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Title: Sense (FF7)
Post by: LJH on 2008-03-22 23:25:48

What exactly determines whether or not a monster can be sensed?

I read somewhere it was to do with how much HP they have, but then I found that a bit of customization even with under 30k HP made them unsensable, and I'm sure I've seen monsters in the original game with over 30k that are sensable. (Maybe I'm just remembering wrong...)

Title: Re: Sense (FF7)
Post by: gjoerulv on 2008-03-23 03:21:17

yeah I thought only less than 30k would be sensable, but I may be wrong. I don't see where this data could be stored though.

Title: Re: Sense (FF7)
Post by: LJH on 2008-03-23 05:32:44

Maybe it's to do with if at least one stat is over a certain value?

I noticed that Midgar Zolom with HP at 28k is unsensable with Vit and Mag at 255. Likewise, the same Zolom with everything (but HP) at 1 except level at 99 is also unsensable. However, returning that Zolom to it's original level it can once again be sensed.

So I'd say that HP, at the very least, isn't the ONLY factor.

Hm, Carry Armor has 38k HP doesn't it, but IIRC it can be sensed...

Title: Re: Sense (FF7)
Post by: Akari on 2008-03-23 09:22:44

There are condition in code - if max hp >= 30000 then remove this unit from target mask. We go through all units and see if they can be scanned. If target mask is empty in the end - display "Couldn't Sense".
There may be additional things that removes unit from target mask, but final condition is max hp.