps  i used the version 2,0 alpha to test it but i think we are close to found  the way of making the Zack eyebrows to Black
Title: Re: Play As Zack!! (The Absolute Zack Project)
Post by: Murak Modder on 2007-08-22 13:06:55
actually, the only reason they are like that is because i do not mess with text files on the whole so i didn't change the textures from siaa to rtaa so that the default textures didn't fit the model resulting in those giant orange/yellow eye brows and half eyes that look like dots. :P
however, i am gonna change that as people seem to not like them for some reason. ^^
Title: Re: Play As Zack!! (The Absolute Zack Project)
Post by: Great Sephiroth on 2007-08-22 17:10:32
thanks  but another thing,  why the autopatcher seems (when patching) to stop patching at the same file "rtat" with the error  Stream Read Error and it do the same thing with lgptools patcher


its verry annoiying(bad spelling)
Title: Re: Play As Zack!! (The Absolute Zack Project)
Post by: rugbykid on 2007-08-22 19:44:29
I have tryed three ways now of trying to make some better way than take all the fully lgp files... autopatcher dosn't seem to work... the ips- tools that is included wiuth teknomans dosn't woprk either and ffpatch either??? so maybe someone know how they did for reunion and NPC???
Title: Re: Play As Zack!! (The Absolute Zack Project)
Post by: Murak Modder on 2007-08-22 20:21:19
i believe ice_cold used patch maker to make the patcher for the sephy mod and the NPC RP mod as it says in the installer "patch maker". with a web page reference for you to download it.
Title: Re: Play As Zack!! (The Absolute Zack Project)
Post by: Great Sephiroth on 2007-08-22 20:26:40
i hope you can find something to fix that  i am truly waiting for this to work   and if you can take in to NPC RP it would be one of the best path ever

tell me if you think i can do something to help you
Title: Re: Play As Zack!! (The Absolute Zack Project)
Post by: Scorpicus on 2007-08-23 08:45:51
Patch Maker is an excellent (legally free) program for making patches.  You can download it here:  http://www.clickteam.com/eng/patchmaker.php

The only issue is that if you create a patch for the flevel.lgp, the file size is massive.
Title: Re: Play As Zack!! (The Absolute Zack Project)
Post by: rugbykid on 2007-08-23 16:38:57
the patchmaker seems like and exellent programn! use it right away!

After A Lot Of Troble With The Program I Got It Working And 2.75 is now available on the homepage!
Title: Re: Play As Zack!! (The Absolute Zack Project)
Post by: rugbykid on 2007-09-03 15:15:13
Well how unlucky could you be... now i broke my arm and guess how slow it will go now...
Title: Re: Play As Zack!! (The Absolute Zack Project)
Post by: Scorpicus on 2007-09-09 19:26:05
Well, I've done some testing with version 2.73 and I came across a few bugs.

- Normal field Zack is missing a foot.
-Menu pic buggered.
-Strange crash at Seventh heaven when you go into the basement.
-Eye texture missing on world map.
-Female, parachute, soldier, wheel chair and young Zack have Cloud's eye texture.

Keep up the good work!
Title: Re: Play As Zack!! (The Absolute Zack Project)
Post by: rugbykid on 2007-09-12 17:35:01
Well, here's my anser list

- Normal field Zack is missing a foot. = I don't think that is everywhere... my zack misses leg at some places but not everywhere =)
- sorry for my english but was does "buggered" mean
- sorry i havn't noticed that crash... i'll see if that happens to me to...
- i know... i'll see what i cando about it...
- never notriced that...

and otherwise check if 2.75 works better...

 
Well, I've done some testing with version 2.73 and I came across a few bugs.

- Normal field Zack is missing a foot.
-Menu pic buggered.
-Strange crash at Seventh heaven when you go into the basement.
-Eye texture missing on world map.
-Female, parachute, soldier, wheel chair and young Zack have Cloud's eye texture.

Keep up the good work!
Title: Re: Play As Zack!! (The Absolute Zack Project)
Post by: Scorpicus on 2007-09-12 21:53:41
Buggered?  Heh, heh, it's a British swear word.  I was using it to mean "mucked up" - The pic had green and red lines all over it. 

Literally, however, it means guy on guy buttsmecks  :-D
Title: Re: Play As Zack!! (The Absolute Zack Project)
Post by: rugbykid on 2007-09-13 09:29:58
thats just on 2.73 that is the patch prgram doing it use 2.75
Title: Re: Play As Zack!! (The Absolute Zack Project)
Post by: rugbykid on 2007-09-18 16:47:24
A "eye in battle fixing" realease  is coming soon! I'm right now changing the colour from blonde to black!
I'll upload it tommorow!
Title: Re: Play As Zack!! (The Absolute Zack Project)
Post by: Murak Modder on 2007-09-20 12:02:03
the fixed eye for zack.
http://qhimm.zoomshare.com/files/fixed_eye.zip (http://qhimm.zoomshare.com/files/fixed_eye.zip)
Title: Re: Play As Zack!! (The Absolute Zack Project)
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Title: Re: Play As Zack!! (The Absolute Zack Project)
Post by: xxmarinoxx on 2009-01-25 18:53:46
yea i love playing as Zack  :lol: . He is my favorite ff7 character :-D. but iv run into a problem. in certain parts of the game it will crash now, like at certain parts of the clouds past chapter or the bottom of the northern cave right before the battle with sephiroth. do you know what the problem might be.